WELCOME TO ASK THE DNR ON WCMU ON PUBLIC TELEVISION.

TONIGHT WE ASK YOUR QUESTIONS TO THE PAM OF DNR EXPERTS, AND THAT IS COMING UP NEXT.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ HI.

I AM BOB GARDENER.

WE ARE HERE WITH ANOTHER EDITION OF ASK THE DNR.

YOU ALWAYS SEE THIS ON PUBLIC TELEVISION.

WCMU IS ONE OF THE TWO OR THREE STATIONS, I THINK, THAT DOES THIS, AND DURING THE YEAR.

REALLY, REALLY PLEASED TO BE HERE.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU THE FOLKS THAT WILL BE ANSWERING THE PHONE.

WE HAVE DAVE HAUGHT ON THERE.

DAVE HAS BEEN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER FOR A LONG TIME.

DAVE IS IN THE HAT THERE.

THEN SUE, SHE HAS BEEN HERE MANY TIMES BEFORE, SO WHEN YOU CALL IN A QUESTION, THEY WILL TRY AND MAKE GOOD SENSE OF IT AND, AND, AND BRING IT IN HERE PURCHASE WE WILL ASK THE QUESTIONS TO THE THREE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE.

LET ME INTRODUCE THE THREE EXPERTS.

CHAD STEWART IS HERE.

OF COURSE, HE IS THE DEER BIOLOGIST, BUT A WILDLIFE BIOLOGIST WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES.

CHAD, WE HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY FORTNITE HAVE YOU COME IN HERE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I REALLY DO.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THEN, OF COURSE, MARK FISHERIES BIOLOGIST OUT OF CADILLAC.

A GREAT GUY.

WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK WIN A QUESTION REAL SOON HERE.

OF COURSE, JOE.

JOE MOLLY NAR.

YOU MAY REMEMBER HIS DAD, DEAN, 150 YEARS OR SO.

HE PROBABLY ONLY ABOUT 70 RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

JUST TURNED 70.

>> JUST TURNED 70.

DOING WELL?

>> DOING VERY WELL.

>> DOING WELL.

WE'LL GET BACK TO THE BIG BEAR HE SHOT, TOO, SOMETIME DURING THE EVENING HERE.

THANK YOU ALL.

REALLY GLAD YOU ARE HERE.

MARK, GIVE US A RUNDOWN, AS YOU DO FOR SALMON THIS YEAR.

>> THE GOOD NEWS WE DID NOT GET HIT BY LIGHTENING THIS FALL.

YEAH.

IT WENT WELL.

WE FINISHED UP THE TAKE YESTERDAY.

OUR NUMBERS OF CHINOOK WERE BOOED.

WE HAD 3500 THAT WE HANDLED SO FAR.

THEY WERE GOING TO HAN DEAL FEW MORE TONIGHT.

IT SHOULD BE FREE FISH PASSAGE ON MONDAY.

IT SHOULD BE OPENED UP, SO THE STEEL HEAD, ANY KINGS THAT ARE LEFT CAN KEEP COMING.

YEAH.

CHINOOK SALMON WENT WELL.

>> LET'S GO BACK.

REMEMBER, YOU REMEMBER VERY WELL AFTER THE CAREER.

YEAH.

AND SO, SO THERE WAS WORRY YOU WERE NOT GOING TO COLLECT A ENOUGH STEELHEAD TO PLAN.

BUT THAT CHANGED BECAUSE YOU WERE GOOD IN HOW YOU HANDLED THAT.

>> YEAH.

SO, WE ACTUALLY UTILIZED THE PLATTE RIVER.

FOR ANYONE FAMILIAR, THAT IS WHERE WE DO A CO LO SALMON.

WE USE THE RIVER, STEALHEAD DOES GET A GOOD RUN.

IT WAS A LOT MORE LABOR FOR US.

A LOT MORE LABOR-INTENSIVE.

WE HAD TO NET THE FISH.

WE PUT THEM ON A TRUCK.

TRUCK THEM UP TO THE HATCHERY WHERE WE WERE GOING TO DO THE EGG TAKE, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS, IT WORKED OUT.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE STEELHEAD.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING REPAIRED AT THE MANISTEE.

THE ALARM SYSTEMS ARE BACK UP AND RUNNING AND BETTER, SO HOPEFULLY, UM, WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO DEAL WELL THAT PROBLEM AGAIN.

UM, BUT AGAIN, WHEN YOU GET HIT BY LIGHTNING.

BUT IF DO YOU.

THE 2358BACK IS INCREDIBLE.

WE DID TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY SOMETHING NEW AND LEARN.

AND SO WE ARE PRETTY HAPPY THE WAY WE WERE ABLE TO GET IT DONE, ALSO LEARN A LOT IN THE PROCESS.

>> OK.

OK.

OK.

WELL, LETS' START OFFZ WITH A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

WE ACTUALLY HAD SOMEBODY SEND IN A QUESTION.

USE A STAMP.

USE SNAIL MAIL.

THIS, THIS IS INCREDIBLE STUFF.

AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH, THE TRANSFER OF WOOD OVER THE BRIDGE AND BACK AND FORTH AND THERE WERE SOME REAL STIFF REGULATIONS ON THAT, AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN.

MARK, WHY DOWN THE EXPLAIN THAT REALLY, OR JOE, TELL US, IT IS REALLY NOT DNR THAT MAKES THOSE CALLS.

>> YEAH, GO AHEAD, JOE.

>> YEAH, AS FAR AS ANY TYPE OF MOVEMENT BAN FOR FIREWOOD OR LOGS, THAT IS HANDLED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE IN RURAL DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT, SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT TRANSPORTING FIREWOOD ACROSS THE URU.P.

OR WHATEVER, CONTACT LOCAL BRANCH OF THE MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND RURAL DEPARTMENT.

>> DNR DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT?

>> NO WE DON'T.

>> OK.

THE OTHER THING, TOO.

A GATHERING OF BIG NEWS, IT IS A COOL THING, BUT IT IS NOT A REAL BIG DEAL, I WOULD ASSUME.

>> IT IS PRETTY COOL.

WHEN YOU HAVE AN EXPERIENCE LIKE THAT.

YOU?

SEE AN ANIMAL THAT IS MELAN NICE TICK WHICH TO BE ON THE RARE SIDE.

THE EXCEPTION IN MICHIGAN IS SQUIRREL.

WE HAVE FOX SKIR RELS WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THEY ARE MORE RARE ON AVERAGE THAN THE OPPOSITE, WHICH IS ALIBI KNOW.

>> MORE THAN ALBINOS?

>> YES.

TYPICALLY YOU SEE FEWER ANIMALS LIKE THAT, WHAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE SPECIAL, IT IS A GRAY FOX.

HERE'S THE COOL PART ABOUT THIS, THOUGH, THAT WAS REPORTED THROUGH THE EYES IN THE FIELD APP.

THAT IS PAUSE WE HAVE BEEN NOTICING A DOWNWARD TREND IN GRAY FOXES ACROSS THE STATE, SO OUR BIOLOGIST PUT FORWARD A PRESS RELEASE.

WE ARE TRYING TO CAPTURE SIGHTINGS OF GRAY FOX AROUND THE STATE SO WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THERE IS LOCAL FOOTHOLDS HANGING OUT FOR THEM.

