>> THANKS FOR JOINING US ON THE WEEK INTERVIEW.

I'M PARIS SCHUTZ MAYOR BRANDON JOHNSON RELIVES THE UPS AND DOWNS AS HE MARKS ONE YEAR SINCE HIS ELECTION.

THE MAYOR BULLISH ON HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS INTO MULCH TO HIS FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE.

ACCORDING TO AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH BLOCK CLUB, CHICAGO.

>> IF YOU CAN SEE THE NEED FOR REFORM HERE, YOU'RE JUST NOT LOOKING.

REPUBLICANS WHACK GOVERNOR PRITZKER AFTER STATE PRISONER REVIEW BOARD CLEARS THE RELEASE OF CONVICT CHRIS CITY.

BRAND WHO ALLEGEDLY KILLS AND 11 YEAR-OLD BOY ONE DAY LATER.

>> CHALLENGE US TODAY.

AND ALL THE MODERNA FOR.

JUST UP THE POLITICAL POSTURING.

>> 25TH AND BYRON LOPEZ SPARED PUNISHMENT AFTER HIS PROTEST SPEECH IN FRONT OF A BURNT AMERICAN FLAG.

SOME ALDERMEN WANT TO SAY OVER WHETHER CONTROVERSIAL SHOTSPOTTER GUNSHOT DETECTION SYSTEM SHOULD CONTINUE IN THEIR WARDS.

MAJOR LAYOFFS AT WBEZ IN CHICAGO SUN-TIMES, PARENT COMPANY, CHICAGO, PUBLIC MEDIA AND IN SPORTS.

THE CUBS OFF TO THE RACES TO START THE SEASON.

WHILE THE WHITE SOX LIMP WHEN EARLY LAST PLAY STANDING.

>> NOT PRETTY ON THE SOUTH SIDE.

AND NOW TO OUR WEEK IN REVIEW PANEL.

JOINING US ARE HEATHER SHARON OF OUR OWN WTW USED AND THE WHOLE APPLE IS FROM WBEZ.

JEREMY GARNER FROM THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE AND BRANDON POPE FROM WC IU.

LET'S GET RIGHT INTO IT.

BRANDON POPA JOHNSON, THE MAYOR IS ASKED BY THE INTERVIEW YOU KNOW, HIS HIS THOUGHTS ON HIS FIRST YEAR SINCE THE ELECTION SAYS, QUOTE, NAME ONE THING.

I HAVEN'T DONE ONE PROMISE.

I HAVEN'T KEPT.

THERE ARE A FEW.

PERHAPS CITY HASN'T KEPT SO FAR.

YEAH.

THERE ARE AT LEAST 5 OR 6 THINGS THAT HE HASN'T DONE YET IS SERVICE IS STILL SOME TIME LEFT THERE.

BUT HE IS VERY BULLISH.

VERY END IT WITH EVERYTHING DEFIANT EVEN WHEN IT COMES TO US A PROGRESSIVE AGENDA AND GOING FULL SPEED AHEAD ON WHICH IS PRETTY PAR FOR THE COURSE FOR WHAT HE'S BEEN CAMPAIGNING GOING TO BE, YOU SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT GOING FORWARD AND SEE SOME OF THESE MOVES HE'S MAKING CAN ACTUALLY BE SUCCESSFUL FOR U.S.

DOES SAY HEATHER SHONEY'S FULFILLED ALL HIS CAMPAIGN PROMISES.

SO WE DID FULFILL A PROMISE TO GET THE BRING CHICAGO HOME TAX HIKE ON THE BALLOT.

BUT VOTERS DID NOT APPROVE IT.

DOES THAT COUNT IS FULFILLING?

I THINK DOES BECAUSE HE SAID HE WOULD CREATE A DEDICATED FUND TO ADDRESS THE UNHOUSED IN CHICAGO.

THAT IS VERY MUCH A WORK IN PROGRESS.

>> I ALSO THINK, THOUGH, THAT WE'RE SEEING A LITTLE BIT AND FORGIVE ME THE SPORTS METAPHOR THAT THE BEST OFFENSE IS A GOOD DEFENSE OR THE BEST DEFENSE IS A GOOD OFFENSE BECAUSE YOU MIGHT THINK AFTER SUFFERING THIS DEFEAT, HE MIGHT START TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A DEFENSIVE CROUCH OR TRY TO MODERATE OR SORT OF SAY, WELL, I'M GOING TO TAKE A NEW APPROACH.

WE'VE SEEN NONE OF THAT.

YOU KNOW, HE LITERALLY SAID READY TO PUNCH BACK.

AND I THINK THAT HE FOUND DURING THE CAMPAIGN BECAUSE HE'S HE'S VERY FOND OF REMINDING US ALL HE CAME FROM VERY FAR BEHIND WHEN NOBODY, EVEN SHOT.

AND THAT HE SORT OF FEELS LIKE HE WAS ABLE TO COMMUNICATE HIS WAY TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

AND HEATH, I I SEE HIM SORT OF TRYING TO SORT GO BACK TO THAT SORT HE'S HIS OWN BEST SPOKESPERSON, USE THE BULLY PULPIT TO KEEP PUSHING THOSE 4 DE MILLE UP WITH WHAT IS AND YEAR AS HE APPROACHES YOUR YOU KNOW IT THE GREAT THAT THE VOTERS ARE GIVEN.

