>> NOTHING IS BETTER THAN FRESH FRUIT FROM THE GARDEN.

>> THIS PARTICULAR PLANT WILL SHOOT UP ADDITIONAL LEAF TISSUE.

>> THE PROGRAM WAS TO CREATE FOOD FOR THE PUBLIC.

THEY ARE PUBLIC ORCHARDS.

>> ADDS A LOT OF WORK, IT REALLY IS WORTH IT WHEN YOU SEE ALL THESE BLOOMS.

IT IS GORGEOUS.

♪ ASHLEE: HELLO, AND WELCOME TO GREAT GARDENING.

I'M ASHLEE SMITH, DIRECTOR OF CONTENT HERE AT WDSE-WRPT, AND YOUR HOST FOR THIS EVENING.

WE HAVE OUR GARDEN EXPERTS WITH US TONIGHT.

THEY ARE HORTICULTURIST AND EDUCATOR BOB OLEN, AND GARDEN PROFESSIONAL DEB BYRNS ERICKSON.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.

BOB: IT'S OUR PLEASURE.

ASHLEE: AS ALWAYS, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM GARDENERS ACROSS THE REGION WHO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OUR EXPERTS ON ALL THINGS GARDENING.

VOLUNTEERS FROM THE ST. LOUIS COUNTY MASTER GARDENERS PROGRAM ARE HERE TO ANSWER THE PHONES.

CALL LOCALLY AT 218-788-2847 OR E-MAIL US AT ASK@WDSE.ORG.

NOW, LET'S TALK CURRENT CONDITIONS.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL OUT THERE TODAY.

BOB: ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS.

BEAUTIFUL SUMMER.

SO FAR SO GOOD.

I KNOW YOUR AUDIENCE IS OVER WIDE GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

DEB: IT'S VERY WET WHERE WE ARE.

BOB: ASHLEE: CERTAINLY IS GORGEOUS.

HAD TO GET OUT THERE A LITTLE BIT MORE.

THE GROWING SEASON IS WELL UNDERWAY AND OUR VERY OWN DEB BYRNS ERICKSON SPOKE TO A LOCAL GARDENER ABOUT THE WORK SHE PUT INTO HER GARDENS THIS YEAR.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK!

DEB: HIGH I'M DEB, ONE OF THE HOST OF GREAT GARDENING.

I'M HERE TODAY WITH MARY AND HER BEAUTIFUL GARDEN.

ARE YOU WEEDING AND MANAGING THE STORM ALL THE TIME?

>> NO.

WE DO CROWDING.

VERY LITTLE WEEDS WILL HAPPEN.

THE GARDEN DIRECTLY BEHIND US, WHICH IS MOSTLY SHADE, I DON'T THINK I'VE DONE NOTHING IN IT FOR YEARS.

IT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND OUR HOUSE.

WE ALLOW THE PLAN TEAM -- ANYTHING THAT GROWS IN HERE.

I LOVE DIFFERENT TYPES.

WE HAVE PROBABLY 20 TO 30 DIFFERENT TYPES.

DEB: WHAT YOU GET FROM YOUR GARDEN?

WHAT DOES IT GIVE YOU?

>> IT IS SELF SATISFYING.

IT IS SOMETHING YOU DID.

ALSO, IT GIVES YOU THAT INNER PEACE.

IT JUST BRINGS EVERYTHING TO A CALM POINT.

IF IT'S A BAD DATE, GET OUT IN THE GARDEN.

DEB: IT IS NICE, SOME YEARS YOU WILL HAVE SUCCESS IN DIFFERENT THINGS AND SOME YEARS YOU WILL HAVE FAILURE IN THE SAME THING.

>> THIS YEAR IT WAS A COLD SPRING.

A LOT OF THE ANNUALS, I COULD NOT PUT THE PLANTERS OUT.

YOU COULDN'T COME OUT AND CLEAN ANYTHING, NOTHING WAS COMING UP.

I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE PLANS WERE.

THE VEGETABLE GARDEN, WE DIDN'T GET THINGS GOING UNTIL QUITE LATE.

I DON'T RECALL A SEASON STARTING THIS LATE.

I HAD SNOW BOOTS ON AND WINTER GLOVES ON UP HERE.

JUNE, WAS MORE LIKE WHAT MAY SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

OUR YARD HAS SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS.

THE TEMPERATURES OF THE SOIL.

THE MAJORITY OF OUR SHADE GARDENS SUBVERT SOIL DIDN'T WARM UP.

DEB: NO IT DOESN'T, IT IS DIFFERENT -- AMAZING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SHADY SPOT & SPOT.

ELEVATION MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

>> IT'S BEEN A REALLY UNPREDICTABLE YEAR.

WE HAVE TO GO WITH THE FLOW.

ASHLEE: THAT WAS A FANTASTIC CONVERSATION.

DEB: SHE DOES A BEAUTIFUL JOB, BOTH SHE AND HER HUSBAND.

THE WORK TOGETHER, THEY WORK HARD BUT IT IS BEAUTIFUL.

IT IS IMMACULATE.

BOB: A NICE JOB MINIMIZING WINTER.

DEB: BY CROWDING EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND REALLY SPREADING THE PRODUCT AROUND.

ASHLEE: THAT'S BEAUTIFUL.

BOB YOU WANTED TO TALK TO US , ABOUT THE SEASON?

BOB: MARY LEAD INTO IT.

IT WAS VERY INTERESTING.

WE GOT OFF TO A SLOW START.

SNOW IN MAY.

FARMING IS ALL ABOUT THE WEATHER.

IT DICTATES A LOT OF WHAT GROWS.

OUR GROWING SEASON, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATISTICS IN JUNE AND JULY, ONCE WE GOT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN VERY AVERAGE.

AVERAGE FROST IS A GOOD THING.

IF WE LOOK AT SOME OF THESE STATISTICS AS OF THE MONTH OF JUNE, OUR AVERAGE TEMPERATURE WAS 62°.

OUR HIGH WAS 94 ON JUNE 20.

I WAS COMING THAT DAY.

I WAS WONDERING WHAT WAS GOING TO COME IN JULY.

WHEN KEVIN STITT PULLED DOWN.

