
Week in Review: DOJ Sues Illinois; Debate Over Cultural Center Art
2/7/2025 | 26m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
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The U.S. Department of Justice strikes at Illinois’ immigration laws. And a debate over a controversial piece of art at the Chicago Cultural Center leads to an alderperson’s ejection.
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Week in Review: DOJ Sues Illinois; Debate Over Cultural Center Art
2/7/2025 | 26m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
The U.S. Department of Justice strikes at Illinois’ immigration laws. And a debate over a controversial piece of art at the Chicago Cultural Center leads to an alderperson’s ejection.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> Good evening and thanks for joining us on the week in review and amend of in a Chicago has long been in President Donald Trump's crosshairs.
But the Department of Justice taking it to another level withdrawing funding and suing the state city of Chicago and Cook County for allegedly interfering with immigration enforcement.
Governor JB Pritzker signed a month.
We are tough.
We are strong and Donald Trump has no idea what he's up against when he attacks Illinois.
It's the latest legal fight.
>> The states now in court with the Trump administration over immigration, transgender rights and a funding freeze.
Trump's also dangling the prospect of tariffs with Illinois's major trading partners.
>> We don't need them for the cars.
We don't need them for lumber.
We don't need them for anything.
We don't need them for energy.
We have more energy than they Stressing out Illinois contractors, manufacturers, breweries and restaurants, things from aluminum, too.
>> to plastic to you name There's all kinds of things that go into making impact here.
>> We need to have produce and quantities that are necessarily available domestically.
And we've got produce to be affordable.
>> Mayor Brandon Johnson agrees to walk into the fire, says next month he'll defend Chicago's welcoming city ordinance before congressional Committee.
Johnson also says he wants a revote on the bring Chicago home real estate tax to respond to the UN now is crises that we have.
>> In America in order for us to do that, we need revenue.
just that simple.
A debate over a controversial piece of art that the cultural center leads to an alderman's injections.
A pre-election power struggle in south suburban Dolton and they aren't in the Super Bowl.
But with the Bears matriarchs passing and a hunt for a new stadium, the Bears are very much in play.
>> And now to our week in review panel joining us, Rufus Williams from W Vo SUV from choppy Chicago Melody Mercado from Block Club, Chicago and Justin Lawrence of Crain's Chicago Business.
Now let's get to it.
Melanie, I'm gonna begin with you.
The Department of Justice suing Illinois in Chicago seeking to invalidate the laws that restrict police from cooperating with ice.
What is the legal argument here?
The legal argument is that the sanctuary city status for both Illinois Cook County in Chicago.
>> Is interfering with the federal government's ability to carry out what they say is a be able to carry out their duties specifically with ICE.
As we've heard Governor Pritzker basically said game and he believes that it the state will be able to uphold its sanctuary city status and that it's not going anywhere.
This has been tried before right?
>> Yes, and it is first time and under former Mayor Rahm Emanuel.
The city fought that back.
I don't know that that necessarily means that automatic gets thrown out again.
you know, judicial system is is decided by people.
depends on the judge that it's before and how far the Trump administration wants to take it.
But I don't know that that's the the legal argument part.
This is just one part of it, right?
But the Trump administration is has thrown out lots of things.
And the first couple weeks of his term and the chaos and everybody scrambling to figure out what it means for them as I believe, part of the reason they're doing the same Sperry century lot also been revised sense that.
>> successful streaming strengthened and changed.
And so Youve got completely different sort of legal arguments now and then on the law.
is common sense part of this, right?
So Governor Abbott, sons, all these immigrant here.
>> And then comes the push to get all the immigrants out.
And then the conversation around the law, which seems to be much of the set up for something bad to come in and do something about what you buy that was done.
>> So this is all a scheme by Trump or we'll see a lot more of this.
I mean, you talk about how bad everything is and you're the only one who can fix it when you've created the issues in the first place.
So we look at all the things that talked about during the campaign about how bad the country is, how bad these things are.
And it was an overstatement in so many ways about so many things and only I can fix it.
it kind of looks like it's picks except it's not.
And, you know, we still can't miss the fact that whether it's bird flu or whatever else, I dollars when I went to the store the other >> 8 books where you shop and >> okay, so is this distracting folks from the inflation situation?
There's been a lot of flooding of the zone.
And so a lot of the things that are really impacting people personally are not things that have been dealt with as we see impact that's been going in the other direction.
And so a lot of these pieces that you start to see that they're really pushing on are the things that people really care about, whether you voted for him or not.
>> And so, Becky, what should Illinois businesses and residents be mindful of knowing there's flood the zone strategy in?
We do have tariffs that were floated and then they're on pause for 30 days.
