
Week in Review: Johnson's City Council Meeting; State Budget
5/26/2023 | 26m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
Paris Schutz and guests take on the week's biggest stories.
Officials try to clamp down on holiday weekend crime. Mayor Brandon Johnson passes first City Council test. State lawmakers have a budget — we think. And a damning report on sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.
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Week in Review: Johnson's City Council Meeting; State Budget
5/26/2023 | 26m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
Officials try to clamp down on holiday weekend crime. Mayor Brandon Johnson passes first City Council test. State lawmakers have a budget — we think. And a damning report on sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.
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STATE DEMOCRATS FINALLY AGREE ON A $50 MILLION BUDGET, WE THINK, WHILE MAYOR BRENDA JOHNSON .
>> THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS BEING RECORDED LIVE FROM NAPERVILLE.
>> MAYOR JOHNSON KICKED OFF HIS FIRST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND A SIZABLE VICTORY.
MEANWHILE, JOHNSON AND PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICIALS LAYOUT THEIR SAFETY PLAN FOR THE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND.
>> THIS IS NOT JUST A BALANCED BUDGET, IT'S A GOOD BUDGET.
>>> DEMOCRATS FINALLY AGREE TO A BUDGET THAT GIVES MORE MONEY TO EDUCATION, AND TO THE CITY TO HANDLE THE MICRO CRISIS, BUT QUESTIONS REMAIN ABOUT BALLOONING MEDICAL COST FOR MIGRANTS.
PLANS TO HOUSE UP TO 400 ASYLUM-SEEKERS .
>> DECISIONS AND POLICIES HAVE ALLOWED KNOWN CHILD ABUSERS TO HIDE , OFTEN IN PLAIN SIGHT.
>>> ALLEGING THE CHURCH EMPLOYED NEARLY 100 MORE ABUSERS THAN HE CLAIMED.
MEANWHILE, CARDINAL SEEPAGE GOES ON THE OFFENSIVE.
>> THE LIST FAILS TO EXPLAIN THE BASIS BY WHICH ALLEGATIONS AGAINST THESE INDIVIDUALS WERE SUBSTANTIATED OR DEEMED CREDIBLE.
>>> AND INTO EXPORTS, THE WHITE SOX START TO TURN THINGS AROUND, AND THE BEARS GET THE GO-AHEAD AND ROUTE TO THEIR NEW SUBURBAN FOOTBALL STADIUM.
>>> NOW TO OUR WEEK IN REVIEW PANEL.
NICK DONKEY WITH BLOCK CLUB CHICAGO.
OUR VERY OWN JOANNA HERNANDEZ .
WELCOME ALL OF YOU.
I THINK WE HAVE TO START WITH THIS INCIDENT ON NORTH AVENUE BEACH THIS AFTERNOON.
RIGHT AS BEACHES OPENED, MELEE BREAKS OUT AND GUNFIRE AS HEARD.
AS FAR AS WE KNOW, NO ONE IS INJURED.
>> REALLY, RIGHT AFTER THAT CONVERSATION DAYS BEFORE, YOU HAD ALL OF THE NEWS TRUCKS THERE.
HEY, ALL THE BEACHES ARE OPEN.
THE SUMMER IS STARTING.
IT SEEMED LIKE TWO GROUPS OF YOUNG PEOPLE FIGHTING, AND THEN YOU HEAR GUNFIRE.
>> THAT'S RIGHT, WATCHING SOME OF THESE LOCAL NEWS -- >> THEY CLOSED THE BEACH.
>> THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR BEACHES IN CHICAGO.
IT'S ESSENTIAL.
IT'S WHERE EVERYONE GOES.
>> LOCAL NEWS IS SITTING IN THE VAN DOING A FUN STORY ABOUT THE BEACHES BEING OPEN, AND THEY HEAR THE GUNSHOT.
NICK, DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING DIFFERENT IN MAYOR JOHNSON'S SAFETY PLAN THEN YOU HEARD UNDER MAYOR LIGHTFOOT?
>> THERE IS A DIFFERENT PLAN EMPHASIS.