OR BRING TOTALS ABOUT 4 INCHES, A TOUCH BELOW NORMAL.

JULY, THE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE JUST A LITTLE BIT WARMER, 66.8°.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME FOLKS IN THE SOUTHWESTERN PART OF THE COUNTRY THAT WOULD LOVE NUMBERS LIKE THAT.

IT WAS JUST ABOUT PERFECT.

590, LOW OF ABOUT 48.

-- HIGH OF 90, LOW OF ABOUT 48.

IT'S BEEN ABOUT AVERAGE, BUT QUITE EXCEPTIONAL.

IT ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE STATISTICS.

IT'S THE WAY WE WERE GETTING SOME THAT WERE SURE.

WE WOULD GET MOISTURE IN THE EVENING, THEN THINGS WILL DRY DOWN, SO WE GOT SOME BLUSH GREEN GROWTH THAT OCCURRED.

--LUSH, GREEN GROWTH THAT OCCURRED.

TREES AND SHRUBS AND FLOWERING PERENNIALS WERE EXCEPTIONAL.

WARM SEASON CROPS DELAYED.

PEOPLE WAITING FOR THEIR TOMATOES RIPEN, THEY WILL, PROVIDED WE GET AN AVERAGE FALL.

IN MANY CASES, WE SAW A LOT OF VEGETATIVE GROWTH AT THE EXPENSE OF THE FOOD.

THERE WAS VERY LITTLE FUNGAL DISEASE.

WE HAD PLENTY OF MOISTURE.

FUNGAL SPORES NEED ABOUT 48 HOURS OF MOIST CONDITIONS.

SO WE WOULD HAVE RAIN AND WIND, AND THEN WOULD DRY THINGS DOWN.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE HAD OTHER DISEASES.

IT CAN'T BE PERFECT.

DEB: NEVER THE SAME.

BOB: NEVER THE SAME EVERY YEAR.

THIS IS WHAT I WANT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS BACTERIAL INFECTION, I WAS GETTING LOTS OF CALLS.

I LOOK TO MY BACKYARD, MY NERVE INFECTED AS WELL.

THIS IS CLASSIC LIGHT.

THIS IS APPLE.

IT WASN'T TOO HARD FOR ME TO FIND A SAMPLE.

LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE TOOK A BLOW TORCH TO IT.

THEN WE HAVE THIS CLASSIC SHEPHERD'S PROOF AT THE END.

THE REST OF THE BRANCH IS STILL GREEN AND VEGETATIVE.

THERE IS NO CURE, YOU REALLY HAVE TO TRY TO MANAGE IT BY SELECTIVE PRUNING.

WHEN YOU TAKE YOUR PRINTING CUTS, YOU WANT TO COME BACK FROM THE INFECTED AREA AT SIX OR 10 INCHES AND MAKE YOUR CUT.

THEN YOU WANT TO BE CAREFUL AS YOU ARE MOVING THROUGH THE TREE.

THESE ARE TYPICALLY EITHER PARENT, APPLE OR MOUNTAIN ASH.

MAKE YOUR PRINTING CUTS, THEN YOU DIP IN WOULD OR RUBBING ALCOHOL BETWEEN CUTS SO YOU DON'T SPREAD THE INFECTION.

IT IS SYSTEMIC, IT WILL WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE ENTIRE TREE IF YOU NOT CAREFUL.

I'M DEFINITELY SUGGESTING PEOPLE GET OUT THERE AND DO SOME CAREFUL AND SELECTIVE PRUNING.

WE HAD MANY INSECTS THAT CAUSE PROBLEMS.

WE HAD A GREAT WINTER BECAUSE OF THE EARLY SNOWFALL LAST YEAR IN DECEMBER.

POTATO WEEVIL, AND NOW GRASSHOPPERS HAVE BEEN PRETTY AGGRESSIVE IN MANY LOCATIONS.

EVERY YEAR A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

ON THE WHOLE, WE CAN'T COMPLAIN.

A LOT MORE RAIN THAN LAST YEAR.

IT HAS BROUGHT UP VIBRANT FLOWERING PERENNIALS.

IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE ROSE GARDEN, YOU HAVE GOT TO SEE IT.

IT IS SPECTACULAR.

THESE PICTURES WERE TWO DAYS AGO.

KUDOS TO THE CITY AS WELL AS ALL THE VOLUNTEERS THAT HELPED HIM THERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE VEGETATIVE GROWTH ON YOUR TOMATOES.

THIS IS ONE OF OUR FAVORITES.

THEY WILL RIPEN, AND CREATE THOSE -- LOOK HOW LUSH AND GREEN THOSE LANDSCAPES ARE THIS YEAR.

>> I WAS DONE AT THE NORTH ROSE GARDEN, WE ARE GOING TO TALK LATER IN THE PROGRAM ABOUT THE MENTAL HEALTH ASPECTS OF BARGAINING.

JUST APPRECIATING THE SERENITY OF THE GARDEN.

HE SAID I GO FOR A NICE WALK, I GET A LOT OF PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AND THEN I TAKE A FEW MOMENTS, SIT ON THE BENCH, ABSORBED THE VIEW.

YOU CALLED IT SERENITY.

THANKS RON, FOR LANG MAKE SURE YOUR PHOTO.

YOUR ADVICE IS WELL TAKEN.

I WANT TO MENTION CATHERINE AUBURN, SHE WAS A MEMBER OF THE LAKE ROSE SOCIETY.

SHE LEFT US A FEW WEEKS AGO ON JULY 17.

MANY OF YOU KNEW KATE AUBURN.

WE JUST WANT TO NOTE HER PASSING AND ALL SHE DID FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE NEWER AND FOR OUR COMMUNITIES THAT WILL BE LASTING FOREVER.

THANK YOU, KATE.

ASHLEE: I THINK THERE'S A BETTER WAY TO SPEND A WEEKEND THAN IN THE ROSE GARDEN.

BOB: IT IS BEAUTIFUL, WORLD RENOWNED.

PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM EVERYWHERE.

THERE WERE THREE WOMEN THAT DECIDED THEY WERE GOING TO PUT A CEMENT INTERSTATE ON THERE AND SOME CUTS.

