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Yankee Doodle, Prince Gallitzin & a radio hero
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Yankee Doodle, Prince Gallitzin & a radio hero
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipANNOUNCER: Prince Gallitzin State Park in Cambria County is one of the most beautiful of Pennsylvania's many parks.
Here, there's room to relax, to hike and camp.
There's also a lot of history here, starting with the name of the park.
Do you know who Prince Gallitzin was?
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Now let's get the game started.
Here's the host of the Pennsylvania Game, Lynn Hinds.
[applause] Thank you, thank you.
Thank you, thank you.
We have got a dynamite show.
We got a studio audience and folks who have driven over from Lewistown.
We appreciate that.
And we've got a good panel.
And we hope you're ready to play along with them.
He's back in the first seat again, ready to play, Bernie Asbell.
[applause] Originally from Harrisburg and then Lock Haven and now Penn State, let's welcome Terrell Jones.
[applause] And she does a lot of things.
She's a radio announcer, she's a basketball announcer, and she works as a science writer at Penn State.
She is Tina Hay.
[applause] We were talking with Dr. Maurice Goddard, who started so many state parks.
And he was talking about one of them that he had started was Prince Gallitzin State Park.
He's not on the panel, though, so he can't help the folks.
Who was Prince Gallitzin that this park started?
ANNOUNCER: Prince Gallitzin State Park in Cambria County is one of Pennsylvania's many recreational areas that offers lakeside camping and swimming.
Visitors can fish or just enjoy the wildlife and natural beauty of the outdoors.
There's a rich history in this area also, including the person for whom the park was named.
Was Prince Gallitzin, A, a Revolutionary War hero; B, the first Catholic priest ordained in America; C, owner of the first iron furnace in Pennsylvania; or D, the first Russian immigrant in Pennsylvania?
OK, and Ida Krug sent this in.
Ida Krug will be getting from us here at WPSX and from Pennsylvania Magazine Publishers, a year's subscription to that very fine Pennsylvania Magazine for sending this in.
Ida Krug, thank you very, very much.
And Bernie Asbell, who was Prince Gallitzin?
Revolutionary War hero, first Catholic priest ordained in America, the founder of the American conservation movement, or the first Russian immigrant in PA?
Go ahead.
Ida, you and I have gotten off to a very bad start.
I think I like-- no, I don't.
Yeah, I'll bet he was the first Catholic priest.
In fact, I know that he was the first Catholic priest ordained.
You know that very lightly.
BERNIE ASBELL: Oh, yes.
You've only known that for about 10 seconds.
But you do know that.
I know, it was whispered to me.
Thank you, Ida.
LYNN HINDS: Terrell, what do you think?
Whoever you are.
I'm trying to figure out when Bernie's lying, so I'm going to go C. LYNN HINDS: Most of the time, what I've discovered.
OK, you go with the founder of the American conservation movement.
Tina.
TINA HAYS: Oh, boy.
LYNN HINDS: Prince Gallitzin.
TINA HAYS: Oh, ba-dum, ba-dum, ba-dum.
I really have no clue, which is common.
You know, this is pretty obvious, but maybe he was in the war.
Maybe not.
I don't know.
LYNN HINDS: Well, a lot of people were.
And there were, of course, a number of people from Europe who did help the colony.
Who was Prince Gallitzin?
ANNOUNCER: The answer is B, the first Catholic priest ordained in America.
[applause] Demetrius Augustine Gallitzin was born into Russian nobility, but gave up the dazzling life of the tsarist court to devote his life to the Catholic Church in America.
Trained at St. Mary's Seminary in Baltimore, he was ordained by Bishop John Carroll in 1795.
Prince Gallitzin served as a missionary on the Pennsylvania frontier for 41 years.
He founded the community of Loretto and served there until his death in 1840.
The site of his mission became the summer home of steel magnate Charles Schwab, who left the land to the Catholic Church, which maintains a monastery on the property.
Quite a story of a man who was of Russian nobility and abandoned all that to serve on what really was a hard, hard life on the frontier of Pennsylvania in those times.
BERNIE ASBELL: You don't know what it was like in Russia in those days.
Well, if you were a nobility, it was not so bad back in those days.
BERNIE ASBELL: That's true.
But here on the frontier for 41 years, he served, and quite a history of that man.