I THINK PREVIOUS MAYORS HAVE TALKED A LOT ABOUT HOW MANY POLICE ARE GOING TO BE OUT THERE AND SO FORTH, AND YOU ARE HEARING THE GOVERNOR TALK ABOUT THE ANTI-VIOLENCE WORKERS , PEOPLE OUT IN YELLOW VESTS GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE HARDEST HIT NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT SORT OF THING.
FUNDAMENTALLY, IT DOESN'T ADD UP TO ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
I DO THINK IT IS NOTABLE THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT, NOT JUST LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT TRYING TO REACH PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE.
>> THE GOVERNOR HAS TALKED ABOUT SENDING 30 PEACEKEEPING OFFICERS.
WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY GOING TO DO?
>> THERE IS A LOT TO DO.
ONE OF THE ENDURING MEMORIES I HAVE OF THIS LAST MAYORAL CAMPAIGN WAS , HOW MANY HUNDREDS OF TIMES THAT AUDIT WAS QUOTED ABOUT THE 911 SYSTEM , AND THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE ORDER OF 20,000 OR 30,000 CALLS THAT DID NOT GET A RESPONSE, AND THESE INCLUDED ASSAULTS IN PROGRESS , PEOPLE WITH GUNS AND KNIVES ATTACKING OTHER PEOPLE.
THE POLICE WERE JUST OVERWHELMED.
30 IS BETTER THAN NONE.
>> I DON'T REMEMBER, AND MAYBE I'M MISSING SOMETHING, I DON'T REMEMBER THE GOVERNOR SO PROACTIVELY WORKING WITH MAYOR LIGHTFOOT BEFORE A WEEKEND LIKE THIS.
IS THIS PERHAPS A SIGN HE HAS A BETTER WORKING RELATIONSHIP?
>> PERHAPS.
IT IS KIND OF EARLY.
TO THE QUESTION OF THE PEACEKEEPERS COLLABORATING WITH GROUPS ON THE GROUND DOING INTERRUPTER TYPE WORK , AND THEY TALK ABOUT HOW THEY ARE TRYING TO GET IN THE MIDDLE OF CONFLICT, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED ON THE BEACH TODAY.
GUNFIRE STARTS WITH, SIMPLE DISAGREEMENTS, THEY JUST BOIL OVER.
THE PROBLEM, THOUGH, IS THAT IF WE ARE LOOKING FOR MEANINGFUL PROGRESS THIS SUMMER, WE ARE EXPECTING TOO MUCH, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE MAYOR IS TRYING TO DO.
IT'S MUCH DEEPER THAN WHAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT.
>> IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE A LONG-TERM PROJECT , AND IT HAS BEEN FOR EVERY MAYOR.
JOHNSON'S FIRST CITY COUNCIL MEETING, MIKE FLANNERY, HE HAD A STANDUP ROUTINE GOING ON.
HOW DID HE HANDLE HIS FIRST RUN AROUND THE BLOCK WITH THE ALDERMAN?
>> HE KILLED IT.
HE STARTED BY LIFTING UP THE PHONE AND HE'S GOT THE COUNCIL BEHIND HIM.
HE TOOK A SELFIE.
THEN, HE CRACKED A SERIES OF JOKES, AND AFTER THE COUNSEL BEGAN, HE SAID I'M GOING TO TAKE THIS STANDUP ROUTINE ON THE ROAD.
IT WAS A LIGHTER TOUCH THAN WE WERE USED TO FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
IN THE END, HE GOT A 41-9 VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE COUNCIL REORGANIZATION PLAN.
A ROSTER OF CHAIRS AND VICE CHAIRS AND MEMBERS THAT HE WANTS.
>> THAT 41-9 VOTE, FOR LITTLE WHILE, FOLKS THOUGHT MAYBE THIS ISN'T SUCH A SLAMDUNK THAT MAYOR JOHNSON IS GOING TO SCRAP WITH CITY COUNCIL, DOING WHAT EVERY MAYOR HAS DONE FOR SEEMINGLY EVER, DICTATING WHO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GOING TO BE.
ONLY NINE PEOPLE VOTED AGAINST IT.
DOES THAT LOOK LIKE A PRETTY SMALL OPPOSITION BLOCK TO YOU?
>> NINE IS ABOUT EIGHT MORE .