17 FEET OF TOPSOIL THERE.

ASHLEE: WOW.

BOB: OUR RESIDENTS WOULD LOOK WHAT THAT TOO.

ASHLEE: WITH QUESTIONS FLYING IN RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.

OUR PHONE VOLUNTEERS ARE ALSO TAKING YOUR CALLS OF SUPPORT TO SUPPORT WDSE TODAY.

WE'VE ALSO HAD SEVERAL FANTASTIC CALLS.

CONTINUE CALLING IN.

LET'S GET TO SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS.

DUANE ASKS, WHEN IS THE IDEAL TIME TO WATER IN A SMALL, VIBRANT THOSE VEGETABLES ONLY?

DEB: ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S GOOD TO GET OUT THERE IN THE MORNING.

JUST TO ASSESS EVERYTHING.

MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS DOING WELL AND GIVE IT A HEAVY, DEEP WATER IN THE MORNING.

YOU CAN OPEN UP, IT IS GOING TO GET HOT IN THERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO OPEN UP AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, ESPECIALLY FOR FULL SUN.

PAY ATTENTION TO THE WEATHER, THAT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE ON HOW MUCH YOU WATER.

DEFINITELY THE MORNING IS THE TIME TO DO IT.

BOB: AND WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE WE OPEN UP IN THE MORNING, THIS IS A NONCHEMICAL WAY OF KEEPING THE PLANTS FROM STRETCHING.

A LITTLE FRESH AIR AND WATER IN THE MORNING.

DEB: KEEPS DOWN THE PESTS, TOO.

ASHLEE: WE HAVE A QUESTION HERE FROM VIEWERS IN LAKESIDE.

WHAT IS THE BEST CROPS -- RASPBERRY WRITING FOR HEAVY CLAY SOIL?

-- RASPBERRY VARIETY FOR HEAVY CLAY SOIL?

BOB: THERE IS NO GOOD RASPBERRY VARIETY FOR HEAVY CLAY SOIL.

THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE LONGER, ESTABLISHED CLAYS ARE A TROUBLE FOR ANNUALS.

PERENNIAL, TREE SHRUBS, RASPBERRIES, OVERTIME, THEY CAN BE WELL-ESTABLISHED IN THE CLAY.

I THINK RATHER THAN PLANTING IT IN THE FALL, SHE WAS LOOKING FOR MATERIAL IN THE FALL, I WOULD BE PREPARING THE PERENNIAL WEEDS OUT AND THEN SOIL TESTING AND WORKING IN SOME ORGANIC IN THE FALL, IF YOU NEED POTASSIUM.

I WOULD SUSPECT THAT IN LAKESIDE.

MAYBE A PH ADJUSTMENT.

SO YOU'RE READY TO GO NEXT SPRING FOR AN ORDER OUT GOOD QUALITY STOCK IN THE SPRING IN THE AIR.

ASHLEE: FANTASTIC.

WE HAVE AN INTERESTING QUESTION HEAR FROM VICKI IN DULUTH.

HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE OR HOW SHOULD SOMEONE HANDLE TELLING A GREENHOUSE THAT THE PLANTS ARE MISLABELED?

DEB: OH, THAT IS IMPORTANT.

WE GET INSPECTED EVERY SPRING TO MAKE SURE WE'RE LABELING CORRECTLY.

ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS A PERENNIAL, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF LAWS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW AS FAR AS IF IT IS A SEED VARIETY AND WE CAN PROPAGATE IT OR IF IT IS LICENSED AND PROTECTED.

IF I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF SOMEONE DID SAY THAT TO ME.

A LOT OF TIMES, YOU JUST MADE A MISTAKE.

I BELIEVE ANY GOOD LOCAL GREENHOUSE IS GOING TO BE GRATEFUL FOR IT.

IF YOU ARE A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE DOING IT, I WOULD SEND IN THE MAIL.

MOST EVERYONE HAS EMAILS TIED TO THEIR BUSINESS.

IT WILL BE EASIER FOR YOU.

OR IF YOU CAN, HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IF YOU KNOW THE OWNER OR YOU CAN HAVE A LITTLE ONE ON ONE AWAY FROM EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY AWAY FROM A CUSTOMER'S, THAT IS HOW I WOULD HANDLE IT.

IT IS A GOOD THING.

AT THIS VERY IMPORTANT.

BOB: SO MUCH AS THE TONE.

WE'VE GOT SO MANY GOOD GREENHOUSES, LOCALLY OWNED, THEY ARE GOOD SOLID PEOPLE AND THEY WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

DEB: IT'S JUST A MISTAKE, I AM GOING TO GUESS.

ASHLEE: GREAT ADVICE, THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM KATHY IN INTERNATIONAL FALLS.

IT HAS BEEN A COLD JUNE AND JULY, JUST GETTING PEPPERS AND TOMATOES GROWING AND RIPENING.

WILL SHE GET FRUIT BY THE FALL?

BOB: SHE SHOULD HAVE FRUIT ON THEM BY THIS POINT.

THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT DO NOT.

WE ARE HOPEFUL WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LATE FROST IN THE FALL.

THE PROJECTIONS ARE FOR THAT.

NEVER GIVE UP.

EVEN IF YOU CAN GET TOMATOES TO GREEN MATURE, THEY CAN BE BROUGHT IN AND RIPENED.

DEB: LET YOUR FLOWERS ARE NOT GOING TO PRODUCE A VIABLE -- SHE COULD TAKE IN SOME OF THAT MATERIAL, IF IT IS BLOOMING IT IS NOT GOING TO FRUIT.

IF YOU DON'T SEE A FRUIT SET, YOU COULD CONSERVE SOME OF THE ENERGY FOR THAT FRUIT.

ASHLEE: THANK YOU.

GREAT GARDENING WILL RETURN IN A MOMENT.

BUT FIRST, IN JUNE, WE VISITED THE GARDENS OF HORTICULTURIST MIKE HEIM, WHO SHOWED US WHAT HE GROWS IN HAYWARD, WISCONSIN!

TAKE A LOOK!

MIKE: WELCOME TO MY GARDEN HERE IN HAYWARD.

I TEACH COLLEGE COURSES.