I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYWHERE NEAR AS HIGH IF HE'S REALLY BELIEVES WHAT HE'S SAYING.

AND I DON'T DOUBT HE SOUNDS LIKE HE'S REALLY BULLISH ON HIMSELF AT.

I DON'T THINK.

>> THE GENERAL PUBLIC HAPPY.

MANY PEOPLE MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, TUNE IN TO ELECTORAL POLITICS AND HIS REELECTION HOPES ARE, YOU KNOW, A LOT.

IT'S A LONG WAY DOWN THE ROAD AND A LOT OF WAYS.

BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IT HE'S GOT THIS JOKE THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S GOT A LOT MORE TIME LIKE 23, MORE YEARS IMPLYING THAT HE'S GOING TO 6 TERMS AND BREAK THE RECORD OF RICHARD M DAILY AND SURPASS RICHARD J DAILY AS WELL.

>> BY A LOT AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S REALLY OPTIMISTIC AT THIS POINT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE, BUT HE KEEPS RIPPED OUT, WAS TOLD THAT HE WOULD STOP MAKING THAT THAT HE WANTS A SURFER.

23 MORE YEARS.

MAYBE HE WANTS TO AND HE SHOULD BE PROUD THAT HE GOT ELECTED ONCE AND HE IS A MAYOR, CHICAGO, BUT I THINK HE NEEDS TO SLOW HIS ROLL.

IN TERMS OF THAT OVER CONFIDENCE.

I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT OVER CONFIDENCE OR EXPRESSING IT IN THAT WAY WILL SERVE HIM IN CONTINUING TO PURSUE HIS EXPRESSING THINGS JEREMY GARNER.

>> IN THIS INTERVIEW IN MANY INTERVIEWS, HE DOESN'T TEND TO GO OFF.

HIS PLANET IS VERY MUCH OR ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH OTHER MAYORS OR DO YOU THINK DO YOU SEE AS A REPORTER, PERHAPS A HIGHER LEVEL DEFLECTING SOME OF QUESTIONS.

I THINK IT IS PRETTY CONSISTENT OTHER PARENTS.

YOU KNOW WHAT?

I'VE REALLY NOTICED, TOO, MAYOR JOHNSON.

>> IS THAT, YOU PRETTY DOESN'T REALLY TAKE QUESTIONS AT PRESS CONFERENCES.

I MEAN, EVERY YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME THEY SEND THE MEDIA ADVISORY, IT'S GOING TO BE BE ROLE ONLY.

I MEAN, WE STUFF WHERE HE'S NOT GOING TO TAKE QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY ON KEY ISSUES WHERE HE WAS DODGING QUESTIONS ABOUT SHOTSPOTTER, THE MIGRANT CRISIS AND OTHER THINGS.

AND IT'S UNLIKE MAYOR LIGHTFOOT WHEN SHE WAS KIND OF IN YOUR HONEYMOON PERIOD PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC.

SHE WAS ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO THE MEDIA, YOU KNOW, AND SHE WOULD, YOU KNOW, ANSWERING QUESTIONS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, CRISIS AND CHANGE PRETTY QUICKLY.

SHOULD SAY MAYOR DALEY WAS TYPICALLY OUT MOST DAYS OF THE WEEK.

RAHM EMANUEL.

>> USUALLY ONCE A WEEK A ROLE FOR HIM, SO JOHNSON ACTUALLY TOOK QUESTIONS TWICE THIS WEEK FROM THE NEWS MEDIA, WHICH WAS A VERY BIG CHANGE.

AND THEY'VE STARTED DOING SORT OF PULL ASIDE FOR A WHOLE HAVE AN EVENT AND THEN HE'LL STEP TO THE SIDE.

ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM REPORTERS.

>> AND IF WE'RE SEEING A SHIFT IN STRATEGY THAT I THINK IS AN INDICATION OF IT.

HOWEVER, SPEAKING OF COMMUNICATING HIS OWN BEST COMMUNICATING HIS MESSAGE NEEDS TO REPORTERS AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, IN HIS ROLE AS COOK COUNTY COMMISSIONER.

THERE WERE NOT REPORTERS BEATING DOWN HIS DOOR TO ASK HIM ABOUT THE ISSUE OF THE DAY OR WHATEVER THE CONTROVERSY WAS AT THE MOMENT.

SO THIS I THINK IT'S BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF A LEARNING CURVE FOR HIM.

AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE CERTAINLY COMMUNICATED TO HIM AND TO HIS STAFF THAT THE MORE YOU ANSWER QUESTIONS, THE LESS FRUSTRATED WE ARE AND IF WE GET MORE CHANCES TO QUESTIONS, THE LESS CHANCE THAT KNOW.

ANSWERING TO WHAT HE WANTS TO ANSWER.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO ADD TO WHAT OTHERS SAID WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S TALKING ABOUT STILL GETTING HIS MESSAGE OUT THERE IN THE BLACK LAB STORY REGARDLESS.

BUT, >> YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO REALIZE THAT WE IN THE MEDIA, WE'RE THE CONDUIT FOR THAT MESSAGE.

