Does America Still Work?

Does America Still Work? Transcript


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FRONTLINE Show #1417
Air Date: May 21, 1996


ANNOUNCER: The numbers just aren't adding up. You run a leaner operation or you shut down. How many people will you have to let go? Or is there another way?

Tonight on FRONTLINE, what does it take to stay in business today?

ROBERT EATON, CEO, Chrysler Corporation: We had to go through that down-sizing period or we wouldn't have survived.

ANNOUNCER: Correspondent Jeff Madrick looks at the hard decisions companies have to make and the people they affect.

BILL DONNELL: There is no loyalty anymore to the employee of America.

ANNOUNCER: Tonight, "Does America Still Work?"

JEFFREY MADRICK, Correspondent: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, has been called the city that works, the city with sweat on its brow. But something has changed in America and some Milwaukeeans are listening to a new message.

PAT BUCHANAN, (R), Presidential Candidate: Corporate profits are soaring! I don't mind corporate profits soaring, but why aren't the working men and women and the American families sharing, if the times are good?

JEFFREY MADRICK: The day before the 1996 primary, Patrick Buchanan brought his anti-corporate message to town.

PAT BUCHANAN: We got to stand up for that idea and that ideal, something called a "living wage" for the men and women of America, and these trade deals have sold that out. You and I know it.

BUCHANAN SUPPORTER: I_ I got a job. I don't want to see it go away because they can find someone that_ that'll work for less than what I'm getting. I want it_ I want it there and_ so I'll be able to support my family.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Buchanan received nearly 40 percent of the Republican vote in Milwaukee. He touched a nerve not only here, but across the nation. Now the mainstream candidates are echoing him.

Pres. BILL CLINTON: Many of our largest companies are laying off workers, some of them because they have to to compete in the global economy. Some of them are doing it even when their profits are going up.

JEFFREY MADRICK: The electoral battle for the hearts and minds of the "anxious class" is in full swing.

Sen. ROBERT DOLE, (R), Kansas, Presidential Candidate: Corporate profits are setting records, but so are corporate lay-offs. There's a wide and growing gap between what the government statistics say about our economy and how Americans feel about it.

JEFFREY MADRICK: After a decade and a half of down-sizing and lay-offs, corporate America has borne much of the blame this election season. Robert Eaton, the chairman of the Chrysler Corporation, takes exception.

ROBERT EATON: Now, I don't mean to get personal, but my mother has been my biggest fan over the years. At least she was until recently. Now the poor lady is getting confused. That's because every time she opens a magazine or turns on the television, she's told that people like me are no good. She reads that people like me like to fire thousands of other people so we can impress Wall Street and get bigger bonuses for ourselves.

Oh, I_ this_ you know, I'm trying to address all of this stuff. I mean, the_ the_ the rhetoric out there is absolutely not in agreement with the facts.

JEFFREY MADRICK, Correspondent: Well, I know you've criticized the Newsweek piece, the New York Times down-sizing piece. You_ are you saying they're just plain wrong?

ROBERT EATON: Oh, absolutely. I think it's_ it's just sensationalism that just absolutely makes my blood boil. The number one responsibility that we have is survival so that we can, you know, employ people, so that we can pay taxes, so that we can contribute to the community. And_ and to_ to say that_ that_ that management, you know, their whole objective is to_ is to reduce employees, they don't care what happens and_ it just is_ shows a recognition of simply not understanding the world at all.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Rudy Kuzel heads the United Auto Workers local at Chrysler's Kenosha plant just south of Milwaukee.

RUDY KUZEL, President: There's so much, to use their own euphemism, "down-sizing" and temporary employees, sometimes I think of this economy as a game of musical chairs and for every 100 people, there's only 20 or 25 chairs. And when the music stops, 20 or 25 have got good jobs and the rest of them are standing. Now they've got part-time jobs or crummy jobs, but they don't have a good job.

JEFFREY MADRICK: In Milwaukee, as in much of America, job security was once the norm, but it's increasingly harder to come by. One by one, many of the big corporations that made this city famous have either left or cut their workforce.

Reporter Jack Norman has covered business here for the last 14 years. He writes for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

JACK NORMAN: Nobody can breathe easy. The place I work was so secure, so comforting, we called it "Ma Journal." "Ma Journal" last year threw hundreds and hundreds of people out. It will happen anywhere, it can happen any time and nobody can be secure.

JEFFREY MADRICK: In a globally competitive world, what responsibility do corporations have to their workers? Is it still possible in America to have a social contract where hard work is exchanged for a secure and decent life?

For the last five years, FRONTLINE has followed the stories of several Milwaukee families and of two workers whose fortunes are tied to the dramatically changing relationship between American business and its employees.

Bill Donnell was laid off by an auto maker.