AND POTENTIALLY, IMPLEMENTING A STUDY TO START LOOKING AT SURVIVAL, SO THAT IMAGE WAS SUBMITTED THROUGH OUR EYES IN THE FIELD PROGRAM, WHICH YOU CAN GO ON-LINE, AND LOOK UP EYES IN THE FIELD MICHIGAN DNR AND LOOK ON THE MICHIGAN HUNT, FISH, DNR, MICHIGAN DNR HUNT, FISH APP, THERE IS ICE IN THE FIELD LINK THERE.

YOU CAN REPORT IF YOU SAW GRAY FOX.

THE BIOLOGIST ARE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHERE GRAY FOXES ARE BEING SEEN BECAUSE T THEY HAVE BEEN UNSEEMINGLY A DOWNWARD TREND.

>> OK.

OK.

THEN, THE OTHER THING ABOUT GRAY FOXES, THEY CAN CLIMB?

>> YES.

>> YES.

THEY CAN CLIMB.

THEY CAN CLIMB.

I SAW ONE IN A DEER STAND ONE TIME, THAT WAS ALEAP, ON A PLATFORM UP THERE.

UNBELIEVABLE.

>> INCREDIBLE ANIMALS.

YEAH.

I DID NOT KNOW THAT.

UNTIL I SAW THAT AND STARTED, STARTED LOOKING INTO IT A LITTLE BIT.

OH, HEY, JOE, THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG DEAL TONIGHT, TOO.

HOW FAR AWAY FROM RECREATIONAL FEEDING CAN I HUNT?

>> SO RECENTLY, THE LEGISLATURE WENT THROUGH AND PASSED A LAW THAT THE GOVERNOR SIGNED, THAT ALLOWS FOR RECREATIONAL FEEDING IN MICHIGAN.

SO THE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMISSION, THEY ARE NOT THE ONES WHO PASSED IT.

SO WE ARE BOUND BY WHAT THE LEGISLATURE PASSED.

SO THE REALITY IS, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF IS, IS THAT FEE THAT YOU HAVE OUT WITHIN 300 FEET OF YOUR RESIDENTS, CREATING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO HARVEST DEER OVER?

I AM GETTING THIS QUESTION A LOT IN THE CADILLAC OFFICE.

WHAT I AM RECOMMENDING TO PEOPLE, AGAIN, IF YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE DEER BLIND, YOU ARE PROBABLY TOO CLOSE.

>> YOU ARE PROBABLY TOO CLOSE.

>> YEAH.

IF YOU WANT TO TAKE AWAY ANY CONCERN, ANY DOUBT, ANY TYPE OF QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, IF YOU THINK YOU ARE DOOR CLOSE, FIVE DAYS BEFORE YOU START HUNTING, QUIT FEEDING FEEDING THE DEAR DEER.

I REALIZE PEOPLE LIKE WATCHING THE DEER.

IF YOU STOP FEEDING FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE SEASON STARTS FOR YOU.

STOP AROUND NOVEMBER 10th THE DEER ARE GOING TO CLEAN EVERYTHING UP IN.

SO THAT WAY YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE PUT INTO A COMPROMISING SITUATION.

>> BY THE WAY, THAT QUESTION DID COME FROM CADILLAC, TOO.

MY HOMETOWN.

OK.

THE ONE FROM BEN ZY.

MUZZLELOADING SEASON, WHY BOTHER IF IT IS JUST THREE DAYS?

I GET THAT.

BUZZ YOU CAN USE THE M MUZZLELOADER FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON, TOO.

U CAN USE THE MUZZLELOADER DURING ANY LEGAL FIREARM SEASON.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED WITH IN MANY PARTS OF THE LOWER PENINSULA IS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET ANTLESS HAR VEST TO A SUFFICIENT POINT.

EVEN A BALANCE POINT WITH THE ANTLER DEER AND LOOKED AT THIS, EVALUATED THIS OVER, OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST REGULATION CYCLE.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE RECOGNIZE IS THAT A LOT OF HUNTERRING USING THAT LATE ANALYST OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND SHOOT THEIR ANTERLESS DEER, SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE.

WE ARE TRYING TO GET INTO THAT SAN LITTLE BIT BETTER INSTEAD OF DRAWING OUT THE LONGER PERIOD WHERE THEY MAY BE WANTING TO HUNT BUNGS.

>> THERE WERE AREAS, TOO, YOU NET ON THIS YEAR'S, AGAIN, IT IS NOT A MUZZLELOADER SEASON FOR THE LOWER PENINSULA.

IT IS A DECEMBER FIREARM DEER SEASON.

THE ENTIRE LOWER PENINSULA FOR THIS THREE DAYS YOU CAN HUNT WITH THE NORMAL FIREARM.

>> OK.

YEAH.

>> THE UPPER PENINSULA IS STILL A TRUE MUZZLELOADING SEASON.

YEAH.

>> YEAH.

OK.

AND FROM MECOSTA COUNTY, YEAH, IT IS A COOL QUESTION -- THEY CLAIM WE NEED TO TAKE MORES DO DURING HUNTING SEASON.

IF YOU SPEND TIME OUT WILLING, IS IT TRUE.

WHY DOESES A DOE TAG COST MORE FOR A CENTER?

THAT IS SET BY THE LEDGE LAWYER TURE ANYWAY.

>> A DOE TAG COST MORE FOR A SEASON?

>> YEAH.

I THINK WHAT THEY MAY BE TALKING ABOUT.

I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE FEE STRUCTURE IN MY HEAD, BUT WE HAVE SENIOR DEER TAGS.

WE HAVE SENIOR FISHING LICENSES THEY DO GET A REDUCED RATE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IN OUR FEE STRUCTURE, THERE IS A SENIOR ANTLERLESS DEER TAG THEY HAVE TO PAY THE FULL $20 BUT AGAIN, AS BOB HAD STATED THAT THE FEE STRUCTURE.

AGAIN, WE HAVE NOT HAD A RAISE OF OUR LICENSE COSTS SINCE A DOZEN YEARS.

>> MAYBE 12-13 YEARS, I CANNOT REMEMBER EXACTLY.

THAT IS SET BY THE LEGISLATURE.

THE DNR WE CAN NOT SAY WE ARE IN AND YOU IFING CRUNCH WHICH WE ARE NOW.

WE CANNOT SAY WE ARE GOING TO RAISE THE COST OF DEER LICENSES ORPHANING LICENSES TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO RUN OUR FISH HATCHERIES OR DO THE WILDLIFE OPENINGS THAT WE NEED TO TO, THE ONLY WAY THAT WE CAN INCREASE HUNTING AND FISHING LICENSES TO GET BETTER REVENUE IS THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE.

EXACTLY.

CAN I ADD, WE DO HAVE DIRECTOR DOES HAVE AUTHORITY TO REDUCE TAG COST IN CERTAIN AREAS BUT FROM IMPACT STANDPOINT, WE HAVE DONE THAT IN OUR AREA.

WE ARE 87.

WE HAVE $5 DMU47 TAGS.

WE HAVE DISCOUNTED LICENSES AS RECENTLY AS LAST YEAR WITH THE EXTEND LATE ANTLERLESS SEASON THAT IS NOW GONE.

AND WHAT WE NOTICED IS THAT THE HARVEST NUMBERS FOR ANTLERLESS DEER DO NOT CHANGE WITH FEE REDUCTIONS.

I KNOW THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT MAKE SENSE.

