♪♪ >>> WELCOME TO ANOTHER EDITION OF "POLITICAL REWIND," I'M BILL NIGUT.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US FOR OUR SHOW TODAY.

YOU KNOW, MY FATHER WAS A GREAT COLLECTOR OF NEWSPAPER FRONT PAGES, HISTORIC NEWSPAPER FRONT PAGES.

HE LITERALLY HAD HUNDREDS OF THEM THAT HE PRESERVED WHEN THE HEADLINES WERE TOLD OF MOMENTOUS EVENTS IN THE WORLD AND I HAVE SEVERAL OF THEM FRAMED AND HANGING IN MY OFFICE AT MY HOUSE, AND ONE OF THEM IS FROM THE CHICAGO DAILY NEWS AND THE BANNER HEADLINE, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE IN 72 POINT BOLD TYPE IS NAZIS ROLL INTO POLAND.

AND IT'S HARD FOR ME NOT TO LOOK AT THAT HEADLINE TODAY AND REALIZE THAT WHAT WE'RE WATCHING UNFOLD IN UKRAINE AS RUSSIAN TROOPS INVADE UKRAINE IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ACTION, MILITARY ACTION IN EUROPE SINCE WORLD WAR II.

THE WORLD IS STILL SHOCKED AND REELING FROM WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE, AND IT HAS FOUND ITS WAY INTO GEORGIA, BOTH IN TERMS OF THE MILITARY HERE, POLITICS HERE, UKRAINIAN IMMIGRANTS WHO ARE LIVING HERE AND ARE DESPERATELY ARE TRYING TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH THEIR FAMILIES BACK IN UKRAINE.

SOME OF THEM TRYING TO GET THEIR FAMILIES OUT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO START OUR SHOW TODAY TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE AND HOW IT'S IMPACTING US ALL RIGHT HERE IN GEORGIA.

SO WITH ALL THAT IN MIND, LET ME GET RIGHT TO OUR PANEL.

IT'S FRIDAY, PATRICIA MURPHY, WHO OF COURSE IS A POLITICAL REPORTER AND A POLITICAL COLUMNIST.

SHE WRITES A POLITICAL INSIDER COLUMN FOR ""THE ATLANTA JOURNAL-CONSTITUTION"."

YOU READ THAT ON WEDNESDAYS AND SUNDAYS IN THE NEWSPAPER.

AND SHE ALSO OVERSEES THE JOLT AT AJC.COM, WHICH IS WHERE IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT POLITICS YOU GO TO FIND INTERESTING NEWS EVERY SINGLE DAY UPDATED THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

PATRICIA, IT IS NOT AN EXAGGERATION TO SAY I DON'T THINK WE'RE ALL STILL A LITTLE BIT STUNNED BY WHAT WE'RE WATCHING UNFOLD IN UKRAINE.

>> YEAH, THE IMAGES PARTICULARLY ON CNN, I THINK THEY'VE DONE AN IMMENSELY THOROUGH JOB REALLY KEEPING PEOPLE INFORMED.

WE ARE WATCHING AN INVASION UNFOLD IN REALTIME, AND IT'S A CITY THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH.

IT'S THE LARGEST COUNTRY IN EUROPE INVADING THE SECOND LARGEST COUNTRY IN EUROPE, AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO PROCESS.

IT'S HARD TO ALMOST BELIEVE IT'S HAPPENING, AND IT'S A LITTLE SCARY TO THINK ABOUT WHERE IT COULD BE GOING.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A COLUMN THAT YOU POSTED ONLINE THIS MORNING THAT'S ALSO GOING TO APPEAR IN THE NEWSPAPER ON SUNDAY, WHICH TALKS ABOUT POLITICAL REACTION HERE IN GEORGIA, AND WE'LL GET TO THAT IN A FEW MINUTES.

RENEE ALAGRIA, WHO IS THE CEO OF MUNDO HISPANICO DIGITAL JOINS US AS WELL.

BEFORE THE SHOW, I SAID I'D BEEN WATCHING CNN AS PATRICIA HAS, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE WAY IN WHICH THEY'VE COVERED THIS REMINDS ME OF WHAT AN EXTRAORDINARY ORGANIZATION TED TURNER ORIGINALLY BUILT WITH HIS VISION FOR A WORLD NEWS ORGANIZATION.

CNN IS EVERYWHERE COVERING THIS THING IN AN EXTRAORDINARY WAY, AND I REALLY DO THINK IT HAS TO GO BACK TO TED TURNER'S VISION.

OF COURSE HE'S LONG SINCE NO LONGER A PART OF CNN, BUT IT WAS HIS IMPULSE TO BUILD IT, AND NOW WE SEE THE FRUITS ONCE AGAIN AS WE DO IN SO MANY WORLD CCRISES.

RENEE, WELCOME TO THE SHOW TODAY.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME, BILL ISSUE.

I DO THINK -- I'M SORRY.

>> NO, PLEASE, GO AHEAD.

I WAS GOING TO JUST PIGGYBACK ON WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT TED TURNER AND HAVING AN ATLANTA-BORN MEDIA PROPERTY REALLY JUST COVER THE GLOBAL NEWS AND THE IMPACT OF WHAT IT HAS ON US HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.

I THINK THAT IT WAS THE START OF MANY MEDIA PROPERTIES FROM GEORGIA, THE AJC BEING ONE OF THEM, MUNDO HISPANICO ANOTHER WHAT WE DO AND PROVIDE NEWS AND INFORMATION FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COME ONTO OUR SITE.

>> THANK YOU FOR ADDING ALL OF THAT THIS MORNING.

WE'RE ALSO JOINED BY PROFESSOR ANDRA GILLASPIE, A PROFESSOR OF POLITICAL SCIENCE AT EMORY UNIVERSITY, AND DIRECTOR OF THE INSTITUTE FOR THE STUDY OF RACE AND DIFFERENCE.

ANDRA, I SUPPOSE IT'S ALMOST SORT OF SELF-EVIDENT TO SAY THIS, BUT I'M SURE THE SHOCK OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HAS HIT YOU AS HARD AS EVERYONE ELSE?

>> YEAH, I MEAN, I CARE ABOUT THIS AS A CITIZEN.

I DON'T STUDY IR AS A POLITICAL SCIENTIST ANYMORE SO CERTAINLY NOT WHERE MY RESEARCH AREA IS, SO HI A GREAT DINNER LAST NIGHT, TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH COLLEAGUES WHO MIGHT KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ALL CARE ABOUT EVEN THOUGH IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S HAPPENING HALF A WORLD AWAY.

>> OKAY.

WELL, LET'S DIG INTO THIS.

FIRST OF ALL, WE SHOULD SAY THAT 3,800 SOLDIERS FROM FORT STEWART, FROM THE -- MOST OF THEM FROM THE THIRD INFANTRY, FIRST ARMORED BRIGADE COMBAT TEAM ARE NOW BEING DEPLOYED TO GERMANY, PART OF A 12,000 TROOPS ADDITION OF FORCES THAT THE PRESIDENT HAS ORDERED SENT TO FIRST GERMANY AND THEN PERHAPS TO OTHER NATO ALIGNED COUNTRIES AS A RESPONSE TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN UKRAINE RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE FOLKS DOWN THERE SOUTHEAST GEORGIA AROUND FORT STEWART WHO MAY BE FAMILY MEMBERS OF THOSE WHO ARE BEING DEPLOYED.

BUT PATRICIA, LOOK, LET'S START BY -- WE'VE GOT TO PUT A POLITICAL LENS ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS AFTER ALL "POLITICAL REWIND."

TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU WROTE THIS MORNING AND LET'S USE THAT AS A BEGINNING OF OUR PLAYING INTO ALL OF THIS.

>> SO I WROTE THIS MORNING ABOUT THE RESPONSES THAT WE'VE SEEN FROM GEORGIA LEADERS AND GEORGIA CANDIDATES.

THEY HAVE HAD -- THEY VARIED QUITE A BIT, BUT TO ME A CRISIS LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY TESTS THE METAL OF THE LEADERS WE'VE ALREADY ELECTED AND IT REALLY TESTS SORT OF THE TENOR AND THE RESPONSE TO A CRISIS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE ASKING US TO ELECT THEM AS OUR NEXT LEADERS AND SO SOMEBODY LIKE GOVERNOR KEMP, I WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE SURPRISED.

