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STEVE: COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," NEW DATA THAT REVEALS SURPRISING NUMBERS SURROUNDING HOMELESSNESS AND QUESTIONS ABOUT ITS ACCURACY.

>>> SUICIDE RATES ARE DECLINING, HOW A HOSPITAL IS WORKING TO MAKE THE NUMBERS GO DOWN.

>>> A NEW MUSEUM CELEBRATES THE ARTWORK OF 36 ARTISTS OF JAPAN.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

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STEVE: GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M STEVE GOLDSTEIN FILLING IN FOR TED SIMONS.

EACH YEAR THE MARICOPA ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS GATHERS NUMBERS SURROUNDING HOMELESSNESS.

JOINING ME FOR MORE IS TANNER SWANSON, MARKETING DIRECTOR OF A NEW LEAF FOCUSED ON HELPING ARIZONANS OVERCOME CRISIS AND ACHIEVE LONG-TERM STABILITY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

STEVE: LET'S START ABOUT THE BEST THINGS OF HAVING A STUDY LIKE POINT OF TIME?

>> I PARTICIPATED IN THE COUNT MYSELF THIS YEAR.

THE POINT IN TIME COUNT IS ABOUT HITTING PAVEMENT, GOING OUT THERE AND TRYING TO MEET PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTIVELY EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, IT'S VERY HELPFUL.

IT'S A ONE-DAY ACTIVITY, THOUGH.

IT GIVES A GOOD SURVEY FOR THE TIME.

THE CONCERN WE'VE PUT OUT THERE IS A LOT OF COMMUNITY LEADERS TO LOOK AT THAT REPORT, AND THEY SAY WHAT IS THAT REPORT TELLING US?

9,000 SOME ODD PEOPLE EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS.

CAN'T BE THAT BAD, RIGHT?

AND TO US, WE SAY, LET'S LOOK AT IT IN CONTEXT, THE SNAPSHOT.

STEVE: EXACTLY.

ONE OF THOSE THINGS, IT'S SURPRISING TO HEAR YOU SAY SOMETHING THAT IS DONE FOR ONE NIGHT IS SOMETHING THAT THE POLICYMAKERS ARE SO FOCUSED ON.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE WAYS IT CAN IMPROVE IS IT JUST AS SIMPLE AS MAYBE DOING IT MORE OFTEN?

>> IT IS USEFUL AS A ONE-TIME ACTIVITY.

SO THE WHOLE NATION DOES THIS, AND MARICOPA ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENTS DOES A GREAT JOB OF COORDINATING WITH ALL THE MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS COUNTRY TO GET A GOOD AND ACCURATE COUNT, AND I THINK WE DO THAT, BUT WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE IS THERE'S A TON OF RESEARCH THAT SHOWS THAT YOU CAN AUGMENT THAT DATA AND PUT IT IN CONTEXT, SO FIRST IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE PUT IN A RECENT OP-ED, WE PUBLISHED ABOUT THIS, SCHOOLS ACROSS ARIZONA HAVE WAYS OF MEASURING WHETHER OR NOT THEIR STUDENTS ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, RIGHT?

AND THE ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION PUBLISHED THAT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS WERE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS LAST YEAR, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COUNT, THERE'S MAYBE A FEW THOUSAND THAT ARE LISTED AS CHILDREN, AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT TOO INTUITIVELY, YOU KNOW YOU'RE NOT OUT WITH CHILDREN LIVING ON THE STREET, RIGHT?

YOU'RE GOING TO BE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ANY SOLUTION TO STAY OUT OF SIGHT, KEEP YOUR KIDS AND TRY TO GET INTO AN APARTMENT.

PULLING THAT DATA FROM ARIZONA DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND OTHER PLACES TOO, TO AUGMENT THE DATA CAN BE HELPFUL.

STEVE: SO BUILD OFF OF THAT, WHAT ARE OTHER CONCERNS NOT AS ACCURATE AS IT POSSIBLY COULD BE?