IF THINGS ARE CHEAPER, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT GOES INTO ACTUALLY HUNTING, HARVESTING AND PROCESSING A DEER, THE LICENSE WINDS UP BEING THE CHEAPEST FACTORS IN ALL OF THIS.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

IN A SIDE-BY-SIDE.

>> CAN I HAVE MY CROSSBOW OUT WITHOUT A BOLT IN?

THIS IS FROM LEWISTON YEAH.

THERE IS MULTIPLE WAYS TO TRANSPORT.

ONE SECOND.

SORRY.

I GOT TO RUN THROUGH THEM IN MY HEAD A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS.

AGAIN, THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE.

THESE ARE ALLSTATE OUT.

IT'S THE DNR DOES NOT HAVE AUTHORITY TO CHANGE.

THEY HAVE DIFFERENT RULES AND REQUIRE PRESIDENTS WHETHER YOU ARE OPERATING ORV, WHICH INCLUDES THE SIDE-BY-SIDE, IF YOU ARE IN A VEHICLE OR IN A BOAT.

AGAIN, BOATS YOU CAN RIDE WITH UNCASED FIREARM, IT CANNOT BE LOADED.

WELL THE BOAT IS UNDERWAY.

WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH ORV'S, THE STATES THAT YOUR FIREARM DOESN'T HAVE TO BE CASED IF IT HAS MANUFACTURED GUN LOCK TRIGGER LOCKING MECHANISM IN PLACE ON THOSE.

BUT I BELIEVE THAT STATUTE, I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT OFF THE TIP OF MY TONGUE.

BUZZ I BELIEVE ON THE ORV, IT IS REQUIRED TO BE CASED OR TAKEN DOWN IF YOU ARE USING RECURVE.

>> YEAH.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

IF YOU ARE IN A MOTOR VEHICLE, THEN YOU COULD, AS LONG AS YOU DID NOT HAVE IT BOLT IN IT, IT WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE CASED IN A VEHICLE, BUT AGAIN, THE STATUTES DON'T HAVE THE SAME RESTRICTIONS AT TIMES.

A YEAH.

BE CAREFUL.

BE CERTAIN.

>> GREAT QUESTION HERE.

DNR FOLLOWS THE SCIENCE, CHAD, FOR HUNTING, WHY DOES THE SEASON BEGIN ON NOVEMBER 15th RATHER THAN WAITING FOR IT TO BE OVER, OR START RATHER THAN, RATHER THAN WAITING FOR THE RUT TO BE OVER, A AND START DECEMBER FIRST.

THIS QUESTION COMES UP EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE.

>> YEAH.

UM,.

>> IT DOESN'T SEEM TO AFFECT THE HERD?

>> WELL, SO A LOT OF THE RUTTING ACTIVITY, A LOT OF THE BREEDING ACTIVITY ACTUALLY OH COARSE IN EARLY NOVEMBER, SO OBVIOUSLY GOING TO TRICKLE, CERTAINLY, INTO NOVEMBER 15th BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS, SO FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DOES CONCEIVING DURING THE RUT.

MAJORITY OF THE FAWNS ARE GETTING BURN AT THAT PEEK TIME AT END OF MAY, EARLY JUNE SO WE KNOW THEY ARE GETTING BRED ON THE FIRST RUT CYCLE.

THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS WHAT HUNTERS WANT.

WE HAVE DONE MULTIPLE SURVEYS IN THE PAST.

80% OF THE DEER HUNTERS WHEN WE SURVEY THEM SUPPORT MAINTAINING THAT NOVEMBER 15th START DATE.

>> EXACTLY.

TO GET FOUR OUT OF FIVE TO AGREE ON ANYTHING IS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

SO THAT IS A STRONG ARGUMENT FOR KEEPING IT IF NOTHING ELSE.

>> YEAH.

YEAH.

IT IS NOT THAT THE DOES DON'T GET BRED AND OTHER BUCKS THAT WILL BE READY TO BRING BREED.

>> FROM ATLANTA, THIS IS GOOD.

YES, THIS IS UP IN YOUR NECK OF THE WOODS.

IT IS THE BLACK RIVER RANCH PROPERTY OPEN FOR WALKING IN AND HUNTING?

DOES IT HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS IF WELL, SO I KNOW THAT IT HAS BEEN -- OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, UNFORTUNATELY, SINCE IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE NORMAL WORK AREA, THAT I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

BUZZ YOU FROM TO CONTACT THE GAL LORD CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER, UNLESSED THAT, UNLESS YOU -- I THINK THEY STILL WORKING ON THE PLAN IN HO TO YOU OUT LIES THAT PROPERTY.

YES, IT IS PURCHASED.

YES, IT IS IN HAND.

YES, IT WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

I CAN'T TELL YOU TODAY YOU CAN GO AND WALK ON THAT PROPERTY.

I KNOW THERE IS STAFF AMONGST MULTIPLE AGENCIES WORKING ON WHAN THAT PLAN LOOK LIKES IN.

THERE IS THINGS THAT NEED ADDRESSED BUT JOE HAD THE BEST ADVICE IN CONTACTING THE GAYLORD OFFICE.

>> AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.

>> THE GAYLORD OFFICE.

I BET THERE IS SOME FACET OF IT OPEN ANYWAY.

YOU NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT.

PRUDENVILLE.

MARK?

A GREAT QUESTION.

WHEN THE BIG SHIPS TAKE ON WATER, CAN THEY BE ELECT TRICALLY CHARGED TO KILL ANY INVASIVES LIKE THE SOO LOCKS.

I.

>> DON'T KNOW.

HAVE NEVER HEARD OF AN ELECTRICAL CHARGE.

LE THERE ARE WAYS OF DOING IT.

THERE IS CHEMICAL TREATMENTS, THAT CAN KILL ANY LIVING ORGANISM, YOU KNOW.

>> WOULD YOU HAVE TO START THAT OFF?

>> YEAH.

BEFORE, YEAH.

DO IT BEFORE THEY GET HERE.

BEFORE THEY GET TOT THE GREAT LAKES?

RIGHT.

>> YEP.

>> SO THAT WOULD TAKE INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT I WOULD ASSUME.

I WOULD SUPPOSE.

>> YEP.

OOP THERE IS NOT MUCH YOU CAN DO ONCE THEY GET GREAT LAKES.

DO YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK IN HOW THE DEER E TAG PROGRAM IS GOING FOR HUNTERS SO FOR THAT WELL, I HAVE TALKED TO A FEW HUNTERS, THAT HAVE UTILIZED THE E KILL TAGS.

MANY OF THEM, MYSELF INCLUDED, I WENT BACK AND FORTH, LIKE WHEN I BOUGHT THE LICENSE THIS YEAR, I AM GOING TO BUY A PHYSICAL KILL TAG OR EMBRACE THE TECHNOLOGY AND BUY THE E KILL TAGGING?

I ULTIMATELY CHOSE TO GO WITH MY TRADITIONAL KILL TAGS.

IF NOTHING ELSE, IF I AM UNSUCCESSFUL, I FOR WHATEVER, I COLLECT THEM.

I HAVE THEM GOING BACK ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE OLD PAPERBACK TAGS.

SO I, I WENT WITH THE TRADITIONAL KILL TAGS MYSELF.