Let's go to Germantown, which is a part of Philadelphia, really, for a man named Walt Gibson, who invented someone, he did.
ANNOUNCER: Born in Germantown, Walter Gibson wrote for Philadelphia newspapers, but he was a young freelance writer in 1931 when he created a character who would become a radio staple from 1936 until 1954.
Did Walter Gibson create, A, the Green Hornet; B, the Great Gildersleeve; C, Superman; or D, the Shadow?
LYNN HINDS: OK, Walter Gibson, 1931, was a freelance writer when he created a character who was a radio staple from 1936 to '54.
And I used to run home after work to listen to some of these shows.
They were great shows.
Criminals will feel the sting of the Green Hornet.
And the Great Gildersleeve [laugh] with a great laugh, and Superman-- it's a bird, it's a plane.
And of course, the Shadow, everybody knows it.
Terrell Jones, which one did Walter Gibson of Pennsylvania create?
I'm not sure, but I resent Tina's statement that I'm going to get it because I'm old.
TINA HAYS: I didn't say that.
[laughter] I don't think-- LYNN HINDS: Why are you going to get it?
I have no idea, but-- TINA HAYS: Oh, good.
--I always liked the Shadow.
LYNN HINDS: The Shadow knows.
Yes, Tina Hays.
If he had created Superman, I think we'd know his name, don't you think?
LYNN HINDS: Who did create Superman?
Well, I don't know his name, but.
LYNN HINDS: See?
See?
TINA HAYS: Let's go with-- oh, heck, what did you say?
I don't think you know.
The Green Hornet.
LYNN HINDS: You're going with-- For no particular reason.
Yes, Britt Reid, better known as the Green Hornet.
BERNIE ASBELL: They're probably all around the 36.
That was the great heyday of radio.
The question is, who lasted till 51?
LYNN HINDS: 54.
54.
LYNN HINDS: 54, yeah.
54.
The Great Gildersleeve was a radio character.
He was a radio character.
He was indeed.
OK.
These were all great radio shows and great characters, but which one did Gibson create?
ANNOUNCER: The answer is D, the Shadow.
For two decades, radio listeners faithfully followed the adventures of the Shadow, Walter Gibson's fictional avenger of crime.
TINA HAYS: That's great.
Who knows what character Walter Gibson created?
Terrell Jones knows.
That's great, Terrell.
Good guess.
Was that all a guess, or was it a half guess?
He knew.
Great.
The Shadow did last for a long time.
Orson Welles used to play the Shadow back on radio in those days.
Terrell Jones, I said you were born in Harrisburg and in Dauphin County, and you moved up to Lock Haven, which is in Clinton County, I think?
What were you doing up in Lock Haven?
Well, going to school, and I did my undergraduate work there.
And I worked there for a few years and been here for about 12 years.
LYNN HINDS: You've been at Penn State for 12 years.
You are now assistant to the provost, is that-- Yeah, special assistant.
LYNN HINDS: Special assistant.
Yeah.
LYNN HINDS: Is that like Special Agent of the FBI?
Special, yeah.
What does that special assistant mean?
I'm not sure, but-- It means they make up-- I change the title every-- I see.
I thought maybe anything that nobody else wanted to do, they said-- Pretty much.
LYNN HINDS: --hey, let's put our special assistant on this one.
We're delighted to have you here-- TERRELL JONES: Thank you.
--Terrell.
And Tina Hay, delighted to have you back again, too.
Thank you.
LYNN HINDS: We talked about your book before that you've written.
Let's talk about your radio show a little bit.
Oh, let's.
LYNN HINDS: You do hillbilly music, is it, Tina?
Yeah.
I'm coordinator of the folk show on-- LYNN HINDS: Folk show.
--WPSU radio, the Penn State Public Radio station.
And just the other day, a listener called and said, what was that hillbilly song you just played?
I didn't know whether to be offended or what.
What's the difference between hillbilly and folk?
Folk is when I'm listening to it.
LYNN HINDS: I see.
And I guess hillbilly is when the non-folkies listen to it.
LYNN HINDS: I thought maybe the price of the album had something to do with it.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
One of the joys of living in State College is listening to the folk show on WPSU.
Oh, that's nice of you.
Because on weekends, you get lots of really good folk singing.
You're an old folk singer from way back-- BERNIE ASBELL: Yeah.
--Bernie.
That looks great, isn't it?