Are you changing your calculus?
I mean, I think some of this as Rufus mentions is by design to sort blitz.
I mean, they're only I mean, President Trump has not even been in office a month.
>> so he's signed how many executive orders this lawsuit is another part of the strategy to sort of throw everything kind of down like the gauntlet down.
And so I guess I think.
You know, it's hard to tell what is going to have like a long-term sort of the most trickle down impact.
But certainly this lawsuit is one that I think people, you know, need to pay attention to because it could shift just sort of the policies on the ground in huge funding ramifications.
Also on the line Justin, before this lawsuit came down, Mayor Johnson after thinking about it for a stretch.
>> Committed to testifying before the House Oversight Committee about Chicago's welcoming City ordinance.
Should this change that or have you heard if it >> As far as I know, it is not.
You know, I that's the first question.
I asked the mayor's office.
There are one of the 2 yesterday.
They have not said that they will not attend.
I have to imagine that there at least considering whether or not to attend now, but remember, part of the reason I think that he he is his law department was reviewing their inner invitation.
They finally committed playing.
think part of that was because they were worried that rather just accept an invitation, then be subpoena go through that hall dramatic shows.
So I don't know that this is change, but I think maybe when you Shana having committed, but you didn't right.
And stakes are different.
And some a lot of times we hear.
>> Government officials say I can't answer that because there's a legal situation that said given how many lawsuits, Illinois in Chicago are going to be.
Part of it seems from these executive orders we couldn't ask about very much we held off on everything.
so speaking of rough what do you make of how the governor and the mayor are handling this.
They both seem to say.
We've got the grit.
We're not going to back down.
You know, it's been interesting how many people have gone otherwise and kiss the rain.
>> And that seems to be the kind of feel to the kind of loyalty that's being look for from Washington.
But the reality is there some things that people just simply shouldn't do.
There's got to be a different way to come at it.
So here we are saying to or city with sanctuary state, we have been we're not the only one.
Chicago was identified early for whatever the reasons it could be because we have a billion or governor.
It could be because the issues with whatever the Marias and issues with Rahm Emanuel would been mayor before he could be a lot of reasons why Chicago's by unidentified.
But it has been.
And I think for the things that you stand firmly about, you stand firmly about.
I think that the I think that they're in the right place.
That questions in terms of why Chicago, why Illinois, that I don't believe we have a straight answer to.
>> I do want to play a clip from Governor Pritzker.
>> Who is taking this track?
And he made a special announcement on social media.
>> The world's finest geographers experts who study the Earth's natural environment have concluded a decades Long Council and determined that great Lake deserves to be named after a great state.
So today I'm issuing a proclamation declaring that here in after Lake Michigan shall be known Lake Illinois.
>> All right, melody, that's clearly.
>> He's coming at a Trump for renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.
Is funny and taken a stick?
>> I think it's very congee.
I think that the constituents in Illinois would rather see the governor and the mayor continue to stand up for people's rights here and instead of kind of engaging on silliness on social media.
That has been my personal take on it.
Initially I thought it was a serious announcement.
What I saw on my feet before coming to the studio and then I was like, OK, turning it at all.
A serious announcement, but it did have that flag.
It certainly caught.
My attention is welcoming.
>> For site is this is sort of thing that could back fire again.
If you're talking about sort of a lot of folks getting closer trying to be business players.
The tech industry kissing the ring.
By Chicago in Illinois going the opposite.
Is this going hurt the city and to the extent that they engage in these again?
These distractions, if you will, and the flooding the zone on stuff.
That's like going to tie people up from actually getting to.
>> Policies and difficult legislation or governance that actually impact people's lives like that would be detrimental.
And to me, it's like there.
There's this engagement between the politics and the political parties right now that if you spend too much time engaging in that you're not leaving time and energy to to focus on what actually matters.
And it I think will give.
The broader public you know, yet another excuse to sort of tune out or disconnect or not engage light or make light of or right off the country's government as dysfunctional and not doing anything for their real lives.
let's remember this, believe, is political side that put this video out read that they've had the >> both time.
And Mayor Johnson had their official responses to Trump actions.
But I think both of their teams, political teams have.
>> Have made a calculation that it's it's good for them politically, too, to be so out front of of maybe other leaders across the country and and being the firing of Trump and, you know, certainly people are criticizing them and saying, hey, that's putting the target our backs.
I don't know that that's necessarily true.
We've Chicago in Illinois has been target of Trump for for a decade now.
I don't know if anything changed with their comments, but their political aspirations here.
They're playing and other responding something that we hear constantly from Illinois Republicans, that this is just Governor Pritzker, making early run for president.
You know, right, of course.