I HAVE TALKED TO A FEW HUNTERS -- ACTUALLY, I JUST TALKED TO SOMEONE THE OTHER DAY THAT HARVESTED HIS NICE EIGHT POINT HERE A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, AND AS HE WAS GETTING EVERYTHING BACK TO THE TRUCK, HIS PHONE FALLS OUT OF THE POCKET AS HE IS SHUTTING THE DOOR, AND ENDED UP BREAKING HIS HIS PHONE.

HE HAD BOUGHT A COMBO TAG SO HE WAS IMPATIENTLY WAITING FOR THE NEW PHONE TO GET SHIPPED TO HIM, SO HE COULD GET THE APP BACK DOWNLOADED ON IT, SO HE WOULD BE GET BACK OUT HUNTING, SO THERE ARE GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR IT, ESPECIALLY WHERE IT IS ONE OF THOSE MAYBE YOU HAVE A KID IN COLIN, AS THEY COME BACK FROM COLLEGE.

I DON'T KNOW IF I AM GOING TO HUNT.

HEY, I GOT THE WEEKEND OFF.

THEY WANT TO GO OUT.

THEY HAVE NOT BOUGHT THEIR LICENSE YET.

THEY CAN BUY THAT OFF THE PHONE.

SO WE ARE TALKING TO SOME PEOPLE WHOLE ARE EMBRACING IT.

THEY ARE LIKING IT A LOT.

WITH THAT, AGAIN, JUST REMEMBER THAT YOU HAVE THE APP DOWNLOADED.

THOSE E KILL TAGS ARE ONLY IF YOU BUY IT ON THE AND.

IF YOU GO THOUGH WEBSITE, AND BUY THEM THROUGH OUR ANY KILL TAGS THROUGH THE WEBSITE.

THOSE STILL HAVE KILL TAGS THAT GET MAILED TO YOU.

IF YOU ARE GOING TO THE WEBSITE, YOU HAVE TO GET WAIT FOR THE TAGS TO GET MAILED TO YOU.

WE ACTUALLY SHUT DOWN THE PURCHASE OF KILL TAGS NOVEMBER FIRST ON THE WEBSITE.

YOU CAN GO TO ANY STORE AND BUY FROM THERE.

YEAH.

YOU CAN STILL BUY THE E KILL TAGS ON THE PHONE, BUT WE DON'T WANT FOLKS THINKING THEY ARE BUYING E KILL TAGS THEN NOT HAGUE THAT FOR THE FIREARM DEER SEASON.

>> YOU MADE ME FEEL VERY OLD.

BECAUSE WHEN I STARTED DEER HUNTING, THE OLD TAGS, METAL TAGS, MY0th OPENING DAY IN A ROW, GOOD LORD THERE AND THE CREEKS DON'T RISE, AS FORD USED TO SAY, 60 YEARS.

60 YEARS OF DEER HUNTING.

YOU DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS LIKE BE THE OLD DAYS OF DEER HUNTING INYEAH.

YEAH.

I SORT OF DO.

YEAH.

>> ONE MORE THING WITH E KILL TAGS.

REMEMBER WE ALSO HAVE THE REGISTRATION.

SOS, WHEN YOU VALIDATE THE KILL TAG.

YOU HAVE TO REGISTER YOUR DEER.

IT IS TWO PARTS.

SO AGAIN, I SHOOT A DEER.

I USE THE PAPER KILL TAG.

I HAVE TO GO ON-LINE TO REG FOR THE DEER WITH THEY E KILL TAG, YOU HAVE TO VALIDATE YOUR KILL TAG THEN YOU HAVE TO THEN HIT REGISTER THE DEER WHICH YOU CAN DO THROUGH THE APP.

I GAIN, THIS INFORMATION IS CRITICAL FOR THE BIOLOGIST TO LOOK AT WHERE DEER ARE BEING HARVESTED.

AND, AND, WE ONLY ASK YOU WHAT TOWNSHIP.

WE ARE NOT ASKING SHALL YOU, OH, WHERE IS THE HONEY HOLE.

HAVING THE INFORMATION BROKE DOWN WITHIN THE COUNTIES REALLY HELP TO GET UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE POPULATIONS ARE?

WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WILL PUT THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THAT FIRST YEAR WE HAD THEM IN RUSSIA.

WE HAD THEM IN CUBA.

WE HAD THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF LAKE SUPERIOR.

CUBA?

ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE PEOPLE ARE PUTTING THE PINS EVERYWHERE.

PLEASE LIST THE RIGHT COUNTY THAT YOU ARE HARVESTING IN.

>> I BET YOU DOES MAKE IT EASIER TO BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO SEE THOSE, SEE THOSE NUMBERS, AND OF COURSE, IT WILL TAKE A LONG TIME TO FIND THOSE, TO GROUND TRUTH THOSE, OR WHATEVER, TOO.

BUT, HAS THAT,S THAT MADE THE JOB ANY, ANY BETTER OR MORE ACCURATE.

WHAT I THINK IS HELPFUL, WITH THE ON-LINE HARVEST REPORTING, WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD THROUGH THE POSTSEASON SURVEY, THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT TOTAL HARVEST BY COUNTY, WITHIN SEASON, HE CAN NOW CREATE A FINER SCALE TO THAT, MORE THAN WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO, SO WE CAN LOOK AT SAY NEWAYGO COUNTY, MECOSTA COUNTY, KALKASKA COUNT TOY SEE IF THERE IS A VARIATION OCCURRING WITHIN A COUNTY.

NEVER HAD THE ABILITY TO DO THAT BEFORE, SO AT LEAST, THAT I ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO THINK THROUGH, SO NEWER AND MORE CREATIVE MANAGEMENT OPTIONS OR MANAGEMENT UNITS IN THE FUTURE.

DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAD TO DO THAT NECESSARILY YET, BUT GIVES US AN OPTION WE NEVER HAD AVAILABLE BEFORE.

>> SO THE SCIENCE IS BETTER?

>> YEAH.

THE SCIENCE IS BETTER PROVIDED THE HUNTERS ARE REPORTING, THE HUNTERS ARE ACCURATE WITH THE REPORTS.

HUNTING LOCATION, WHERE, WHERE THE PREVIOUS JOB WAS IN CUBA IS NOT EFFECTIVE AS ONE THAT IS REASONABLY CLOSE TO TO THE TOWNSHIP WHERE IT IS.

A LOT DEPENDS ON THE HUNTERS BEING FOURTH COMING IN TERMS OF WHERE THE GENERAL AREA WHERE ANIMALS ARE HARVESTED.

THAT GIVES US BETTER INFORMATION.

>> OK.

SEND THAT MAN AND CIGAR.

>> YEAH.

>> ANYWAY.

A SPONGE GY MOTH IN ROSS COMMON COUNTY.

IT IS ANYONE PLANNING ON DOING ANYTHING.

AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE.

YOU HAVE HEARD ABOUT THIS SPONGY SMOOTH OK.

I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

>> IT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE AS BAD.

A FEW YEARS AGO I REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS REALLY BAD IN THE CADILLAC AREA.

YES.

YES.

DID NOT SEEM TO BE AS BAD.

THAT WILL COME BACK AGAIN.

THAT IS EVERY FEW YEARS WE GET, WE GET THE EGYPTIAN MOTH.

OK.

WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO EXPAND ANY FESS APT HUNTING IN THE KNOW NORTHERN LOWER PENINSULA.

>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.

I, I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE HEARD ANY RUMORS OR HUM PLING ABOUT THAT YET.

AT LEAST, CERTAINLY NOT THE YEAR.