IT'S TOO SOON TO TELL.
I WASN'T SURPRISED THAT HE HAD THE VOTES TO GET THROUGH.
IT WAS A COMFORTABLE MARGIN.
HE SAID HE GAVE HIMSELF AN A. I QUICKLY DID THE MATH.
82%.
IS THAT AN A?
GRADED ON A CURVE, I GUESS.
>> WHAT THE BROTHER GOT TO DO AROUND HERE TO GET A STANDING OVATION OR GET SOME APPLAUSE?
>> THE TAKE AWAY FOR PEOPLE , GETTING INTO WHAT THE COMMITTEES ARE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE EXECUTIVE OF THE CITY PICKS THE LEADERS OF THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS TO SEE THAT MY PEOPLE DO WANT THINGS TO GET DONE, BUT I DON'T THINK A LOT OF RESIDENTS WOULD BE REASSURED.
>> SO MANY OLDER PEOPLE WE KNOW FROM COVERING THIS FOR SO LONG COVET THOSE POSITIONS BECAUSE THEY COME WITH JOBS, EXTRA MONEY.
THEY DON'T NECESSARILY DO A WHOLE LOT, DO THEY?
>> A GOOD CHUNK OF THEM RARELY DO.
THE IMMIGRATION COMMITTEE WENT A YEAR AND A HALF WITHOUT MEETING.
NO REASON TO CONVENE OR TALK.
THERE HAS BEEN ISSUES AT THE AIRPORTS.
THE AVIATION COMMITTEE HASN'T MET SINCE NOVEMBER.
SOME OF THE COMMITTEES ARE VERY ACTIVE AND VERY POWERFUL.
OTHERS, LIKE YOU SAID, ARE PLUGS FOR LAWYER LOYAL ALDER PEOPLE.
>> $51 MILLION OUT OF THE BUDGET SURPLUS TO GO TOWARDS HELPING MIGRANTS.
WHAT WOULD THAT MONEY BE USED FOR?
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.
I HAVE BEEN COVERING IT.
I'M SURE YOU HAVE BEEN COVERING IT FOR MONTHS.
THEY ARE CALLING IT A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS.
THEY NEED SHELTER.
THEY NEED IT FOR HEALTHCARE.
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT 10,000 PEOPLE HAVE ARRIVED TO CHICAGO FROM TEXAS.
10,000 PEOPLE.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED ARRIVING HERE.
THERE ARE SO MANY LAYERS.
I HAVE TALKED TO DOZENS OF ALDERMAN THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE ALL IN DIFFERENT PLACES.
THEY DON'T SEEM LIKE THERE IS A GROUP.
>> THAT'S GOING TO BE A JOB FOR MAYOR JOHNSON, TO HAVE A COHESIVE PLAN.
IT SEEMS LIKE STATE, CITY, COUNTY, FEDERAL HAVE NOT BEEN WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS.
THIS VOTE TO DELAY THIS FUNDING, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT FUNDING IS GOING TO GO AWAY.
EVENTUALLY, THEY WILL COME BACK AND PASS IT.
>> I DON'T KNOW.
I FEEL LIKE IT IS SPLIT.
>> IT WILL GET PAST.
YOU NEVER KNOW.
IT SOUNDS CRAZY, BUT I THINK MOST PEOPLE ARE IN FAVOR OF DOING IT.
THERE WASN'T A VOTE ON THIS.
THERE WERE THREE ALDERPEOPLE THAT DID A REPORT ON THIS.
THEY SAID WE WANT TO TABLE IT FOR NOW.
THERE HAVE BEEN ROUGH SPOTS FOR PREVIOUS MEASURES UNDER MAYOR LIGHTFOOT , JUST FUNDING MEASURES ALONG THE WAY.
IN THE END, AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY HAS VOTED FOR THOSE THINGS.
IT IS A SORE SPOT FOR DIFFERENT ALDERPEOPLE, BECAUSE SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES ARE SAYING, LOOK, WE HAVE BEEN STRAINED FOR YEARS, FOR DECADES.
THE SPEED OF THE RESPONSE TO THIS CRISIS DOES NOT MATCH -- >> THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF THESE COMMUNITY HEARINGS NOW.