MY PASSION IS TESTING PLANTS TO SEE IF THEY ARE SUITABLE FOR NORTHWESTERN WISCONSIN AND THE NORTH LAND IN GENERAL.

ONE OF MY TEST BEDS HERE ARE BOXWOODS.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T THINK BOXWOODS CAN GROW IN THE NORTH.

THEY ASSOCIATE THEM WITH THE SOUTH.

THERE ARE SOME BOXWOODS THAT ARE HARDY HERE.

THESE CAME THROUGH 40 BELOW TWO WINTERS AGO.

I WOULD JUST FINE.

ONE OF THE TYPES OF PLANS I'M FOND OF OUR THE BROADLEAVED EVERGREEN.

THE WINTERS ARE SO LONG, IT IS I SO LOOK OUT HER WINDOW AND SEE A TREE OR BUSH COVERED WITH GREEN LEAVES.

ONE OF THE BEST BROADLEAF EVERGREENS UP HERE ARE RHODODENDRONS.

THERE ARE MANY THAT ARE HARDY HERE.

ED IS A MATTER OF DOING RESEARCH AND FINDING OUT WHICH ONES ARE HARDY.

THIS WAS BRED IN FINLAND.

IT IS A COMPLETELY HARDY RHODODENDRON.

LAST SPRING HE BLOOMED AFTER 40 BELOW WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM.

THE ARE GREAT FOR WILDLIFE.

BUMBLEBEES, TIGER SWALLOWTAIL'S.

GUARDING IN WITH THE RHODODENDRONS IS A SMALL TREE.

IT IS A BALD CYPRESS.

THEY GROW IN LOUISIANA IN THE BAYOUS, THEY PUT THE KNEES UP OUT OF THE WATER, THEY HAVE THE MOST LOVELY FEATHERY FOLIAGE AND IT STAYS THAT WAY.

IN THE FALL, THEY TURN A PUMPKIN ORANGE.

THIS IS MY ALPINE BED.

MOST OF THESE ROCKS ARE LIGHT-COLORED.

THAT IS BECAUSE I WANT ROCKS THAT REFLECTED HEAT.

THESE ARE ALPINE'S AND THEY CAN'T GET TOO HOT.

THE SHADY'S LOCATION IS ALONG THE HOUSE.

THIS IS ALMOST A RAIN FOREST.

YOU HAVE GREAT POLYS -- GRAPE POLYS.

ALL MINGLING TOGETHER.

JUST LET THEM DO THEIR THING.

UNDER THE SIBERIAN IRISES, THIS YOU LIKE CONIFER -- YEW-LIKE CONIFER HAS BEEN HARDY FOR ME FOR YEARS.

ALONG WITH THE FLORIDA YEW AND ♪ WELCOME BACK.

LET'S GET TO SOME MORE QUESTIONS!

THIS ONE MIGHT BE DIFFICULT.

WERE GOING TO TRY.

BETH FROM SOUTH RANCH SAYS, DIE BACK ON WOODBERRY AND -- EACH WEEK FROM ONE BUSH AND TO ANOTHER.

THERE'S GOOD WATERING, IT IS A 25-YEAR-OLD BUSH.

SHE HAS NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE.

IT IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE GARAGE.

ANY THOUGHTS?

BOB: I SHOWED YOU THE BLIGHT SYMPTOMS, WE ARE SEEING THAT IN THE ROSE FAMILY.

I THINK WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT FROM BLUEBERRIES.

I WOULD LOOK CLOSER AT IT.

IT APPEARS IT COULD BE INSECT ACTIVITY.

IT COULD BE SMOOTHING FROM ONE AREA TO THE NEXT.

WE DON'T SEE A LOT OF FUNGAL ACTIVITIES, BUT IT COULD BE FUNGAL DISEASE, COULD BE SYSTEMIC FUNGAL DISEASE.

MAYBE THE FACT THAT SHE BROUGHT UP THE WATERING, MAYBE WE'VE GOT TOO MUCH WATER ON THERE AND NEED TO DRY THINGS DOWN.

IT COULD BE DISEASE, IT COULD BE PHYSIOLOGICAL, TOO MUCH WATER THERE, EVEN THOUGH WE BROUGHT ALL THESE SLIDES EXAMPLES OF FIRE BLIGHT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

IT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT WE WOULD HAVE TO INVESTIGATE.

WE COULD BE OVERWATERING.

IF THEY ARE MULCHED, MAYBE IT IS TOO MOIST THERE.

ASHLEE: I'M SEEING A LOT OF QUESTIONS COME IN A SIMILAR TOPIC.

THE DIFFERENT PLANTS.

I'M GOING TO THROW TWO IN AT ONCE.

WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S TOMATOES ARE DOING TERRIBLE, THE LEAVES ARE YELLOWING AND RUNNING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PLANTS AND SOMEONE WHO HAS UN-PICKED RHUBARB LYING ON THE GROUND AND THE LEAVES ARE TURNING YELLOW, THEY ARE DYING.

IS THIS ACROSS MULTIPLE PLANTS AND ISSUE OR IS SPECIFIC TO EACH ONE?

DEB: THE RHUBARB IS MORE OF A SPRING VEGETABLE.

IT IS GOING TO GO DORMANT.

IT NEEDS TO GO DORMANT.

YOU NEED TO LET IT DIE BACK SO IT COULDN'T DOOR ENERGY.

-- SO IT CAN STORE ENERGY.

THE TOMATOES.

BOB: SHE SAID YELLOWING ON THE LOWER LEAVES, ANY OTHER CLOTHES?

ASHLEE: WE PLANTED BEEFSTEAK AND CHERRY TOMATOES, LEAVES OF THE PLANS ARE YELLOWING, WE WATER THEM REGULARLY, FERTILIZED.

BOB: FUNGAL DISEASE, YOU WILL USUALLY SEE OTHER SYMPTOMS.

SHE WANTS TO INSPECT THOSE LEAVES CAREFULLY.

IF IT IS JUST THE BOTTOM OF THE PLANT, ONCE AGAIN, IT MAY BE OVERWATERING IN THE SITUATION.

IF THEY ARE JUST YELLOWING OFTEN DYING, THIS IS THE OLDER TISSUE THAT IS UNDER STRESS.

