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FBI Director Christopher Wray testified about homeland security threats Sept. 24 before the U.S. Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.
Watch the hearing in the video player above.
Christopher Miller, director of the National Counterterrorism Center and Ken Cuccinelli, acting director of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, also testified at the hearing.
President Donald Trump said he was bothered by FBI Director Chris Wray’s testimony before the House last week that antifa is an ideology, not an organization.
“The fact is that antifa is a bad group,” said Trump on Sept. 18 on the White House driveway before departing for Minnesota.
“They’re criminals and they’re anarchists and they’re agitators and they’re looters and rioters and everything else, they’re bad. And when a man doesn’t say that, that bothers me. I wonder why he’s not saying that.”
Wray did not dispute in his testimony Sept. 17 before Congress that antifa activists were a serious concern, saying that antifa was a “real thing” and that the FBI had undertaken “any number of properly predicated investigations into what we would describe as violent anarchist extremists,” including into individuals who identify with antifa.
But, he said, “It’s not a group or an organization. It’s a movement or an ideology.”
That characterization contradicts the depiction from Trump, who in June singled out antifa – short for “anti-fascists” and an umbrella term for far-left-leaning militant groups – as responsible for the violence that followed George Floyd’s death.
Courtney Vinopal is a general assignment reporter at the PBS NewsHour.
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