>> THE OHIO RACES FOR GOVERNOR IN THE U. S. SENATE REMAINS A TOSS-UP.

> >> WELCOME TO COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD.

I'M MIKE THOMPSON.

THE RACES FOR OHIO GOVERNOR AND U. S. SENATE REMAIN VERY TIGHT.

A NEW POLL SHOWS DEMOCRATS WITH SLIGHT ADVANTAGES BUT STILL WITHIN THE MARGIN OF ERROR.

FIRST FOR THE GOVERNOR, AMY ACTON WITH A THREE-POINT LEAD OVER VITEK RAMASWAMY.

SO THEY ARE BASICALLY TIED.

AND THE SAME FOR THE SENATE, AGAIN WITHIN THE MARGIN OF ERROR.

SO IF WE WERE LOOKING FOR ANY CLARITY IN THE WAY THAT THE VOTERS WERE MOVING WE STILL DON'T HAVE IT.

TO BREAK DOWN THIS WEEK'S TOPIC, WE WELCOME OUR PANEL.

LOU, WE'LL START WITH YOU, LET'S ASSUME AND PUT THE MARGIN OF ERROR OUT, ASIDE AND LET'S ASSUME THAT BROWN AND ACTON HAVE A THREE-POINT LEAD IS.

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IS THAT ENOUGH TO WIN THREE WEEKS OUT FOR ELECTION DAY?

>> WELL, FIRST I HAVEN'T SEEN THE POLL SINCE LABOR DAY AND THE ENTHUSIASM GAP IS VERY REAL AND WHAT I SEE FROM THE POLL AND BEING AROUND IN THE COMMUNITIES WATCHING THE CANDIDATES, I THINK IN THE RACE FOR SENATE BROWN IS PUTTING ON A MASTERCLASS HOW TO DEFINE YOUR OPPONENT.

HE DEFINED HIS OPPONENT IN RAISING UTILITY COSTS AND DATA CENTERS AND DR.

ACTON HAS EFFECTIVELY BEEN ABLE TO BASICALLY BEAT BACK A MAJOR ONSLAUGHT OF FALSE AND MISLEADING LIES BY THE RAMASWAMY CAMPAIGN.

DEMOCRATS ARE MOTIVATED, ENERGIZED.

THERE APPEARS TO BE A GAP.

AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE SAYING TWO YEARS AGO WE TRUSTED REPUBLICANS ON ECONOMY, INFLATION, CORRUPTION.

TODAY, THEY CHOOSE THE DEMOCRATS TO DO BETTER ON THE ISSUES.

>> GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT RAMASWAMY HAS PUT INTO THE RACE BEING TIED INCLUDING THE MARGIN OF ERROR, THAT'S NOT GOOD NEWS FOR HIM.

>> IT'S STILL EARLY AND BECAUSE OHIO, TRUMP CARRIED BY 12% AND CLEARLY THE ENVIRONMENT IS DIFFERENT THAT YEAR THAN IT WAS IN 2012.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE GERRYMANDERING THING PASSING 60- 20 THIS IS A POLL WITH A LOT OF TECHNICAL FLAWS.

THE BIG THING IS HOW DO YOU MEASURE VOTER TURNOUT?

THEY DON'T DO IT VERY WELL.

"THE NEW YORK TIMES" DO IT MUCH BETTER.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TURN OUT PEOPLE AGED 45 VERSUS UNDER 45 THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE.

INTERNALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, IT'S DIFFERENT HOW IT'S LIKELY WHO WILL TURNOUT.

>> INFLATION, THE ECONOMY IS NUMBER ONE.

61% SAID THAT THE COUNTRY'S ON THE WRONG TRACK.

REGARDLESS OF TURNOUTS, BOTH NUMBERS ARE REAL.

RIGHT?

>>NO, NO.

IT'S DEFINITELY TIGHTER THAN IT WAS IN 2024 AND I AM NOT PREDICTING THAT THE DEMOCRATS AUTOMATICALLY WIN, BUT ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN.

IN 2008 AND 12, O OBAMA WAS ON THE TICKET.

AND THE KEY IS THE YOUNGER VOTERS.

>> YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT THE TURNOUT.

I DON'T THINK THAT AMY ACTON OR RAMASWAMY IS SWAYING VOTERS.

WHO TURNS OUT?