I always listen when I can.
I want you to listen.
Speaking of music, do you know what was the great song of the American Revolution?
It was almost the national anthem of the revolution, a song called "Yankee Doodle Dandy."
Listen carefully.
ANNOUNCER: The song that became the rallying cry of the American Revolution was "Yankee Doodle."
At first, it was sung by British soldiers who were scornful of the unmilitary appearance of untrained colonials.
But American troops made it their own.
In the familiar verse, the Yankee Doodle went to town riding on a pony, stuck a feather in his cap and called it macaroni.
Does macaroni refer to A, the pony; B, pasta; C, a gentleman's club; or D, an Indian chief?
LYNN HINDS: And maybe you've always wondered that.
Yankee Doodle went to town riding on a pony.
Stuck a feather in his cap and called it macaroni.
But what does macaroni refer to?
Speaking of folk music, Tina, hey, there you are, a folk expert.
Yeah, you can't get much more traditional than that song.
LYNN HINDS: That's right.
Hmm.
LYNN HINDS: What is macaroni in that song?
So that it might be the name of his pony.
It might be pasta.
Well, it's obviously pasta, so that would be right, wouldn't it?
LYNN HINDS: Well, in this song, what does it refer to, is the answer.
Gentlemen's club.
I have no idea what C is all about, so that makes it intriguing enough to pick.
OK, she picks C. Bernie?
Well, I'll guess, under the circumstances, it was probably a corruption of the name of an Indian chief.
Uh-huh, whose name was really not macaroni, but-- Something like it.
Maraconi or something.
The nearest those Britishers could get to it.
LYNN HINDS: Yes, all right.
Terrell?
Gentleman's club and an Indian chief.
What do you think?
TERRELL JONES: I'm going to go with A. LYNN HINDS: You think it was the pony.
TERRELL JONES: Yeah.
LYNN HINDS: Get up, Macaroni!
OK.
Stuck a feather in his cap and called it macaroni.
What was he referring to, macaroni?
ANNOUNCER: The answer is C, a gentleman's club.
The macaroni of Philadelphia were the well-dressed dandies who sported the latest in men's fashions.
So Yankee Doodle stuck a feather in his cap and called it well-dressed macaroni.
If you belong to the macaroni club, you were considered to be a dandy and well-dressed, so he called it with just a feather.
Look, I'm well-dressed.
I'm macaroni.
Interesting.
Isn't that interesting?
TINA HAYS: Yeah.
Use that on a folk show.
OK. Oh, the mystery Pennsylvanian!
They'll never get this one, I'll bet.
Here we go.
Born in Allegheny, Pennsylvania, in 1874-- Allegheny is now the north side of Pittsburgh, but before, about 1909, something like that, when it was incorporated, it was a separate Allegheny city and quite a town.
She was born in Allegheny in 1874.
Did I say "she"?
Oh, my.
Moved to Paris when 19, and there, she found fame.
She moved to Paris when she was 19, and there, she found fame.
Born in 1874.
So you got the right area.
Be patient.
There will be more clues, three clues, to our mystery Pennsylvanian as we go along.
And our panel will think and you'll see smoke coming out of their ears, and maybe one of them will get this one.
Who knows?
Oh, let's go down to Lancaster.
We haven't been to Lancaster for a while for a product made there.
ANNOUNCER: On the third floor of a small building in Lancaster, John Herr founded a company in 1907 that is still in business.
Does Herr Manufacturing make A, luggage; B, potato chips; C, mattresses; or D, toys?
John Herr, 1907, it's still in business.
What does that company that John Herr founded make?
Herr's potato chips, French's mustard, Serta mattress, or London Fog?
Now London Fog is a type of clothing.
It's not fog that they import or export to London, you understand.
Bernie, it's your turn to start on this one.
It is.
LYNN HINDS: Yeah, mm-hmm.
Oh.
Yes?
BERNIE ASBELL: I say-- wordlessly, I say B. LYNN HINDS: French's mustard.
Yeah.
LYNN HINDS: No reason for that.
See, that's when Bernie's most dangerous, when he doesn't give a reason.
It means either he knows the reason-- I don't even know-- LYNN HINDS: --or he can't even come up with the logic-- I don't even know if anything like potato chips existed then.
LYNN HINDS: Uh-huh.
Maybe they did.
Probably.
Terrell?