HE WAS OUT WITH A STATEMENT BEFORE DAWN ON FRIDAY MORNING TALKING ABOUT NOT JUST THE INVASION BUT ALSO REALLY PUTTING THE BLAME SQUARELY ON VLADIMIR PUTIN, AND TALKING ABOUT WAYS THAT HE WOULD BE PREPARING -- WE HEARD FROM HIM LATER, TALKING ABOUT PREPARING THE STATE FOR POSSIBLE CYBERATTACKS, POSSIBLE INCREASES IN PRICES, POSSIBLE SUPPLY CHAIN DISRUPTION.

YOU DON'T EVEN THINK REALLY ABOUT A GOVERNOR HAVING TO BE IMPACTED BY AN INCURSION OVERSEAS, BUT HE CERTAINLY IS LEANING FORWARD AND PREPARING FOR THAT.

AS FAR AS CANDIDATES GO, WE'VE SEEN REPUBLICANS REALLY SPLITS INTO TWO CAMPS IT SEEMS TO ME.

THERE ARE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE BLAMING VLADIMIR PUTIN FOR THE INVASION THAT VLADIMIR PUTIN IS CONDUCTING SO YOU THINK ABOUT SOMEBODY LIKE CONGRESSMAN CARTER, CONGRESSMAN SCOTT, JODY HICE, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE ALREADY SITTING IN CONGRESS AND KNOW A LOT ABOUT THESE ISSUES, ESPECIALLY AUSTIN SCOTT WAS IN BRUSSELS THIS WEEK AT THE NATO ALLIANCE, SO THOSE ARE INFORMED, I THINK, REALLY NUANCED STRATEGIC RESPONSES.

THOSE WHO ARE MORE CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP, HERSCHEL WALKER WHO HAS THROUGH NO FAULT OF HIS OWN JUST NO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE REALLY AT ALL, SO HE IS CLEARLY RELYING ON GUIDANCE FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP.

SO INSTEAD OF BLAMING VLADIMIR PUTIN FOR THIS, THERE IS A CAMP OF REPUBLICANS IN THE STATE WHO ARE BLAMING JOE BIDEN, AND SAYING THIS WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IF PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS HEARD THE PRESIDENT THIS WEEK SAY THAT.

WE'VE HEARD THE PRESIDENT PRAISE VLADIMIR PUTIN FOR BEING SMART FOR GOING IN, FOR TAKING PROPERTY, FOR INVADING WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF RESISTANCE THE WAY THE PRESIDENT DESCRIBED IT, SO WE THINK WE LEARNED AN IMMENSE AMOUNT FROM LEADERS AND CANDIDATES IN A CRISIS LIKE THIS, AND I THINK THIS IS NO EXCEPTION.

>> ANDRA, TO PICK UP ON WHAT PATRICIA WAS SAYING, THIS NOTION -- DAVID PERDUE IS ONE OF THOSE WHO HAS NOW ISSUED A STATEMENT SAYING THIS WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED IF DONALD TRUMP WERE STILL PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

AND THERE'S SOMETHING KIND OF -- AND OF COURSE WE KNOW THERE ARE OTHER REPUBLICANS AS PATRICIA POINTS OUT WHO ARE ECHOING THAT SAME LINE, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE NOT MANY IN GEORGIA WHO HAVE PICKED UP ON TRUMP'S PRAISE OF VLADIMIR PUTIN, WHICH HAS BEEN A VERY DISORIENTING THING TO WATCH UNFOLD.

>> SO THERE'S A LOT THAT'S GOING ON HERE, AND IT'S NOT 100% COHERENT.

SO PART OF WHAT THE UNDERLYING THEME HERE IS HYPERPARTISANSHIP, AND SO THERE USED TO BE, YOU KNOW, THE STATEMENT THAT PARTISANSHIP ENDED AT THE SHORES OF THE UNITED STATES, AND SO WHEN INTERNATIONAL CRISES HAPPEN PEOPLE TENDED TO RALLY AROUND THE PRESIDENT, AND THERE WAS A CONSENSUS BETWEEN DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS THAT WE SHOULD PRESENT A UNITED FRONT.

IN A HYPER PARTISAN POLARIZED ERA THAT WE'RE IN NOW, THAT'S CLEARLY NOT THE CASE, AND SO WHEN YOU SEE SOME, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS WHO WILL SUPPORT UKRAINE BUT NOT NECESSARILY SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT, THAT'S WHERE THAT'S COMING IN, AND THEN THERE ARE THE DYED IN THE WOOL HYPER PARTISAN, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

IF JOE BIDEN IS FOR IT, THEY HAVE TO BE AGAINST IT WHETHER OR NOT IT ACTUALLY GOES INTO NATIONAL INTERESTS.

THE THING THAT'S REALLY TROUBLING ABOUT THIS IS TO LISTEN TO DONALD TRUMP.

SO THIS WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED UNDER DONALD TRUMP.

WEEK, DONALD TRUMP MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN CAHOOTS WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN AND MIGHT HAVE ACTUALLY HELPED FACILITATE IT, MAKE IT HAPPEN AT LEAST RHETORICALLY.

THAT'S TROUBLING.

THE FACT THAT HE MADE ANALOGS TO MEXICO AND THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY DO THE SAME THING TO SECURE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER, ALL OF A SUDDEN I HAD VISIONS IN MY HEAD OF HIM TRYING TO FIND SEPARATISTS TO TRY TO LIKE SAY THAT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO BE PART OF MEXICO ANYMORE, THEREFORE THE U.S. HAS THE RIGHT TO INVADE OR AT LEAST TO PUT A SECURITY FORCE IN THERE.

THEN THERE'S JUST THE LARGER ISSUE OF LYING, VIOLATING INTERNATIONAL LAW AND EXHIBITING AUTHORITARIAN TENDENCIES THAT I STILL FIND VERY TROUBLING THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL NOT FORCEFULLY COME OUT AGAINST AND REPUDIATE, AND I THINK HOW PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY REPUBLICAN VOTERS RECEIVE THIS WILL HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH HOW PARTISAN THEY WANT TO BE, AND HOW MUCH THEY ACTUALLY ARE SORT OF THINKING ABOUT THIS IN THE LIGHT OF HISTORY AND WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT GEOPOLITICS IN THAT REGION HISTORICALLY.

>> YEAH, YOU KNOW, RENEE, IT STRIKES ME THAT IT'S INTERESTING THAT WHEN A JODY HICE WHO PATRICIA MENTION ED A COUPLE OF MINUTES AGO, WHO HAS BEEN ONE OF THE PERPETRATORS AGAINST THE BIG LIE, WHO VOTED AGAINST CERTIFYING THE ELECTION RESULTS IN GEORGIA, WHEN JODY HICE DOES NOT ECHO DONALD TRUMP IN PRAISING VLADIMIR PUTIN, IN WHICH INSTEAD HE MAKES A STATEMENT IN SUPPORT OF OUR FORCES, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER CAN BE DONE TO STOP RUSSIA FROM MOVING FORWARD, THAT STRIKES ME AS A CAUTIONARY TALE IN TERMS OF WHAT OTHER REPUBLICANS OUT THERE OUGHT TO BE THINKING ABOUT.

AT A CERTAIN POINT, THE QUESTION IS IF YOU GET IN BED WITH TRUMP ON THIS ISSUE, ARE YOU GOING TO PAY A PRICE FOR IT DOWN THE LINE OR IS -- ARE YOU BULLET ARE PROOF NO MATTER WHAT BECAUSE TRUMP IS IN YOUR CORNER?

>> WELL, I THINK THAT TRUMP IS LOOKING AT THIS AS A REALITY SHOW.

THAT'S WHAT HE'S GOOD AT.

HE SPEAKS.

I PERSONALLY CANNOT BELIEVE THAT I'M HEARING ANYONE WHO WAS A FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES CALL PUTIN A GENIUS.

REALLY ALMOST ENDORSE WHAT'S GOING ON.

LOOK, I GREW UP HISPANIC IN SOUTHERN ARIZONA AT A TIME WHEN REAGAN RULED THE POLITICAL AIR WAVES, AND YOU KNOW, HIS RHETORIC, REAGAN'S PRO-DEMOCRACY, PRO-LIBERTY, AGAINST AUTHORITARIANISM, I KEEP THINKING WHAT WOULD MY LATE PARENTS THINK ABOUT TRUMP SAYING EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT REAGAN HAD BASICALLY BUILT THE CONTEMPORARY UNITED STATES FOR AND ABOUT, AND I JUST -- IT ASTOUNDS ME, YOU KNOW, AND HOW SCARY IT IS.