I MEAN, 90% OF WHAT HE SAYS IS GOING TO COME THROUGH YOUR TV CAMERAS.

IT'S GOING TO COME THROUGH OUR, YOU KNOW, OUR WRITING RADIO REPORTING, ETCETERA.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU KNOW, TO HAVE POINT.

I THINK THAT FINALLY STARTING TO COME AROUND A LITTLE BIT THERE, AT LEAST FROM WHAT WE'VE SEEN THE LAST FEW TIMES AND SO MANY POLITICIANS, INCLUDING MAYORS DON'T LIKE THAT.

THE FACT THEIR SURPRISE SOMEHOW THAT THE MESSAGE THEY WANT OUT THERE ISN'T ALWAYS A MEASURE THAT'S OUT THERE.

MAYOR LIGHTFOOT.

>> YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED ABOUT THAT HONEYMOON PERIOD THAT THAT WENT AWAY PRETTY QUICKLY IN HER OPINION OF OF LOCAL MEDIA SOUR PRETTY QUICKLY.

BRANDON, WANT TO JUMP IN HERE.

WHAT?

YEAH, I THINK ONE THING THAT HE'S GOT TO DO AND I THINK HE IS DOING SEE SOME CHANGES IN THE COMMUNICATIONS STAFF.

>> IS GET AWAY FROM THE TALKING POINTS BECAUSE HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE HEARD?

I RAISE KIDS ON THE WEST SIDE OF CHICAGO.

I'M A SCHOOL TEACHER.

HE'S FINALLY STARTING TO NOT ANSWER EVERY SINGLE QUESTION WITH THESE CAMPAIGN TALKING POINT AND FLOWERY THINGS ARE FINALLY GIVING US A LITTLE MORE 70'S, EVEN THOUGH HE IS STILL NOT GETTING TO THE HEART OF THE ANSWER.

WE NEED THE FREQUENCY AND THE SUBSTANCE.

FIRST, THE FREQUENCY.

>> YOU KNOW WHETHER YOU'RE SAYING WHAT?

TWICE IN ONE WEEK BAILEY WAS MORE LIKE 3 OR 4 TIMES A WEEK.

HIS FAVORITE ANSWER WAS, GEE, I DON'T KNOW.

AND I DON'T THINK I SOUND LIKE HIM AT IN SOUTH SIDE, BUT VERY BUT THE REALITY IS THAT IN TERMS OF THE SUBSTANCE, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BRANDON, BRENDAN IS A SITUATION WHERE HE SOUNDS A LOT LIKE A SCHOOL TEACHER AND NOT LIKE A POLITICIAN WHICH DID GET HIM ELECTED.

BUT IT'S A TOUGH JOB.

YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE SOME CLEAR STANDS.

YOU KNOW, WHEN DALEY WAS CONFRONT THAT HE'D SAY PEOPLE WANT SOMEONE TO LEAD IS BRANDON JOHNSON LEADING LEADING CLEARLY AND COMMUNICATING HOW HE INTENDS TO THERE'S SOMEONE NEW THAT'S GOING TO LEAD HIS STAFF, THE NEW CHIEF OF STAFF, CHRISTINE, A PASS IN HIS EYES.

SHE WAS A DEPUTY MAYOR.

SHE'S GOING TO THE PLACE TO REPLACE THE DEPARTED RICH GUIDICE.

SO WHAT IS THIS APPOINTMENT MEAN ABOUT THE DIRECTION OF HIS ADMINISTRATION?

WELL, I THINK IT'S BEST READ AS AN ENDORSEMENT OF HER HANDLING OUT OF THE MIGRANT CRISIS BECAUSE SHE HAS BEEN OUT FRONT.

SHE'S BEEN THE ONE ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS FROM THE NEWS MEDIA AND SHE'S BEEN THE ONE SORT OF DEVISING A STRATEGY.

SO I THINK WE CAN READ THAT.

IS JOHNSON SAYING SHE IS DONE BEST A JOB ANYBODY COULD AND ARE REALLY TRYING CIRCUMSTANCES.

I THINK IT'S ALSO AN INDICATION THAT WE SHOULD NOT EXPECT THE MAYOR TO BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE MOST PROGRESSIVE MAYOR IN CHICAGO HISTORY BECAUSE >> CHRISTINA PASSING ON THE SCIENCE WAS SORT OF ONE OF THE LEADERS OF THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE THAT REALLY SORT POLITICAL POWER IN THAT PART OF THE CITY AND SORT OF BUILT A BASE THAT HELPED ELEVATE JOHNSON INTO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

>> SO I THINK THAT IS SORT OF SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO SORT OF FOCUS ON THOSE PEOPLE WHO SERVE SHARE OUR VALUES AND WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON SORT OF COMMUNICATING THEM.

JAI.

THIS WAS ALWAYS SORT OF A LITTLE BIT OF AN ODD FIT FOR THE JOHNSON ADMINISTRATION STARTED DAILY.

HE SERVED UNDER MANUAL.

HE SERVED UNDER LIFE LIKE HE WAS SOMEBODY WHO WAS KNOWN WAS GOING TO KEEP THE TRAINS ON TIME.

BUT HE WAS IN NO SENSE A TRUE BELIEVER OF THE PROGRESS.