I DON'T KNEE THE FUTURE WILL HOLD.

BUT THAT IS PROBABLY A BETTER QUESTION FOR OUR WORKERS.

SO I WOULD SAY, HOLDING, HOLDING PATTERN FOR NOW, BUT ULTIMATELY, WE DON'T KNOW QUIET YET.

>> OK.

THERE IS ANYWAY TO REGISTER THE DEER WITHOUT A CELL PHONE OR COMPUTER AND YOU DO HARVEST CONTACT THE LOCAL CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER.

AGAIN, CALL CADILLAC, SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN, OUR DETROIT OFFICES, SOUTHWEST, PLAINWELL, GIVE US A CALL.

WE CAN HP DO YOU THAT.

ALSO ON THE DEER GUIDES WE DO HAVE A PHONE NUMBER SPECIFIC PHONE NUMBER TO THAT.

THAT WILL HAVE TRUN TO ASSIST IN GETTING THE DEER REGISTERED.

>> A QUESTION FROM KALAMAZOO.

ON THE VIEWING AREA A LITTLE BIT BUT GLAD TO SITE.

I HEAR A LARGE NUMBER OF DEER HAVE DIED FROM EHG THIS YEAR.

>> I DID SEES.

>> YEAH.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

>> YEAH.

OK.

IT IS IT THE WORSE YEAR THAN USUAL.

THIS IS THE THIRD YEAR IN A ROW WHERE WE HAVE GOTTEN HIT WE GOT SIGNIFICANT LYNN THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE STATE.

NOW IT VARIES AND SHUFFLES AROUND IN TERMS OF WHICH AREAS ARE GETTING HIT.

THIS YEAR, THE WESTERN PORTION OF WRACKSON COUNTY, PARTS OF CALHOUN COUNTY, THEY ARE GETTING A LOT OF REPORTS.

WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF REPORTS.

A LOT OF DEAD DEER IN THOSE AREAS.

EXPLAIN AGAIN.

THAT IS THE IN SECS, FLIES.

A YEAH.

SO RIGHT.

THERE IS SO MANY AC CRY NONES WITH DEER DISEASES SO IT IS A VIRAL DISEASE.

IT IS TRANSMITTED TYPICALLY IN THE FALL BY A BITING MIDGE SO IF YOU PICK UP A CAN OF INSECTICIDE AND THE, THAT IS WHATS A MIDGE IS, IT IS A SMALL TINY BITING FLY, THAT TRANSMITS THIS VIRUS PICKS FROM OTHER DEER AND LIVESTOCK AND GIVES A FEVER TO THE WHITETAIL DEER T. ANIMAL CAN BE HEALTHY.

WITHIN 7 DAYS IT IS DEAD.

YOU GET A SENTION OF WHERE IT IS OCCURRING WHEN YOU START SEEING DEAD DEER IN AROUND WATER SOURCES IN THE FALL.

THAT IS A CLASSIC SIGN.

IT CAN BE INCREDIBLY IMPACTFUL LOCALLY TO A DEER POPULATION.

>> 23409 ACROSS THE BOARD BUT IN DRAINAGE OR RIVER SYSTEM.

YEAH.

PEOPLE WILL GO ON THE PROPERTY.

LITERALLY SEE 20-30-40 DEER AND SEE 100 DEER IN A THE WATER.

IT IS SHOCKING, AND YOU CAN SMELL IT.

IT IS VERY JARRING.

THE THING TO KNOW ABOUT EHD IS THAT IT IS VERY PATCHY IN HOW IT OPERATES, SO YOU CAN GO IN ONE TOWNSHIP, AND IT CAN BE INCREDIBLY IMPACTFUL.

YOU CAN SEE MASSIVE DIEOFFS.

YOU CAN GO DOWN THE ROAD.

GET INTO ANOTHER TOWNSHIP.

NONE OF THE DEER ARE AFFECTED WHATSOEVER.

IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT DISEASE TO MANAGE FOR.

TYPICALLY, THAT TRANSMISSION HALT WHEN YOU GET A FIRST HARD PROST THAT KILLS THOSE MUDGE THAT TRANSMIT THE VIRUS.

THE OTHER ANIMALS THAT SURVIVE WERE THE DISEASE, TYPICALLY PASS ON THAT HAVE IMMUNITY FOR UPCOMING YEARS THEN PASS IT TON THE FAWNS, SO USUALLY WHEN YOU ARE HIT, IN ONE YEAR IT GIVES YOU A BUILDIN IMMUNITY THAT ALLOWS THE DEER HEARD TO RECOVER AND BUILD UP.

IT IS TERRIBLE IN THE MOMENT.

IS DEPRESSED HUNTING FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.

BUT YOUR HERD DOES RECOVER AND GET BACK.

A.

>> I AM NOT SURPRISED.

THIS CAME FROM KALAMAZOO.

>> YEAH.

OK.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE -- LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR DAD FOR A MINUTE.

THE BEAR HARVEST.

>> YEAH.

YEAH.

SO YOUR DAD ROUND UP SHOOTING A BIG BEAR ON DRUMMOND ISLAND SNOOP YEAH.

SHOT A NICE 250-POUND BEAR.

ANOTHER GREAT OPPORTUNITY THAT I WAS ABLE TO SPEND TIME WITH THEM AND FIRST NIGHT WE HAD ONE BEAR COME IN, THAT WAS CLOSER TO 200 POUNDS THEN THE SECOND ONE CAME IN.

AND YOU KNOW, IT WAS QUICK HUNT.

HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY AND YOU KNOW, THAT IS WHAT HUNTING IS ABOUT, RIGHT.

IT IS THE OPPORTUNITY TOW GET BACK WITH FRIENDS FANNEDLY, GET OUT AND ENJOY THE HUNTING HERITAGE THAT WE HAVE THAT WE SHARE THAT WE HAVE GROWN UP AROUND.

>> YOU AND YOUR DAD HAVE HUNTED TOGETHER FOR AN AWFULLY LONG TIME.

AND I HAD THE BEN FIT OF HUNTING WITH YOU AND YOUR BROTHER AND YOUR DAD.

I MET FOR MANY YEARS AM WE HAD WATER FALL TOGETHER.

>> YEAH.

YEAH.

SO I MEAN DAD HAS HAD THE GREAT FORTUNE SO HE TO GET THE DRUMMOND ISLAND TAG, HE HAD EVERY SINGLE PREFERENCE POINT.

26 OR 27 POINTS.

IT WAS NEVER THE RIGHT TIME.

WHILE HE WAS WORKING THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT AND JUST WITH DIFFERENT TRIPS OR DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON.

HE HELD OFF.

HE HELD OFF.

HE WAS LOOKING AT PULLING THE DOING A DAD.

LET'S GO UP TO DRUMMOND AND SEE A DIFFERENT SCENERY SO HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT SO HE DID GET HIS MICHIGAN GRAND SLAM IF YOU WANT TO AM IT.

>> YEAH.

>> YEAH.

HE SHOT TURKEY.

HE SHOT WHITE TAIL.

HE SHOT.

HE SHOT THE MICHIGAN BEAR.

HE SHOT EVERY MY MIZ BIG GAME SPECIES SO I HAVE BEEN A PART OF MOST EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE, I GUESS, MORE UNIQUE HUNTS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT IS GREAT.

TELL US BEAR SEASON GOING WELL?

FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM MY SON, IT IS.