I DO THINK THAT THERE IS GOING REMOTELY FALLING INTO THE COLUMN OF WHERE TRUMP STANDS AND FOX NEWS, FOR THAT MATTER.

I MEAN, THE TALKING HEADS ON FOX NEWS ARE HOLDING PUTIN UP AS A SYMBOL OF STRENGTH WHO, YOU KNOW, SHARES THEIR VALUES, RACIST AUTHORITARIAN, HOMOPHOBIC, MEANWHILE THEYVILLE -- VILLAINIZE THE LEFT FOR CALLING OUT THEIR OWN RACISM, AUTHORITARIANISM.

I DO THINK AS THIS ESCALATES INTO THE WHAT THE WORLD ORDER IS GOING TO SHAPE UP, THERE ARE GOING TO BE THOSE WHO REGRET AT ALL STANDING BY WHAT SOME IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ARE DOING.

I DO COMMEND KEMP FOR DOING WHAT HE DID AND POINTING THE FINGER EXACTLY ON WHO IT SHOULD BE POINTED TOWARD AND THAT'S PUTIN.

YOU KNOW, HE PROVED DEFT IN THAT RESPECT.

I WONDER, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE DEMOCRAT GOVERNORTORIAL CANDIDATE ARE IN ALL OF THIS.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR WHERE STACEY ABRAMS IS, BUT WE HAVEN'T YET.

IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING, AND YES, I DO THINK THIS IS A TEST.

>> I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, YES, WE HAVE, STACEY ABRAMS DID, IN FACT, ISSUE A STATEMENT.

I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.

>> SORRY ABOUT THAT.

>> BUT SHE ISSUED A VERY STRONG STATEMENT SAYING WE CANNOT -- THAT PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT DEMOCRACY ARE ESSENTIALLY OUTRAGED BY WHAT'S HAPPENING.

>> I STAND CORRECTED.

>> NO, THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S FINE.

PATRICIA, LET ME JUST PUT A COUPLE OF FINISHING NOTES ON THIS WITH YOUR HELP HERE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OTHER SUBJECTS.

RENEE MENTIONS FOX NEWS.

TUCKER CARLSON FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS HAS BEEN ESSENTIALLY PROMOTING VLADIMIR PUTIN, AS RECENTLY AS WEDNESDAY NIGHT -- NOW THAT'S THE NIGHT BEFORE THE INVASION -- HE SAID, AND I'LL READ FROM MY MONITOR HERE, WHY DO DEMOCRATS WANT YOU TO HATE PUTIN?

HAS PUTIN SHIPPED EVERY MIDDLE CLASS JOB IN YOUR TOWN TO RUSSIA?

DID HE MANUFACTURE A WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC THAT WRECKED YOUR BUSINESS?

IS HE TEACHING YOUR KIDS TO EMBRACE RACIAL DISCRIMINATION?

IS HE MAKING FENTANYL?

DOES HE EAT DOGS?

AND PATRICIA, TO GO BACK TO WHAT ANDRA SAID, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN AMERICANS CAME TOGETHER AND UNDERSTOOD THE IMPORTANCE OF SUPPORTING THE LEADERSHIP OF THE COUNTRY IN THE FACE OF A GREAT CRISIS.

NOW, THAT CAN COME UNRAVELLED, IT CERTAINLY DID IN VIETNAM WHEN THE COUNTRY EVENTUALLY TURNED AGAINST IT.

IT DID IN THE IRAQI WAR, BUT WHEN THESE THINGS GET UNDERWAY, WE USUALLY STAND UNITED, AND IT'S REALLY -- IT'S REALLY MIND BOGGLING TO SEE A MAJOR CABLE NETWORK THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO WANT TO GET WITH THE PROGRAM, AT AND SOME OF HIS FRIENDS ON FOX.

>> YEAH, WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO STEP BACK HERE AWAY FROM TUCKER CARLSON'S -- I DON'T EVEN WANT TO CALL HIM TALKING POINTS, I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO TELL HIM TO SAY -- TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND UNDERSTAND THIS IS A MAJOR GROUND INVASION IN EUROPE THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO UPSET THE ENTIRE WORLD ORDER.

I THINK IT DESTABILIZES THE COUNTRY.

IT DESTABILIZES THE GLOBE.

IT PUTS THE QUESTION OF CHINA'S FUTURE INTO PLAY AS WELL.

THIS IS ALL DONE BY VLADIMIR PUTIN, AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CRITICIZING DONALD TRUMP -- SORRY, NOT DONALD TRUMP, BUT CRITICIZING JOE BIDEN AS BEING WEAK, THE GREATEST STRENGTH THAT ANY PRESIDENT HAS IS THE UNITY BEHIND HIM OF HUSBAND PRESIDENT, OF HIS COUNTRY RATHER, AND SO FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CRITICIZING HIM AS WEAK, IF THEY WOULD SUPPORT THE COUNTRY, IT WOULD BE THE FIRST AND FASTEST WAY TO AMERICAN PRESIDENT IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS, AND IN IS JUST AN INCREDIBLY TENSE, DANGEROUS TIME WITH PEOPLE'S LIVES ABSOLUTELY ON THE LINE AND THE FUTURE OF THE GLOBAL WORLD ORDER ON THE LINE, AND SO FOR TUCKER CARLSON TO BE USING RHETORIC LIKE THAT TO ME IS JUST TOTALLY UN-AMERICAN.

I DON'T REALLY USE THAT TERM VERY OFTEN, BUT I THINK IT'S THE ONLY WORLD FOR IT.

IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE LOYAL TO A PERSON OR A PRESIDENT OR HIS POLICIES, BUT YOU DO NEED TO SUPPORT THE COUNTRY IN A MOMENT LIKE THIS, AND I THINK IT'S JUST WILDLY IRRESPONSIBLE.

>> ANDRA.

>> YOU KNOW, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO SAY THIS, THAT TUCKER CARLSON IS THE FATHER COUGH LYNN OF OUR GENERATION AND IT NEEDS TO BE REPUDIATED, AND BUSINESSES NEED OR ADVERTISING ON FOX NEED TO RECONSIDER THEIR STANCE, AND AGAIN, REPUBLICANS OF GOODWILL NEED TO STAND UP AND SPEAK OUT THIS REGION NEED TO HAVE MORE PROMINENT VOICES AND A PLATFORM AND EXPLAIN WHY THAT IS NOISE, WHY IT IS VERY DANGEROUS NOISE AND INCREDIBLY ILL-INFORMED.

IT'S EASY TO SAY A BUNCH OF STUFF FOR KICKS BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'S FUNNY BUT PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE ON THE LINE AT THIS POINT.

THAT REMINDS US OF WHAT THE EXISTENTIAL THREAT IS.

THERE ARE NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN COME AROUND AND SAY A WHOLE BUVLG OF STUFF AND SOUND IRONIC.

IT NEVER WAS THE TIME, BUT IT'S SPECIAL NOT THE TIME NOW.

WE'RE GOING TO GET TO A BREAK, AND THEN MOVE ON TO OTHER SUBJECTS.

BASED ON WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, THERE ARE REPORTS THIS MORNING THAT SINCE THE RUSSIANS MOVED IN ON CHERNOBYL, THERE ARE TANKS THAT ROLLED IN, OTHER ARMORED VEHICLES, MONITORS HAVE SEEN A SIGNIFICANT RISE IN RADIOACTIVE PARTICLES IN THE AIR, DUST KICKED UP BY THOSE RUSSIANS MOVING IN.

SO THAT'S A TROUBLING AND CONCERNING FACTOR IN ALL OF THIS AS WELL.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO THIS.

LET'S GET TO OUR FIRST BREAK OF THE SHOW.

WHEN WE COME BECOME, WE'RE GOING TO PICK UP A STORY THAT JUST BROKE ON THE WIRES, IF YOU'RE LISTENING TO US DURING THE 9:00 A.M.

HOUR, PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS APPARENTLY MADE HIS CHOICE FOR HIS NOMINEE FOR THE SUPREME COURT.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AND A LOT MORE IN JUST A MOMENT.