BILL DONNELL: You know, I_ I understand down-sizing, but you have to have a limit. You have to take care of your employees. You can't keep doing what you're doing and say the first thing is employees get laid off.

JEFFREY MADRICK: When Sheila Caldwell got laid off from her job, she felt it changed her.

SHEILA CALDWELL: I was so bitter toward everyone and I had no patience. It was just a side that I had never seen in myself and I_ I wasn't used to that. I'm usually friendly, out-going, but this really_ it really just made me just pure bitter.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Back in 1991, when FRONTLINE producers first met Sheila, she had lost her union job at Briggs & Stratton. Briggs, mainly a maker of lawnmower engines, had long been Milwaukee's largest private employer, providing over 10,000 family-sustaining jobs.

JACK NORMAN: Briggs was paying good wages because it had a strong union that negotiated the wages and that Briggs was profitable enough to be able to pay those wages. Didn't have as much in the way of competition. People bought lawn mowers and paid a lot of money for them.

REPORTER [Local news report]: Years ago, if you wanted a small engine, you got a Briggs & Stratton.

JEFFREY MADRICK: But in the 1980s, Briggs was forced to compete with low-priced Japanese imports, so it decided to try and cut costs partly by asking for wage concessions. Long, debilitating fights between union and management followed.

REPORTER [Local news report]: At a membership meeting, workers rejected a company request for concessions.

BRIGGS WORKER: They were asking for outrageous things, I think. We worked for six years without a pay increase and there's no reason why we should have to keep conceding.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Briggs began to eliminate jobs in Milwaukee. By 1994 it had cut its local workforce almost in half.

JACK NORMAN: Ultimately, Briggs had a business decision to make. In order to compete, especially in order to compete in engines for lawn mowers that would be sold at the Wal-Marts and the other big discounters where price is all that matters, Briggs had to get some relief on the wage side and they did that by telling its union, "You either cut your wages or we're going south."

REPORTER [Local News report]: The sun was shining over Statesboro, Georgia, today as Briggs & Stratton executives broke ground on a new $75 million small engine plant.

JEFFREY MADRICK: The company said it had no choice. Briggs's future was at stake. Ultimately, the strategy worked. By the early 1990s, Briggs had record profits and its stock price soared. But for many in Milwaukee, CEO Fred Stratton was now just another corporate villain.

JACK NORMAN: Fred Stratton, the man, is being vilified inappropriately. Fred Stratton is a businessman and he's doing what he sees is necessary for his company.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Fred Stratton declined to participate in this program.

STEPHEN HAUSER: If you were to interview Mr. Stratton, I'm sure he would tell you that the labor leaders at his Milwaukee plant were hard-headed and that much of this is their fault and that they weren't willing to deal on certain crucial issues when he needed them to deal. If you were to talk to the labor leaders, they would, of course, throw it back in Fred Stratton's court. I don't think that it's that simple.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Historian Stephen Hauser has tracked the consequences of corporate flight in Milwaukee.

STEPHEN HAUSER: You're in the heart of what once was the old Allis Chalmers complex. This really was a state-of-the-art manufacturing facility in its day. Now what I see is a microcosm of what's happened to the United States between the 1950s and the 1990s. You see a place where jobs for $4 or $5 or $6 an hour have replaced jobs that used to pay around $16, $18 or $20 an hour, right on the same location.

JEFFREY MADRICK: This was the new economy Sheila Caldwell found herself in after she lost her job: low wages and, as important, few of the benefits she'd taken for granted.

SHEILA CALDWELL: When I was laid off from Briggs & Stratton, I was off for about what, a month? And my insurance played out and it was hard to make ends meet, at times, and sometimes I used my MasterCharge or whatever just to pay for medical and_ and medication.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Sheila needed the medical insurance, but she couldn't find a job that offered it. She says she didn't want to go on Welfare, so she wound up working for $3.50 an hour at a medical parts plant.

SHEILA CALDWELL: I don't like to depend on nobody but myself, moreso_ if I go to work, I know I'm going to have a paycheck.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Sheila's problem was that she was going into debt paying for medical treatments for her daughter, Tamara. Tamara had been diagnosed with cervical cancer.

SHEILA CALDWELL: When I first found out my daughter had cervical cancer, I was afraid and I didn't want to believe it. And I was angry because I had the insurance through Briggs when this first happened and I was able to go in and get medical attention, good medical attention. And then after my insurance ran out, it was more or less, like, "You come in here, we want your pay first." It was more or less when I had insurance, I was treated with kindness and respect. And then after the insurance ran out, it was more or less, "We don't want you here because you don't have the money." You_ you know, on that order. And that really upset me.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Sheila was paying the price for what was seen as the necessary transformation of the American economy. The question is, was it too high a price?

Labor secretary Robert Reich.

[interviewing] Do you think corporate streamlining has just gone too far?