>> SO WHAT VIZ SEEN, FOR HUNTERS COMING IN TO THE DIFFERENT CHECK STATION BETWEEN TRAVERSE CITY AND CADILLAC.

I HAVE SEEN SOME REALLY, REALLY NICE BEAR, ACTUALLY, JUST TALKED WITH -- AND FOR ME, I HAD TWO BEAR TAGS FOR RED OAK WHEN I WAS WORKING OVER THERE AND DID NOT HAVE A SINGLE OPPORTUNITY TO HARVEST BEAR.

AND HUNTERS JUST, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM WILL GET DOWN ON THEM SELFS A LITTLE BIT, IF THEY SHOOT A SMALLER BEAR 120-130-POUNDER.

>> AVERAGE BEARS.

>> YEAH.

YEAH.

I JUST TRY TO REMIND FOLKS.

THAT EVERY SINGLE, ANY BEAR YOU HARVEST IN MICHIGAN IS TRULY, TRULY A TROPHY BECAUSE THE LIMITED OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVE EGGS PE ESPECIALLY IN THE LOWER, AND I JUST HAD HELPED REGISTER A BEAR YESTERDAY WITH A GENTLEMEN WHO SHOT HIS BEAR WITH A RECURVE.

YOU KNOW?

IT WAS $120 BEAR.

HE SHOT WITH IT A RECURVE BOW.

ONE OF THOSE, JUST, YOU KNOW, IT IS, IT IS REALLY AWESOME TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THE STORIES WITH THE FOLKS THAT ARE BRINGING THEM IN.

BUT I WOULD SAY THE HARVEST IS PRETTY COMPARABLE TO YEARS IN THE PAST.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SHOT A BLACK BEAR WITH A BOW 45 YEARS AGO.

AND, AND IT WAS, IT WAS, IT WAS GREAT, YOU KNOW?

A GREAT EXPENSE AND THEN, THE OTHER BEARS THAT I SHOT IN MICHIGAN AFTER THAT USED A FIREARM, BUT IT WAS COOL SHOOT K, SHOOTING ONE WITH A BOW WAS NEAT.

FROM HERSEY, FALL TURKEY HUNTING.

MARK AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT FALL TURKEY HUNTING.

YOU JUST CAME THROUGH THE UPPER PENINSULA.

OK.

GOING, GOING AND COMING TO THE LENGTH OF THE UPPER PENINSULA.

YOU CAME THROUGH IT.

I YOU COULD NOT BELIEVE THE TURKEYS SAW UP THERE.

YEAH.

SO I WAS HEADED TO MINNESOTA TO THE BOUNDARY WATERS.

DY A CANOE TRIP.

SO ON THE BAY THROUGH THE U.P., I WENT THROUGH MARQUETTE, THEN ON THE WAY BACK, I WENT THE SOUTH, YOU KNOW, FAMILY GROUPS, I SAW ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, LIKE DON'T KNOW.

AT LEAST 8, 10, 12, I GUESS DY NOT REALIZE TURKEY HUNTING WAS SO GOOD.

YOU I KNOW, SO MANY TURKEYS IN THE U.P.

ONE OF MY PUTTIES, THE WALLEYE FISHERMAN, WENT TURKEY HUNTING FOR THE SECOND TIME.

FIRST TIME I TOOK UB THE COUNTY, 40 WE FIGURED IT WAS 44 YEARS EARLIER AND WE GOT CLOSE TO GETTING A TURKEY WHEN HE SHOT THE FIRST ONE, CHAD, A HECK OF A PLACE TO GET YOUR FIRST ONE.

YEAH.

IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

ISN'T IT.

>> OK.

OK.

NOW, THIS COMES FROM HERSEY.

WHAT IS THE REASON FOR THAT?

CHANGE TO ONE?

THE PERSON, IT IS OPEN IN MORE PLACES BUT NOT THE LIMB M LIMIT OF ONE.

>> YEAH.

I THINK IT IS BECAUSE THERE WAS -- SO I THINK, A RECENT CHANGE, THEY EXPANDED IT, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT EXPANSION, I THINK THERE WAS LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN, UM, ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE COMMISSION LEVEL, ABOUT WHAT THAT EXPANSION MEANS TO KEEP THOSE BAG LIMITS HIGHER, SO WHAT THEY DID, THEY EXPANDED IT THEN THEY REDUCED THE BAG LIMITS, LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, THEY WILL MONITOR TO SEE WHAT KIND OF IMPACT IT IS.

FALL TURKEY GENERALLY A PRETTY SMALL PARTICIPATED UNSEASON.

VERY LOW HARVEST.

SO WE'LL MONITOR WHAT THAT CHANGE LOOKS LIKE, THEN IF THE BIOLOGIST THINK THERE ARE SUPPORT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS, THEN, WITH THAT EX PANSION, I AM SURE THAT IS SOMETHING THEY ARE GOING TO REVIEW.

>> YEAH.

IT WAS 40, 40 YEARS AGO, HE WAS IN THE U.P.

DICKINSON COUNTY HAD A BAG LIMIT OF THREE.

NOT ONE PER DAY.

THEY HAD A BAG LIMIT OF THREE.

AND, BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY TURKEYS UP THERE AT THAT ONE TIME.

SO IT IS PRETTY ADJUSTABLE.

PRETTY FLEXIBLE.

FROM CADILLAC, MAKE, THE ALGAE BLOOM, IS IT SAFE TO EAT FISH FROM THAT LAKE?

>> YEAH.

GOOD QUESTION.

AND THE ANY IS YES, ASSUMING THAT THE FISH ARE NOT EATEN RAW.

SO NO SUSHI.

YEAH.

THE ALGAE BLOOM, WELL EVEN IF IT IS HARMFUL ALGAE BLOOM, WHICH IS TOXIC, WHICH IF YOU DRINK THE WATER COULD MAKE YOU SICK OR THE PET TO DRUNK THE WATER COULD MAKE THEM SICK.

THAT STILL WILL NOT AFFECT THE MEAT OF THE FISH IF YOU CATCH FISH FROM LAKE CADILLAC OR ANY LAKE IN AN ALGAE BLAME.

THAT IS FINE.

CLAN THE FISH.

OBS LIR GOING TO RINSE WHEN YOU CLEAN THEM.

YEAH.

YEAH.

NO IS GNAT A PROBLEM.

>> COOK THEM.

>> YEAH.

AND COOK THEM.

>> HEAT.

>> LAKES.

COOL.

IS THERE ANY CONCERN ALONG WITH ALGAE BLOOM BLOOM THAT PFAS INVOLVED?

>> WELL, THERE MAY BE PFAS IN THE LAKE, IN FACT, THERE ARE SOME.

I DON'T KNOW HOW SEVERE IT IS.

I DON'T THINK IT IS AS SEVERE AS OTHER PLACES IN THE STATE.

BUT, THE TWO ARE NOT RELATED.

THE TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.

THE ALGAE IS NOT RELATED TO THE PFAS.

>> OK.

>> THE ALGAE, IT IS NEUTRA CRYPT ISSUE.

IN OTHER WORDINGS WE ARE GETTING TOO MANY NUTRIENTS INTO LAKE CADILLAC THEN WE ARE DOING THINGS LIKE KILLING THE PLANTS AND SO WHEN YOU KILL THE AQUATIC PLANS THAT FREEZE UP THE NUTRIENTS FOR AL GOY THEN TAKE OVER.