SOUTH SHORE.
A JUNIOR COLLEGE ON THE WEST SIDE.
NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HELP MIGRANTS.
>> SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT.
>> GIVE US A SPECTRUM OF WHAT YOU'RE HEARING IN THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
>> SOUTH SHORE WAS VERY INTERESTING.
THEY WERE VERY FRUSTRATED.
THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR RESOURCES FOR YEARS, AND NOW THE CITY WANTS TO TURN THESE VACANT BUILDINGS INTO MIGRANT SHELTERS, BUT THESE MEETINGS GET VERY HEATED.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HELP.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE ANGRY, AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE CITY -- >> DO YOU SENSE RACIAL UNDERTONES THAT SOME OF THESE MEETINGS?
IT SOMETIMES FEEL LIKE IT IS THE BLACK COMMUNITY BEING PITTED AGAINST THE LATINO COMMUNITY.
>> YES.
>> I THINK IT'S PEOPLE WHO FEEL -- LOOK, MY EXPERIENCE, IT'S PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOMELESS , WHO KNOW CHICAGOANS , WHO FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE APPROPRIATE HEALTHCARE.
WHO ARE THESE GUYS?
THESE 10,000 GUYS THAT ARE SUDDENLY JUMPING THE LINE.
YOU HAVE 51 MILLION BUCKS FOR THEM?
WE COULD'VE USED $51 MILLION HERE 10 YEARS AGO.
>> THEY ARE HUMAN.
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TAKING THE TIME TO GET TO KNOW THESE PEOPLE, TRAVELING THROUGH THE JUNGLE FOR MONTHS AT A TIME.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF THE UNKNOWN, OF NOT KNOWING.
OH, HERE WE GO, THE CRIMINALS ARE COMING.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CHILDREN AND FAMILIES COMING.
>> I THINK THE FOCUS -- THE THING I AM HEARING , PERHAPS, VAGUELY, OR WHERE THE PARALLELS ARE THERE, -- >> THIS IS THAT PERILOUS STRETCH OF JUNGLE BETWEEN PANAMA AND COLUMBIA THEY ARE MARCHING THROUGH.
>> BUT, ON THE OTHER HAND, THEY ARE SAYING, WE COULD'VE USED -- NOW, YOU ARE GOING TO PITCH THIS BUILDING UP ?
WE COULD'VE USED THAT 10 YEARS AGO.
>> THIS IS A CONUNDRUM FOR MAYOR BRANDON JOHNSON.
ESPECIALLY, PROGRESSIVES, WHO ARE HIS BASE.
HOW DOES HE BRIDGE THE GAP HERE?
>> THIS IS A VERY DELICATE ISSUE.
YOU HAVE ALDERMEN RIGHT NOW , AS A REFERENDUM ON THEIR LEADERSHIP.
I THINK DAVID MOORE , DURING THE COUNCIL MEETING -- I HAVE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR ME TO LOOK OUT FOR THEM.
WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET THESE THINGS FROM THE CITY.
HERE IS A BUILDING THAT SAT VACANT, LITERALLY, FOR YEARS, AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED WITH IT.
PEOPLE ARRIVE, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN -- >> THIS IS PART OF THE STATE BUDGET DEBATE.
THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS HELD UP THE STATE BUDGET FOR THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS.
HEALTHCARE FOR NONCITIZENS.
THERE IS NO FEDERAL MATCH FOR THIS.
WHEN FORMER STATE REPRESENTATIVE, NOW CONGRESSMAN, DELIA RAMIREZ, PROPOSED THAT COVERAGE BE EXTENDED TO NONCITIZENS, HER ESTIMATE WAS IT WOULD COST ABOUT $2 MILLION OR $3 MILLION A YEAR.
IT IS NOW $1.1 BILLION AND COUNTING, MAYBE AS MUCH AS $4 BILLION.
>> THE BUDGET THAT DEMOCRATS JUST AGREED TO, THEY ARE SAYING IT WON'T COST THAT MUCH BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE CONTROLS.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
>> HERE IS PART OF THE ANGER OF A WOMAN IN THE SOUTH SHORE.