I THINK THE WORD ON THE STREET WAS THAT HE WAS GOING TO STAY AROUND THROUGH THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION.

AND THAT OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T HAPPEN.

>> YEAH.

AND ONE THING ABOUT BEING A GUY WHO HAD BEEN THERE AND OTHER ADMINISTRATIONS IS THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE IN THE RANK AND FILE AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY WORKFORCE THAT KNEW THAT, YOU THIS GUY WASN'T IN IDEOLOGUES THAT THIS GUY WAS A TECHNOCRAT.

AND NOW YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN THERE.

SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY SHE BOTCHED THE MIGRANT.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DEBATE ALL DAY SHE'S ALSO VERY BIG ON THAT BIG A PIECE OF HIS PROGRESSIVE AGENDA, WHICH SOME PEOPLE WOULD CALL THE MANSIONS TAX, THE BRING CHICAGO HOME.

AND THAT WENT.

ULTIMATELY DOWN THE TUBES ON ELECTION DAY.

AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WORRYING EVERY CHANCE.

I THINK SHE'S THE FIRST TO LET YOU KNOW, THAT'S IN THAT JOB AS A CHIEF OF STAFF TO ANY MAYOR.

YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS YOUR LOOK BECAUSE IT'S A TOUGH JOB.

YOU KNOW, IT IS TO DO WE DO THE PROGRESSIVE AGENDA.

MENTIONED THERE BECAUSE >> IT.

GETTING RICH AND THERE SEEM LIKE A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A TIP OF THE CAP TO THE MODERATE SIDE, THE MODERATION.

BUT SHE'S HAD 11 MONTHS TO LEARN UNDERNEATH THEM.

SO WE'RE GOING TO SEE FIRSTHAND WHAT SHE ABSORBED THERE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY SHE CAN MAYBE BRING SOME MODERATION, EVEN WORK.

>> WITH, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPERS LANDLORDS THINGS LIKE BRING CHICAGO HOME IN THE HOMELESS CRISIS GOING TO TAKE YOU TALK ABOUT THE MIGRANT CRISIS ON, YOU KRISTIE PASSES.

ICE WAS OBVIOUSLY IN THE ONLY SENATE BILL FOR ALL THIS.

>> AND SHE'S VERY WELL RESPECTED IN THE SENATE.

VERY PROGRESSIVE.

I'M KIND OF LIKE HE WAS KIND OF PART OF A GROUP OF NEW PROGRESSIVES THAT JOIN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY LAST 4 YEARS.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY BEEN, YOU KNOW, DEBATE EVEN AMONG DEMOCRATS, ABOUT 182 MILLION DOLLARS.

THE GOVERNOR PRITZKER'S PROPOSING FOR YOU.

NO NEW MONEY FOR MIGRANTS GOING INTO THE NEXT BUDGET AND YOU HAVE SOME DEMOCRATS WHO ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW, RELUCTANT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT, ESPECIALLY DEMOCRATS WHO REPRESENT TRADITIONALLY POOR NEIGHBORHOODS.

YOU KNOW, THAT HAVE BEEN UNDER UNDER SERVED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

BUT MAYBE WHAT IT COULD DO IS, YOU KNOW, SHE COULD KIND OF, YOU KNOW, COMPLIMENT THAT A LITTLE BIT AND MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE GENERAL, SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT.

YOU KNOW, SPEAK IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

I GOT TO ASK YOU ABOUT.

>> REPUBLICANS THIS WEEK THEY'RE CALLING FOR CHANGES TO THE PRISONER REVIEW BOARD.

AS WE MENTIONED, THIS IS AFTER 2 MEMBERS RESIGNED AFTER CHRIS.

ANY RELEASE WAS APPROVED THE NEXT DAY ALLEGEDLY KILLS A ATTEMPTS TO KILL EX-GIRLFRIEND ALLEGEDLY KILLS 11 YEAR-OLD SON.

SO WHERE THESE CHANGES THAT REPUBLICANS PROPOSING, SOME OF THE CHANGES THEY'RE TALKING YOU KNOW, IT TO, YOU KNOW, INCREASE OR PENALTY ENHANCEMENT, REALLY FOR ORDERS OF PROTECTION, MAKING IT A CLASS 4 FELONY FROM.

>> AND THIS NEAR AMONG OTHER THINGS.

AND THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY TALL ORDER IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, TRADITIONAL, I MEAN, ESPECIALLY THE LAST 5 YEARS AS IT'S BECOME MORE PROGRESSIVE VEHEMENTLY AGAINST PENALTY ENHANCEMENT.

THAT'S GOING TO BE A TOUGH SELL.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, REQUIRING X AMOUNT OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO BE A FORMER POLICE OFFICER, FORMER PROSECUTOR, FORMER DEFENSE ATTORNEY.

I THINK THAT WAS LIKE UP TO 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE RIGHT UP HERE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE MEMBERS ON THE PIER BE THERE'S LIKE A FORMER POLICE CHIEF AND THE BOARD SHELTON SELF, WHO WAS THE?