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♪♪ >>> WELCOME BACK TO "POLITICAL REWIND," TODAY RENEE ALEGRIA, ANDRA GILLASPIE, AND OF COURSE PATRICIA MURPHY, AJC POLITICAL REPORTER AND COLUMNIST JOIN ME.

ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, I WANT TO GET YOUR QUICK RESPONSE TO THE FACT THAT THE WIRES HAVE JUST MOVED THE STORY, AND I'LL READ "THE NEW YORK TIMES" VERSION OF IT.

PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS SELECTED JUDGE KETANJI BROWN JACKSON AS HIS NOMINEE FOR THE SUPREME COURT.

TWO PEOPLE FAMILIAR WITH HIS DECISION SAID THAT CHOOSING A WELL-REGARDED FEDERAL APPEALS COURT JUDGE IF CONFIRMED WOULD MAKE HISTORY BY BECOMING THE FIRST BLACK WOMAN TO SERVE AS A JUSTICE.

ANDRA, WE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME REPUBLICANS, NOT ALL OF THEM, WHO HAVE ATTACKED BIDEN FOR WANTING TO -- FOR SAYING HE'D NOMINATE AN AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN, CALLING IT AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY HIRE, BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THIS IS A WELL-THOUGHT OF JUDGE AND REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO HAVE A VERY HARD TIME FIGURING OUT IF THEY WANT TO ATTACK THIS NOMINATION, HOW TO DO IT WITHOUT MAKING THEMSELVES LOOK PRETTY OUT OF THE MAINSTREAM.

ANDRA.

>> YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT WAS ALWAYS THE CHALLENGE, PROFESSIONAL BLACK WOMAN, SHE'S BEEN CALLED AN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION HIRE BEFORE AND KNOWS HOW TO NAVIGATE THAT, AND SO WE JUST HAVE TO CALL THAT OUT FOR THE RACISM THAT IT IS AND SORT OF UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF IT.

PEOPLE WEREN'T SAYING THAT OVER 30 YEARS AGO WHEN CLARENCE THOMAS WAS NOMINATED TO THE COURT CLEARLY AN AFRICAN AMERICAN TO REPLACE AN AFRICAN AMERICAN TO PRESERVE REPRESENTATION, IT'S OKAY TO SAY THAT, AND I THINK BY CHOOSING JUDGE JACKSON WHO IS OBVIOUSLY IMMINENTLY QUALIFIED WHO HAS MADE IT THROUGH THIS JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, ALREADY THIS YEAR WHO IS IN THE STEPPING-STONE POSITION TO MAKE IT INTO THE SUPREME COURT BY SERVING ON THE U.S. -- ON THE D.C.

CIRCUIT SORT OF IN THE COURT OF APPEALS, RIGHT, SHE CLEARLY IS QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB.

I DARE ANYBODY TO SAY ANYTHING AGAINST THAT.

I THINK THIS IS ALSO A SAFE CHOICE.

SHE'S VETTED.

SHE'S BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS BEFORE.

SHE WAS A FINALIST FOR THE SEAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOW HELD, THAT MERRICK GARLAND DIDN'T GET.

THIS IS SOMEBODY WHO WE SHOULDN'T EXPECT ANY SURPRISES FROM, I THINK THAT THIS WAS A SOUND CHOICE, AND SO I THINK CONVENTIONAL WISDOM PREVAILS HERE FOR ALL THE REASONS WE THOUGHT IT WOULD.

>> PATRICIA, ASIDE FROM THE CHANCES OF BEING GOOD, THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMEONE WHO WILL ADD A LOT TO THE COURT, WHAT ABOUT POLITICS OF THIS?

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN IN TERMS OF JOE BIDEN AS HE DEALS WITH THE LOWEST APPROVAL RATINGS HE'S EVER HAD IN HIS TENURE, 41 SOME PERCENT.

HOW MUCH GOOD DOES THIS DO HIM PERSONALLY AS PRESIDENT?

>> IT SHOULD DO HIM A LOT OF GOOD, AND IT SHOULD DO HIM A LOT OF GOOD WITH THE SAME PEOPLE HE REALLY NEEDS TO BOOST ENTHUSIASM FROM, WHICH ARE BLACK FEMALE VOTERS AND BLACK WOMEN HAVE NEVER HAD ONE OF THEIR OWN ON THE SUPREME COURT.

IT'S JUST NEVER HAPPENED.

A REALLY HISTORIC MOMENT, I LOT OF PEOPLE TO SEE THAT KIND OF REPRESENTATION ON THE COURT, AND IT'S SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THOSE SPACES AS A PART OF THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM FOR PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM TO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN IT AND JUST TO BEGIN TO SEE FOR EVERYBODY TO BE ABLE TO SEE SOMEBODY LIKE THEMSELVES AS A PART OF THE JUDICIAL PROCESS AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL.

I THINK IT'S CRUCIALLY IMPORTANT.

IT ALSO COULD GIVE BIDEN JUST A NICE TIDY WIN AFTER A REALLY ROUGH COUPLE OF MONTHS, ALMOST AN ENTIRE YEAR OF BEING BOGGED DOWN IN A LOT OF REALLY TOUGH HEADLINES.

KETANJI BROWN JACKSON GOT THROUGH THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND THE SENATE JUST EIGHT MONTHS AGO, AND SO THIS SHOULD BE AN EASY WIN.

IT'S HARD TO SEE WHAT SHE COULD HAVE DONE IN THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS THAT WOULD GIVE THESE THREE REPUBLICAN SENATORS A REASON TO VOTE AGAINST HER IN THIS CASE.

>> YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED TO POINT OUT, RENEE, THAT THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE BALANCE OF THE COURT, SINCE SHE WILL REPLACE STEPHEN CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY ON THE COURT.

BUT AGAIN, AS ANDRA AND PATRICIA SAY, THE SYMBOLISM OF APPOINTING, NOMINATING A BLACK WOMAN TO THE COURT AND THEN THE CONTRIBUTIONS SHE CAN MAKE TO THE COURT ARE IMPORTANT REGARDLESS OF THE LEANINGS OF THE COURT POLITICALLY.

>> YEAH, IT WON'T CHANGE THE BALANCE CONSERVATIVE, NOT CONSERVATIVE ON THE COURT, BUT HAVING GONE THROUGH WATCHING SOTOMAYOR BECOME A SUPREME COURT JUDGE, IT WAS SO EMOTIONAL FOR THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY TO WATCH ONE OF OUR OWN UP THERE, YOU KNOW, AND ONE OF OUR OWN SHINE WITH INTELLIGENCE, WITH PRIDE, I MEAN, HER DISSENTS, HER OPINIONS, THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE PASSED AROUND IN HISPANIC LEADER CIRCLES AS THIS OF PRIDE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY, REALLY FOR ALL OF AMERICA.

YOU KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING WHO HAS DONE WHAT THEY DO, PAID THEIR DUES, HAS PROVEN THEIR INTELLIGENCE, ET CETERA, AND WILL GET A DESERVED SEAT ON THE SUPREME COURT.

THEY'RE BETTER REFLECTING AMERICA AS A WHOLE.

SO I- YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING, ALWAYS IS, RIGHT, SENATE CONFIRMATION HEARING, AND THAT WILL BE NEWS, AND PEOPLE WILL TUNE IN, AND I CAN'T WAIT TO WATCH HER, YOU KNOW, HANDLE THE QUESTIONS LIKE WE KNOW SHE CAN IN THE SAME WAY SOTOMAYOR DID AND HAVE THOSE WHO ARE FANS OF JUST WATCHING HARD WORK BE REWARDED, YOU KNOW, JUST BEAM WITH PRIDE.

>> PATRICIA, BEFORE WE MOVER ON, I THINK THERE'S ONE OTHER INTERESTING ELEMENT ABOUT THIS ANNOUNCEMENT THIS MORNING.

HERE WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF LITERALLY A GLOBAL CRISIS BECAUSE OF UKRAINE.

THE PRESIDENT HAS SPENT AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME WORKING ON THE ISSUE, SPEAKING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT AMERICA'S RESPONSE TO WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND YET, AND YET, THIS MORNING HE SIGNALED THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO DISTRACT FROM OTHER BUSINESS.

THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THIS WHITE HOUSE AND FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW TO THE COUNTRY.

SO HE GOES AHEAD AND ANNOUNCES THIS NOMINATION, WHICH STRIKES ME AS BEING A VERY SMART WAY TO SAY WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT WE MUST DEAL WITH, YES?

>> YES.

IT ALSO REALLY IS A FNGS OF THE SENATE CALENDAR, GETTING ANYBODY THROUGH THE JUDICIARY PROCESS TAKES SEVERAL WEEKS.

WON'T GET IT SCHEDULED FOR A VOTE, BUT YOU HAVE TO ALLOW FOR UNANTICIPATED DELAYS, AND YOU HAVE TO ALLOW FOR ANYTHING UNEXPECTED TO COME BACK AND TRY IT AGAIN.

YOU JUST CAN'T LEAVE THIS TO THE VERY END, AND YET THE CLOSER THEY GET TO ELECTION DAY, THE HARDER IT IS TO GET SOMETHING BIG THROUGH THE SENATE, AND HE'S ALREADY OUTSIDE OF THE WINDOW WHEN DEMOCRATS THOUGHT HE WOULD HAVE MADE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ANYWAY, SO I THINK BEFORE THINGS IN UKRAINE DESCEND -- WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN UKRAINE, JUST TO GO AHEAD AND GET THIS ONE PIECE OF BUSINESS DONE, GET IT ON THE CALENDAR.

GET IT MOVING FORWARD, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING HE NEEDED TO DO.

>> WELL, TO ADD JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A TWIST TO THIS, IT'S HARD THE CLOSER YOU GET TO ELECTION DAY UNLESS YOU ARE MAJORITY LEADER MITCH McCONNELL WHO WANTS TO GET AMY CONEY BARRETT THROUGH THE SENATE CONFIRMATION PROCESS JUST WEEKS BEFORE THE 2020 ELECTION.

WE CAN'T FORGET THAT THAT TOOK PLACE, PATRICIA.

>> YES, BUT IT WAS CONTROVERSIAL.

>> OH, SURE.

>> AND DEMOCRATS WERE FURIOUS, ABSOLUTELY LIVID, AND THAT WAS ABOUT 90% OF THEIR COMPLAINT IS THAT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING, YOU KNOW, SO AND ONCE THE MIDTERMS COME AND GO, THEN YOU GET INTO AN ENTIRE NEW PRECEDENT THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE SET TO SAY, WELL, YOU MIGHT BE A LAME DUCK TO HAVE ANOTHER NOMINATION TO THE BENCH.

I THINK IT'S SMART.

ONE FUN FACT ABOUT THE POSSIBLY FUTURE JUSTICE, SHE'S RELATED BY A MARRIAGE TO PAUL RYAN, THE FORMER SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE, WHICH I THINK IS A FUN TWIST, AND SO HE'S PUT A STATEMENT OUT ABOUT HER THAT HE IS OBVIOUSLY, ENORMOUSLY FOND OF HER, LOVES HER.

SOMETIMES THEY DIFFER ON THEIR POLITICS, BUT THEY ARE, IN FACT, FAMILY, AND SO I KNOW HE'LL BE WATCHING IT CAREFULLY.

>> HERE'S ANOTHER FUN FACT THAT WAS POINTED OUT TO ME, HER GRANDPARENTS ARE FROM GEORGIA.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE, BUT WE'LL FIND THAT OUT, AND MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE MORE ABOUT HER BACKGROUND IN SHOWS TO COME.

>>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON.

PATRICIA, LET ME READ TO YOU FROM THE LEAD TO, I THINK IT'S YESTERDAY'S JOLT OR MAYBE TWO DAYS AGO.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS STEPPING UP HIS SUPPORT FOR HIS CANDIDATES.

SO MUCH SO THAT HIS MAR-A-LAGO RESORT IS STARTING TO FEEL LIKE JUST ANOTHER STOP ON THE GEORGIA CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

SO HE'S GOT FUND-RAISING EVENTS.

WE KNOW MARCH 16th HE'S DOING A FUND-RAISING EVENT FOR DAVID PERDUE.

HE'S ADDED ONE FOR VERNON JONES, RIGHT, AND HERSCHEL WALKER'S BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME AS RECENTLY AS JUST THIS WEEK AT MAR-A-LAGO, CORRECT?

>> THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

HERSCHEL WALKER WAS THERE FOR A FUNDRAISER ON WEDNESDAY.

HE WILL BE BACK APPARENTLY NEXT WEEK FOR THE FIRST ANNUAL GOLF MAYBE LIKE FIRST AMERICA GOLF INVITATIONAL, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE, SO -- BUT THE POINT IS HERSCHEL WALKER IS SCHEDULED TO BE BACK IN MAR-A-LAGO, AND THEN TRUMP HAS SCHEDULED THESE NEXT TWO FUNDRAISERS AT MAR-A-LAGO.

WHAT I THINK IS CRAZY ABOUT THESE IS THE CAMPAIGNS HAVE TO PAY THE CATERING AND RENTAL FEES WHEN THEY GO TO MAR-A-LAGO, SO THERE'S NOTHING CHEAP AT MAR-A-LAGO.

THERE'S NOTHING FOR FREE AT MAR-A-LAGO.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> ALSO, A FAVORITE ACTIVITY OF MINE IS GOING THROUGH PEOPLE'S DISCLOSURES AND REALIZING THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS NOT GIVEN ONE DOLLAR OF HIS OWN MONEY TO ANY OF THESE CANDIDATES NOR HAVE ANY OF THE TRUMP FAMILY, WHICH I JUST THINK IS ALSO AN INTERESTING TWIST ON DOING THIS.

IT IS CRUCIAL FOR THESE TRUMP CANDIDATES TO GET IN FRONT OF TRUMP FRIENDLY DONORS.

THEY NEED THAT MONEY AND THEY NEED IT QUICKLY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL IN PRIMARIES COMING UP IN MAY, SO THEY NEED TO START THINKING MONEY VERY QUICKLY, AND I AM CERTAIN THAT PART OF THE PITCH TO THESE CANDIDATES AND DONALD TRUMP MADE A PITCH TO EVERY ONE OF THESE CANDIDATES TO CHALLENGE SITTING MEMBERS OR SITTING OFFICIALS IN GEORGIA, WAS, HEY, LISTEN, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.

MONEY'S NOT GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, SO THIS IS PART OF HOPEFULLY ON THEIR PART TRYING TO MAKE MONEY NOT A PROBLEM.

>> RENEE, I DON'T HAVE THE LATEST TOTALS BUT TRUMP IS SITTING ON A POT OF MONEY THAT'S WORTH 150 MILLION, MAYBE MORE AT THIS POINT THAT HE'S RAISED AND AS PATRICIA POINTS OUT, IT'S NOT GOING OUT TO THESE CANDIDATES HE SUPPORTS RIGHT NOW.

BUT YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION BECOMES IS TRUMP LOSING ANY OF HIS MOJO IN TERMS OF CANDIDATES HE'S BACKING?

THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME STATES WHERE THAT'S THE CASE.

THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IT'S TRUE IN GEORGIA OR NOT.

>> YEAH, IT'S -- WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIND OUT FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS WHETHER THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, BUT I DO THINK AS YOU POINT OUT, VERY INTERESTING THAT HE'S JUST LOADING UP HIS COFFERS WITH MONEY AND DONATIONS, YOU KNOW, IT'S HIS M.O.

HE RUNS A BUSINESS.

RIGHT NOW HIS BUSINESS IS THE BUSINESS OF TRUMP POLITICAL.

YOU KNOW, WHEN HE CAME OUT WITH -- WITH THE TRUTH APP AND HOW THAT HAS HAD SOME PROBLEMS EVERYONE'S KIND OF THINKING HOW IS HE -- HOW IS HE CONNECTING WHAT HE DOES ON THE TECH ENTREPRENEUR BUSINESS SIDE WITH HIS POLITICS WITH DONATIONS AND HOW IS HE GOING TO ADEQUATELY DISBURSE THAT.

AS YOU POINTED OUT, HE HAS NOT HIMSELF.

SO IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN HOW HIS INFLUENCE IS GOING TO AFFECT THE MIDTERMS, PARTICULARLY HERE IN GEORGIA.

I DO THINK THAT IN THE LAST 48 HOURS HE'S GIVEN A LOT OF FOLKS WHO HAVE UNSUBSCRIBED FROM THE TRUMP TRAIN MORE AMMUNITION TO STAND AGAINST AND HAVE NOT INFLUENCE THEIR DECISIONS AND THEIR VOTE.

>> ANDRA, TO WHAT EXTENT CAN DONALD TRUMP'S ENDORSEMENT AND APPEARANCES HERE IN GEORGIA, WHICH HE SAYS HE'S GOING TO BE MAKING PUSH DAVID PERDUE ACROSS GOVERNOR'S RACE, PUSH VERNON JONES INTO THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION IN THE TENTH DISTRICT IN WHAT'S ALREADY A VERY CROWDED FIELD IN WHICH THERE ARE ALSO OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE MUCH BETTER KNOWN IN THE DISTRICT?

WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON ALL THAT?

>> SO I MEAN, I THINK ULTIMATELY THIS IS STILL AN EMPIRICAL QUESTION THAT PEOPLE ARE ACTIVELY THINKING ABOUT AND TESTING, MY HYPOTHESES ARE THAT TRUMP'S ENDORSEMENTS NEVER MATTERED AS MUCH AS WE THOUGHT THEY DID, AND IF THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY MAY WANE.

I CAN'T SAY THAT DEFINITIVELY.

IF YOU'RE A STRATEGIC CANDIDATE AND YOU MAKE POOR DECISIONS, DONALD TRUMP ISN'T GOING TO BE ABLE TO SAVE YOU.

NOBODY WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SAVE YOU IN THOSE INSTANCES.

I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME OF THAT COME OUT IN THE WASH.

THE THING THAT GETS ME SORT OF ABOUT THIS, RIGHT, BECAUSE PEOPLE CLEARLY DON'T SEE THAT DONALD TRUMP'S CLAIM TO FAME HAS ACTUALLY BEEN IN BRANDING AND SELF-PROMOTION AND MARKETING, POLITICS, BUT REALLY THIS IS ALL ABOUT MARKETING DONALD TRUMP AND JUST COMING UP WITH DIFFERENT REVENUE STREAMS, AND SOONER OR LATER PEOPLE ARE GOING TO REALIZE THAT THIS IS LUCY WITH THE FOOTBALL.

THEY KISS THE RING, AND THEY GO RUN FOR THE KICK LIKE CHARLIE BROWN, RIGHT, AND THEY END UP ON THEIR BACKS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH LEARNING IS GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO REALIZE THAT THEY ARE NOT GETTING AS MUCH OUT OF THIS AS HE IS GETTING OUT OF IT.

THERE JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A LOT OF RECIPROCITY.

PEOPLE ARE RATIONALIZING THAT MAR-A-LAGO AND THE TRUMP NAME HAS LIKE SOME IN KIND VALUE, AND I IMAGINE THAT IT DOES, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN YOU ACTUALLY ARE HAVING TO DO FEE FOR SERVICE FOR THE PERSON WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE HELPING YOU OUT BECAUSE YOU'RE BUILDING THEIR POLITICAL EMPIRE, SOMETHING TELLS ME THIS IS A REALLY UNEQUAL RELATIONSHIP.

ONE DAY SOMEBODY WILL GET THIS AND ACTUALLY SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT.

>> PATRICIA?

>> WELL, I HAVE BASICALLY SAID IT ALL.

WHEN YOU GO TO THESE EVENTS FOR COUNTY REPUBLICAN PARTY, THE ENERGY IS WITH THE TRUMP LANE.

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO GO TO THOSE MORNING BREAKFASTS ON A SATURDAY.

THEY COME OUT IN HUGE NUMBERS IF SOMEBODY LIKE MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE IS THE SPECIAL GUEST.

SHE GETS STANDING OVATIONS WHEREVER SHE GOES.

THIS IS A REAL FACTOR IN REPUBLICAN PARTY POLITICS.

IF DONALD TRUMP WERE TO DISAPPEAR TOMORROW, I DON'T THINK THAT SENTIMENT AND THAT FERVOR FOR THAT KIND OF POLITICS IS GOING TO DISAPPEAR EITHER, AND SO I THINK THAT WILL BE A REAL TEST FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OVER THE NEXT ONE YEAR, TWO YEARS, FIVE YEARS, AND TEN YEARS.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A REPUBLICAN, AND DOES IT MEAN TO BE LOYAL TO DONALD TRUMP.

DOES IT MEAN TO CONTINUE HIS POLICIES EVEN WHEN HE'S OFF THE STAGE AND HAS IT JUST SO FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED FROM THE CONCEPT OF BEING A TRADITIONAL CONSERVATIVE THAT THERE'S NO LONGER ROOM IN THIS PARTY FOR THAT KIND OF PERSON GOING FORWARD?

>> ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO THIS.

LET'S GET OUR FINAL BREAK OF THE SHOW OUT OF THE WAY NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO TALK ABOUT WHEN WE COME BACK ON "POLITICAL REWIND" INCLUDING A COUPLE OF ITEMS FROM DOWN AT THE STATE CAPITAL AND SOME INTERESTING NEWS OUT OF GEORGIA SENATE RACE, RAPHAEL WARNOCK SENATE RACE, AND WE'LL DO THAT AND MORE AFTER THESE MESSAGES.

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>>> WELCOME BACK TO "POLITICAL REWIND."

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I TRY TO BREAK DOWN WHAT I THINK KIND OF THE TOP STORIES OF THE WEEK IN GEORGIA POLITICS, AND THEN FIND A WAY TO ADD SOMETHING THAT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHTNESS OR SOME HUMOR AROUND IT BECAUSE WE ALL NEED THAT.

SO WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU JOIN US FOR OUR NEWS LETTER.

ALL RIGHT.

PATRICIA, HERSCHEL WALKER MADE A STATEMENT THAT WE'VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT FOR A MINUTE.

HE'S MAD AT BOTH DAVID PERDUE AND BRIAN KEMP AND DOESN'T PLAN ON ENDORSING EITHER OF THEM.

HE TOLD A CROWD UP AT THE UNIVERSITY OF NORTH GEORGIA THIS, I DON'T SUPPORT EITHER ONE OF THEM.

AYE MAD AT BOTH OF THEM.

I SPEAK THE TRUTH AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY, AND HE GOES ON AND SAYS I'VE KNOWN KEMP SINCE I WAS 16.

I'VE KNOWN PERDUE SINCE I WAS 19.

WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS LET'S BRING THIS PARTY TOGETHER.

WE'VE GOT TO BRING THE PARTY TOGETHER.

SO HERSCHEL WALKER IS NOT GOING TO WEIGH IN ON THE GOVERNOR'S RACE.

I UNDERSTAND WHY HE WAS UPSET WITH DAVID PERDUE, BUT THERE'S NO QUESTION WHY BRIAN KEMP WAS GOING TO RUN FOR RE-ELECTION.

NOT QUITE SURE WHAT HE'S DONE WRONG HERE.

>> I'D LIKE KNOW HOW HE'S KNOWN DAVID PERDUE SINCE HE WAS 19 AS AN ASIDE.

WE HAVE TALKED TO LOTS OF REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS PRIMARY.

I'VE NEVER TALKED TO A REPUBLICAN WHO SAID HE OR SHE WILL NOT VOTE FOR EITHER PERDUE OR KEMP IN THE PRIMARY.

THAT IS A NEW ONE ON ME.

THIS IS ALSO AUDIO THAT WAS SENT TO US, BY THE WAY, HE DID NOT KNOW THAT THERE WERE -- THAT I THINK THESE COMMENTS WOULD BE REPEATED.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE WOULD HAVE CARED OR NOT.

IT'S CERTAINLY NOT ANYTHING THAT WE'VE HEARD HIM SAY, BUT IT REALLY DOES GET TO THE FACT THAT HERSCHEL WALKER BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN A WHOLE LOT OF HIM ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, I THINK HE IS A QUITE UNPREDICTABLE CANDIDATE AND KIND OF AN UNKNOWABLE CANDIDATE IN A LOT OF WAYS FOR REPUBLICANS.

HE DOES SAY THINGS THAT ARE OFF THE WALL, THAT ARE UNEXPECTED, THAT MIGHT BE MISREAD WHEN IN PRINT, AND SO I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A WILD CARD AND TO SAY THAT YOU DON'T SUPPORT EITHER THE GOVERNOR OR THE FORMER SENATOR CHALLENGING HIM RIGHT NOW IS UNUSUAL.

IT'S MORE THAN A LITTLE UNORTHODOX.

THE POINT IS HE WANTS THE PARTY TO UNITE, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT ALL REPUBLICANS WANT.

>> I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE.

>> SO ANDRA AND RENEE, LET ME ASK YOU TO COMMENT ON SOMETHING THAT PATRICIA WROTE THIS WEEK.

PATRICIA, WE KNOW THAT HERSCHEL WALKER MAY VERY WELL BE RUNNING AGAINST RAPHAEL WARNOCK IN THE GENERAL ELECTION.

HE'S CERTAINLY LEADING IN ALL THE POLLS OF REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES RIGHT NOW, BUT PATRICIA BASICALLY WROTE THIS WEEK THAT THE RADICAL SOCIALIST, ANDRA, WHO REPUBLICANS LIKE KELLY LOEFFLER PAINTED THE PICTURE OF IN TERMS OF RAFAEL WARNOCK HAS NOT EMERGED SINCE HE BECAME A MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE.

TALK ABOUT THE KIND OF ROAD THAT WARNOCK HAS TAKEN FOR HIMSELF UP THERE.

>> WELL, I MEAN, THE REASON WHY THE RADICAL SOCIALIST DIDN'T EMERGE IS BECAUSE HE NEVER CONSTRUCTION, THAT WAS JUST USING REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS AND NOT APPLYING THEM IN A VERY DEFT WAY IN A MORE LOCAL STATE CONTEST.

SO WHEN KELLY LOEFFLER WENT AFTER RAPHAEL WARNOCK, SHE WAS JUST USING NATIONAL TALKING POINTS.

IT'S A REFLECTION OF ALL POLITICS, STATE AND LOCAL POLITICS HAVE BECOME NATIONALIZED IN AN ERA OF HYPER PARTICIPATE PARTISANSHIP AND POLARIZATION.

THEN IT WORKED RIGHT BECAUSE HE'S AN AFRICAN AMERICAN CANDIDATE, RIGHT, AND SO PEOPLE ALREADY THINK BECAUSE THEY DO KNOW ON ECONOMIC ISSUES BLACKS TEND TO BE LEFT OF CENTER, RIGHT, THAT YOU CAN NOW LABEL EVERYBODY AND IT REALLY STICKS TO BLACK VOTES.

WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THEABRAMS, THE PRAGMATIC STACEY ABRAMS WHO HAS BEEN NATIONALIZED INTO A BOOGEYMAN, WHO IS A STEP AWAY FROM AOC, WHICH IS NOT TRUE.

THAT MANIFESTED ITSELF.

THE OTHER PART OF THE 2020 CAMPAIGN WAS KELLY LOEFFLER TRYING TO PORTRAY HIM AS A RADICAL BY TIEING HIM TO JEREMIAH WRIGHT BECAUSE OF THE CONNECTION BETWEEN BLACK MINISTERS AND THEOLOGY, AND THOSE WERE HEAVILY RACIALLY LADEN, AND WARNOCK TRIED TO CONTEST THAT WITH PUPPIES, WITH CHRISTMAS LIGHTS AND OTHER THINGS TO TRY TO DERACIALIZE HIMSELF AND MAKE HIM APPEAR LESS THREATENING BECAUSE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BLACK CANDIDATES, PARTICULARLY BLACK MALE CANDIDATES HAVE TO FACE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

SO I THINK THE RAPHAEL WARNOCK THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE SENATE IS THE RAPHAEL WARNOCK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE EXPECTED TO SEE, YOU KNOWS BASED ON THE THINGS THAT HE SAID ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, BASED ON SORT OF HIS WORK AS A PASTOR, HIS INVOLVEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.

HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN SURPRISING, BUT THE NARRATIVES HAVE LOOKED DIFFERENT BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HIS CIVIL RIGHTS BACKGROUND AND HIS RACE TO TRY TO PORTRAY HIM AS SOMETHING THAT HE REALLY NEVER WAS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

>> RENEE, BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE GENERAL ELECTION ONCE THE REPUBLICANS HAVE PICKED THEIR CANDIDATE, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS CLOSELY WATCHED SENATE RACE IN THE COUNTRY.

IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO BE PERHAPS THE BEST FUNDED OF ALL SENATE RACES, RAPHAEL WARNOCK HAS ALREADY RAISED MORE MONEY THAN ANY OTHER INCUMBENT UP FOR RE-ELECTION THIS YEAR, AND HERSCHEL WALKER, I THINK, IS HAVING THE SAME KIND OF SUCCESS AS A CHALLENGER IN A U.S. SENATE RACE.

THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EXTRAORDINARY CONTEST AND REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN TAKE THIS SEAT BACK BUT ESPECIALLY GIVEN JOE BIDEN'S LOW APPROVAL RATINGS, IF THOSE DON'T TURN AROUND, THEY FEEL EVEN MORE CONFIDENT.

SO TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.

>> YEAH, WELL, MONEY'S GOING TO POUR INTO THE STATE, AND THE WORLD IS GOING TO BE WATCHING GEORGIA AGAIN LIKE IT DID DURING THE PRESIDENTIAL, LIKE IT DID DURING THE RUNOFF.

AS WITH RESPECT TO SENATOR WARNOCK, YOU KNOW, JUST GEORGIA ELECTED MAN WHO IS VOTING IN THE WAY THAT FOLKS WHO HAVE KNOWN HIM EXPECTED HIM TO.

FANCY THAT, RIGHT?

THE CHARACTERIZATIONS AND HOW HE WAS PORTRAYED DURING THE LOEFFLER CAMPAIGN WAS -- THEY ARE PROVEN TO BE JUST UNTRUE.

THEY'RE LIES.

SO HE'S GOING TO HAVE AN OBVIOUS ADVANTAGE HERE OVER WALKER BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIM.

HE'S NOT OPENED UP ACCESS TO INTERVIEWS.

HE DOES HAVE A QUESTIONABLE PAST, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LAW, WITH DOMESTIC ABUSE APPARENTLY.

I MEAN, THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT NOT ONLY WHERE HE STANDS ON ISSUES BUT HOW HIS PAST DOES NOT REFLECT GEORGIA'S FUTURE, RIGHT?

SO YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE DEBATES, HOPEFULLY THEY WILL HAPPEN AND WE WILL SEE WHO STANDS ON WHAT AND HOW THEY MAKE THE APPEAL TO GEORGIA VOTERS.

WARNOCK IS IN A GOOD POSITION BECAUSE OF HIS TRACK RECORD FROM THE SHORT TIME HE'S BEEN IN THE SENATE.

IT REFLECTS HIS LONG-STANDING CITIZENSHIP HERE AS A GEORGIAN, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO REALLY RESPOND TO.

>> PATRICIA, IF YOU DON'T MIND MY READING BACK YOUR OWN WORDS TO YOU, HERE'S ONE PARAGRAPH FROM YOUR COLUMN.

WARNOCK HAS BECOME A RELIABLE VOTE FOR SENATE DEMOCRATS, A METICULOUSLY TAILORED HIGH PROFILE PROGRESSIVE AT THE MAINSTREAM OF HIS PARTY WHO STILL LOOKS FOR BIPARTISAN MEASURES TO JOIN WHEN HE CAN.

RECENTLY HE INTRODUCED OR JOINED A SERIES OF BILLS TO ADDRESS POCKETBOOK ISSUES LIKE THE PRICE OF GAS, MEDICINE, AND OTHER NECESSITIES.

>> YEAH, THESE ARE JUST KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES THAT I THINK GEORGIANS ACROSS THE STATE IN SOME CASES ARE REALLY STRUGGLING WITH.

BUT I REALLY WANTED TO CHALLENGE THE IMAGE THAT WAS PORTRAYED OF RAPHAEL WARNOCK, BECAUSE HE HAD NEVER BEEN IN ELECTED OFFICE, I THINK HE WAS A BLANK SLATE IN A LOT OF WAYS, AND SO REPUBLICANS REALLY TRIED AS ANDRA SAID TO MAKE HIM SCARY, TO MAKE HIM UNTRUSTWORTHY, TO CALL HIM A MARXIST SYMPATHIZER, RADICAL LIBERAL RAPHAEL WARNOCK WE HEARD SO MANY TIMES ON THAT DEBATE IT ENDED UP ONSET MYERS LATE NIGHT TV SHOW.

IT REALLY WAS JUST RIDICULOUS AT A CERTAIN POINT.

SO I WANTED TO SORT OF GET A REPORT CARD OUT THERE TO SAY HE IS A LIBERAL.

HE IS PROGRESSIVE.

HE ALSO FOCUSES ON STRATEGIC TAILORED INITIATIVES IN A WAY THAT I THINK IS REALLY SMART POLITICS FOR GEORGIANS WHO ARE REALLY STRUGGLING WITH PRICES RIGHT NOW.

SO I THINK HE'S BEEN MUCH MORE OF A STRATEGIC MAIN STREAM DEMOCRAT THAN HE WAS EVER PORTRAYED TO BE AND THE ATTACK ON HIM I THOUGHT WAS FUNDAMENTALLY UNFAIR, AND NOW A YEAR LATER WE CAN LAY DOWN HIS RECORD AND SEE THAT IT WAS ALSO INACCURATE.

>> I MENTIONED BEFORE THE BREAK THAT THERE WERE SOME LEGISLATIVE ISSUES, BUT I WANT TO TURN TO A DIFFERENT TOPIC IF YOU DON'T MIND.

HERE'S WHAT I'LL SAY ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE ISSUE.

THE STATE SENATE HAS NOW PASSED A MEASURE THAT WILL FORCE TRANSGENDER ATHLETES IN SCHOOLS TO COMPETE ACCORDING TO THE GENDER ON THEIR BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

IT'S HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER PASSED IN THE LEGISLATURE, NEVER GOTTEN THIS FAR BEFORE.

THIS IS AN ELECTION YEAR, AND SO WE'LL LOOK AT IT NEXT WEEK AS THIS THING IS STILL MOVING FORWARD IN THE LEGISLATURE.

BUT THE REASON I WANT TO PUT THAT TO THE SIDE, IS ANDRA GILLASPIE, I WANT YOU TO GIVE US A REPORT FROM THE FRONT LINES.

YOU WENT TO AN EVENT WITH NATE SILVER, THE FOUNDER OF 538, AND ONE OF THE GREAT DATA CRUNCHERS AND ELECTION PROGNOSTICATORS, AND YOU WENT THERE TO HEAR HIS THOUGHTS ON HOW THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS ARE SHAPING UP, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE FASCINATING TO HEAR WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.

NATE SILVER LAST NIGHT AT EMORY UNIVERSITY, AND I GOT A CHANCE TO ASK HIM QUESTIONS ALONG WITH MY COLLEAGUE BERNARD FRAGA, AND NATE'S COMMENTS WERE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM, DEMOCRATS HAVE HEADWINDS GOING INTO THE 2022 RACE AS WE THINK ABOUT HISTORICAL TRENDS AND THE INCUMBENT PRESIDENT'S PARTY LOSING SEATS IN THE GENERAL -- USUALLY, YOU KNOW, IN MIDTERM YEARS IS SORT OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

HE ALSO LOOKED AT SORT OF WHAT ARE THE OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE GOING TO GO INTO, WHO'S GOING TO WIN AND LOSE OVERALL.

WE THINK ABOUT THIS KIND OF IN AN AGGREGATE SENSE.

WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY PREDICTING INDIVIDUAL RACES HERE AND THERE.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE ARGUED COULD GIVE DEMOCRATS HOPE IS DONALD TRUMP'S UNPOPULARITY.

WE FACTORED IN WHETHER OR NOT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO INCORPORATE THE THINGS THAT HE SAID THIS NONSTARTER.

ALSO HE ACTUALLY HELD OUT HOPE, AND I WASN'T 100% SURE I AGREED WITH HIM ON THE IDEA THAT IF COVID FINALLY GOES AWAY THIS SUMMER, THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY LEND ITSELF TO INCREASED OVERALL OPTIMISM THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY MAKE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND THE DEMOCRATS LOOK A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE.

MY CHALLENGE TO THAT IS THE IDEA OF THE DAMAGE TO THE BIDEN BRAND AS BEING COMPETENT AND THAT'S STILL GOING TO PERSIST AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO HAVE SOME MEMORIES AND SOME RESENTMENTS ABOUT THAT, BUT IT WAS VERY, VERY INTERESTING.

THE STUDENTS WERE VERY ENGAGED, EVEN THE STUDENTS WHO ASKED QUESTIONS, A LOT OF THEM WERE ABOUT POLITICS, BUT YOU KNOW, I FORGET 538 IS ALSO ABOUT SPORTS PROBABILITIES AS WELL, AND SO THERE WERE STUDENTS WHO WERE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT SPORTS PROBABILITIES TOO.

>> AND ABOUT SPORTS GAMBLING, RIGHT?

>> NOT QUITE GAMBLING.

THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, COULD YOU ADD THE PGA INTO YOUR ANALYSES AND THINGS.

LIKE THOSE MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL STARTING ON TIME, WHICH IS MORE LIKELY TO HAPPEN, MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL STARTING ON TIME VERSUS HAVING THE DEMOCRATS ACTUALLY RETAIN CONTROL OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

HE WAS LIKE BASEBALL IS THE SAFER BET THERE.

[ LAUGHTER ] RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A LITTLE INFORMATION ON NATE SILVER.

IF YOU DON'T READ, BY THE WAY, 538 I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT TO ALL OF YOU OUT THERE.

IT'S FIVETHIRTYEIGHT.COM.

NATE AND HIS TEAM ARE REALLY SMART ANALYSTS.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE JUST ABOUT OUT OF TIME FOR TODAY'S SHOW, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK RENEE AL GRUYERE FOR BEING WITH US, MUNDO HISPANICO DIGITAL, JUST >> CORRECT.

>> AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, IF LIKE ME YOU'VE HAD ONE LANGUAGE, ENGLISH, JUST ASK GOOGLE TO TRANSLATE IT.

I WILL SAY, SOMETIMES THE TRANSLATIONS ARE A LITTLE FUNKY.

>> ACTUALLY, ONE THING, BILL, WE DO HAVE AN ENGLISH VERSION OF MUNDO.

YOU JUST HAVE TO TOGGLE UP THERE IN THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER, AND WE PUBLISH EVERYTHING IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH.

WE CERTAINLY REPRESENT THE ACULTURE ATED HISPANIC LIKE MYSELF BORN AND RAISED IN THE USA, EDUCATED IN ENGLISH.

WE DO PUBLISH IN ENGLISH AS WELL.

>> THANK YOU.

I DID NOT REALIZE THAT.

PATRICIA MURPHY OBVIOUSLY A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

I ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO READING WHAT YOU TELL US IN THE JOLT AND TO SEEING YOUR COLUMNS ON WEDNESDAYS AND SUNDAYS AND PROFESSOR ANDRA GILLASPIE THANK YOU AS WELL FOR BEING WITH US WE'RE OUT OF TIME FOR THIS WEEK'S "POLITICAL REWIND."

IT'S AN INCREDIBLY CONSEQUENTIAL WEEK, OVER THE WEEKEND LIKE ALL OF YOU OUT THERE, WE'RE GOING TO BE WATCHING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN UKRAINE, THE POSSIBILITY THAT RUSSIA IS GOING TO TAKE CONTROL OF KYIV AS WE'RE NOW CALLING THE CAPITAL OF THE COUNTRY, AND ON MONDAY'S SHOW, WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND.

WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A PANEL OF NOT JUST EXPERTS BUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE FAMILIES BACK IN UKRAINE, PEOPLE WHO ARE EMIGRATED FROM UKRAINE AND ARE LIVING HERE IN GEORGIA RIGHT NOW.

SO I HOPE YOU'LL BE WITH US FOR THAT.

WE'RE ALL OUT OF TIME FOR TODAY'S "POLITICAL REWIND."

MY THANKS TO THE TEAM THAT WORKS BEHIND THE SCENES ON THE SHOW.

I'M BILL NIGUT, SEE YOU ON MONDAY, AND IN THE MEANTIME, TAKE CARE AND PLEASE STAY HEALTHY.

BYE BYE, EVERYBODY.

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