INSPECT THE LEAVES CAREFULLY, IF IT IS FUNGAL DISEASE, YOU'LL SEE THE SCORES ON THE LEAP ITSELF.

IF IT IS JUST THE CHLOROPHYLL YELLOWING, THEN THE DISTAL STOMACH -- THEN IT IS SYSTEMIC.

IT MAY BE TOO MUCH WATERING.

DEB: WHAT FERTILIZER IS SHE DOING?

IS SHE OVER FERTILIZING?

BOB: FERTILITY, YOU WOULD SEE THAT ON THE MARGINS WHERE THE SUPPLICANTS TO COLLECT.

SHE IS JUST BEGINNING TO SEE A BREAKDOWN.

THE PLANT IS UNDER STRESS.

IT OBVIOUSLY ISN'T DRIVE, IT MIGHT BE THE OPPOSITE.

I WOULD LOOK AT THAT.

ASHLEE: LET'S CONTINUE THE ISSUES QUESTIONS HERE.

[LAUGHTER] SOMETHING IS ANNIHILATING THE BASAL.

SHE'S SPAYED -- IS ANNIHILATING THE BASIL.

DEB: IS A TURNING BLACK?

MORE INFORMATION WILL BE GREAT.

THE BASIL IS SUSCEPTIBLE TO GETTING THE BLACKROT.

THERE IS A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS COULD BE IN BASIL.

BOB: DON'T CUT IT -- I WOULD PRINT OUT THOSE LEAVES THAT ARE INFECTED.

DEB: IF THE BOTTOM IS AFFECTED, YOU CAN TAKE CUTTINGS.

YOU COULD TAKE CUTTINGS OFF THE TOP IF YOU'RE GOING TO SALVAGE SOME OF IT.

IT DEPENDS WHERE THAT DISEASE IS.

ASHLEE: LET'S TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A SIDESTEP TO A DIFFERENT TYPE OF QUESTION.

D, FROM DULUTH IS CURIOUS, -- DEE FROM DULUTH IS CURIOUS, CAN WE PRINT -- PLANT CARROTS IN THE FALL AND HARVEST IN THE SPRING?

BOB: BROADLY DEFINED, WE HAVE WINTERGREEN HOUSES NOW.

IT IS INTERESTING, THERE'S WINTER AND THEN THERE'S WINTER.

A LOT OF PRODUCTION AND SOME OF THE WINTERGREEN HOUSES AND IS IN AREAS THAT ARE MORE TEMPERATE THAN OURS.

WHEN YOU GET 20 BELOW IN A GREENHOUSE, IT IS GOING TO BE WELL OVER 30 BELOW.

THAT IS CHALLENGING.

THE WINTER GARDENING, AND THE STRUCTURE, YOU DEFINITELY CAN GROW THEIR.

-- YOU DEFINITELY CAN GROW THERE.

YOU'VE GOT SNOW ON TOP OF IT, WHEN YOU'RE DIGGING AS YOU GO.

IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT KIND OF TECHNIQUE.

DEB: AND STRUCTURE.

ON A GREENHOUSE, IF YOU ARE TRYING TO USE A GREENHOUSE FOR WINTER BRINE, EVERY LAYER OF PLASTIC, OR PROBABLY PUT ON ADDS A ZONE.

I'M A THREE, YOU ARE MORE OF A FOUR.

YOU COULD GET UP TO A FIVE, ALMOST A SIX IF YOU HAVE A DOUBLE WALL WITH INFLATION BETWEEN THE TWO.

ASHLEE: PERFECT, THANK YOU.

LET'S MOVE ON.

DEB, YOU WANTED TO TALK TO US ABOUT THE MENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS OF GARDENING?

DEB: WITH COVID AND PANDEMIC, I THINK HOUSEPLANTS, A BIG REVIVAL.

THE PEOPLE COULD DO SOMETHING, IT GIVES THEM SATISFACTION.

GARDENING IS THE SAME.

GARDENING BENEFITS ASSOCIATED WITH HEALTH AND WELL-BEING, PRACTICING ACCEPTANCE AND MOVING BEYOND PERFECTIONISM.

YOU ARE NOT IN CONTROL OF THESE PLANTS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ISSUES.

IT IS ALRIGHT, MAYBE NEXT YEAR YOU WILL FIGURE IT OUT.

IT IS OK TO LEARN HOW TO COPE AND DEAL WITH THESE THINGS.

NUMBER TWO, THE CAN DEVELOP A GROWTH MINDSET.

IT WASN'T SUCCESSFUL, I'M GOING TO LEARN FROM THIS AND GET BETTER AT IT, YOU WILL LEARN FROM FAILURE.

IT IS NOT A BAD THING.

THEN YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO LET GO AND MOVE ON TO NEXT YEAR.

NUMBER THREE, YOU CAN CREATE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER PARTNERS, JOIN GROUPS, LOOK INTO THE MASTER GARDENERS.

GOING ASKING QUESTIONS, GETTING INVOLVED WITH MORE LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE AND JUST ASK QUESTIONS AND USE IT AS A GOOD TEACHING TOOL.

NUMBER FOUR, CONNECTING WITH -- GROWING YOUR OWN FOOD AND KNOWING WHERE IT IS -- WORK COMES FROM IS IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY FOR KIDS.

APPRECIATE YOUR FARMERS, HOW HARD IT IS TO GROW SOMETHING.

YOU WILL REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR FOOD MORE AND HAVE MORE CONTROL OVER IT.

BEING PRESENT, VERY IMPORTANT, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FOCUSING ON LIVING IN THE MOMENT, BEING PRESENT.

THERE IS A TECHNIQUE CALLED 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

NUMBER FIVE IS LOOK OUT IN YOUR GARDEN, FIVE THINGS YOU SEE.

THEN APPRECIATE THOSE FIVE THINGS.

FOUR, TOUCH FOR THINGS.

BUT AT THE TIME YOU'RE TOUCHING THINGS AND BREATHING, YOU'RE GOING TO NUMBER THREE, HERE ARE THREE THINGS.

--HEAR 3 THINGS.

NUMBER TWO IS SMELL.