>> WHO RESIGNED, AS YOU KNOW, FOR HIS HEAD OF THE PIER ON YOUR SHOW EARLIER THIS WEEK, HE WAS A CHAMPAIGN POLICE OFFICER FOR MANY, MANY YEARS BEFORE SERVING MANY, MANY YEARS ON THE PIER B, I WILL SAY THAT MAKE CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DECISION THAT WAS THE DECISION THAT THEY PRETTY MUCH RIGHT HAD TO MAKE.

YEAH.

THIS IS THE THING, THOUGH, THE POLITICAL AND THINGS WITH THE SENATE REPUBLICANS.

SO TAKE YOU BACK TO 2022.

WERE THEY REALLY BEAT THE DRUM PRITZKER BECAUSE OF A LOT OF HIS SEVERAL OF HIS APPOINTMENTS.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROGRESSIVES WHO WERE PUT ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, THEY WERE RELEASING A LOT OF OLDER WHO WERE CONVICTED OF HEINOUS CRIMES MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.

SOME OF THEM SICKLY AND I'M RELEASING THEM THROUGH THE BOARD.

SENATE REPUBLICANS BEAT THE DRUM ABOUT THIS SAYING THAT THIS WAS NOT A GOOD THING AND IT'S RARE FOR GOVERNOR'S APPOINTMENT TO BE REJECTED IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY REJECTED TO P R B THEY REJECTED 2 PRB APPOINTMENTS PUT FORTH BY PRITZKER LARGELY BECAUSE THE SENATE REPUBLICANS BEAT THE DRUM SO THIS.

THEY ONLY HAVE 19 MEMBERS THERE IN THE SUPER MINORITY.

THEY THERE ARE MANY ISSUES THAT THEY CAN REALLY GET SOME TRACTION.

SO MAYBE THE THINKING THAT THIS POINT IS ONE.

BUT AS PRITZKER SHOWING HIS CARDS ON HE WANTS TO DO TERMS OF REPLACING THE MEMBERS IN THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD.

>> YEAH.

I THIS IS A VERY BIG ISSUE FOR PRITZKER.

I THINK I'M GOING PULL RANK.

HERE IS THE OLDEST ONE ON THE PEDAL TO THE OF OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN THE ONLY GREEK AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE IN THE HISTORY OF MAJOR PARTY NOMINEE IN 1988, IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY GOT THE TAR BEAT OUT OF HIM.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHO WAS MIKE AND MIKE IN GOT.

>> YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ROUND RAILS CREATED THAT AD CAMPAIGN.

RIGHT?

RECIDIVISM IS HUGE THING.

>> AS WE PRISON SYSTEM IS ALSO FAILING TO TO AFFECT PRISONERS.

SO I THINK PRITZKER HAS TO DEAL WITH THIS VERY, VERY CAREFULLY.

THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT CAN BE TRANSLATED INTO A VERY CLEAR NARRATIVE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT IMAGES OF 11 YEAR-OLD KID WHO WAS.

KILLED DEFENDING HIS MOM WHEN EX-BOYFRIEND COMES OUT AND COMES LOOKING FOR HER AS SOON AS HE'S OUT.

RIGHT.

HOW MANY TIMES A TRAGIC, HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE STORY THAT VERY EASILY BE UNDERSTOOD BY EVEN PEOPLE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO GOVERNMENT.

AND I WANT TO ADD JUST ONE THING BUT SAID, >> MAYBE 5, 6 MONTHS AGO AS A RESULT OF THOSE CHANGES FROM THE PRB WITH MEMBERS LEAVING OR GETTING REJECTED.

PRITZKER, FILL THE BOARD UP WITH MORE MEMBERS IN THE STARTED TO RELEASE FEUER.

>> PEOPLE INCARCERATED YOU KNOW, OLDER PRINCE OLDER PEOPLE IN PRISON AS A RESULT.

AND REMEMBER TALKING TO A COUPLE SENATE REPUBLICANS IN THE FALL.

ONE OF THEM SAID THAT HE WAS VERY PROUD FOR THE WAY THAT FEELS THE SENATE REPUBLICANS TURNED AROUND THE PRB.

ANOTHER SENATE REPUBLICAN TOLD ME, WELL, I THINK THAT THEY'RE BECOMING A LITTLE TOO STRICT, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY ARE DOING AS THEY SHOULD.

AND NOW AFTER THIS HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE TRAGEDY HAPPENS, THEY'RE BEATING THE DRUM OVER AGAIN.

AND I THINK UNLIKE TWENTY-TWENTY TO I DON'T WANT TO SAY I'M LIKE TWENTY-TWENTY TO MAKE IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN HOW SUCCESSFUL THEY'LL BE IF THEY BEAT THAT DRUM, IT'S GET THE BASICALLY THE YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH DANCE OF THE BALL'S IN PRITZKER'S COURT BECAUSE SO FAR THE SENATE GOP HAS REALLY BEEN SPECIFIC ABOUT SOLUTIONS THEY WANT TO PUT FORTH BUT NOT SO MUCH THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, AT LEAST YET.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS SOME COMMON GROUND THAT CAN BE REACHED WITH PRITZKER AND SENATE GOP MEMBERS WHEN IT COMES TO AT LEAST HAVING SOME.

>> DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRAINING.

THIS WAS A REALLY HORRIBLE TRAGEDY.