DOES IT GIVE PEOPLE THE WRONG IMPRESSION POTENTIALLY THAT THE HOMELESSNESS PROBLEM IS NOT AS DRAMATIC AS MAYBE WE TEND TO CONTINUING ACTUALLY IS?

DOES IT GIVE PEOPLE AN IDEA -- I'M NOT SAYING THERE ISN'T PROGRESS BEING MADE, BUT IS MORE PROGRESS BEING MADE THAN ACTUALLY IS?

>> THE CRISIS IS THE ONES THAT KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF THE PIT COUNT.

GENERATIONS MOVING INTO APARTMENTS, 8, 9, 10 PEOPLE LIVING IN A TWO-BEDROOM HOME.

THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

PEOPLE LIVING IN CARDS AND POSTING UP FOR THE NIGHT IN A WALMART OR SOMETHING, AND THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE WE'RE NOT COUNTING.

THESE ARE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, RIGHT?

I DON'T THINK IT'S ANY EXAGGERATION, IF WE KNOW TENS OF THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS THAT MORE THAN THAT IN TERMS OF ADULTS ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THEIR STORY.

VERY USEFUL SNAPSHOT, BUT AGAIN, IT IS MEANT TO BE A SNAPSHOT.

STEVE: SO IF IT IS A SNAPSHOT AND NOT AS ACCURATE AS WE'D LIKE IT TO BE, HOW CAN THAT AFFECT PROGRAMS AND FUNDING BECAUSE, AGAIN, MAYBE THE EMPHASIS ISN'T THERE.

PEOPLE PAT THEMSELVES ON THE BACK TO SOME EXTENT AND SAY WHY DO YOU NEED AN EXTRA 50 MILLION TO BUILD NEW HOUSING OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE?

DOES THAT CAUSE A PROBLEM?

HAVE YOU SEEN IT CAUSE A PROBLEM SO FAR?

>> I THINK IT DOES TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.

EVERYONE INTERPRETS THE DATA DIFFERENTLY.

POLICYMAKERS HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS QUICKLY.

THEY GET THE BEST DATA THEY CAN AND TRY TO MAKE DECISIONS.

PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THIS FULL TIME.

IF YOU HAVE DEDICATED PEOPLE WORKING ON THE HOMELESSNESS FOR THE CITY OF PHOENIX OR MESA, THEY KNOW THE DATA IS INCOMPLETE AND WORK AROUND IT.

THE BROADER DISCUSSION, THE STATEWIDE DISCUSSION, THE REGIONAL DISCUSSION IN THE VALLEY CAN BE DICTATED BY THE LIMITED NUMBER, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE AT A NEW LEAF WANTED TO SPEAKING OUT ABOUT.

IT'S A BIGGER NUMBER THAN MOST PEOPLE THINK.

STEVE: ALSO THE FACT THAT POINT IN TIME IS A NATIONAL PROJECT, I PRESUME THAT MAKES IT HARDER TO MODIFY.

I COME BACK TO THE FIRST QUESTION WHICH IS IF THIS IS JUST A GOOD SNAPSHOT, WE KNOW WHAT SNAPSHOTS ARE, THEY'RE INCOMPLETE.

IS THERE WORK BEING DONE BEHIND THE SCENES BY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE YOURS, POINT IN TIME IS GREAT, LET'S NOT GET RID OF IT, IS THERE MOMENTUM TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT?

>> YEAH, THE NATIONAL COALITION AROUND HOMELESSNESS, HEALTH CARE FOR HOMELESSNESS, THERE'S A COUPLE THAT DO THIS WORK AND PUBLISH STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT THE AUGMENTED DATA THAT YOU CAN GET FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC SECURITY, PRISON SYSTEMS, YOU CAN PULL THIS DATA AND USE IT TO AUGMENT, AND IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT, AND IT REQUIRES A LITTLE MORE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE STATE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO.

THERE ARE STATES THAT HAVE DONE THAT, AND IT'S GIVEN THEM A MORE ACCURATE PREDICTION OF HOMELESSNESS AND IT'S ALLOWED THEM TO COMBAT THE CHALLENGE BETTER.