IF YOU ARE IN THE MOMENTS OF APPRECIATING IT.

DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS QUICKLY, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR TIME IN THE GARDEN OR WHEREVER YOU MAY BE AND APPRECIATE IT.

NUMBER ONE IS TO TASTE SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY IN YOUR OWN GARDEN.

GARDENING ALSO HELPS WITH EXERCISE, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS GREAT FOR MENTAL HEALTH.

THERE ARE DIFFERENT ATTITUDES ABOUT IT.

YOU ARE IN THE GARDEN, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS, YOU'RE GOING TO STRETCH.

THINK OF YOUR BODY AS STARS AND WE WANT TO FORM AS MY CONSTELLATIONS AS POSSIBLE.

YOU WILL GET BETTER AT IT EVERY DAY.

GARDENING INCREASES YOUR MOOD, OVER TWO THIRDS OF GARDENERS EXPERIENCE IMPROVED MOOD WHEN GARDENING.

IT IS A GREAT MENTAL ESCAPE INTO THE GARDEN.

BOB: SO WELL SAID.

THE OTHER THING, JUST GET OUTSIDE IN THE SUN.

THE ONE THING THIS COVID EXPERIENCE HAS TAUGHT US ALL IS HOW PRECIOUS GOOD HEALTH IS.

SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SO CONFINED.

WE WEREN'T MADE TO SIT IN FRONT OF A VIDEO SCREEN IN AN ENCLOSED BUILDING.

WE ARE MEANT TO BE OUTSIDE.

JUST GETTING OUT THERE, EXERCISING, DOING ALL THE THINGS YOU SUGGESTED, VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU, YOUR KIDS, YOUR NEIGHBORS.

SOME OF THE ISSUES WE ARE EXPERIENCING, OUR SOCIETY IS RELATED TO THE FACT WE ARE NOT OUT THERE ENOUGH.

WE ARE NOT PHYSICALLY PARTICIPATING ENOUGH.

AND GETTING BACK TO WHO AND WHAT WE ARE AS HUMANS AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

THE GARDEN IS A GREAT PLACE TO DO THIS.

ASHLEE: THANK YOU BOTH, IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

LET'S GET BACK TO MORE QUESTIONS!

ALAN FROM --ELLEN HAS ASKED, DIFFERENT HERBS, DO THEY BUILD UP THE SOIL?

BOB: LET'S GO TO DIRECT APPLICATION.

I'M A BIG ADVOCATE OF COMPOSTING FIRST.

IF YOU JUST TELL A LOT OF LEAFY MATERIAL AND THEIR EXHIBIT IS GOING TO PARTIALLY BREAK DOWN.

THEN YOU GET INTERMEDIATE ACIDS THAT CAN OCCUR.

YOU ARE MUCH BETTER OFF -- TO PUT A LARGE AMOUNT OF LEAVES AND WITHOUT COMPOSTING FIRST CAN LEAD TO DIFFICULTIES.

LET'S BREAK IT DOWN, MAKE SURE THERE ARE SOME NITROGEN AND WATER AND THE COMPONENTS YOU NEED FOR COMPOSTING.

THAT WOULD GET THE COMPOST WHICH IS NEUTRAL, YOU DON'T HAVE PH ISSUES, THAT YOU CAN INCORPORATE IN YOUR GARDEN OR USE IT ON THE SOIL SURFACE IS MULCH.

COMPOST FIRST.

ASHLEE: DORIS FROM CARLTON WANTS TO KNOW, CUCUMBER LEAVES ARE GREEN, BUT THERE'S NO CUCUMBER.

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?

BOB: AHA.

ONCE IS IN CROP -- ONE SEASON CROP, IN SOME SITUATIONS CUCUMBERS ARE INTERESTING, WE CAN HAVE SEPARATE SEXES AND SEPARATE CUCUMBERS.

MAKE SURE YOU PLANT MORE THAN A FEW PLANTS SO YOU GET THIS OCCURRING.

FLOWERING IS PROBABLY DELAYED BECAUSE WE GOT OFF TO A LATE START.

YOU REALLY HAD TO WORK WITH THEM.

WE WERE COVERED WITH SPUN POLYESTER, WE KNEW WE WERE UP AGAINST COLD SOILS.

WE GOTTA GET A PROPER ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

AT THIS POINT, STAY WITH IT, STAY AWAY FROM THE FERTILITY, WE PUSH MORE GREEN GROWTH AND WHAT THAT PLAN NATURALLY SET ITS FLOWERS.

DEB: AND DO SOME SUPPLEMENTAL WATERING.

BOB: WE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE OVERWATERING, WE DO HAVE CONDITIONS AS YOU MOVE SOUTH, FROM HERE IN DULUTH, HE MOVED NORTH WE'VE GOT TOO MUCH WATER, YOU MOVE SOUTH, IT'S BEEN VERY DRY.

AND IN SOUTHERN WISCONSIN AS WELL.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR OWN SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES.

MAYBE YOU NEED WATER, MAYBE YOU'VE BEEN OVERWATERING.

DEB: PUT YOUR FINGER IN THE GROUND.

ASHLEE: WE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT BELL AND HOT PEPPERS.

I'VE DOZENS OF PEPPER PLANTS THAT GROW IN THE GROUND IN MY GREENHOUSE THAT WERE AFFECTED BY APHIDS THIS YEAR.

THE WATER DID NOT WORK AND NEITHER DID THE SPRAY.

IT HAS BEEN TWO TO THREE WEEKS AND THEY ARE FINALLY CLEARING UP , DO I NEED TO TREAT THE SOIL TO PREVENT THIS NEXT YEAR?

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I SHOULD BE DOING?

BOB: DEB: I CAN'T IMAGINE SHE HEATS THE GREENHOUSE ALL WINTER.

AS LONG AS THE GREENHOUSE FREEZES, SHE IS TAKING CARE OF THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW, THEN SHE SHOULD GET RID OF A LOT OF THE APHIDS.

THE COLD WILL TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THAT.

BOB: FOR NEXT YEAR.

A COUPLE PRODUCTS, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU USE, SEVEN IS LABELED OVER THE COUNTER FOR CHEWING INSECTS, THE APHID IS A SUCKING INSECT.