ROBERT REICH: I think "re-engineering" or "restructuring" or "down-sizing" or "right-sizing" or whatever you want to call it _ it's basically firing _ has gone way too far. Employees, as I talk to them across the country, feel that they are not respected, they are not valued. They are worried about their jobs. They simply feel that the company is no longer loyal to them. Why should they be loyal to the company, they ask me? "Why should I go the extra mile? Why should I care?"

JEFFREY MADRICK: You think they've lost trust in their companies and their managers?

ROBERT REICH: Trust is the most fragile commodity in any organization, in any culture, in any society. Once trust is abused, once it's lost, it is very hard ever to regain it.

REPORTER [NBC News Report]: They've been building cars in Kenosha for 86 years, but soon the big old auto plant on the lake front will close. Chrysler is leaving town. So are 5,500 jobs.

JEFFREY MADRICK: It was 1988. Chrysler had bought out American Motors and its Kenosha plant just the year before. Now only 1,000 workers were left here.

PICKETERS: Hey, Lee, what do you say? How many lies have you told today? Hey, Lee, what do you say? How many lies_

RUDY KUZEL: Well, everyone had_ had great expectations when Chrysler bought this plant because they came to the community and promised that the plant would be in operation for at least five years, assembling two Chrysler cars, the L body and the M body. And they weren't here a year when they announced they were closing the plant.

LEE IACOCCA: Blame us for being dumb managers for spending $200 million to put two old cars in an 86-year old plant, but please don't call me a liar when I've got to close it sooner than I thought.

RUDY KUZEL: Management said, "Gee, we're sorry. We_ we made a promise, but we can't keep it because we promised the people in Detroit, too. So tough luck."

JEFFREY MADRICK: Those were rough times in 1987, when Kenosha was closed. Was it_ looking back, was it really necessary?

ROBERT EATON: There isn't any company in the world that_ that is competitive, doing well, that says, "Golly, I'd like to down-size." We had to go through that down-sizing period in_ in '89, '90 or we wouldn't have survived. And so while it's very unpleasant for the_ for the company, and_ and moreso even for the people_ clearly, not something that you want to do. It's a hard_ unbelievable hardship on_ on the employees, and so forth. But it's a necessary thing to do to be able to ultimately grow and_ and change and be more competitive.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Chrysler had laid off five out of every six workers at Kenosha, 5,500 in all. Bill Donnell was one of them. He'd worked 16 years on the assembly line.

BILL DONNELL: It's like your whole world is coming to an end. I mean, you watch that last car go down the line and you're, like, "Wow." You know, "This is it. What am I going to do?" You try to keep up your morale and then you got to go home and say, "How am I going to keep my house? How am I going to keep my family?"

JEFFREY MADRICK: Bill couldn't find a well-paid permanent job, so he worked mostly through temporary agencies.

BILL DONNELL: In this area, I was a door-to-door salesman. I sold ice cream and it was all commission and my job was to sign up new customers. So I would go around with a half gallon of ice cream and hand it to them and come back a couple days later and tell them about our service, leave them a brochure and ask them to go through it. And I worked for that company for nine months.

It's not like being hired in. You don't feel comfortable, okay? It's, like, you're only there temporary. The people treat you that way in a lot of situations. I was fortunate, more fortunate than other people, because I got along with everybody and they said, "You're one of the best temps we had," you know, but I didn't feel_ you know, but you don't really feel part of it.

This is one of the places I worked as a distribution supervisor and I only worked there for about five months.

Here, I worked here approximately around six weeks and for $5.25. I was working for another temp service called Cornwell, at the time.

I was supposed to be here for 30 days and it could have turned permanent, but it_ I only worked here seven days. I don't know what was the reason why, but I guess_ when I got here, I found out that the company had filed Chapter 11.

You don't have it the way you had it back in the '50s and early parts, where you went to work for a company, they took care of you, the did everything in their power to keep you. Now it's, "Let's make the money. We don't care what plant we close, where we go. We got to where_ but yet we're willing to pay these top executives millions of dollars a year" and they're willing to put people out on the street and they say, "Well, it's the global economy." Wait a minute. You don't have to keep moving out because us_ we're the ones that are paying for it, ultimately.

ROBERT EATON, CEO, Chrysler Corporation: Through the '80s, there's no question about the fact that the auto industry in the United States was not very competitive, either from the time it took to do a product, the amount of investment it took, the_ the cost to build it or the quality. And_ and the industry went through a very substantial changeover domestically. We were either going to change or we weren't going to survive. We almost didn't survive. We had another brush with bankruptcy only six or seven years ago and I think there's nothing that focuses people, you know, like that survival instinct.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Sheila Caldwell also had to fight for survival. After two years at low-wage jobs, she just couldn't make it, so she quit work and, with some public assistance, attended school full-time to retrain in the medical field.