SO WE NEED TO GET A BETTER HANDLE ON WHERE THOSE NEW TRE YENS ARE COMING FROM, HOW THEY ARE GETTING INTO THE LAKE THEN B WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE NUTRIENT BUDGET HOW BEST TO CONTROL THAT MAYBE ONE IDEA IS LET'S GNAT ARE NOT, LET'S NOT KILL THE WEEDS AS MANY AS AQUATIC PLANTS WITH CHEMICALS BECAUSE THEY TAKE UP THE NUTRIENTS THEN WE DON'T GET THE ALGAE BLOOMS OR MAYBE THE BLOOMS WON BE AS SEVERE.

YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE SCIENCE OF IT.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

IT IS NOT JUST LIKE LAKE CADILLAC.

A LOT OF LAKES ARE EXPERIENCING THAT.

CLIMATE CHANGE, YOU KNOW, THE WARMER SEPTEMBERS AND EVEN OCTOBERS THAT WE HAVE BEEN HAVING, YOU KNOW?

IN THE PAST.

A I DON'T THINK WE HAVE HADED A FROST YET.

NO, WE HAVE NOT.

IN THE PAST, IT WOULD BE RARE TO SEE, TO SEE ALGAE BLOOM EVEN IN SEPTEMBER BUT NOW WE ARE SEEING THEM INTO OCTOBER WITH IT BEING SO WARM IN THE FALL, YOU KNOW, THE LAST 8 TO 10 FALLS.

SO YEAH.

IT IS ISSUE THAT IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO, IT IS GOING TO BE A GROUP PROJECT TO SOLVE IT.

>> AND, AND, AND, AND WE GOT ALL CORNERED UP WITH FISH STUFF.

LET'S MOVE OVER TO THE SANFORD.

OK.

>> YEP.

>> SO WHEN IS DNR GOING TO PUT MORE FISH IN THE, RESTOCK THAT?

>> I THINK THEY HAVE STARTED THAT PROCESS?

I THINK THEY STOPPED A QUITE A FEW FISH IN THERE THIS SPRING.

NOW IT IS GOING TO TAKE TIME FOR THOSE FISH TO GRE AND TO GET TO CATCHABLE SIZE, BUT MY, AGAIN, NOT MY MANAGEMENT AREA BUT MY RECOLLECTION IS THEY WERE STOCKING, THEY HAVE STOCKED WALLEYE IN THERE, AND I THINK, THEY ARE GOING TO GET MUSKY, I BLEB, THIS FALL.

>> OK.

COOL.

QUESTION FROM TAYLOR, FOLKS WATCHING DOWN IN TAYLOR.

ROW JOE, WHO IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE TIN CLUESIVE MENTORED LICENSES?

>> SO THE INCLUSIVE MENTORED LICENSE FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT, IS A LICENSE FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.

OR FOR OLDER INDIVIDUALS, BE THAT HAVE SOME GUARDIANSHIP WITH OTHER INDIVIDUALS, AND THERE IS -- IT GETS INTO THE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT DIFFERENTIATIONS, BUT THE INTENT OF IT, THE FACULTIES TO BE ABLE TO SIT THROUGH A CLASS, PASS THE CLASS, TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY HUNT, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY A REALLY, REALLY GREAT LICENSE, SO ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT PUSHED FOR THIS, AND TO MAKE, TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN IS ONE OF THIS PEA THE SERGEANTS UP HINDA LORD AREA, MIKE.

HE HAS SONS WHO HAVE DISABILITIES, AND AFTER THEY DID THEIR TWO YEARS OF APPRENTICE, OF APPRENTICE HUNTING AND THEY WERE ABLE TO GO OW, AGAIN, THEY CAN NEVER HUNT ON THEIR OWN, BUT HE, THEY CAN GO OUT, THEY CAN HUNT WITH THEM.

HE IS ABLE TO GIVE THEM DIRECTION, GUIDE THEM, MAKE SURE THEY ARE BEING SAFE, HE HAD TWO GREAT YEARS OF HUNTING WITH THEM.

THEN, ALL OF THE SUDDEN, HE DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HUNT WITH THE BOYS ANY MORE.

SO, WE, WE AS THE DEPARTMENT, WE WORKED WITH THE LEGISLATURE OFFICE, SERGEANT AND THE SON, THEY WENT AND TESTIFIED IN FRONT OF THE NRC TO HELP GET THIS INCLUSIVE MENTORED PACKAGE PASSED, SO IT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW THOSE, WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO TAKE HUNTER SAFETY, TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO HUNT, IT HAS THE SAME STRICTURE AS THE MENTORED YOUTH LICENSE AS FAR AS WHAT LICENSES THEY ARE ABLE TO GET.

THEY ARE ABLE TO APPLY FOR BEAR TAGS.

THEY ARE ABLE TO APPLY FOR ELK TAGS, AGAIN, I BELIEVE IT'S THE SAME FEE STRUCTURE OF $10.50 WHATEVER IT MAY BE BUT GAVE CALL TO THE OFFICES THEY ARE LISTED IN THE DIGEST OR THE SMALL GAME DIE HE IS GUEST.

THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION AS FAR AS WHO DOES, CLASSIFIED, OR WHO DOES MEET THE CRITERIA ARE FIT TO.

IT IS A GREAT PROGRAM.

THANKS FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

I THINK IT IS A LICENSE THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT AS OUT THERE.

SO REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE HOPEFULLY SPREAD THE WORD ON THAT.

WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE PATH FOUNDATION, AS MY SON IS AND YOUR DAD AND A BUNCH OF FOLKS.

IT IS SOMETHING REALLY COOL TOLL KNOW THAT PEOPLE WOULDN'T HAVE THESE OPPORTUNITIES ARE GETTING THEM.

AND THEN, SOUTH CAROLINA WE DID BACK WHEN I WAS COMMISSIONER 20 SOME YEARS AGO, WE, WE, ALSO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR POSSIBLE TO TO TRANSFER LICENSES TO.

YEAH.

YEP.

ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE JUST LIKE THAT IS TRANSFERRING LICENSES SO, BETWEEN OUR BEAR TAGS AND OUR ELK TAGS, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO TRANSFER A LICENSE TO SOMEONE WHO HAS AN ADVANCED ILLNESS OR TO A YOUTH AND WAS TALKING WITH A COUPLE THAT WAS REGISTERING THEIR BEAR, HE WAS REGISTERING THE BEAR, HE HAD A 2-YEAR-OLD RUNNING AROUND, ALL EXCITED, THEN AGAIN GOT TO SHARE HIS STORY THEN ALSO TALKING WITH HIM, AND ASKED THE GENTLEMEN'S WIFE.

DO YOU BEAR HUNT TOO?

HOW ABOUT YOU?

AND TALKING TO THE KID, I AM LIKE, YOU SHOOT A BEAR.

LIKE YEAH.

ALL EXCITED AND TO DO WHAT DAD WAS DOING.

WELL, ONE THING YOU COULD DO, TALKING TO SOME OF THE KIDS' MOTHER, SHE COULD START BUYING OUR PREFERENCE POINT.

AND SO, ONE ARE ONCE UP TOP THE AGE OF 16 YOU CAN TRANSFER THE LICENSE SO YOU COULD START BUYING PREFERENCE POINTS NOW.