INVESTING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

HOMELESSNESS COURTS WHERE YOU ARE PREVENTING PEOPLE CYCLING INTO THE PRISON SYSTEM.

ALL THESE DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS BUT IT TAKES GOOD DATA.

STEVE: TANNER, THANKS FOR THE WORK.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

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STEVE: A NEW STUDY BY "THE JOURNAL OF THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION" REVEALS YOUTH SUICIDE IS GOING DOWN.

PHOENIX HOSPITALS WORK THROUGH THAT EVERY DAY THROUGH INTEGRATED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SERVICES, JOINING ME IS THE DIVISION CHIEF FOR CHILDREN PSYCHOLOGY.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

STEVE: WE SEE THE NUMBERS INDICATE YOUTH SUICIDE IS GOING DOWN BY 10%, THAT'S ENCOURAGING, WHAT ARE THE FACTORS LEADING TO THAT?

>> WHAT IS SO ENCOURAGING ABOUT THAT IS THAT'S A RELATION OF INCREASED ACCESS TO CARE BECAUSE OF THE INCREASED ACCESS TO 988, A CRISIS INTERVENTION PHONE LINE AND TEXT LINE THAT KIDS CAN CALL WHEN THEY'RE IN TROUBLE.

STEVE: I'M MOST INTRIGUED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THE ONE THING PHOENIX CHILDREN'S HAS THE UNIVERSAL SUICIDE SCREENING.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT GOES INTO THAT AND HOW UNIVERSAL MEANS EVERYBODY?

>> IT DOES.

UNIVERSAL MEANS EVERYBODY, AND THE GREAT THING IS NOT EVERYONE HAS EQUAL ACCESS TO GREAT QUALITY BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CARE.

SO WE BAKE IT INTO OUR MEDICAL VISITS AND UNIVERSALLY SCREEN KIDS ACROSS OUR ENTIRE HEALTH SYSTEM 10 AND UP FOR SUICIDE RISK, AND WHEN WE FIND OUT THEY'RE AT RISK, WE CONNECT THEM IMMEDIATELY, BEFORE THEY LEAVE THE EXAM ROOM TO HIGHLY TRAINED CLINICIANS WHO CAN HELP.

STEVE: SOMEONE WITH YOUR TRAINING, FOR THOSE WHO ARE LAY PEOPLE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ASKED, AND WHEN IS IT CLEAR THAT SOMEONE MAY BE FACING RISK FACTORS?

>> WE KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO ASK DIRECTLY ABOUT SUICIDE, NOT TALK AROUND IT.

SOMETIMES WE MISS IF WE ASK OTHER QUESTIONS IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND DON'T PLANT THE SEED BY ASKING EITHER.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY YOU HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT KILLING YOURSELF?

FEELING LIKE A BURDEN TO OTHER PEOPLE?

DO YOU WISH YOU COULD GO TO SLEEP AND NOT WAKE UP.

ASKING DIRECTLY SHOWS YOU CARE.

STEVE: SOME PEOPLE WILL SAY, NOW, THAT YOU'RE SAYING IT ISN'T PLANTING THE SEED.

IT ISN'T?

>> IT IS NOT PLANTING THE SEED.

WE HAVE GREAT RESEARCH DEMONSTRATING, NOT ONLY IS IT PLANTING THE SEED, IT'S GIVING PEOPLE A LIFE LINE TO HOPE WHEN THEY ARE OTHERWISE STRUGGLING.

STEVE: HAVE YOU GOTTEN PUSHBACK FROM PARENTS WHO SAY, I'M NOT SURE I WOULD LIKE EVEN A PSYCHOLOGIST ASKING THOSE SORTS OF QUESTIONS?

>> I WOULD SAY INCREASINGLY THE ANSWER IS MUCH LESS SO THAN WE USED TO.

PUBLIC AWARENESS HAS REALLY INCREASED AS HAS STIGMA DECREASED, WHICH ALLOWS US TO ASK THE QUESTIONS MOST OF THE TIME.