USE INSECTICIDAL SOAP, TRY WATER SPRAY.

THEY ARE NOT THAT TOUGH, THEY ARE SO PERVASIVE.

WATCH THE LABELS IN THE WAITING.

ON EDIBLES.

DEB: MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT JUST TREATING, TREATING, TREATING.

OH IT DIDN'T WORK, I'M GOING TO TRY SOME, THEY DON'T WAIT LONG ENOUGH IN THE PLAN CANNOT RECOVER.

BOB: JUST LETTING IT GO COLD AT THE END OF, SHE SHOULDN'T -- APHIDS ARE PART OF OUR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.

THEY WILL COME IN IN ANY GIVEN YEAR.

ASHLEE: GREAT ADVICE, THANK YOU.

WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE GREAT GARDENING IN A MOMENT, BUT FIRST LET'S GET BACK TO THE GARDENS OF MIKE HEIM, TO SEE WHAT HE GROWS IN HIS EXCLOSURE GARDEN!

MIKE: ONE OF THE PLACES I'VE DEVELOPED TO TEST PLANTS AS A WOODLAND EXCLOSURE.

IT IS DIFFERENT THAN AN ENCLOSURE.

IT IS TRYING TO KEEP THINGS FROM COMING IN.

SPECIFICALLY DEER AND RABBITS.

WHICH WOULD HAVE A FEAST ON SOME OF THESE PLANTS I'M TESTING IN THE WINTERTIME.

I HAVE PUT UP A FENCE THROUGH THE WOODS MADE OF CHICKEN WIRE.

INSIDE THE EXCLOSURE ARE MOSTLY EVERGREENS.

THIS IS A LIZARD TREE.

HERE TO CLONES OF FLORIDA YEW.

THEY ARE DOING WELL, THEY HAVE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS.

BUT ON ONE OF THE BIGGEST SURPRISES.

PLANT ONLY FROM FLORIDA, ENDANGERED, IT IS DOING SO WELL HERE.

HE SAID THE FLOWER BUDS.

MARK MOUNTAIN LAUREL IS ONE OF THOSE -- NOT MORAL IS ONE OF THOSE, IT NEEDS BETTER DRAINAGE THAN RHODODENDRONS.

IT IS FUSSY.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T THINK THEY CAN GROW IT THIS FAR NORTH.

THERE ARE HARDY FORMS.

I WENT TO VERMONT AND NEW HAMPSHIRE TO COLLECT CUTTINGS OF SOME OF THOSE.

THIS IS WHY THE RESULTS.

EVENTUALLY, AND A DAY OR SO THOSE THE FLOWERS WILL OPEN.

THEY HAVE STATEMENS, WHEN THE BE FIVE IN, THEY TAP BE ON THE HEAD.

THIS GETS THE ABOUT THAT BIG.

IT LOOKS LIKE A HOUSEPLANT.

THAT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO GROW ANYWHERE NEAR HERE.

IT IS ON SIX.

WE HAVE THE SNOW COVERED, RELIABLE SNOW COVER HERE IS A BLESSING FOR GROWING THESE PLANTS.

DO YOU WANT TO SEE ONE OF THE RAREST PLANTS IN EASTERN NORTH AMERICA?

HERE WE HAVE BOX HUCKLEBERRY.

IT IS ONE OF THE RAREST PLANTS IN EASTERN NORTH AMERICA.

I'M EXCITED.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IT HAS MADE FRUIT.

THERE THE BLUEBERRIES, HUCKLEBERRY.

THEY HAVEN'T A MEETING FOR YET, NOW I CAN SEND THE SEEDS TO NEW ZEALAND.

IT IS REALLY RARE, THERE'S ONLY A FEW LOCATIONS IN SEVERAL STATES WHERE GROWS.

THOSE PLANTS ARE THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD.

JUST A FASCINATING PLAN FROM BEFORE THE ICE AGE.

-- FASCINATING PLANT FROM BEFORE ♪ WELCOME BACK TO GREAT GARDENING.

BOB, YOU WANTED TO SHARE AN EVENT ON OUR COMMUNITY CALENDAR?

BOB: THIS HAPPENS TO BE NATIONAL FARMERS MARKET WEEK.

NATIONAL FARMERS MARKET DAY IS THIS SATURDAY, AUGUST 13.

WE'VE GOT A LOCAL PRODUCT THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

OUR COMMERCIAL FARMERS HAVE PRODUCT FOR YOU.

THEY HAVE THE SAME CHALLENGES OUR PARTNERS DO.

HAVE A GREAT TIME THIS SATURDAY, GO TO THE FARMERS MARKET ON 3RD STREET.

THEY WILL BRING SOME PRODUCT FOR PEOPLE TO SAMPLES OF SOME KIND OF RECIPE.

THERE WILL BE RECIPES, SAMPLES, I THINK I'M GOING TO BRING ZUCCHINI CHOCOLATE CAKE.

I'VE GOT MORE ZUCCHINI THAN COCOA BEANS.

IT IS LOCAL PRODUCT IN THERE.

FOURTEENTH AVENUE AND 3RD STREET, 12 NOON, IT WILL BE FULL, FRIENDLY FRIENDLY -- FAMILY FRIENDLY.

ASHLEE: WE HAVE A FEW MORE MINUTES IN THE SHOW HERE.

WE WANT TO THANK OUR MASTER GARDENERS.

BOB: I PERSONALLY DEAL WITH FOLKS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SOMETIME WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HIGHLIGHT THE MANY PROJECTS OF SIGNIFICANCE THEY ARE INVOLVED WITH.

THEY HAVE BEEN MANNING THE PHONES ALL SEASON.

FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT AND DOING SO MUCH FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

ASHLEE: THANK YOU.

LET'S GET THIS MORE QUESTIONS.

ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO, THEY BROUGHT A STARGAZER LILY TURN PINK AND LOSS OF STRIPES, IS THERE A WAY OF GETTING THEM BACK?

DEB: THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

BOB: GOOD QUESTION.

I DON'T THINK SO.

DEB: I DON'T EITHER.

BOB: YOU HAVE TO START AGAIN.

DEB: I WONDER IF IT'S A SOIL ISSUE AND CHANGE.