SHEILA CALDWELL: I decided to go ahead and quit my job and go to school and try to make the best of it while I can because I don't know when this opportunity is going to come again and I'm getting older and the children are getting older and I'm going to have to do something.

That's protruding, hernia, swelling.

I told them I was going back to school and they were shocked and I was telling them that, "Don't get mad and don't begrudge me of this," so they look and now they're at a point, "Well, okay, we'll give you study time. We'll help you study."

Spell it, then.

RAYTRELL CALDWELL: You got five seconds. One_

SHEILA CALDWELL: Okay, I give up.

RAYTRELL CALDWELL: _three, four, five. Spinal cord.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Without medical insurance, Sheila couldn't afford to keep up with proper care for her daughter, Tamara.

SHEILA CALDWELL: Well, I look at her and I say, you know, "Why is this happening to my child? Is it going to go away?" I was told no, she would never be cured of it. I don't know what's going to happen in the future. I don't know what she's going to do in the future.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Sheila was training to become an EKG technician and a health unit coordinator. At the time, EKG technicians started at about $9 an hour.

SHEILA CALDWELL: Even if I had to take two part-time jobs, it would be pretty good, as long as I would get the benefits that would be included in on it. That's the main thing, the health benefits, because without those health benefits, I don't know. It's going to be rough.

BILL DONNELL: "Retraining"_ that's all you ever hear about, is everybody says "retraining, retraining." What are you retraining these people for? Are you retraining them for jobs that exist? Are you retraining them for jobs in the future?

When I lost my job at Chrysler, I was told, "Finish your education. Get a better education. You'll move on." And I've got certificates up kaboo to show you that I attended and I maintained somewhere around a 3_ you know, from a 4.0 to a 3.7 in my training programs, but I yet couldn't get a job.

Here you got C&C turning, my computer repair_ they're not in order_ electronic fundamentals, computer software systems. I got tons of them_ mathematics. Here's blueprint reading 1. Here's my supervisory management certificate and_

JEFFREY MADRICK: Finally, Bill Donnell got what he thought was the opportunity he'd been waiting for, a state-run retraining program that promised a good job upon completion.

BILL DONNELL: I thought, "If I can't believe the state of Wisconsin, who am I going to believe?" If there's going to be more computers in this country, they got to have computer repairmen. So I thought, "This is great, something that I've always wanted to do."

JEFFREY MADRICK: Part-way through the course, the retraining program folded and there were no jobs. The students were left in the lurch.

1st STUDENT: We're saying PRIDE has been, since the beginning_ that we want that training. We want the training we were supposed to get.

2nd STUDENT: Right.

BILL DONNELL: And I thought I checked it out because my wife asked, "Is this going to be one of these other scams where they promise you this education and a job at the end with no job?" I says, "No, hon." I questioned everybody. "Do we have employers at the end of this program?" Well, I'll tell you what. My wife is sitting there laughing and she was ready to divorce me. I'm not kidding you.

"I told you so. You wasted 29 weeks out of your life." What the hell are we going to do? I can't keep working like I am without_ you know, how are we going to make it? Because I borrowed on my credit card and stuff like that. I mean, I did.

My wife, she works at a bank. She makes enough to pay the mortgage and the second mortgage. She pays for the medical, okay, which is the life saver. But when it gets real tight in the month, if I'm not working, we can't make it. So she's the one that's kept us together, I mean, by working and that. But I_ it does put a strain on us, I mean, family-wise. My kids can't do as much as they used to do.

Kim_ what kind of future does she have? We've got more McDonald's and sandwich places than we do factories.

I don't know if I could even afford to pay to send them to school. I mean, right now, if either one of them would want to go to college, I couldn't give them the money, so I don't know how they would be able to afford to go. I'm, you know, scared that if I make a promise, I won't be able to keep it and that's_ so I don't try to make any promises. I'm sorry. Maybe that's not the answers you want, but that's it.

ROBERT REICH, Secretary of Labor : A lot of people in the middle are anxious and they are anxious for two reasons. One, because of the long-term decline in median wages. That's the wage of the person right smack in the middle and everybody below. But also because the rate of job loss that is permanent is higher in the 1990s than in the 1980s. You have two wage earners most families rely on, or they rely on a single wage earner who is the sole parent in that house. And therefore, if one wage is lost, that can mean the difference between making ends meet or destitution. So for a whole variety of reasons, there is genuine economic insecurity out there, even though the economy, overall, is doing splendidly.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Like millions of Americans dislocated in the new economy, Sheila's retraining didn't enable her to replace what she had lost. She was now working 16 hours a day. She had two full-time health care jobs, catching a few hours of sleep between them so she could work all night.