What did John Herr start?
Still in business today.
My wife lived in Lancaster for a while, and my son was born there.
And-- LYNN HINDS: They both like potato chips.
I think we even ate some of those.
I'm not sure.
Uh-huh.
Well, you're both going with mustard, right?
No, potato chips.
Potato chips.
There's not even mustard in this question.
Well, you're-- huh?
I don't know where you're-- Oh!
We have a little-- oh, is it different on the-- it's saying luggage?
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I don't have the-- I get different ones here, OK. You're going with-- OK, you're going with potato chips.
OK, I'm with you now.
Go ahead.
OK. Well, if Bernie picked B and Terrell picked B, why in the world would I pick anything else?
It would just be C. LYNN HINDS: Because you weren't going to stand on your own two feet, be independent, and get it correct.
I don't know.
[laughs] No, sure.
You're going with B, too.
Everybody says-- everybody says potato chips.
And that's not on your card.
Well, it's on my card, but it's not what's it's.
ANNOUNCER: The answer is C, mattresses.
John Herr started with three employees who worked 59 hours a week stuffing mattresses with a variety of materials.
In the 1920s, the development of the inner spring mattresses brought a number of changes to the company.
They merged with Serta to form Serta Lancaster, a division of Herr Manufacturing.
Today, the company turns out 78,000 mattresses each year.
Yeah, when they started back in 1907, you had to be able to shuck corn to make mattresses because they used corn shucks and everything in the world.
I realized that had to be the answer because my mother always told me, she recommended his and her mattresses.
LYNN HINDS: Is that right?
These were "Herr" mattresses.
TINA HAYS: I don't think that's what she was referring to.
LYNN HINDS: Probably not.
Let's go back to the 1880s for our next question, when Tom Foster got an idea and started a business.
ANNOUNCER: In the 1800s, Thomas Foster of Scranton got an idea from the new laws that Pennsylvania was enacting to regulate the mining industry.
He started a business that would become successful up through World War II.
What business did Thomas Foster start?
Was it A, a correspondence school; B, a professional lobby; C, a trade journal; or D, an industrial design firm?
Yeah, Terrell Jones, Pennsylvania was enacting laws to regulate the mining industry.
So Tom Foster said, hey, I will start a correspondence school, a professional lobby, a trade journal, or an industrial design firm.
Which do you think he started?
I have no idea.
LYNN HINDS: That's why you're poor today.
You can't get those ideas.
See?
I have no idea.
LYNN HINDS: Tom Foster got the idea.
What do you think?
There's a logic here.
There is.
TINA HAYS: There is, OK. LYNN HINDS: Well, of course.
Yeah, let's try logic.
Give me B. LYNN HINDS: Professional lobby, OK. Yeah, we don't just give you just-- I mean, there's a logic to this.
So there's a reason for each of these answers.
LYNN HINDS: No, there's a reason that he picked the idea that he did, based on what we told you about laws and to regulate the mining industry.
Don't you see?
So lobby would make sense.
LYNN HINDS: Uh-huh.
Correspondence school to keep up with the changes, a trade journal.
Hmm.
LYNN HINDS: Or industrial design firm to come up with new ideas for the-- Are you' suggesting I should pick D?
No, I'm not suggesting any of the four.
I think a lobby makes some sense.
LYNN HINDS: OK, we have two lobbies.
TINA HAYS: You know what makes more sense?
No.
TINA HAYS: A trade journal.
LYNN HINDS: OK, well, let's go with a trade journal.
All right, we have a lobby and a trade journal.
Bernie?
So now I'm in the position of having to choose between those two, right?
LYNN HINDS: No.
Yes, it's one of those two.
LYNN HINDS: You think it is?
Yeah, lobby is so compelling.
LYNN HINDS: Is it?
I thought I'll take it.
LYNN HINDS: Into the lobby goes Bernie Asbell.
Where there's regulation, there's a lobby.
Where there's a trade journal lying there on the table.
What's the answer here?
ANNOUNCER: The answer is A, a correspondence school.
[applause] Thomas Foster set up a school by mail to help mining foremen pass the newly required written test.
By 1901, the school was so successful that Foster merged with his publisher to form the International Correspondence School, with courses that covered a wide variety of subjects.
Sure, correspondence school.
Why not?
We're time for mystery clue number 2 to our mystery Pennsylvanian.
She wrote two autobiographies.
The first had her friend's name in the title, and the second was about all of us.
She wrote two autobiographies.
The first had her friend's name in the title.
The second was about all of us.
Clue number one, she was born in Allegheny, Pennsylvania, 1874.
Moved to Paris at age 19.
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Send it to our address, Pennsylvania Game, Wagner Annex, University Park, PA, 16802.
Think about that.
It'll come to you, the mystery Pennsylvanian.
This next question is one of my favorites, and this is kind of an amazing fact.
ANNOUNCER: Connellsville, Fayette County, was the birthplace in 1869 of a man who was to be influential in developing American films.
He produced a film in 1903 that was a milestone of screen history, setting the direction and tone of a screen genre for years to come.
Was that film A, The Great Train Robbery; B, The Birth of a Nation; C, Intolerance; or D, Broken Blossoms?
OK, Tina, you're first on this.
The man was born in Connellsville in 1869.
Connellsville is a wonderful little town in Fayette County.
If you come up from Uniontown to Greensburg, you go through Connellsville.
And he produced a film in 1903 that was really a milestone.
It set the tone for this genre of film for a long time to come.
What was the film that this famous Connellsville native produced?
Why didn't I pay attention in class?
LYNN HINDS: I don't know.
When we had film class.
I'm remembering that The Great Train Robbery had some claim to fame.
But I'm not remembering what that claim to fame was.
So just-- LYNN HINDS: You're going with The Great Train Robbery.
--some back part of my brain, that's coming out.
LYNN HINDS: How deep do we have to go into your brain for this one, Bernie?
Well, The Birth of a Nation, of course, had the powerful impact, but it's The Great Train Robbery, I believe, that had the influence on film itself.
Uh-huh, OK. Terrell?
They both think it was The Great Train Robbery.
1903.
I'm going to go with C. LYNN HINDS: You're going with Intolerance, OK.
Does anybody know the name of the man that did The Great Robbery?
Griffith?
Griffith did The Birth of a Nation, but who did the great-- I don't know.
What's the answer here?
ANNOUNCER: The answer is A, The Great Train Robbery.
The man, of course, was Edward S. Porter, a pioneer of American films.
The other films were by DW Griffith, who got his first film job from Porter.
Porter did numerous other films after his 12-minute-long Western, The Great Train Robbery.
He lost his fortune in the stock market crash of 1929 and died in 1941 in obscurity.
Obscurity was in California, huh?
In Pennsylvania.
The tragedy is Porter hired DW Griffith to do his first film, and the other three films were all by Griffith.
But both men really died in obscurity and really kind of poor.
It's kind of-- because these two were the most influential in the world.
Well, let's go to another question quickly.
James Buchanan, of course Pennsylvania's only president, we know that, but-- ANNOUNCER: Although James Buchanan is Pennsylvania's only president, the state has inspired many presidential visits, including one to Gray Towers in Milford, where the visiting president outlined his administration's proposed conservation policies.
Was this president A, Theodore Roosevelt; B, Woodrow Wilson; C, Franklin Roosevelt; or D, John Kennedy?
One president named Eisenhower even made a Gettysburg address his home, but which one came to Milford, Gray Towers in Milford, to outline his conservation policies?
I don't know how you'd know this, Bernie, so take a quick guess.
We need to move.
Well, you expect me to say Franklin Roosevelt, but I'm not going to.
I'm going to say Theodore.
LYNN HINDS: OK, Theodore Roosevelt.
Teddy Roosevelt.
Terrell?
I'm going to go with Theodore Roosevelt.
LYNN HINDS: OK, you're both going with Teddy Roosevelt.
Tina?
I'm not going to fall into that trap this time.
Woodrow Wilson, just for fun.
Really?
I thought somebody would pick FDR or John Kennedy.
I'm kind of amazed by those answers.
What's the right answer?
ANNOUNCER: The answer is D, John Kennedy.
President Kennedy visited Gray Towers to dedicate Gifford Pinchot's former home as the site of the Pinchot Institute of Conservation Studies.
He used the occasion to announce a bold new conservation policy, a policy that was never carried out due to the tragic assassination in Dallas two months later.
Where would you go but to the home of Gifford Pinchot in Pennsylvania to announce a conservation policy?
Because he was such a great conservationist.
I love this next question.
It's one of my all-time favorites.
And I think you'll like it, too.
Give a listen, lend an ear.
ANNOUNCER: In 1949, radio station WPWA in Chester had a popular disk jockey nicknamed the Rambling Yodeler, who led a band called the Four Aces of Country Swing.
Six years later, the DJ dropped his country image and recorded a number one hit tune.
Was that song A, "Volare"; B, "Cry"; C, "Rock Around the Clock"; or D, "Teen Angel"?
OK, this country boy, country DJ, dropped the country image and recorded a number one hit tune.
Which one was it, Terrell Jones?
"Volare," "Cry," "Rock Around the Clock," or "Teen Angel"?
This is a shot.
LYNN HINDS: OK, here goes a shot.
This is just a flat shot.
LYNN HINDS: Here goes a shot.
Well, shoot.
[laughter] I don't even have any powder.
LYNN HINDS: We're going with-- we're going with-- I'll go with-- I like D. LYNN HINDS: "Teen Angel."
Tina?
They're all great songs.
I think the one that's closest to swing might be rockabilly, and then that would lead you to rock, which would lead you to "Rock Around the Clock."
I don't have a clue.
What a great chain of logic there.
Bernie?
My instincts tell me it's "Teen Angel," because I'm sure it's not the other three.
TERRELL JONES: I think it's "Teen Angel."
LYNN HINDS: We have two "Teen Angels" and we have one "Rock Around the Clock."
Who was that country DJ who had the country band back in Chester?
ANNOUNCER: The answer is C, "Rock Around the Clock."
Bill Haley never caught on as a country singer, but with his group, The Comets, he hit it big in rock and roll, recording a dozen top 40 hits.
"Rock Around the Clock" was his most popular song.
It was featured in the soundtrack of the controversial film, Blackboard Jungle.
Though his career was brief, the man with the trademark spit curl was considered by many to be the father of rock and roll.
Didn't it blow your mind that Bill Haley was a country singer at one time?
Tina's ahead by one.
The mystery Pennsylvanian is going to decide it.
Let's hurry into it.
Number three, she had a strong impact on literature.
Her description of a rose will be long remembered.
TINA HAYS: Oh, oh.
She was born in Allegheny in 1874, moved to Paris at 19, wrote two autobiographies, and she had a strong impact on literature.
Her description of a rose will be long remembered.
Any guesses?
Tina?
Terrell?
TINA HAYS: No.
Nothing?
TERRELL JONES: No way.
Bernie's scribbling.
What do you have?
Virginia Woolf.
I can't believe it.
A rose is a rose is a rose, but is not necessarily a Virginia.
Who is it?
ANNOUNCER: Born in Allegheny in 1874, Gertrude Stein studied psychology with William James at Radcliffe and studied medicine at Johns Hopkins for four years.
But she quit short of a degree in both cases and went to live in Paris in 1903.
There, Gertrude Stein lived until her death in 1946.
She was a patron of such artists as Picasso and Matisse and writers such as Ernest Hemingway and F. Scott Fitzgerald.
Gertrude Stein had a strong impact on literature.
Her abstract style used the repetition of words and phrases, as in, "A rose is a rose is a rose."
Gertrude Stein wrote two autobiographies, The Autobiography of Alice B. Toklas, The Autobiography of Everybody.
Just before she died, she asked, what's the answer?
Getting no answer, she asked, then what's the question?
Gertrude Stein, a famous Pennsylvanian.
What a lady!
Yes!
[applause] Bernie contends it out that Gertrude Stein and Virginia Woolf were really the same person.
[laughs] Is that it, Bernie?
Who's afraid of Gertrude Stein?
Gertrude Stein, right.
A rose is a rose is a rose.
I always confuse those two names.
They're two nice ladies.
Tina-- They're so similar.
They're so similar.
Tina Hays came out on top by one point-- Just barely.
The last one-- --which means, Tina, you will never be invited back.
Aw, come on.
LYNN HINDS: Well, you won once before, and you were invited back.
Terrell Jones, we were delighted to have you with us.
Hope you had a good time.
We had a good time with you.
And we hope you all had a good time, and you will all join us again and send us your suggestions for questions and mystery Pennsylvanians and all like that.
And remember to be proud of the great state of Pennsylvania.
And remember to tune in same time next week, same station, to play once again the Pennsylvania Game.
We'll see you then.
Bye.
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