SHE HAS TO GO THROUGH MANAGED CARE.
SHE AND HER FAMILY HAVE A CO-PAY.
THE MIGRANTS DON'T -- HAVEN'T HAD ANY OF THAT.
PRESUMABLY, NOW, THE GOVERNOR AT HIS NEWS CONFERENCE YESTERDAY SAID THERE WILL BE TOOLS FOR CONTROLLING THE COST.
I'M ASSUMING THE MIGRANTS, NOW, ARE PERHAPS GOING TO BE FUNNELED THROUGH MANAGED CARE.
MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER TOOLS.
THEY MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD A CO-PAY.
THOSE WHO DO HAVE SOME CASH MAY BE ASKED TO MAKE A CO-PAY.
>> HOW ARE THEY GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT IF THEY CAN'T EVEN WORK?
THAT'S ANOTHER LAYER.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST BUSES THAT ARRIVED HERE.
THE CITY WORKED REALLY HARD TO FIND SHELTERS FOR THEM.
THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MONTHS.
NOW, THERE ARE HUNDREDS MORE COMING.
>> WE SHOULD STIPULATE, FOR AUDIENCE MEMBERS, BECAUSE THEY ARE WAITING TO HAVE THEIR ASYLUM CLAIMS ADJUDICATED.
THEY CANNOT GET AUTHORIZATION TO WORK.
IS THERE ANYTHING THE MAYOR OR GOVERNOR CAN DO TO RELAX SOME OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS?
IT SEEMS LIKE FOLKS ON ALL ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM ARE ASKING FOR IT.
IF FOLKS ARE HERE, THEY MIGHT AS WELL BE ALLOWED TO WORK.
>> IT'S BETTER.
>> THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN AWOL ON THIS ISSUE, FOR THE MOST PART.
THE CITY ASKED THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR -- I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MANY TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
THAT IS JUST A METAPHOR FOR THE WHOLE LACK OF LEADERSHIP ON THIS WHOLE ISSUE.
THIS IS WHERE THINGS HAVE FALLEN DOWN TO.
COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ALREADY STARVED FOR RESOURCES ARE OUTRAGED.
ALL THESE CLOSED SCHOOLS AROUND CHICAGO.
SUDDENLY, THERE IS A -- AFTER THE CITY COULDN'T FIND A WAY TO WORK WITH COMMUNITY TEAMS.
IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.
IT COMES DOWN TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE, A LOT OF DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES THAT NEED ATTENTION AND NEED RESOURCES AND MAYOR JOHNSON IS GOING TO HAVE TO GO OUT THERE.
HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, LOOK, WE ARE GOING TO -- EVEN AT INAUGURATION, HE SAID THERE IS ROOM IN CHICAGO FOR EVERYBODY, AND I THINK THAT IS THE MESSAGE.
>> WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO THIS OTHER BOMBSHELL.
FIVE, SIX YEARS IN THE MAKING, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL COMES OUT WITH THIS BIG REPORT ON SEXUAL ABUSE IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
THE BIG TAKE AWAY HERE, AROUND 100 MORE CLERGY MEMBERS THEY FOUND, HAD CREDIBLE ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL ABUSE, THAT THE CHURCH PREVIOUSLY DID NOT DISCLOSE.
WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND ITS MANAGEMENT OF THIS ISSUE?
>> IT SAID THE CHURCH EITHER DIDN'T HAVE A VERY GOOD HANDLE OR THEY WERE VERY HONEST ABOUT IT.
I DON'T THINK EITHER ONE OF THOSE IS COMFORTING IN ANY WAY.
STATES, PENNSYLVANIA, ILLINOIS, A FEW OTHERS NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS ISSUE .
WE ARE FINDING OUT , AS WE HAVE FOR DECADES NOW , BY JOURNALISTS AND OTHERS, WHEN YOU DIG DEEPER, YOU FIND VERY TROUBLING THINGS.
>> IF THE AG FOUND THE STUFF, HOW COME THEY DIDN'T SHARE WITH US DURING THE INVESTIGATION?
WELL, WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT SOME OF THESE FOLKS BECAUSE THEY WERE PART OF DIFFERENT CATHOLIC ORDERS.
IS THIS AN ACCEPTABLE RESPONSE FROM THE CARDINAL?
>> IN FAIRNESS TO THE CARDINAL, NO.
AT LEAST, IN THE INTERVIEW , HE SAID THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO APOLOGIZE, AND HE DID.
HE SAID, WE DO OFFER ASSISTANCE TO THE VICTIMS .
IT IS WORTH PUTTING THIS INTO CONTEXT TOO.
THE CHICAGO ARCHDIOCESE WAS A PIONEER , NATIONALLY, IN CONFRONTING THIS.
DOWNSTATE, MOST OF THESE NEW NAMES CAME FROM DOWNSTATE DIOCESES.
BELLEVILLE, PEORIA, SPRINGFIELD, AND ROCKFORD.
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN AS TRANSPARENT , AS YOU ALL KNOW.
>> HE IS THE ONE THAT HAS TO FACE THE FIRE.
>> AGAIN, PUTTING THIS IN CONTEXT, THESE NUMBERS NOW GO BACK TO 1950.
IN SOME CASES, THEY WERE ORDAINED BEFORE WORLD WAR I.
THERE ARE ALLEGATIONS GOING BACK TO THE 1930s AND THEN, THESE ORDERS .
IF SOME OF THESE RELIGIOUS ORDERS, MOST TO RUN HIGH SCHOOLS HERE AND IN THE CITY, AS WELL AS A COUPLE OF UNIVERSITIES -- I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR RECORDS.
THEY ARE OUTSIDE THE ARCHDIOCESE OF CHICAGO.
I CAN'T SUBPOENA THEM.
>> THAT'S THE WRONG ANSWER.
MAYBE THAT IS TECHNICALLY TRUE.
WHAT YOU NEED TO SAY IS, WE ARE GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.
WE ARE GOING TO GET A HANDLE ON IT.
PROBLEMS WITH THE RELIGIOUS ORDERS, AND THEIR LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
SOMEONE NEEDS TO STEP UP.
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, LISTEN, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST HIERARCHICAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE WORLD , AND TO HAVE SOMEONE COME OUT THERE AND SAY, I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
>> I KNOW, BUT THE POINT IS -- LET ME CHALLENGE IT.
THAT IS A MISSTATEMENT.
HE SAID -- THEY HAVE GOTTEN A HANDLE ON IT , ON THE ABUSE, BUT THESE RECORDS, THESE DOCUMENTS, IN SOME CASES, ARE IN FAR-FLUNG PLACES, PERHAPS, NOT EVEN IN THE UNITED STATES.
THEY HAVE GOTTEN A HANDLE ON THE CURRENT ABUSERS.
>> DOES ANYBODY ELSE OF THE TABLE HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT IS TRUE?
>> ALL THE ALLEGATIONS NOW, WHETHER IT IS THIRD-PARTY, ANONYMOUS, OR SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SPECIFICALLY POINTS A FINGER, WE HAVE SEEN THIS WITH -- AN ALLEGATION REMOVES YOU IMMEDIATELY FROM THE MINISTRY.
IT ALSO IS TURNED OVER IMMEDIATELY TO THE STATES ATTORNEY AND THE POLICE.
>> NO ONE DOUBTS THE PROCESS NOW.
>> THIS CLAIM THAT THEY'VE GOT A HANDLE ON IT IS JUST FALSE.
>> A LOT OF OPINIONS ON THIS.
WE DO HAVE TO MOVE ON TO A STORY WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING.
WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT THE SCHOOL CLOSURES, 10 YEARS ON.
50 YEARS AGO, MAYOR RAHM EMANUEL, THEY PROMISE THAT CLOSING THE SCHOOLS WOULD IMPROVE OUTCOMES FOR STUDENTS, SAVE DISTRICT MONEY, AND THE BUILDINGS WOULD BE REFURBISHED FOR OTHER COMMUNITY NEEDS.
WHAT'S THE SCORECARD ON ALL THESE PROBLEMS?
>> PARTICULARLY, IN TERMS OF OUTCOMES FOR THE CHILDREN, WE FOUND IN OUR ANALYSIS , LESS THAN HALF OF THE BUILDINGS -- WE FOUND THAT THE KIDS WHO WERE IN SCHOOLS THAT WERE CLOSED ARE NOT FARING ANY BETTER THAN OTHER SCHOOLS.
SOME OF THE SCHOOLS WERE SPARED, AND WERE NOT TOUCHED, DIRECTLY.
IT LOOKS LIKE, NOT MUCH AT ALL CHANGED FOR THESE CHILDREN WHEN THEY WERE SUPPOSEDLY PUT INTO BETTER LEARNING SITUATIONS.
THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT OVERALL OUTCOMES IN CHICAGO.
WE HAVE SOME VERY BIG CHALLENGES.
>> EVERYONE ACKNOWLEDGES THERE ARE UNDER ENROLLED SCHOOLS.
>> INDEED.
THE SHUFFLE GAME , THIS PRESUMPTION THAT THE SCHOOLS WERE BAD, THE STAFF WAS BAD, WE NEED TO MOVE THE KIDS INTO A DIFFERENT SITUATION AND THINGS WILL GET BETTER.
IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE.
ONE OF THE THINGS PUBLIC RESEARCH DID IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE CLOSINGS, KIDS HAVE TO BE IN SCHOOLS WAS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER LEVELS OF RESOURCES.
THESE SCHOOLS WENT TO SCHOOLS VERY SIMILAR TO THE SCHOOLS THEY LEFT.
>> THIS IS GOING TO BE A PRIORITY FOR BRANDON JOHNSON.
BEFORE WE GO TONIGHT, MIKE FLANNERY HAS KIND OF A MILESTONE.
AFTER JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE BUSINESS, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE AN EARLY RETIREMENT AND GO SEE THE WORLD.
WE WISH YOU THE BEST.
WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST APPEARANCE ON THE WEEK IN REVIEW?
>> I THINK IT WAS IN THE MID-'70s.
>> HOW MANY MAYORS NOW?
>> 10 MAYORS.
I STARTED AT THE SUN-TIMES JUNE 18th, 1973.
NEXT MONDAY WILL MARK HALF A CENTURY.
10 MAYORS.
EIGHT GOVERNORS.
>> ONE OF THOSE MAYORS SERVED FOR 21 YEARS.
>> I COVERED RICHARD J'S LAST CAMPAIGN.
WE GET TO 10 BY HAVING DAVID OR IN THERE.
>> I THINK YOU BROUGHT A BIT OF A PROP.
>> THIS WAS SOMETHING YOU CAN GET FROM THE LAST COUPLE OF MAYORS.
THIS IS FROM 1973 NIGHT 1974.
A TELEPHONE DIRECTORY OF THE STAFF.
THESE ARE THE EXTENSIONS OF CABINET OFFICERS.
>> THEY WERE THE PEOPLE TO BE NOT SEEN OR HEARD, JUST GO THROUGH THE SPOKESPEOPLE.
MIKE, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ON A STELLAR CAREER.
WE WILL HAVE YOU BACK ON BEFORE YOU SIGN OFF, AND WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT IT.
WE OWE A LOT TO YOU.
I HAVE FOLLOWED YOU OVER THE YEARS.
>> I LOOK FORWARD TO COMING BACK AND TALKING TO YOU.
>> WE WILL DO THAT.
THANK YOU ALL FOR A VERY SPIRITED DISCUSSION.
WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
MY THANKS TO MIKE FLANNERY, JOANNA HERNANDEZ, AND THAT IS OUR SHOW FOR THIS FRIDAY NIGHT.
DON'T FORGET, YOU CAN SEE THE WEEK IN REVIEW STREAMED ON FACEBOOK, AND AT WTTW.COM /NEWS.
WE LEAVE YOU TONIGHT WITH A SONG FROM THE ICONIC PERFORMER, TINA TURNER, WHO DIED WEDNESDAY.
REST IN PEACE.
SHE PERFORMED, RIGHT HERE, DOWN THE HALL.
HERE SHE IS DOING PROUD MARY.
THIS IS BEFORE SHE BLEW UP WITH HER COMEBACK.
FOR THE WEEK IN REVIEW, I AM PARIS SCHULTZ.
THANKS FOR WATCHING.

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