INDEPENDENTS SEEM TO BE ENTHUSED IN THIS POLL ACCORDING TO THE AUTHOR.

>> I'M LOOKING AT THE POLL, AND NUMBER ONE IS INTEREST RATES.

ALL THINGS FLOW DOWNSTREAM FROM THERE AND GAS PRICES ARE NOT ONLY HIGH BUT GOING UP AND WE ARE GOING UP ON THE ELECTION NOT ONLY WITH PRICE INCREASES BUT A PRICE INCREASE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROADSIDE EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT IS GOING UP.

SERVING GETTING EXPENSIVE.

AND WE HAVE HISTORICAL FACTS THAT IT'S A PARTY OUT OF POWER THAT PERFORMS IN THE ELECTION CYCLES.

I PERSONALLY AM SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T PUT A LOT OF STOCK IN POLLING.

AND I THINK THAT'S AN ALARM BELL FOR TRUMP.

>> THE POLL SHOWED PRESIDENT TRUMP'S APPROVAL RATE IS 40%.

IT WAS IN THE MID-50s TWO YEARS AGO WHEN HE WAS ELECTED PERIOD.

THROUGH THE A SHARP DROP.

>> IT'S DEFINITELY A DROP BUT HE WON IN '24 BY 12 POINTS.

IT WILL BE SHRINKING.

AND I WANT TO REMIND PEOPLE THERE WAS A TIME IN HISTORY, NOT FAR BACK, 2018 WHEN TRUMP WAS IN HIS FIRST PRESIDENCY AND MIKE DeWINE WON BY FOUR POINTS AND POLLING AND PREDICTIONS AND TRENDS ARE RELEVANT BUT THEY ARE NOT THE DECIDING FACTOR.

>> REPUBLICANS TEND TO BREAK LATE.

THEY COME HOME LATE.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE.

MIKE DeWINE AND RICHARD CORDRY WAS AHEAD AND DeWINE PULLED IT OUT, FAIRLY NARROWLY BUT PULLED IT OUT AND THAT COULD INVOLVE HAPPEN AGAIN IN THIS RACE, THESE RACES.

>> THIS YEAR FEELS DIFFERENT.

TO YOUR POINT ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP'S POLLING, CERTAINLY, HE'S UNDERWATER.

40% APPROVE AND 60% DISAPPROVE AND I THINK THE SIGNATURE THING HE RAN ON, MIKE, HE WAS GOING TO BRING THE COST OF LIVING DOWN.

THE COST OF LIVING HAS GONE UP.

GAS IS $5 A GALLON.

GROCERIES ARE OUT OF REACH FOR WORKING PEOPLE IN OHIO.

HE CHOSE TO GO TO WAR WITH NO END IN SIGHT AFTER PROMISING TO GET US OUT OF FOREVER WARS.

I THINK THAT HAS LENT TO DISCOURAGING AND DEMOTIVATING HIS BASE AND ENERGIZING DEMOCRATS.

AND I THINK THIS POLL, NOW WE HAVE TIME TO GO TO YOUR POINT, SURE, DEMOCRATS TEND TO COME OUT A LITTLE LATER AND WE HAVE TO KEEP YOUR PEDAL TO THE METAL, AND CERTAINLY, THE TREND SIDELINE THERE AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CANDIDATES.

PEOPLE UNDERESTIMATED DR.

ACTON.

THIS IS A POLL THAT DEMOCRATS WOEFULLY UNDER ESTIMATED HER CONNECTION WITH THE VOTERS.

SHE HAD THE CONNECTION AHEAD THIS AND SHE CAN WEATHER A $60 MILLION ONSLAUGHT OF ATTACK ADS.

THAT IS IMPRESSIVE.

>> AND A LOOK AT THE ENDORSEMENTS.

THE POLITICAL ARM OF THE OHIO MEDICAL SYSTEM IS OVERLOOKED ON THAT SPECTRUM BUT NOT SO MUCH THIS YEAR.

THE GROUP THAT INCLUDES DOCTORS HAVE ENDORSED DR.

ACTON.

1000 DOCTORS DISAGREE.

THEY SIGNED A LETTER SAYING THEY SUPPORT ACTION CITING RAMASWAMY'S STATEMENT TWO YEARS AGO SAYING THAT MEDICARE AND MEDICAID WAS MISTAKE AND THE BASIC REASONS WHY THEY DIDN'T ENDORSE.