SHEILA CALDWELL: I would leave at 10:30 to be at County Hospital by 11:00 o'clock at night. And then I would get off at 7:00 in the morning, change clothes and then work from 8:00 o'clock in the morning until 4:00 o'clock in the evening at Family. I would leave there, come home and then cook, wash, clean, take care, you know, of the children's problems, grocery store, whatever I had to do.

Good night. No Nintendo, no T.V. Good night.

JEFFREY MADRICK: What had been lost was an old-fashioned American promise that a balance could be struck between a hard day's work and a quality of life for herself and her family.

It is five years later. In 1996, we returned to Milwaukee.

[interviewing] Jack, what was the attitude? What was the environment like in the early 1980s, when all these companies were leaving Milwaukee?

JACK NORMAN The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: First it was a shock and a surprise, as each one would either leave or shrink. And then, over the years, it builds up and then people come to expect that that's what's going to happen, till the point when it becomes a kind of surprise when a company doesn't do that.

JEFFREY MADRICK: One company that has stayed in the face of hard times is Harley-Davidson.

JACK NORMAN: Harley-Davidson was making big motorcycles and it got killed by the Japanese motorcycles. It also was a company that found itself sold off to a big conglomerate that just didn't care about this little motorcycle operation and quality just completely went kaput.

JEFFREY MADRICK: But Harley decided to make itself over and it's riding high.

[interviewing] So this is the pride of Milwaukee?

RICHARD TEERLINK: This is Milwaukee iron. It's_ this happens to be a product called the Fat Boy. It's a soft-tail motorcycle, which is_

JEFFREY MADRICK: Richard Teerlink is the chief executive and part of the team that engineered a management buy-out.

[interviewing] Was there a decision that had to be made about staying in Milwaukee or did you never really consider leaving?

RICHARD TEERLINK: If you go back to 1981, which was the time we did the leveraged buy-out, we didn't have a choice because we didn't have any funds to relocate. And if you also go back to that time, you find that was when we had to face a very tough decision in 1982 to lay off 40 percent of our people. We also vowed at that time we'll never do that again. Our challenge was we had too many people. We didn't_ we weren't efficient. We weren't making products of a quality that our customers wanted. And we started the whole issue of getting people to understand what they want to do to satisfy customers.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Couldn't you make more money if you moved to an area where labor was cheaper or didn't have a union shop?

RICHARD TEERLINK: If you view that the objective is only to make money, yes. But we view that, you know, what we have to do is balance stakeholder interests. We have six stakeholders we have to serve. The investor is one. Very important one. We also have employees and we have customers and we have suppliers and we have government and society. And we have to try and deal with all of those, not just one, because if all I worry about is the bottom line and abuse my employees, I'm not going to have quality products.

JACK NORMAN: Harley-Davidson spent money to modernize its headquarters, yet preserving its jobs in Milwaukee. And while from time to time, it may have some difficult relations with its unions, it's managed to always resolve those situations in a peaceful fashion and has not only that, but has extended itself into its_ the immediate neighborhood of its community.

JEFFREY MADRICK: It's a community that has been devastated by the departure of its manufacturing base, but Harley is not the only company to stay in the inner city. In Metcalfe Park, once a middle class neighborhood, the Master Lock company is prospering.

[interviewing] A climate has been created, I think, in corporate America in the last 10 or 15 years that it is okay to leave. It is okay to go, find the cheapest_ the cheapest labor you can find. Master Lock decided not to do that. Why?

JIM BEARDSLEY, President and CEO, Master Lock Co.: When plants relocate, they're generally in search of a more cost-effective environment. We have a very cost-effective plant here. Our manufacturing efficiencies are based on vertical integration and a skilled labor force, so we do our own die-casting and stamping and heat treating and plating. We even make the plastic bumpers that are on the Master Lock padlock. And in order to maintain a plant like that, you need a skilled labor force. Our labor force has grown up with the company. The average age of the individual we have working here is approximately 44 years. They have approximately 14 years of seniority. That level of skill is necessary in order to keep this process going and keep it efficient.

JEFFREY MADRICK: In Milwaukee, jobs at Master Lock are coveted and Sheila Caldwell landed one.

SHEILA CALDWELL: When I get the lock bodies, I check and make sure that the lock bodies have rivets in them, checking for the springs and making sure the springs are in there and then in there right.

JEFFREY MADRICK: After all her retraining, Sheila had decided to go back to the assembly line. In return, she got a job with regular hours and full benefits.

SHEILA CALDWELL: Master Lock more or less brought me out of a hole. You_ you're so down. You have no self-esteem. You_ it's more or less like you hit rock bottom and then, all of a sudden, you have another chance.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Since we last saw her, Sheila has become a grandmother and her daughter, Tamara's, cancer is in remission. Sheila's insurance paid for Tamara's crucial surgery.

SHEILA CALDWELL: You don't pay for your insurance. Master Lock pays for that. And if you have a referral from your main doctor, you know, to go to the other doctors, all that's free. That's a blessing in itself.

JEFFREY MADRICK: One of the reasons that Master Lock has been able to stay in the community is that, for the most part, management and labor have stopped fighting each other. The last major strike here was in 1980.

REPORTER [Local news report]: This morning the police made their presence known. They lined the streets as non-union workers drove in and out, keeping the couple hundred picketers on the sidewalk.

DONALD CHEATHAM: I was the head of the strike committee. It was rough. We had other companies from other cities coming in and joining us on the picket line. We had solidarity day where we flattened cars. To look back on that and we go, "Man, that really happened."

JEFFREY MADRICK: Don "Tiny" Cheatham is a union worker and Master Lock's representative for community relations.

DONALD CHEATHAM: Six years ago, the company asked me if I would mind getting into the community and find out why the residents were so bitter about Master Lock.

JEFFREY MADRICK: He oversees the company's neighborhood outreach program.

DONALD CHEATHAM: And the reason we're doing it is because we want to open up to the minority ladies because we have_ we're getting our young men, but we want some women. And it's not a dirty_ it's not_ you know, you won't get dirty. I can go like this. This is how I used to go when I_

We've had a lot of kids throw water and throw stones. We had graffiti on our building. And if we didn't get involved with our community and have somebody that's out there in the field, so to say, then I think we wouldn't be here.

One of the things that I was going to be involved doing was getting rid of bad actors in our neighborhood. And this building was one of them. This was prostitutes, drugs, you name it. I mean, the cops were here every night. And we leveled it. We didn't literally tear it down by hand, but we got the city and the people at the City Hall to be in power with us to help us get rid of this. We done that with the people in the neighborhood.

Officer RICHARD ORCHOLSKI: When I first started about five years ago, the houses were just kind of_ I couldn't see anybody living in them. But now, as you drive through, there's more and more houses being rehabbed and the really bad ones are being torn down and they're building new ones.

JIM BEARDSLEY, President and CEO, Master Lock Company: The environment in which our people come to work, the environment in which they work, in which they live, have a great effect on their attitudes, the constructive approach that they bring to the job.

JEFFREY MADRICK: It makes them feel better. It makes your employees feel better.

JIM BEARDSLEY: It makes them more productive.

JEFFREY MADRICK: But companies like Master Lock may be more the exception. Dan Luria is a management consultant.

DANIEL LURIA: No more than 20 percent of American companies are clearly on the high road to stay. Everyone else has either chosen the low road or is being actively tempted to take the low road. And that is, in large part, what's wrong with the American economy. It's what makes us produce too many things that are at the low end of the food chain in manufacturing and not enough at the high end.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Is it simply becoming fashionable in corporate circles to take what you describe as "the low road"? Is it just the thing to do, look for low wages and low-investment production facilities, rather than high wages, good managerial techniques, high investment?

DANIEL LURIA: Doing the right thing is risky. And if the right thing involves making big investments in equipment, in old plants, in older workers, those are all things which carry risks.

JEFFREY MADRICK: You could put all this money in, you could have the best intentions in the world, and you could lose your shirt.

DANIEL LURIA: Absolutely right. But if you don't take the risk, you are not going to be a leader in your field, in the long haul.

JEFFREY MADRICK: One other company that decided to take the risk and invest in the Milwaukee area is Chrysler. The company invested aggressively in the Kenosha plant, which makes engines for the popular Jeep Cherokee. It also upgraded its technology and retrained its workers. Of the 5,500 laid off, 500 were rehired.

Bill Donnell is an auto worker again. He's back, making over $18 an hour with full benefits and an annual bonus.

BILL DONNELL: It was the best day of my life! I mean, smiles and everything! I'm not kidding you. I mean, because it was, like, to myself, "Hey, that's a $10 an hour raise!" You know, more_ you know, I was, like, "Great!" I kiss that ground right now every day I go in! I mean, I_ I_ I'm serious! I appreciate it.

ROBERT EATON, CEO, Chrysler Corporation: There was an effort that started, really, in 1987, '88 to completely rejuvenate the product line up with the Chrysler Corporation and at the same time try to_ to bring the workforce in as a partner in_ in working to improve cost and quality.

RUDY KUZEL, President, UAW Local 72: No longer can an auto company afford to have the so-called "dumb assembly line worker" that doesn't know anything. These people are doing industrial engineering. They're doing ergonomic engineering. They sit in groups and brainstorm and do problem solving. We've had our whole assembly line re-engineered and re-done by the people that work out there.

JEFFREY LUTZ, Assembly Worker: What they've come to realize is the people that are out on the line, doing the job day in and day out, learn a lot about their job and about_ a lot about how it should work.

JOE GARTNER, Engineer: We have designs. We talk about what the design people are proposing, and then exchange, "Will this work or won't this work in our context?" And being an engineer, I have a mindset as to how things should work, whereas the assembly people, our union workers here, have different ideas and actually have the work experience to do it.

RUDY KUZEL: You can dislike the management, but you can't dislike your customers and you can't dislike yourself. Now, workers and management have got a common objective that nobody can argue with and that's giving your customers the best possible product they can give them.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Working together to raise quality is new at Kenosha. When American Motors owned the plant, worker-manager relations were poor.

JEFFREY LUTZ: I got one instance where it really ticked me off. The machine broke down that I was running. I knew what broke. They called the maintenance over and engineers over to look at it and_ and I says, you know, "I think there's something wrong with the table," you know? "The table don't seem to be working right. It's supposed to rotate. It rotates, but it_ there seems to be something wrong." And they told me, "Shut up. We're engineers. We know what we're talking about." Well, about an hour later, after it's been down this long, the engineer says, "Oh, I found out what's wrong. The table's off line." I says, "Yeah, you found out what's wrong. That's what I told him the first five minutes." But because I was a peon, they didn't listen to me. Now the first thing they would do is ask me, "What do you think's wrong?"

BILL DONNELL: I enjoy going to work.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Bill Donnell's union seniority got him the job at Chrysler. Now he's being retrained as an engine repairman.

BILL DONNELL: You have to pay attention. You've got to listen. It's being trained the right way. It's just a learning experience. If you have problems, you go talk to another repairman, see if he ever ran into problems like that. It's using your brain instead of your brawn.

JEFFREY MADRICK: You got something like $5 million for retraining from the state of Wisconsin. How critical was that at Kenosha?

ROBERT EATON: Well, it_ it's_ it is very, very significant. I mean, there's no question that_ that_ that it's not only_ it's not only the money, but it's also the commitment with the community and the recognition that this is a partnership with_ with the community.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Is there a place for government to help you accomplish these goals, do you think, through incentives, tax breaks, changes in regulations?

ROBERT EATON: Well, there isn't any question that there's a lot of things that_ that would help. Basically, with respect to changing the culture of the company, we have to do that.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Like Chrysler, Harley also changed its culture. Both companies claim that a modern corporation has to be socially responsible.

[interviewing] A lot of corporate leaders these days_ perhaps they feel under the gun, but a lot of them say business does not have a social responsibility. If it had to worry about that, it wouldn't do business.

RICHARD TEERLINK, Chairman and CEO, Harley-Davidson: They may not feel they have a social responsibility, but if they ignore the powers of society, they'll be out of business because society can complain to government and then government can regulate and government can do the one thing they do very well and that's over-regulate.

JEFFREY MADRICK: But when times were hard, Harley turned to the government for help.

JACK NORMAN, The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: Well, there was this huge tariff imposed on big Japanese motorcycles and that gave Harley-Davidson an opportunity, if it could get the quality of its motorcycles back where it had been and put out good marketing, it had a window, a few years of high tariffs, to reestablish itself in the market and that's exactly what it did. In fact, it was so successful that Harley went to Congress and said, "We don't need the tariff anymore. Get rid of it."

RICHARD TEERLINK: We were where we thought we had to be. Was there a P.R. advantage to that? Absolutely. But the fact is we did it. All businesses aren't sitting around, just waiting for a hand-out. If they're given an opportunity to perform and if there are measures, you might find that they will do the right thing.

ROBERT REICH: When I talk to chief executives about government, they always say, "We don't want government. We don't want you in our business." That's an understandable response. But if you talk to them specifically, "Do you want a tariff to protect yourself? Do you want a bail-out if you get in bad trouble? Do you want a tax incentive for tuition assistance to your employees? Do you want a tax break for research and development?" The story is very different. "Oh, yes. Well, that's_ yes, something like that is very, very necessary." And then I come back, "Well, isn't that government?" "Well, yes, it is government, but it's government helping us." You can't really have it both ways.

JEFFREY MADRICK: But Secretary Reich's boss, President Clinton, seems to want it both ways. At last week's conference on corporate citizenship, he used the bully pulpit to encourage CEOs to do the right thing and make money. He stopped short of threatening government interference.

Pres. BILL CLINTON: What do employers owe employees? What do employees owe employers? What, if anything, should the government do to help to deal with the new challenges that we face?

JEFFREY MADRICK: There is promise in the new economic environment, but the new social contract doesn't include job security. The simple truth is that in the 1990s, those who have lost their jobs are, on average, out of work longer than in most of the 1980s. The new jobs workers find typically pay less than the ones they lost and the distribution of income in America today, according to most economists, is more unequal than anywhere in the advanced industrial world.

ROBERT REICH: Wages for Americans in the top 20 percent of earnings are doing quite well. If you're in the top 5 percent, you are doing extremely well. If you're in the top 1 percent, you are doing better than the top 1 percent has done probably in 50 or 60 or 70 years. But if you're in the bottom 20 or 30 or 40 percent, you're not doing well.

JEFFREY MADRICK: In the meantime, CEOs are certainly in the top 1 percent. The salaries they pay themselves are extraordinarily high. Is_ are they making too much money?

ROBERT REICH: I think it's not good for a company, in terms of its own bottom line, to allow too great a gulf to open up between the compensation of the boss at the top and everybody else.

ROBERT EATON: Well, first of all, there's no question that I think CEOs in this country are very well paid. They are paid_ they are paid by a committee of the board, always, in the case of every_ every case I know, at least, of outside directors who are_ who are dedicated to, you know, representing the shareholder and_ and there's been a big change in compensation in this country in the last few years and it's tied to the performance of the stock. Something in_ approaching 75 percent of my compensation is purely tied to the success of the stock. We talked about that if_ if_ if the company make_ makes a profit, everybody benefits.

RUDY KUZEL: On a relative scale, compared to other CEOs, I suppose you could argue that Eaton is not excessive, when you compare him to the head of Disney, who's making hundreds of millions a year. But I think they're all paid too much. They really are. I mean, the Japanese executives_ and this is not_ nothing personal against Bob Eaton, who I think is_ he and Lutz are doing a very good job of running this company. But I think they're all overpaid. Four million a year? That's $2,000 an hour. Nobody's worth $2,000 an hour.

JEFFREY MADRICK: But Chrysler's profits are way up and they've adopted a generous profit-sharing plan for their employees.

WILL HEATHCOTE, Plant Manager: Our new 2-7 V-6 engine, which is new to Chrysler Corporation_ we'll be building it next summer.

JEFFREY MADRICK: They're also expanding the Kenosha plant to build an engine they now buy from Mitsubishi.

WILL HEATHCOTE: That'll mean considerably more jobs. We're not saying exactly how many because_

JEFFREY MADRICK: But with all the new efficiencies, it's likely only a quarter of those who originally lost their jobs will be called back.

BILL DONNELL: It's a lot better. It's not as stressful until she was told that she_

JEFFREY MADRICK: Despite being one of the lucky ones, Bill is still feeling hard times. He's deeply in debt and he figures it will take five years to get back to where he was in 1988. His daughter, Kim, is working part-time and considering whether to go to college.

KIM DONNELL: Now that he's making more money, he can pay for my prom dress and my prom shoes that I just bought yesterday. It's really nice, isn't it, instead of making me pay for my prom stuff.

BILL DONNELL: There are things that are not yet paid for that Ma doesn't tell me I pay for.

JEFF MADRICK: [unintelligible] right now.

BILL DONNELL: I know there's_ they went shopping yesterday. I know I bought something.

I can't tell you how many people that have_ they've come back to work for Chrysler that aren't married anymore and they're divorced and that the_ just the pressures of all that time off or during that time_ just isn't the same like it was. I_ not to say that their families would have stayed together. I don't know.

But there_ I think there was a big_ you can see a lot of people_ I know a lot of people that went bankrupt. I know a lot of people that lost their_ that they lost their families and it just_ you know, certain things_ they're happy to be back and it's great and they're feeling great that they're starting to live what they used to live like and they're starting to get their feet back on the ground again.

SHEILA CALDWELL: Now that I'm working at Master Lock, it seems like I'm more independent. I'm stronger. It's, like, I can do this on my own, like. I don't know how you would say it. It seems like it's pride. I don't know. It's just self-pride.

In my mind, Master Lock is going to be there forever. I see it as my retirement job.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Can the Sheila Caldwells of your company at last breathe easy?

JIM BEARDSLEY: Well, I don't think any of us can breathe easy. The imports produce a low-price produce with low-cost labor. We can't compete on those bases. We have to figure out how to work smarter, not harder.

JEFFREY MADRICK: Would a smart worker today say to herself, "These are different times. Anything could happen. I better keep more money in the bank. I better keep my eyes open for opportunities"?

JIM BEARDSLEY: What we hope Sheila's doing is figuring out how she can increase her skill levels so she has more to offer Master Lock or more to offer another employer, so she can do a better job running the improved processes and the better equipment that we need to stay competitive.

ROBERT EATON: You cannot relax. Again, you know, you've got to think about whatever you're doing, every single day there is somebody that_ that is going to_ to buy that product or that service. Every morning, when they wake up in Japan or Europe or_ or Brazil or whatever, they're trying to become more effective and more productive so that they can do better in the world market. And if we don't do the same thing, they'll run right over us.

BILL DONNELL: I was hired to build cars. They don't build cars or build engines, whatever it is, then I don't have a job again. And I don't want to go through that again. I don't want to go through that again.

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