I DON'T KNOW.

THAT WOULD BE THE ON THING I COULD THINK OF.

BOB: WE SOMETIMES SEE THAT WITH SOME OF THESE HYBRIDS.

I GUESS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START AGAIN.

DEB: I DON'T KNOW THAT GO TO THE SAME SPOT.

THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN.

TRY A FRESH START.

I HAVEN'T REALLY HEARD ABOUT.

BOB: WE DO SEE IT AND OTHER THINGS.

ASHLEE: WE ARE GOING TO PLAY THE CAN ASHLEE PRONOUNCE THIS.

WHAT CAN I DO ABOUT BOXEALIS IN THE YARD?

BOB: NOT REALLY EASILY.

WERE TRYING TO GO WITH BEE FRIENDLY EONS.

-- FRIENDLY LAWNS.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SELECTIVELY TAKE IT.

DEB: JUST RUNS TO.

SORRY.

ASHLEE: RICHARD, THE GRAPES ARE SHRIVELED UP.

THE LEAVES ARE STILL GREAT, WHAT HAPPENED?

BOB: THAT IS ALL FUNGAL.

IT WILL ATTACK EARLY.

NOT A HUGE WINE PRODUCING REGIONS OF THEIR SOME VERY SELECTIVE FUNGICIDES THAT CAN BE USED.

YOU CANSTART WITH SOME OF THE BROAD-SPECTRUM FUNGICIDES.

NEXT YEAR, TOO LATE NOW, AS A PREVENTATIVE.

BEFORE BLOSSOM SET.

DEB: I'LL HAVE TO DO IT MORE NOW, BECAUSE HE SAID IT ONCE.

BOB: IT'S VERY POSSIBLE.

I WOULD CLEAN UP AGAIN.

AND THE FRUIT IN PARTICULAR, WHERE THE SPORES MAY BE.

ASHLEE: THANK YOU ALL FOR THE QUESTIONS YOU'VE SUBMITTED TODAY AND FOR TUNING INTO GREAT GARDENING.

IF YOU WANT MORE, YOU CAN SUBSCRIBE TO US ON YOUTUBE AT YOUTUBE.COM/GREAT-GARDENING, AND LIKE WDSE-WRPT ON FACEBOOK.

IF YOU MISSED ANY PART OF THIS SHOW, IT WILL BE POSTED ON OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL AND THE PBS VIDEO APP TOMORROW.

THANKS BOB AND DEB, YOU TWO WERE GREAT TONIGHT.

I LOVE CHATTING WITH YOU AND ALL THE THINGS YOU SHARE WITH US.

WE'LL BE BACK IN THE SECOND.

WE WILL ALSO BE BACK NEXT MONTH WITH OUR FALL HARVEST SPECIAL ON SEPTEMBER 22!

LET'S CONTINUE WITH THE TOUR OF A PROCTOR GARDEN.

IN JULY, WE VISITED CONNIE MACINNES.

HER WATER FEATURE AND VEGETABLE GARDEN PROVIDED HER AND HER HUSBAND A SOURCE OF COMFORT DURING THE PANDEMIC.

TAKE A LOOK!

CONNIE: WE ARE IN PROCTOR, MINNESOTA.

>> WE PURCHASED THE PLACE FOR MY MOM AND DAD ABOUT 16 YEARS AGO.

SINCE THEN, WITH DONE QUITE A BIT OF LANDSCAPING.

>> WHEN WE BOUGHT THE HOME FROM FAMILY.

MY FATHER-IN-LAW AND BROTHER-IN-LAW HAD DUG OUT THE AREA AND LINED IT AND FILLED WITH WATER.

THIS GAZEBO WAS UP NEAR THE HOUSE.

WE PUT THE GAZEBO THERE IS A BACKDROP.

AND THEN JUST BUMPED OUT FROM THE WATER'S EDGE TO CREATE SPACE TO HAVE FLOWERS AND THINGS.

THEY ARE GOLDFISH.

EXCEPT THERE IS A CALICO LOOKING ONE, AND THE GRANDCHILDREN LOVE THEM.

IT IS A JOY.

A WHEELBARROW THAT BECOMES A PLANTER.

ANYTHING I CAN DRILL A HOLE IN THE BOTTOM CAN BECOME A PLANTER.

THIS IS JUST HUNDREDS OF BLOOMS.

THIS CLEMATIS JUST LOVES THAT SPOT.

WHEN COVID HIT, WE'D BEEN TALKING ABOUT WE COULDN'T JUST TAKE UP OUR SOIL, IT IS SO AWFUL.

AND BACKBREAKING.

I RAN ACROSS MEL BARTHOLOMEW.

HIS TEACHING ON PBS AND OUR LOCAL LIBRARY HAD THE BOOK.

WE LEARNED ABOUT SQUARE FOOT GARDENING.

HE TOLD US ANYTHING COULD BE GROWN IN SIX INCHES OF SOIL.

HE TEACHES YOU HOW.

HE TAUGHT US THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO MAKE YOUR RAISED BEDS MORE THAN FOUR FEET WIDE, BECAUSE YOU CAN ONLY REACH INTO FEET ON THE OTHER SIDE, OTHERWISE YOU HAVE WASTED SPACE.

COVID CAME, MY HUSBAND HAD SOME TIME OFF.

WE JUST BUILT IT.

WE CALL THIS OUR COVID GARDEN.

THIS IS OUR THIRD SEASON.

WHEN I'M PLANTING IN MY VEGETABLE GARDEN, I ALSO LIKE FLOWERS.

THESE ARE IN THE AS.

LEE TOOK A SECTION OF THE CATTLE PANEL.

YOU CAN SEE A GREATER CROSS HERE.

WE ADDED IT TO THE FRAME.

THE WILL FLOWERS THAT NEED STATING AS THEY CONTINUE TO GROW HIGH.

>> IF YOU BUILD A FENCE, YOU BUILD THE BOX, PUT A PLACE FOR SOMETHING TO GROW, PLANT THE SEEDS, THEN JUST LET GOD GROW IT.

IT'S A WONDERFUL THING.

A GREAT BLESSING TO OUR LIVES.

ASHLEE: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR