In terms of where we are now as a society because, I mean, we're pretty divisive right now.

So how how do you bring people together and what does that look like?

Being proactive and learning, learning what communication is?

To me, that's that's the key to anything in life being able to communicate because all of this stuff when it comes to police brutality, racism, all of that wouldn't exist if you knew how to communicate with somebody.

Instead of becoming like combative.

The time that I spent in life because I'm 40 years of age, I wasn't born at night, You know, I may and I one born last night.

So I see a lot of people every day and they talk to me, say, Hey, man, your inspiration.

You this, you that.

I just think I'm a people that speak.

I'm a person who speaks for the people, and I'm trying my best to be able to let everybody know that we can stand together in solidarity and be able to make this world a better place.

Because if we don't do it, nobody else is going to do it.

So I want to ask, why are you doing this?

I think it's easy for a lot of people to look at the situation that's happened with your brother and say that you are profiting off of his death.

So I guess my basic question is why?

When you lose someone that you love so much, it can change your entire life.

Because I was a truck driver, I could a slept up under a rock and never came out.

But I came out to be with a fight because I didn't ask to be part of this fraternity.

This is a fraternity nobody wants to be a part of.

And the fact that we have all of these families who are constantly losing family members due to police brutality, racism.

I can name people that are still in the forefront, like Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, Brianna Taylor, different people like that.

Everybody know who I'm talking about when I start talking about people like Pamela Turner.

And I don't know if you still remember Dante Wright when it was down in Minnesota.

Different individuals, people be like, Where?

Who?

That's what I'm talking about.

People are being murdered in the fact that I went to Washington and a man was crying so hard that he told me he had a brother that was shot 100 times by police officer.

That right there it just nobody knew about it and it just stuck with me.

That to me, I don't want to live in a world that I can't go places.

I got to constantly anticipate death.

Nobody, that's the worst thing in the world to anticipate death because you don't know when you're going to die.

You don't know when your kids, your mother, your father, nobody.

You want somebody to be able to come home every day.

Because it shouldn't be an empty seat at that table.

And it's not due to COVID.

It's due to somebody killing your brother or your sister due to police brutality because they thought my skin was a weapon.

Are you hopeful?

I'm optimistic about everything.

The key to life is never give up.

And you can never give up hope because if you give up hope, everything is deceased.

But if you always believe nobody can take that from you because believing is achieving.

Because you have Hispanics, they look black too.

And I get people in Brazil, they all told me the same thing.

So they looked down upon because they have dark skin.

I want to take that out of people's mind.

I want that to be deleted.

That's what I want.

What does the money mean to you?

Just recently, Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, those victims of that shooting were awarded millions of dollars.

What does big millions of dollars settlement?

What does that mean to you?

That's, I always talk about that.

To me, the money, it's just something to help you live better and help your family for generations to come.

It will never give you back your loved one.

You know, that's going to always be in your heart forever.

Anybody that you love because then everybody in here, they love their mom, or they love their dad.

It's one of them who you love most of the time.

And when you lose that person, they don't have to be lost to police brutality, racism, anything.

They can just be perishing because they live their life.

You still going to cry.

You're going to mourn.

You're going to think about them every day because you did so much with them.

So just money is not enough.

More people should get out and speak.

Just don't be silent.

You get the money and becomes silent.

It's just like, it's a gift.

Okay, we paid for what we did.

No, I'm going to get out and speak on my brother's behalf because he, the dead cannot talk for themselves.

We have to get out and speak for them.

Earlier, you mentioned that part of your organization focuses on mental health.

Mm-Hmm.

Oftentimes, in the black community, we go to church for mental health.

How has your relationship with discussing mental health and grieving changed after your brother?

You know, coming up in poverty, especially where I came up, nobody wants to go any place for mental health.

because the term is what they like to say, You're crazy.

And you hear people say that all the time about somebody with mental health.

Ah, they just came up with a word for somebody being crazy.

Nobody wants to come out and say they have a problem.

Nobody here.

You can have people getting food stamps, and they only want to use the food stamp card in the store in front of people because they are saying so many different things can cause mental health.

But people don't look at it like they think that you have a problem, but you crazy, you know?

But I think if more people get out and speak and be comfortable, you open up the door, open up the doors and the floodgates will just open and people will just be constantly telling their feelings.

And that's one of the biggest reasons I get out and speak in.

I love talking about different things when it comes to mental health and things like that because people need that talk.

They need that motivation.

They need to know that they are human and I can have problems, you know, and I know I have problems before.

I will break down in front of the cameras and cry all the time.

And that's something that I had to learn how to withstand and overcome because I know the cameras going to always be here and they're going to always want to know your story.

They're going to want to know what's wrong, how you living today, and you have to get comfortable and understand if you can'’’t deliver the message, who is going to do it for you?

That George Floyd was my brother.

He's not a trophy for me.

He's not nothing that I'm putting on a pedestal to get any money.

What I'm doing.

I'm speaking up for other families, not just here in America, all around the world.

We're tired.

We want to stop the pain.

I want to talk about how tired you are because I know that as a black person, we are often confronted and forced to talk about race and to be experts and very knowledgeable about this.

But here you are having to, are forst and to relive and relive the trauma of your brother's death.

And, you know, I almost feel selfish, you know, even doing this interview.

But I'm just curious, like, how tired are you right now?

Hey, you get tired of talking about it.

But the fact that people are still dying, you still had to put on your gear.

It's like only fatigue dressed.

And you're going to battle every day.

Speaking, speaking for people, you know, the people with no voices, you're talking for them.

This this is what we have to do.

You know, we're not going to war, but we're not going to lie down, either.

So my thing is, if we don't talk about it, they are just sweeping under the rug and just going about their business.

with another person toetag up on the ground, dead.

through all of your interviews.

What are you not being asked by the media and by people that interview you?

Nobody asks me what kind of fish me and George caught.

He didn't really know too much about fishing, and he had he used to get the hooks caught up in this story and stuff like that.

And he thought, All this for me is how good fishing is.

We would go saltwater fishing and we would catch speckled trout redfish.

And a lot of times you end up catching fish that you really don't want, like the Croaker or the Sandtrout and stuff like that.

But I told him how to clean fish.

And I told him to take the Sandtrout and I told him, to get an electric fillet knife.

And I told him, once you start filling it.

If you can cut that ski off of that Sandtrout.

You can, you can fillete any fish.

And he thought it was going to take a long period of time, but it didn'’’t.

And he put the fork down and just cut the skin right off the meat.

And, you know, stuff like that, you know, nobody ever talks about things like that because, you know, that's not the focal point.

The focal point is he was murdered.

And people know that I miss him, my family miss him, and Gianna, you know, she's going to have to go her entire life without her father.

She's going to have to relive this over and over again.

The fact that when you look at George, she's going to see a person there with her father.

We're going to see a person that was killed due to police brutality, and the man went on his neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds.

Chauvin and George Floyd will forever be household names because he killed my brother, and my brother was an innocent bystander.

But Gianna, she's going to see somebody who is a murderer.

She's going to see somebody who took her father from her and she can'’’t walk the aisle with her father.

She can't have a daddy, father dance.

She's fatherless, just like so many other individuals who had the same.

When I say the same, they had the same death, all due to police departments not getting rid of the bad cops.

They show you.

You can clearly see in some of the like paperwork that this person was doing this and this person was doing this and this person complained about it.

Then this person complained about it, but they are still there.

But the George Floyd Policing Act that they took away.

It needs to be back and needs to be passed because you have things like that in it.

That no chokehold was built for Eric Garner, my brother George Floyd, the no-knock warrants were Breonna Taylor.

You also have people with mental health.

You need to be able to de-escalate the situation and understand that communication is the key.

That's that's it.

Communication is the key.

You go out for that.

Police officers use that need.

They need to have their body cameras on at all the time.

Dash cams need to be on it all the time.

If you cut them off, you have something to hide because they probably take like 20, 30 seconds before it clicks back on.

You also, they're going to have that like that particular roster showing like if you work in New York and then you come to Vermont to get a job after you had just murdered someone you shouldn't be able to get a job here.

But the way it's set up, you can go anywhere after doing something terrible to someone.

You can go to another police department and get a job there.

We don't want that.

You know, if you if you that much of a terrible person that you murder somebody and leave that particular department because they fired you and go somewhere else to another police department, that's causing a lot of problems.

And that's one of the biggest reasons that people are dying.

Because they're hiring the same people, the same people that don't care and they showed you, they don't care.

They just they're for a job and to do whatever they want to do.