YOU DID DIGGING AND FOUND MORE INTANGIBLE REASONS THEY WENT WITH RAMASWAMY.

>> I THINK THE MEDICAL ASSOCIATION ALMOST FELT A NEED TO ALMOST EXPLAIN THEMSELVES AFTER IT.

IT FOLLOW THAT IS A GROUP OF DOCTORS WILL SELECT ONE OF THEIR OWN.

RAMASWAMY HAS A MEDICAL BACKGROUND AND WIFE IS A THROAT SURGEON.

DOCTORS AS A PACK BEHAVE LIKE THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND THEY PROVINCIAL.

AND IN LAYMAN'S TERMS, WHERE DO DOCTORS GET A MONOPOLY IN THE LABOR MARKET?

THEY ARE SAYING THAT RAMASWAMY WILL SORT OF PROTECT THE SPACES WHERE DOCTORS PRACTICE OVER NURSES, ET ET CETERA AND NUMBER TWO, IN 200 FOR, I AM SORRY TO BORE YOU, BUT THEY CAPPED THE NON- ECONOMIC DAMAGES YOU CAN WIN AGAINST A DOCTOR.

IF SOMEONE MESSES UP YOUR SPINAL SURGERY, ALL IT WOULD TAKE IS INDEX IT TO INFLATION IN THE CURRENT DATE.

TO SAY THAT THE LAW IN 2004 WE WILL BRING INTO TODAY'S DOLLARS.

THE ALARM THIS, WILL BANKRUPT DOCTORS -- >> THIS IS A LIMIT ON THE MALPRACTICE?

THE CAP?

>> YEAH.

DOCTORS AND PEOPLE WHO SHOULD THEM, RAMASWAMY IS THE SAFER CANDIDATE.

>> THEY SAY IT'S BUSINESS.

>> DOCTORS ARE A LABOR GROUP.

>> YOU COULD ALSO ARGUE THAT DOCTORS KNOW THE FELLOW DOCTORS THE MOST AND SHE WAS STATE HEALTH DIRECTOR AND WHY WOULDN'T THEY BE FOR SURE?

BUT CLEARLY RAMASWAMY HAS BUILT INTERESTING COALITIONS WITH THE CONSTRUCTION TRADE AND OTHER UNIONS THAT NORMALLY A REPUBLICAN DOESN'T GET.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE DECIDING FACTOR BUT IT RAISES INTERESTING QUESTIONS WHY WON'T DOCTORS BACK A FELLOW DOCTOR?

>> MY PEERS DON'T ENDORSE ME, AND SOME OF THEM BUT THE LEADERS DID NOT -- >> STILL HAD A LOT OF VOICES COMING OUT, OVER A THOUSAND SAYING THEY SUPPORT DR.

ACTON.

I THINK JAKE MAKES A POINT THAT THERE IS A BUSINESS CASE THAT THE DEMOCRATS TEND TO BE MORE CLOSELY AFFILIATED WITH FOLKS SEEKING TO GET DAMAGE FOR THOSE WHO THAT HAVE BEEN INJURED BUT I THINK, LOOK.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS RACE WILL NOT BE DECIDED ON WHAT HAPPENS FROM ASSOCIATION ENDORSEMENTS, SOME GET OUT OF 270 A LITTLE MORE FREQUENTLY AND SEE THAT THE ON THE GROUND.

RIGHT?

YOU GET OUT THERE AND SEE THIS RACE WILL BE DEFINED ON AFFORDABILITY.

PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD PAY FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE COSTS AND HOUSING COSTS AND GROCERIES, GASOLINE.

THAT IS WHAT IS DRIVING I THINK, THE LEAD IN THE POLLS.

>> THIS SPLIT WITH THE 1000 DOCTORS THAT SIGNED THIS LETTER AND THE LEADERS AND WE HAVE SEEN IT WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IS.

THIS SORT OF INDICATIVE OF THESE ARE TWO OUTSIDERS.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY WILL BE AS ELECTED LEADERS.

THAT ANGST FILTERING DOWN FROM UNIONS AND ASSOCIATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT?

>> I DON'T READ IT LIKE THAT.

IT'S A SIMPLE BUSINESS CASE.

SHE'S JUST BETTER FOR BUSINESS AND IT'S INTERESTING THAT RAMASWAMY THINKS THAT MEDICAID AND MEDICARE WERE MISTAKES AND IT'S A RECEIVER OF THE HEALTH CARE FOCUS VERSUS WHAT THE DOCTORS' INTEREST IS, PROVIDER FOCUS.

IT'S ABOUT OUR BUSINESS, OUR BUSINESS MODEL.

>> IMPORTANT ON THE MEDICAID, MEDICARE MODEL IS THE HOSPITALS.

IF, FOR EXAMPLE, THE GOVERNOR EXPANDED MEDICAID, THAT WAS A LIFELINE TO A LOT OF RURAL HOSPITALS AND VOTERS THAT RELY ON THOSE SERVICES.

>> RAMASWAMY EXPLAINED IT IN A WAY SAYING, MEDICAID, IT WAS A MISTAKE FOR A WORK REQUIREMENT.

AND MEDICARE, SENIORS AND RETIREES, HOW DO YOU SEE THAT?

>> THERE WAS LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS HE RAISED ABOUT MEDICAID AND IF YOU ARE AN ABLE- BODIED PURPOSE THERE SHOULD BE A WORK REQUIREMENT TIED IN.

AND IT'S NOT LIKE YOU NEED TO HAVE A 40-HOUR A WEEK JOB.

SO IT DOESN'T IMPACT, AND IT'S THE MOTHERS THAT WORK OUTSIDE OF THE HOME AND THOSE WHO ARE DISABLED AND OLDER, AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE ISSUES.

IT'S VERY COSTLY AND WILL HAVE TO DO SOME FIXES AND IMPROVEMENTS TO PROTECT THE RURAL HOSPITALS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT GET THE CARE.

>> THE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR EXPANDED THAT, BY THE WAY W HELP FROM DEMOCRATS LIKE ME.

>> LET'S GET TO THE NEXT ONE.

MANY OF US RECEIVED OUR APPLICATIONS FOR MAIL-IN BALLOTS FOR THIS YEAR'S ELECTION.

AS IT TURNS OUT, OHIO VOTERS CAN RETURN THEM AND VOTE BY MAIL JUST AS THEY HAVE FOR THE PAST SEVERAL CYCLES.

THE U. S. SUPREME COURT THIS WEEK PUT AN END TO PRESIDENT TRUMP'S EFFORTS TO USE THE POST OFFICE TO POLICE MAIL-IN VOTING.

THE EXECUTIVE ORDER THREATENED TO CAUSE CHAOS IN STATES ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY.

THE MAN WHO OVERSEES OHIO'S ELECTION SAID HE IS NOT SURPRISED BY THE RULING.

THE SECRETARY OF STATE FRANK DeROSE MAINTAINS THAT OHIO'S MAIL-IN SYSTEM IS AMONG THE MOST SECURE IN THE COUNTRY BUT WITH A GENTLE NOD TO PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID THERE ARE CONCERNS.

AND VOTE BY MAIL, IT'S THE SAME AS IT EVER WAS.

>> AND PEOPLE WHO VOTE BY MAIL ARE TRUCK DRIVERS AND BUSINESS TRAVEL AND VACATION WITH FAMILIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ET CETERA.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT OHIO'S SYSTEM WORKS WELL.

I KNOW FROM BEING ON THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS THAT OUR SYSTEM IS BY START SAN.

O .

OHIO DOESN'T SEND OUT UNSOLICITED BALLOTS.

AND PRESIDENTS CAN'T MAKE EXECUTIVE ORDERS TO CHANGE THINGS.

IT'S ONLY THE STATE LEGISLATURE IN EACH STATE OR CONGRESS, NOT PRESIDENTS AND EXECUTIVES ORDERS SO THIS DECISION WAS NO SURPRISE AND AGAIN, BUSINESS AS USUAL IN OHIO.

>> WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO ALL OF THIS STUFF AND ALL THE COURT RULINGS.

ANY CONFUSION OUT THERE AMONG THE AVERAGE VOTER WHO HAS TO VOTE BY THE KITCHEN TABLE BY MAIL?

>> I HAVE TO DISAGREE.

I HAD NO CLUE WHAT THE SUPREME COURT WAS GOING TO DO AND NOW EVERY AMERICAN HAS TO BECOME AN APPELLATE ATTORNEY AND MAKE SENSE WHAT EXACTLY DOES IT MEAN WHEN THE SUPREME COURT UPHELD THE ORDER OF THE LOWER--- >> IT'S A 7-2 DISTINCTION AND I'M NOT A LAWYER AND IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE DECISION I CITED.

7-2 IS NOT A SURPRISE AT ALL.

>> FOLKS SAID THERE WERE MORE REPUBLICANS THAT VOTE BY MAIL IN OHIO THAN DEMOCRATS.

HAD THIS GONE THROUGH BECAUSE IT HADN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS -- >> IT COULD HAVE HAD AN AFFECT ON THE REPUBLICANS, AND TERRY'S COHORTS, PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO VOTE FROM HOME BUT I STEP BACK A LITTLE BIT AND LOOK AT THIS DECISION.

AND IT CONCERNS ME THAT IT MADE IT THIS FAR.

I THINK THE CHILLING EFFECT HERE IS DONALD TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS IN POWER WANT TO TRY TO UNDERMINE ELECTION AND FEDERALIZE ELECTIONS AND I WILL SAY REPUBLICANS HAVE TRADITIONALLY BEEN THE PARTY OF STATES RIGHTS.

THEY HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HAVE STATE- RUN ELECTIONS.

WE'RE COMING DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO AN EFFORT TO HAND OVER ELECTIONS TO THE POST OFFICE AND EVEN ONE OF THE JUSTICES, KAVANAUGH, SAID HAD WE NOT BEEN THIS CLOSE TO THE ELECTION THIS POLICY WOULD HAVE BEEN ACCEPTABLE.

AND I AM NOT SURE THAT THEY ARE NOT TRYING TO OVERTAKE AND FEDERALIZE THE ELECTION AND I AM CONCERNED THAT'S THE DESIGN BY THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES, THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE VALID ID ITY OF THE ELECTION HE THINKS HE WILL LOSE.

>> TO BE CLEAR, GET THE BALLOT AND FILL IT OUT AND MAIL IT BACK AND YOU'RE DONE.

>> AND THE DEMOCRATS DON'T WANT TO FEDERALIZE THE ELECTIONS BUT I THINK FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION, THE STATE LEGISLATURES AND THOSE WHO SETTLE THE MEANS FOR THE ELECTION, THAT'S THE WHY IT SHOULD BE.

>> A. I. CAN TAKE CARE IT.

AND ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE DOING US IN IS THE HOT TOPIC OF THE WEEK.

ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SYSTEMS COULD CAUSE THE END OF HUMANITY AS SOON AS 10 YEARS FROM NOW.

MANY WANT GOVERNMENT TO STEP IN AND REGULATE THE INDUSTRY.

OTHERS, INCLUDING PRESIDENT TRUMP, DON'T BELIEVE THE WARNINGS.

THEY SAY REGULATIONS WOULD PUT THE UNITED STATES BEHIND OTHER COUNTRIES INCLUDING CHINA WHEN IT COMES TO A. I. AND REGULATION.

GOVERNOR DeWINE SAID ANY REGULATION HAS TO COME FROM THE FEDS, NOT FROM THE STATES.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS DOOMSDAY TALK AND A. I. ?

DO YOU BELIEVE IT, TAKE IT LIKE AN ASTERIOD COMING KIND OF THREAT?

>> THE FACT THAT I KNOW WHAT PDO MEANS, PROBABILITY OF DOOM.

I COULD SAY THREE INTERESTING THINGS.

FOR ONE, I DON'T SEE HOW THE STATES HAVE TRIED BUT IF THE STATE OF OHIO WERE TO PASS REGULATION X WOULD BE THERE AN OHIO A. I. COMPANY WITH DATE CENTERS?

IT DOESN'T SEEM QUITE WORKABLE.

I WAS THERE WHEN GOVERNOR DeWINE TALKED.

HE SAID WE SHOULD REGULATE THIS INTERNATIONALLY.

AND I DON'T KNOW EVEN HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

I THINK THAT GOES TO SHOW YOU THE SCALE THAT PEOPLE ARE APPROACHING THIS WITH AND I WILL ADD THAT JOHN HUSTAD GOT A BILL PASSED THROUGH THE SENATE I BELIEVE.

I WON'T GET BOGGED DOWN BUT THE SENATOR'S IDEA WHICH WAS STALLED BY DEMOCRATS IS BASICALLY STATE PUBLIC UTILITY COMMISSIONS WITHIN ONE YEAR THEY MUST COMMENCE DELIBERATIONS AND WITHIN TWO YEARS THEY MUST WRAP UP THEIR DELIBERATIONS ABOUT HOW TO NOT PASS ELECTRIC COSTS ON TO RATEPAYERS.

>> THE DATA CENTERS?

>> YEAH, THE BACKBONE OF A. I.

>> WE REGULATE A LOT OF INDUSTRIES, RAILROADS, THE AIRLINES, STOCK MARKETS.

YOU CAN REGULATE COMPUTER INNOVATION?

>> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS TODAY LET ALONE A YEAR FROM NOW AND IT'S HARD TO REGULATE WHAT IS A MOVING TARGET.

I AM OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THERE WAS A THING CALLED Y 2 K IN 1999 WHEN THE WORLD WAS GOING TO COME TO AN END.

WAS THERE PERPETUAL PROBLEMS WITH THIS?

YES AND MY SON IS IN THE TECHNOLOGY BUSINESS AND IF YOU ARE IN A WATER SYSTEM THAT IS RURAL OR AT HOME WITH A 12-YEAR- OLD COMPUTER THAT WAS NOT UPDATED WITH SAFEGUARDS THERE ARE RISKS BUT THERE IS A WAY TO MITIGATE THOSE AND THE WORLD IS NOT GOING TO AN END IN OR FOUR YEARS BUT WE NEED MORE GUARDRAILS AND HOW MUCH CAN YOU DO NATIONALLY VERSUS INTERNATIONALLY?

BECAUSE CHINA AND YOU HAVE THE A. I. PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SET UP ANTI- TRUST EXEMPTIONS AND ALSO BE ABLE TO STIFLE COMPETITION SO LOTS OF ISSUES.

>> I MEAN, CALIFORNIA THEY REGULATE THE AUTO INDUSTRY FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY BECAUSE THEY SET THE STANDARDS FOR THEIR CARS.

THERE ARE SO MANY CARS SOLD IN CALIFORNIA.

CALIFORNIA SAID IF WE SELL CARS HERE WE HAVE TO DO BETTER ON POLLUTION.

>> THERE ARE EFFORTS IN CONGRESS TO REGULATE A. I. WHEN IT COMES TO CHILD SAFETY.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING TWO YEARS AGO THERE WAS A BIPARTISAN COMMISSION WORK GROUP THAT WAS WORKING ON THIS BUT IT DOES TAKE PRESIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP, AND THE PRESIDENT IS I THINK COMPROMISED ON THIS ISSUE; RIGHT?

THIS IS WHERE THE CORRUPTION COMES INTO PLAY WHERE HE --HE AND HIS FAMILY ARE MAKING BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AROUND THIS, WHETHER TRADING STOCKS OR THE CRYPTOCURRENCY SCHEMES.

FOR HIM TO CALL IT RAY HOAX AND SOMEHOW DISMISS THE NEED FOR REGULATION, EVEN THE CORPORATIONS AND THE SUCCESSFUL COMPANIES OF THE LABS ARE COMING OUT SAYING WE NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF GUARDRAILS.

NOW THEIR MOTIVATION MAY BE THEY WANT TO LEAD THE EFFORT TO GET RID OF COMPETITION BUT THE STATES CAN DO THINGS AROUND -- WE SAW THAT IN OHIO --AROUND THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

THEY HAD A DATA CENTER BILL THAT WAS MOVING IN OHIO.

IT WAS STALLED OUT BUT STATES CAN HAVE THE ABILITY TO REGULATE SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED TO THIS.

>> TECHNOLOGY IS A BIG ISSUE IN THIS ELECTION.

IT'S NOT JUST THE ECONOMY AND INFLATION.

IT'S TECHNOLOGY, TOO.

>> JUST THE FEAR FACTOR, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE SOUNDS SOMETHING DIRE AND SINSTER AND IT COULD BE.

AND PART OF IT IS OVER BLOWN HYPE AND PART OF THE ARTICLE THAT YOU SENT US, THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF CONSENSUS.

BEFORE YOU FIX THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM?

>> ASK A. I. NEARING THE END OF HER SEVENTH TERM IN CONGRESS, SHE CHAIRED THE NATIONAL BLACK CAUCUS FOR YEARS AND SHE IS GETTING ATTENTION FOR LEADING THE FIGHT AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR CONTROL OF THE KENNEDY CENTER FOR THE ARTS IN WASHINGTON AND SHE FILLED TO GET TRUMP'S NAME REMOVED FROM THE BUILDING AND HE IS RUNNING POINT FOR THE DATA CENTER.

>> THAT'S WHY WE ARE USING THE LAW THAT IS ON OUR SIDE BECAUSE ALL THIS IS UNLAWFUL SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS PRESIDENT IS SO UNPREDICTABLE AND HE WILL DO ANYTHING TO GET ATTENTION.

HE LOST IN COURT.

>> THIS IS A LOT OF ATTENTION IN THIS FIGHT IS.

THIS A FIGHT HER CONSTITUENTS WANT HER FIGHTING?

>> I AM ONE OF HER CONSTITUENTS AND I SAID THANK YOU.

AND THIS IS NOT JUST WITH THE KENNEDY CENTER BUT SOMEBODY LIKE DONALD TRUMP WHO BEHAVES LIKE A KING, AN AUTOCRAT AND PUTS HIS NAME ON THINGS AND IN ORDER TO GET A $5,000 REBATE CHECK YOU HAVE TO RE-ELECT MY PEOPLE, MY CRONIES.

SO I'M PROUD OF HER.

I THINK IT'S STANDING UP TO A PRESIDENT WHO IS OFTENTIMES LAWLESS.

>> WHAT DO THE INDEPENDENTS AND MORE MODERATE FOLKS IN HER DISTRICT FEEL?

>> I AM NOT SURE ANYBODY IN CENTRAL OHIO ARE THAT WORRIED ON THE DAY-TO-DAY WORRIES OF THE KENNEDY CENTER AND THERE ARE EGOS AND POWER THAT IS INVOLVED.

IT WAS NICE THAT IT WAS BUILT BACK IN LYNDEN JOHNSON'S DAYS IN THE 1960sAND IT NEEDS SOME FIXING AND IT NEEDS A BIPARTISAN SOLUTION.

YOU HAVE EGOS ON BOTH SIDES.

WHEN YOU NEED A SOLUTION THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO SOLVE IT.

>> THIS IS NOT A VERY SAFE DISTRICT.

I MEAN YOU GET A LOT OF ON THIS DISTRICT.

>> IT'S A GENEROUS INTERPRETATION.

IF SOMEONE PICKS UP THE SLACK, IT'S A SAFE DISTRICT BUT I'VE NEVER BEEN TO THE KENNEDY CENTER.

IT'S HARD TO -- >> SHE'S ON THE BOARD, A CONGRESSIONAL MEMBER ON THE BOARD OR ONE OF THE CONGRESSIONAL MEMBERS ON THE BOARD.

>> IT'S A NICE BUILDING BUT IT NEEDS FIXING.

>> BUT IT'S ABOUT THE LAW.

SHE IS SAYING THAT THE PRESIDENT IS NOT ABOVE THE LAW.

>> OKAY.

THE FINAL COMMENTS.

>> AS I LOOKED OUT TOWARDS THE MIDTERMS AND TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR I DO THINK THE PRESIDENT WILL BE LOOKING FOR A FALL GUY SEE TO SPEAK AND I SEE HEGSETH OR PATEL ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK NEXT AND THAT WAR CONTINUES.

>> NEXT?

>> THIS WEEK THERE WAS A BIG STORY ON HOW OHIO STATE HAD THE BIGGEST SALARIES IN FOOTBALL INCLUDING THE COACHING STAFF THAT WAS WELL PAID AND HOPEFULLY, THINGS WILL IMPROVE AND THEY WILL BEAT KENT STATE.

>> DR.

AMY ACTON WAS THERE TAKING ON AN ISSUE THAT THE CRITICS WOULD CALL ANTI-OIL AND GAS AND THAT WAS NOT A POLITICAL COMBINATION BETWEEN PEOPLE AND PLACES EVERYDAY.

>> AND TEXAS HAS THE SECOND BIGGEST PAYROLL IN FOOTBALL.

>> COACHES ARE HIGHER PAID.

>> ANYWAY, MY FINAL THOUGHT IS BOWLING GREEN SHOWS THAT 25% OF THE LIKELY VOTERS SURVEYED SAID THAT BROWN IS STILL THE INCUMBENT IN THE U. S. SENATE FOR OHIO NOT KNOWING THAT HUSTAD IS THE INCUMBENT.

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