PRITZKER'S TALKED ABOUT THIS REALLY BEEN POLITICIZED THE PAROLE BOARD IN A WAY THAT BEFORE I THINK FINDING THAT BRIDGE THERE, THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRAINING COULD PROBABLY SOMETHING EVERYONE COULD AGREE ON HERE THIS IS SEEM LIKE SOMETHING THAT COULD COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.

CERTAINLY POLITICS ENTERS THE FRAY, YEAH, I'M HEATHER, SEAN.

I WANT TO TAKE IT BACK TO SOME POLITICS IN THE CITY GOVERNMENT.

24 LONDON, BYRON LOPEZ.

HE EASILY SURVIVE.

>> VOTE TO STRIP HIM OF HIS COMMITTEE CHAIRMANSHIP.

AFTER APPEARING AT THAT RALEIGH, YOU KNOW, CRITICIZING PRESIDENT BIDEN CRITICIZING THE DNC APPEARING BEHIND A BURNED THE AMERICAN FLAG.

SO IT WAS A POINT OF THIS WHOLE EXERCISE.

WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE I THINK IT SIGNALS A WILLINGNESS AMONG MODERATES AND CONSERVATIVES ON THE CITY COUNCIL TO BRING PEACE TO THE FLOOR OF THE CITY COUNCIL IN A WAY THAT WE REALLY HAVEN'T SEEN BEFORE.

THERE WERE CERTAINLY THERE'S NO LOVE LOST BETWEEN A WHOLE BUNCH OF OLDER PEOPLE, BUT NEVER BEFORE THIS YEAR.

HAVE WE SEEN THAT SORT OF TRANSLATE INTO EFFORTS TO SORT DISCIPLINE OR CENSURE, YOU KNOW, PROGRESSIVE MEMBERS OF THE CAUCUS.

>> WHAT WAS INTERESTING IS THAT THERE IS A REAL SENSE IN THAT CHAMBER ON MONDAY THAT THINGS JUST GOTTEN OUT OF HAND IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF IT WAS VERY ON POINT FOR ALDERMAN MARIA HADDEN.

SHE STOOD UP AND SAID, GUYS, CAN WE ALL JUST, YOU DISCONNECT OUR TWITTER ACCOUNTS LIKE BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THIS LIKE OUTRAGE OVER THIS, THE FLAG AND WHAT HAPPENED REALLY SORT OF STARTED ON TWITTER AND IT WAS FUELED BY THESE ACCOUNTS THAT SORT OF RELISHED ANY MISSTEP BY THE MAYOR AND HIS ALLIES.

AND IT REALLY SORT OF SORT OF TOOK OFF.

AND WE ALSO SORT OF SAUCE SHIFTING EXPLANATIONS.

YOU KNOW, FIRST ALDERMAN SECURE LOPEZ WAS ACCUSED OF BURNING THE FLAG AND THEN IT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE THAT HE WAS NEAR THE CHARRED REMAINS OF THE FLAG AND THEN IT WAS WELL, HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER PROTEST THAT CALLED JOE BIDEN GENOCIDE, JOE, AND THAT CALLED FOR, YOU KNOW, PROTESTERS TO GET READY TO BE BEATEN BY CHICAGO POLICE OUTSIDE THE CONVENTION.

AND THAT REALLY SORT OF SHIFTED THE NARRATIVE TO SECURE LOPEZ'S WORDS AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW.

HE WANTS EVERYONE TO STOP.

THE GRANDSTANDING STOPPED DIVISION.

>> COULDN'T HE MAY BE?

SHINE SHINING IRAN HIMSELF AND SAY MAYBE DOING SOME OF THAT, TOO, WITH THESE WITH THESE SPEECHES.

AND WHILE THERE'S STUFF HAPPENING IN HIS WARD, LIKE THE PILLS IN MIGRANT SHELTER, WHICH HE SUPPOSEDLY DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THE EXTENT OF THE CONDITIONS YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN WE HAD REPORTED, I DID FIND IT INTERESTING WHEN ALL OF THIS WAS BEING FLOATED SLASH TWITTER BY SOME OLDER PEOPLE THAT THEY FOCUSED ON THE FLAG ITSELF, WHICH REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HAVE DEBATES ABOUT FIRST AMENDMENT THERE WHEN REALLY, REALLY IT IS FIRST AMENDMENT PROTECTS CERTAIN BUT REALLY THE ISSUE I THOUGHT WAS THE ORGANIZATION THAT HE HAD ALIGNED WITH YOUR.

IF YOU LOOK DEEPER INTO ORGANIZATION, PEOPLE HELP SOME WEIRD LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA POST ABOUT HOW THE HOTTEST FASHION STATEMENT IS FOR KIDS TO GO TO PROTEST FOR THE DNC AND HAVE BRUISES ON THEMSELVES AND NOT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT TO ME IS A POLITICIAN.

I DON'T KNOW.

MAYBE YOU THINK A LITTLE DEEPER ABOUT WHERE YOU SHOW UP WHERE YOU'RE PICTURED.

THAT'S WHAT PARTY BYRON LOPEZ SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT HERE.

BUT OVERALL, IT DOES LOOK A LOT OF GRANDSTANDING I HEATING POINT WHEN TALK ABOUT THE VISION, THE CITY COUNCIL, IT GETS REALLY NASTY NOW IT'S TIME THE RECEIPT OF HIS NEPHEW FOR CITY COUNCIL.

>> YEAH.

WELL, FOR LESS THAN A YEAR, MANY OF THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS ON THE CITY COUNCIL HAD IN THE MINORITY AND SORT OF MADE THEIR POLITICAL BONES AS ACTIVISTS AND ORGANIZERS.

AND NOW WITH THE ELECTION OF MAYOR JOHNSON, THEIR COMMITTEE CHAIRS AND THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF STUFF AND THEY HAVE ACTUAL REAL POWER AT CITY HALL AND PEOPLE SO, YOU SO PERHAPS THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SORT A LEARNING CURVE AGAIN THAT HE CAN NO LONGER BE JUST SOMEBODY WHO SPEAKS AT ALL OF THESE PROTESTS WITHOUT SORT OF TURNING THE WHITE HOT SPOTLIGHT ON HIM.

AND THAT I THINK IS SORT OF WHAT THE LARGER PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT IN CHICAGO HAS GOT TO DEAL MENTION.

THE FACT ACCORDING TO HIM, IT WAS A VETERAN THAT HAD BURNED THE FLAG.

BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HE DOESN'T REALIZE HOW VETERANS AND MIGHT REACT TO THEIR ALDERPERSON.

>> APPEARING AT AN EVENT LIKE THAT.

ALSO SAID THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT HAD BEEN BURNED BEFORE HE SPOKE.

I THINK THE REASON IT WAS A VETERAN, I BELIEVE THERE WAS AN INTERVIEW WITH THIS VETERAN, OUR STATION MAYBE ELSEWHERE AS WELL.

WAS A VETERAN.

AND YES, AND DOWN FROM MISTAKE AND WHICH OBVIOUSLY WAS A LONG AND A FRUITLESS.

I KEEP YOU KNOW, PRESENCE IN THAT MILITARY PRESENCE FOR US IN THAT COUNTRY THAT DIDN'T TOO LONG AGO.

AS FOR CENTRAL LOPEZ YOU KNOW, HE WAS THERE A COMPLAINING ABOUT JOE BIDEN AND THE TREATMENT OF IMMIGRANTS THAT CENTRAL LOPEZ HIMSELF ORIGINALLY FROM SOUTH AMERICA AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE THERE WERE KIND OF MORE INTO THE ISSUE OF OF GAZA AND I'M STOPPING THEM.

THE BOMBING OF THE PALESTINIANS IN GAZA, BY BY ISRAEL THAT WAS STARTED AFTER THE OCTOBER 7TH ATTACKS IN ISRAEL.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGENDAS.

WHAT IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO I THINK IS THAT YOU SEE SOMETHING IN THE CITY COUNCIL THAT YOU SEE.

>> IN THE PARTY AS A WHOLE AS WE COME INTO THIS PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEAR IS FAR LEFT PRESSURING A MORE CENTRIST PRESIDENT, SOME MORE CENTRIST OR YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL THAT I WOULD TO THE RIGHT OF CENTER, HONESTLY ON ISSUES LIKE THIS.

AND, YOU THERE'S THERE'S A LOT OF DIVISION WITHIN THE PARTY THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE IN CHICAGO AT THE DNC A BIG PROTESTS.

AND THAT YOU SEE AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL SEEMS LIKE PRESIDENT BIDEN.

>> SHIFTING A LITTLE BIT EVEN YOU KNOW, KIND OF SHIFTING HIS MESSAGE TO GIVE IN GIVEN WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON AND THAT WARREN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ISRAEL HAS CARRIED OUT.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SHOTSPOTTER.

SOME OTHER PEOPLE ARE PUSHING A PLAN TO KIND OF CONTROVERSIAL DETECTION SYSTEM IN CERTAIN WARDS.

CAN THEY DO THAT?

>> THIS IS AN ORDER THAT WILL GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL SCHEDULED ON APRIL 17TH.

I WOULD BE VERY SURPRISED IF IT GETS A VOTE SINCE IT ONLY TAKES 2 OLDER PEOPLE TO BLOCK A VOTE.

THIS IS ESSENTIALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL THE PEOPLE MOSTLY ON THE SOUTH AND THE WEST SIDE TO VOICE THEIR FRUSTRATION WITH JOHNSON FOR ENDING SHOTSPOTTER WHEN THEIR COMMUNITIES ARE REALLY SUFFERING UNDER INTENSE CRIME AND VIOLENCE.

AND, YOU KNOW, ON SOME LEVEL, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE, RIGHT?

IF THIS IS A TOOL THAT HELPS FIGHT CRIME, WHY WOULD YOU TAKE THAT TOOL AWAY?

BUT JOHNSON'S POINT IS THAT IT DOES NOT HELP AND IT COST THE CITY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND DIVERTS RESOURCES FROM SORT OF ACTUAL WAYS TO FIGHT CRIME.

THERE'S NO MECHANISM FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER THE MAYOR TO DO ANYTHING.

AND THERE'S NO MECHANISM FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO SAY YOU MUST YOU MUST CONTINUE IT IN THESE WARDS.

IT IS.

A LOT SOUND FURY TO DO IT RIGHT SPEAK TO POLICE.

IS DESIGNED TO BE POLICED BY POLICE DISTRICTS.

ACTUALLY GOING TO SAY EVEN MORE BELIEVE ONE OF THE WAS THE BIG PROPONENT OF THIS.

I MEAN.

>> DAVID MOORE IS A POLITICIAN.

HE'S NOT A SOCIAL SCIENTIST WHO'S COME UP WITH DATA SHOWING SHERMAN SOME OF THE SHORTCOMINGS OF SHOTSPOTTER.

>> HE REPRESENTS, YOU PROGRESSION.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT POLICE YEAR BY YEAR, MOST OF THE SHOOTINGS IN CHICAGO, MOST THE MURDERS THE 6TH POLICE DISTRICT PRODUCES AMONG THE HIGHEST NUMBERS IN THOSE CRIMES AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE A SURPRISE THAT EVEN MORE WOULD WANT TO BRING THAT UP AS SOMETHING HE'D LIKE TO RETAIN IN THIS DISTRICT.

BUT REALISTICALLY WITH RULES IN PLACE, IT'S IT'S IT'S NOT GOING BE.

WE SHOULD MENTION THAT MAYOR AFTER A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FORTH DECIDE AND THAT CONTRACT AFTER NOVEMBER PROMISED HE WOULD DO IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT ISSUE FOR HIM.

AND THEN HE AT THE LAST MINUTE WE TALKED ABOUT IT HERE ON THE SHOW.

>> EXTENDED IT IN.

THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION IN THOSE DAYS BEYOND THE END OF THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION BE AND WHAT IS GOING TO ONLY ANOTHER HOT.

AND UNFORTUNATELY.

>> VIOLENCE PLAGUES SUMMER IN CHICAGO.

AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY THAT REALLY DOUBT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL DEBORAH, WHICH BERG HAS COME OUT WITH A REPORT SAYING, YOU KNOW THAT THAT IT'S NOT VERY EFFECTIVE.

YOU HAD TO KIM FOXX SAYING THAT IT LEADS TO VERY FEW PROSECUTIONS.

OTHER PEOPLE EVEN SAY THAT IT'S PUT PEOPLE YOU KNOW, ADAM TOLEDO IN DANGER WHEN THERE WASN'T THAT, YOU ANY ANY OF THAT SORT OF SHOTS TO BE TO BE THE DETECTED AND, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU GET THROUGH ALL OF THIS, YOU STILL AT THE END THAT THEY HAVE A MAYOR WHO DID GET YOU MIGHT KNOW, LOSING THE CITY COUNCIL THAT YOU TOLD ME HE WON'T.

BUT ISN'T IT BAD ENOUGH THAT HE LOST IN A COMMITTEE?

>> RAHM EMANUEL AND DAILY.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ASKED JOHNSON ABOUT THAT HEAT SAY, LOOK, I'M HERE TO LET EVERYBODY HAVE THEIR VOICE, HAVE THEIR SAY.

AND NOW DAVID MOORE CAN GO TO HIS CONSTITUENTS AND SAY, LOOK, I MY HANDS WERE TIED.

ISSUE WAS, YEAH, MAYBE THIS SHOULD HAPPEN BEFORE THAT DECISION TO JUST ALL OUT ANNOUNCER GOING TO CANCEL ALL RIGHT, WATER AND GET THAT.

AND I BECAUSE I THINK SHOTSPOTTER STILL WANT TO SEE IF THEY COULD GET ANOTHER TIMES OVER.

THANKS TO HEATHER'S ARE OWNED AND THE LAW.

JEREMY GARNER AND BRANDON POPE.

AND WE'RE BACK TO WRAP THINGS UP RIGHT AFTER THIS.

>> CHICAGO TONIGHT IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART WHY THE ALEXANDRA AND JOHN NICHOLS FAMILY.

THE POPE BROTHERS FOUNDATION, ADDITIONAL SUPPORT IS PROVIDED BY.

TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION OF CHICAGO.

TONIGHT.

WEEK IN REVIEW IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY AND AND RICH FRANCINE AND DOCTOR ANTHONY BROWN AND THE MOMENT HOW A PROGRESSIVE PHILANTHROPIC FUND IN HONOR OF THE SUPPORTING QUALITY JOURNALISM.

>> AND THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR THIS FRIDAY NIGHT.

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I'M PARISH SHOTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.

HAVE A WONDERFUL WEEKEND.

JEREMY GARNER MONDAY, THE CLIPS THAT YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN SPRINGFIELD ARE GOING TO GO DOWN SOUTH IN LINE OF SIGHT THERE.

THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO TO CARBONDALE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOUTHEASTERN ILLINOIS, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, PARTNERS LIKE 3 HOURS SPRINGFIELD.

SO MAYBE SOMEWHERE WAY DOWN THERE.

>> MAYBE AN HOUR AND A HALF.

WE'LL WE'LL SEE.

>> CLOSED CAPTION HE'S MADE POSSIBLE BY CLIFFORD AND CLIFFORD LAW OFFICES, CHICAGO, PERSONAL INJURY AND WRONGFUL DEATH THAT PROUD TO RECOGNIZE