WHEN WE EXPLAIN TO PARENTS THIS IS THE WAY WE FIND OUT TO HELP YOUR CHILD BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT THEIR WHOLE SELF, NOT JUST MEDICAL HEALTH, IT'S IMPORTANT.

STEVE: IT'S EXCITING PHOENIX CHILDREN'S DOES THIS INTEGRATIVE SITUATION.

IN THE ER, WHERE IS THE SUICIDE PREVENTION BAKED INTO THAT?

>> FROM THE MOMENT THEY WALK IN.

WE HAVE TRAINED CLINICIANS WHO KNOW THE EVIDENCE-BASED INTERVENTIONS FOR SUICIDE RISK.

WE ASK THE QUESTIONS DIRECTLY AT POINT OF TRIAGE, AND THEY GET IMMEDIATE HELP TO LIFE-SAVING CARE WHILE THERE, FROM A TRAINED CLINICIAN.

STEVE: BRIDGE CLINIC, TELL US ABOUT THAT.

>> OUR WAY OF MAKING SURE WHEN KIDS LEAVE THE EMERGENCY ROOM THAT CARE DOESN'T STOP WITH US.

IT'S SHORT-TERM CARE WE GIVE TO KIDS WHILE WE HELP THEM FIND A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROVIDER IN THE COMMUNITY NEAR TO THEM.

SO FAR WE'VE SERVED 1200 KIDS AND REDUCES FUTURE VISITS TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM.

>> ARE WE FINDING THAT KIDS ARE MORE OR LESS MATURE THAN WE THINK THEY ARE WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH CHALLENGES OF LIFE, AND HOW MUCH DOES THE WORK AT PHOENIX CHILDREN'S DIG INTO THAT TO LEARN MORE?

>> I REALLY FEEL WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SUICIDE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHO AM I IN THIS WORLD?

WHAT'S MY MEANING AND MY PURPOSE.

WHEN YOU CAN CONNECT WITH SOMEONE WHO SEES THAT AND KNOWS HOW TO WALK YOU THROUGH YOUR OWN JOURNEY TO SELF-DISCOVERY, TO THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS, YOU'D BE AMAZED WHAT KIDS CAN DO.

STEVE: THIS MAY BE AN ODD QUESTION, BUT WE HAVE CLINICIANS AND WHAT NOT, DOES IT HELP TO HAVE PEOPLE WHO WHEN THEY WERE TEENS.

NOT TAKEN ACTION ON IT, BUT HAVE TROUBLING THOUGHTS THEMSELVES?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I MYSELF HAVE LIVED EXPERIENCE, I LOST MY SISTER TO SUICIDE, WHICH IS THE REASON I DO THIS, RIGHT?

WHEN YOU LEARN WHAT'S THAT LIKE AND THE WAY PEOPLE REALLY THINK GOING THROUGH THAT, YOU CAN CONNECT TO THEM SO MUCH BETTER, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LEARN EVIDENCE BASED CARE.

STEVE: OBVIOUSLY, SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR SISTER.

THIS MAY BE AN OBVIOUS QUESTION.

WHAT ARE THE FACTORS PARENTS CAN LOOK FOR IN THEIR KIDS TO, AGAIN, NOT TO HOVER, BUT TO CARE AND TO SAY, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE MAKING ME NERVOUS ABOUT MY CHILD?

>> FIRST AND FOREMOST, IF YOU'RE NERVOUS, TALK TO THEM, ASK, DON'T WAIT, BUT SOME OF THE WARNING SIGNS INCLUDE THINGS LIKE, YOUR SLEEP CHANGES, YOU ARE CUT OFF FROM FRIENDS, YOU ARE MORE ISOLATED.

BIGGER BEHAVIORAL CHANGES.

I'M NO LONGER INTERESTED IN SOCCER, THOUGH I ALWAYS CARED ABOUT THAT.

THOSE ARE WARNING SIGNS INCLUDING INCREASED AGITATION.

STEVE: WE ONLY HAVE 30 SECONDS OR SO, A BIG ONE, SOCIAL MEDIA GETS BLAMED FOR EVERYTHING, THE SCOURGE OF OUR LIVES, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE USED AS AN AID AS OPPOSED TO NEGATIVE WHEN IT COMES TO THOSE THINGS?

>> SOCIAL CONNECTION IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS, WHEN YOU CAN USE SOCIAL MEDIA FOR GOOD TO CONNECT PEOPLE TOWARDS HEALTHY LIVING AND REAL PEOPLE CONNECTION TOO, RIGHT?

REAL WORLD LIVE ACTIVITIES CAN BE TREMENDOUSLY HELPFUL.

STEVE: DR.

ALAN, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

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STEVE: IN THE MALE DOMINATED FIELD OF JAPANESE STUDIO CERAMICS, PHOENIX ART MUSEUM IS HIGHLIGHTING 36 JAPANESE ARTISTS WHO PUSHED THE BOUNDARIES OF EXPRESSION.

WE'RE JOINED BY THE CURATOR OF THE PHOENIX ART MUSEUM.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

STEVE: WHY IS IT IMPORTANT TO PUSH THIS EXHIBITION?

>> PEOPLE WILL SEE HOW GREAT THE SCULPTURES ARE AND WONDER WHY THEY HAVEN'T SEEN THEM BEFORE.

YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.

WOMEN HAVE LARGELY BEEN LEFT OUT OF TREMENDOUS ARTISTIC TRADITIONS IN JAPAN, AND THIS EXHIBITION SHOWS THEY FOUND THEIR OWN WAY, AND HAVE DONE RADICALLY DIFFERENT THINGS AND BY SIMPLY GOING AROUND ALL THE TRADITIONS OF DOING THEIR OWN THING.

STEVE: WE'LL LOOK AT A FEW IN A MOMENT.

I'M ESPECIALLY CURIOUS ABOUT MAYBE THIS IS JUST ME, THAT THE EXHIBITION FEATURES ARTISTS WHO WERE BORN BEFORE WORLD WAR II, SOME IN THE 30s, BUT SEEN SOME BORN AS LATE AS THE 1960s.

HOW IMPORTANT WAS IT TO FIND THAT SPREAD, AND HOW DID THIS AFFECT THE ART WE'RE GOING TO SEE?

>> MOST OF THE ARTISTS ARE ALIVE AND WELL AND PRODUCING WORK.

THERE ARE 2 1/2 GENERATIONS OF ARTISTS, SOME THAT STARTED EARLIER AND BECAME MENTORS TO LATER ONES.

OVERALL, IT IS NOT A COLLECTIVE OF ARTISTS, THEY'RE DOING THEIR OWN THINGS INDEPENDENTLY.

STEVE: WHEN WE LOOK AT CERTAIN SCULPTURES AND WORKS OF ART, WILL WE NOTICE A REVOLUTION OF ARTISTS?

>> WHAT WILL PIQUE PEOPLE IS THE TREMENDOUS VARIETIES AND OVERUSE THE WORD RADICAL HERE, THEY ARE RADICALLY DIFFERENT FROM EACH OTHER.

ANYONE CAN WALK INTO THE EXHIBITION AND FIND SOMETHING THAT WILL PULL THEM IN AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO TAKE A REALLY CLOSE LOOK.

STEVE: OTHER THAN TRADITION, WHICH WE KNOW MANY NATIONS HOLD FAST TO, WAS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON THAT MEN DOMINATED THE FIELD OF CERAMICS?

WAS IT THAT WOMEN WERE NOT ALLOWED IN?

>> YEAH, THAT'S BASICALLY THE DEFINITION.

THERE ARE STORIES OF WOMEN HAVING BEEN TOO GOOD AT SOMETHING, BUT THE REAL CAUSE IS LOSS OF TIME.

IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

STEVE: AGAIN, I'M HOLDING OFF BECAUSE I WANT TO ASK YOU, WHERE DOES YOUR PASSION FOR ASIAN ART COME FROM?

>> OH, GOSH, I'VE BEEN PASSIONATE ABOUT ASIAN CULTURE FOR MANY YEARS AND PROUD TO WORK AT THE MUSICAL INSTRUMENT MUSEUM FOR MANY YEARS AS CURATOR OF ASIAN MUSIC AND THEN IT FLOWED.

STEVE: THE FIRST ONE IS RED VESSEL, DESCRIBE THAT FOR US AND WHAT IT MEANS AND STANDS FOR?

>> THIS IS A WONDERFUL INTELLIGENCELY RED VESSEL, SELF-DESCRIPTIVE, BUT THE ARTIST DREW INSPIRATION FROM THE PAINTED DESERT, FROM THE LANDSCAPE OF ARIZONA, AND SO HER USE OF THAT INTENSELY RED CLAY IS A REFLECTION OF THAT -- OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA, WHICH IS COOL FOR A WORK OF ART FROM JAPAN.

STEVE: A BEAUTIFUL COLOR, YEAH.

NEXT IS ERODING FLOWER.

>> THIS IS REALLY HIGHLIGHTING TWO OF THE THEMES THAT CAME TO THE SURFACE IN THIS EXHIBITION.

ONE OF BIOMORPHIC DESIGN, WHERE THE ARTISTS ARE NOT JUST MIMICKING NATURE, THEY'RE CREATING SCULPTURES THAT APPEAR TO BE THEIR OWN LIFE FORMS, SOMETIMES HYBRIDIZED.

THIS IS THE FLOWER AND GEOLOGIC PROCESS OF EROSION BUT OBSESSIVE PROCESSES WHERE THEY DO THESE INTENSELY DETAIL-ORIENTED PIECES AND ALSO TO MAKE CLAY THAT'S BEEN FIRED AND THUS VERY HARD, MAKE IT APPEAR SOFT AND MALLEABLE LIKE THE STAMMEN OF THIS FLOWER.

>> LET'S SEE THE DREAM FLIGHT.

OH, WOW.

>> THIS IS EXHIBIT A FOR OBSESSIVE PROCESSES.

DREAM FLIGHT BY TANAKA, SHE CONSTRUCTS, THIS IS A DETAIL SHOT, AND SHE CONSTRUCTS THESE PIECES OUT OF THOUSANDS OF LITTLE LAMMILA OF CLAY, SHE'S ABLE TO MAKE FIVE OR SIX OF THESE A YEAR.

STEVE: I WAS GOING TO ASK HOW LONG IT TYPICALLY TAKES.

WE HAVE TIME TO SEE BAG WORK AS WELL.

OKAY, THE DETAIL, AND I'M SPEAKING OF SOMEONE WHO HAS NO ARTISTIC ABILITY OF ANY KIND, BUT TO SEE THE INTRICACIES AND THE PATIENT THIS MUST TAKE TO MAKE IT LOOK AS REALISTIC AS IT DOES?

>> THIS IS ESPECIALLY INTERESTING.

TANAKA MAKES PIECES, IT APPEARS TO BE WRAPPED IN A FINE CLOTH.

IT LOOKS LIKE FINE CLOTH IN A SCULPTED CLAY, YOU JUST WANT TO TOUCH IT.

THIS PIECE IS MUCH LARGER THAN IT LOOKS IN THE PHOTO AND PULLS PEOPLE IN, BUT SHE'S ALSO TOYING WITH US BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT YOU DO WITH A FINE GIFT IN JAPAN, AND WE CAN NEVER UNWRAP THAT GIFT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T UNTIE THE NONFABRIC.

SHE'S REALLY PLAYING WITH US IN SEVERAL WAYS.

>> THEY ARE ALL BEAUTIFUL.

THAT WAS JUST FOUR.

A LOT MORE TO BE SEEN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

STEVE: THAT'S ALL FOR THIS EDITION OF "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M STEVE GOLDSTEIN IN FOR TED SIMONS TONIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.

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