I think it's also can be a ruse to get a reaction out of Trump.
We know that he's on social media.
We know he.
>> Rees every tweet he looks at every mention.
So if anything, it?
>> Well, get under his skin.
We could see a reaction to that.
But I also think that the Democrats need to decide which battles that they want to fight when it comes to engaging in social media in this way.
We saw Vice President Kamala Harris when she was running for for president and she had a TikTok account.
And I would say a lot of that was kind of parody response, kind of similar to what we saw with Governor Pritzker and obviously, Harris, to not win the presidential race.
And I think it's been kind of a wake-up call for Democrats to kind of think, OK, do we need rethink our approach on this hole?
How we engage and when do we do it?
>> Somebody for whom this might be working on social media.
So is former Governor Rufus.
We have Rod Blagojevich who is famously actually milo Rod Serbian descent, perhaps becoming the ambassador disrepair.
>> It's kind of interesting who gets around that around this current president.
And I hadn't heard what Governor board that had been doing for some time.
So now your cars lights running in ravenswood, balances a lot of its of attention to what's happening in Ravenswood.
So, you know, he'll be ambassador Serbia, whatever that means, perhaps not can anybody is this.
>> Fair for a former convict, especially in light of January 6 pardons shirt.
>> I guess if you can say we have a convicted Allen, an office currently, is it in line too?
what people voted for?
I think that's a question.
>> Let's move on to the mayor because during a special town hall actually here at W T Tw earlier this week, Mayor Johnson said he wanted a redo at the bring Chicago home vote that would it charge a higher tax on real estate transactions, at least those that are of a million dollars or more.
So Becky?
Why would this be different?
Second time around?
I mean, perhaps he's thinking that the political climate will shift as we see a lot of.
>> You know, again that now with the new administration in office, sometimes people in American public, by the time they're asked to go back to the ballot box.
They just they pick whatever is the opposite of what 10 in office.
He did see that measure defeated pretty definitively last spring in the primary.
And so I think the question is, would would this have any sort of different with voters have any sort of different take now and is the message that we need to have this tax order to address homelessness and the housing crisis is that does he have more time to make that case?
I'm not sure we want and serious about, looks on your airwaves.
He said.
>> We want a different turn out when we see this again.
And that was a day before a press conference and we all asked him when are you going to seek this?
And when very quickly became and if we seek this again, I you know, I haven't decided I will speak with our partners.
I don't think he's going to stop talking about that rain, especially in light of the budget season.
This is a way to say, hey, if you if you don't like property taxes, we need other sources of revenue by blocking my attempts to to raise remember, yes, to get City Council approval for a resolution to put this on the ballot.
I think that would be very difficult given has its current relationship with the council.
But I don't think he's going to drop talking about as the way forward.
other source and a source revenue issue is big for the city of Chicago.
We've got a number of issues and no way to pay for those issues.
So >> as this became one of the ways in which to bring in revenue, they continue.
He will continue to look for things even if they're with things.
They've been cast aside people still see the magnitude of the problems and the fact that we need revenues to solve them.
>> There's a very organized, though.
The folks who defeated the bring Chicago home are are gonna ordinance.
I'm sorry.
The referendum.
There's a pretty organized group of folks in the business community that lead that opposition.
And they also defeated Governor Pritzker's progressive income tax like they a lot of the same groups were behind that.
And so I think unless you can figure out how to overcome that opposition.
A 3rd time on some like they're not exact same measures, obviously, but both prep progressive proposals trying to overcome that.
Well, well organized opposition.
Yeah.
So you'll just have to just rely on again.
A different set of voters are different.
Turn out worse or shifting in public opinion, different turn out be good people.
We really got the feel of what people really want because was still the time.
And also we don't know.
you mentioned was the voters.
was a primary so they know they can put stronger.
More people out.
More people engaged.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And 2026.
We're going to see, you know, the governor on the ballot again.
We'll see.
>> Plug school board elections are going to happen again.
we're going to be electing the holes the back.
He's speaking want to stick with you in terms of actually, because we have also.
>> Funding issues for Chicago public schools.
Now, there is that half appointed board still trying to settle contracting a 3rd party arbitrator came out with a report.
Give us main take away.
Yeah.
So this is a part of state law.
They brought in a third-party arbitrator to take a look at the proposals on both sides where the sticking points were.
And this arbitrator kind of went one by one and laid out what they saw as a path to compromise.
Interesting sided with the union on a few things saying, you know, yes, I think you should hire more librarians every year for of this contract.
>> But sided with the board importantly on a number the annual raises sided with the board on the amount of staffing for counselors and case managers who people who work with students with disabilities.
So that report laid out ideas and then path to a settlement.
But because the union rejected it the to basically go back to the bargaining table and continue bargaining.
But that.
report also kind of importantly, in the past has started this statutory clock toward a strike.
Now, both sides, including the union, has said we don't think we were not there.
We don't think that we're going to have go on strike, certainly kind of hopefully there's a bit of breakthrough after this report has come through.
But seems like you want to weigh in this one of the few times that you heard about them being in negotiations and we haven't heard up until now.
>> The notion of a strike, but it does trigger everything so they can they get into that position that it's possible.
And the things you point, I mean, they they've gotten through the economic part, at least from the arbitrator that they seem to agree on what the board can or cannot with the system can or cannot afford.
But the whole notion about the possibility of them on strike for the things there.
How do those things ever get resolved?
You're seeing so much intractable after these long negotiations.
>> there was also a lot of for melody in the city Council chambers.
So take us there.
This was a committee hearing on a piece of art that is in the city's cultural center.
So taxpayer funded and critics say that this is Anti-Semitic.
What's the uproar?
>> Well, the the the particular on hearing was about again, if Dish really belies in the city tax funded space again, a lot of proponents for the art piece say that it falls under First Amendment free speech and at the end of the day, individuals and associated with case and the panel that chose our peace mention it had scored one of the highest and it, you know, multiple people.
It wasn't just like one person that made the decision to put it up there.
It went through multiple different layers of of like checking I guess you would say to to officially put it in the cultural center.
But things really got heated when Alderman Bill Conway was really pressing the the the DEA case, commissioner with how the process was to put the art piece in the cultural center and then Alderman Cisco, Lopez kind of weighed in and they got into a heated argument to wear aldermen.
Citgo Lopez said the word white-supremacist it people all took that to mean that he was top.
He was calling Alderman Conway a white-supremacist.
So it was very heated aldermen.
Cisco Lopez ended up having to get escorted out of the chamber and Conway such cool.
Lopez ended making the back of chambers and and said that apologies were said that Colobus as it was not directed at him, sort of said in the heat of the moment that he was frustrated that it was about 4 hour-long hearing on something that along here.
Yeah.
Something that believes as First Amendment rights.
fissures in the city council always popping up, but coming back together.
>> Not so much in Dortmund.
We the pulls actually opening next week for early voting and we have only a couple minutes left, but what is the drama over in Dolton?
Because there's a lot to his drama.
This little village a whole lot of attention, doesn't it?
>> That is the polls open on Monday.
The elections on the 25th just 2 weeks.
But there's long been pretty much since the opinions been elected.
People be concerned about what's going on in Dalton.
Mayor Lightfoot did a report out to the community about the spending there.
>> And they got it up big deficit.
No shortage big deficits over.
Yeah, in a short time and will leave for people to really understand what is going on in Dalton.
>> With respect to the finances and, you know, the mayor didn't show up to that to that hearing.
That was a big fight.
And the day after the mayor was in literal fight, a brutal rule fist his fist with wrong.
Someone suggested I think it was the mayor's attorney suggested that someone had a knife.
The left and went got into the brawl.
Her boyfriend has now been relieved of his responsibilities.
And Dalton, it is a city in chaos and hopefully when they get through the next election, it will be less chaotic and ultimately maybe less media attention.
They do believe there is federal investigation going occasion on this one.
>> Before we run out the clock before the Super Bowl.
We've got to turn some attention to football, especially as we have the matriarch of the bears and really of the NFL Virginia McCaskey of passing away this week.
Just what does that mean for the team?
You know, it.
>> I don't know that it means a time immediately that we as we've reported, you know, every year the teams have to give the NFL sort of their own succession plan right here.
Here's how will divvy up the shares.
But like any family business when when this actually does happen, then maybe.
Kind of Internet fund dispute over ownership, bubbles up to the surface.
I don't know that it means anything for the stadium pursuit per se.
You know, she backing Kevin Warren who's really leading that.
So I think as long as he's in place city, a drama doesn't really, really go away in our last 30 seconds because the mayor about this as well.
He's sticking by the lakefront stadium.
Yes, was kind of surprising.
He is to be as more specific.
He is sticking by a plan.
>> That is all but dead on arrival in Springfield.
So it's strange to to really highlight a plan that there's no upside.
He's like do because he I think he wants to defend himself for being so in support of it.
Originally like he's downplaying the idea these are subsidies because hotel, you Gus, paving and visitors, tourists pay.
That's not regular Chicago taxpayers.
It's still taxpayer money.
It's a sense of I don't.
Quite understand why he's still backing this.
And that is our clock.
So our thanks to Roof is Williams Melody Mercado and Justin Lawrence.
We will be back to wrap things up right after this.
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