YOU COULD GET 10, 16, 1 PUSH WHERE 14 POINTS, AND WHEN YOUR SON IS READY TO HUNT, 10, 12, 14 WHATEVER YOU FEEL IS THE RIGHT AGE THEN YOU HAVE ENOUGH POINTS BUILD UP YOU COULD TRANSFER THAT TAGGING TO THAT YOUTH SO THAT WAY THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GET OUT TO HUNT TO HUNT TOW THE AGE OF 16.

HEAED SOD MAEN IN I TIMES THAT THESE, THESE YOUNGSTERS THAT COULD NOT HUNT ARE DEALING WITH SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY ELSE'S TAG, BECAUSE WE WENT AHEAD AND, WE WENT AHEAD AND MADE THAT AVAILABLE.

>> TALK ABOUT IF, IF SOMEBODY HAS A LIFE ENDING DISEASE.

>> YEP.

>> YOU CAN ALSO TRANSFER THAT.

AND, AND, I KNOW MY SON HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN SEVERAL OF THOSE, SEVERAL OF THOSE THINGS, TOO.

AND THROUGH LAST WISH TYPE OF THING.

MAKE A WISH DOESN'T DO THIS ANY MORE.

SO PATH FOUNDATION IS REALLY TAKING THAT OVER.

UM, HOW ABOUT THIS HOW ABOUT THIS.

YOU GIVE US, THERE IS SOMEBODY FROM McBAIN THAT WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE UPDATE ON THE MOUSE.

THE MOUSE PROGRAM THAT YOU REPORTED ON LAST BRING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

IT WAS JUST IN A MEETING YESTERDAY GETTING SOME MOUSE UPDATES FROM THE RESEARCHES UP THERE.

>> INTERESTING NEW.

>> INTERESTING NEWS.

I THINK THERE IS STILL 50 ANIMALS I BELIEVE.

COLLARED RUNNING AROUND OVERALL SURVIVAL HAS BEEN 86% I WANT TO SAY.

DON'T QUOTE ME ON THE NUMBERS EXACTLY.

MEMORY IS FUZZ ZY.

>> YOU COULD GUESS.

IT WAS JUST YESTERDAY.

I SHOULD BE REASONABLY CLOSE HERE RIGHT.

YEAH.

>> SO YEAH.

REALLY HIGH SURVIVAL.

WE JUST DID HAVE A COW MOUSE STRUCK AND KILLED ON THE ROAD, SO THAT IS NOW, I BELIEVE, OVER THE TWO YEARS FOUR MOUSE STRUCK AND KILLED BY VEHICLES, UM, SO THAT IS ABOUT HALF OF OUR COL COLLARED MOUSE THAT HAVE DIED HAVE DIED FROM VEHICLES.

WHAT COMPOUNDS THAT IS THAT SEVERAL OF THESE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW COW MOUSE THAT HAVE HAD CALFS WITH THE, THAT ARE PROBABLY TOO YOUNG TO SURVIVE ON THEIR OWN.

SOL YOU KNOW, STRIKING ONE MOUSE IN THE SUMMER, IS PROBABLY GOING TO LEAD TO MAYBE TWO OR THREE MOUSE ULTIMATELY CECUMMING, UM, BUT OVERALL, GENERALLY HIGH SURVIVAL WITH OUR COLDERRED MOUSE.

EVEN THE CALF AS THAT WE ARE TRACKING, I THINK THE SURVIVAL RATE IS IN THE 63, 64% RANGE, SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, FAIRLY HIGH SURVIVAL, AS FAR AS MOUSE GOES.

THAT IS REALLY ENCOURAGING.

THE MORE YOU KNOW, THE MORE YOU ARE ABLE TO MANAGE IT.

WE ARE LEARNING A TON OF INFORMATION.

WE ARE STARTING TO SEE HOW THEY ARE MOVING AND OCCUPYING DIFFERENT TIMES OF THE YEAR.

ALL OF THESE ARE GPS COLLARS SO WE ARE ABLE TO TRACK, YOU KNOW, EVERY MOMENT WITH ALL OF THESE MOUSE, SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE JUSTS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DATA AND INFORMATION THAT OUR RESEARCH IS GOING TO HELP US INFORM YOU KNOW WHAT FUTURE MANAGEMENT DECISION LOOK LIKE.

>> WELL, THAT IS COOL STUFF.

I KNEW YOU WERE REALLY, REALLY REALLY GUNG HO ON THIS NEW INTRUSION INTO THE LIFE OF A MOUSE.

HOW COULD YOU NOT BE EXCITED ABOUT MOUSE, RIGHTING IN THE FACT YOU CAN SIT DOWN AND WATCH THE BREAD TRAIL CRUMBS AND WHERE THEY HAVE MOVED OVER THE PAST MONTH IS FASCINATING?

VERY COOL.

MESEIK, MESEIK, MICHIGAN.

CAN I SHOOT COYOTES ANY TIME OF THE YEAR ON MY OWN PROPERTY?

DO I NEED A LICENSE?

SO WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FORTH OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AS FAR AS THE SUMMERTIME SHOOTING OF COYOTES, SO THE NRC HAS PUT IN WHAT WE ARE CALLING A MANAGEMENT SEASON SO WE HAVE TRADITIONAL HUNTING SEASONS NOW WE HAVE A MANAGEMENT SEASON, THAT STARTS THE DAY AFTER THE CLOSE OF THE SEASON, AND THEN ENDS THE DAY BEFORE THE START OF THE TRADITIONAL SEASON.

SOL IF THEY ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, DOING DAMAGE, OR THEN, IMMINENT THREAT TO ANYTHING.

THE CAN SHOT, PRIVATE PROPERTY.

YOU DON'T NEED A LICENSE ON YOUR OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY.

NOW WE DID CREATE THE MANAGEMENT SINCE ALSO FOR SQUIRREL.

THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO HARVEST WITHOUT SOME KIND OF A SPECIAL PERMIT SUCH AS RABBITS AND SQUIRRELS NOW THEY GOT TO DO DAMAGE TO THE ARGUE GRY CULTURAL.

AGAIN, THIS IS OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS IF YOU HAVE GOT A GARDEN, AND THOSE PESKY RABBITS ARE GOING IN AND EATING YOUR GARDEN.

ARE ABLE TO HARVEST THAT ANIMAL ON THE OWN PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AGAIN, THIS IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND GO BACK TO THE BACK 40 AND HAVE A SQUIRREL HUNT IN JULY.

AGAIN, THIS IS DESIGNED FOR ANIMALS THAT ARE DOING DAMAGE.

THE ONE TO THIS, AGAIN, THIS IS ANY LEGAL METHOD OF HARVEST FOR THAT ANIMAL BUT THE ONE TO THAT IS IS YOU CANNOT USE HOUNDS TO CHASE THESE ANIMALS DURING THE CLOSURE FOR OUTSIDE OF TRAINING SEASON, SO APRIL 14th THROUGH JULY, JULY 7th.

>> 16th OR SOMETHING.

>> YEAH.

>> OK.

WHAT ARE MY LEGAL OPTIONS IF A BOBCAT IS KILLING MY CHICKENS?

I TELL YOU WHAT MY OPTION WOULD BE.

SOL, SO, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS ANIMAL, WILDLIFE CONSERVATION, THAT IS WHAT THE NATURAL RESOURCE COMMISSION DRE IT AS OR FISHERY SIDE, THERE IS A WILDLIFE CONSERVATION, BE THAT IF PIT IS DOING DAMAGE TO LIVESTOCK, THEY CAN BE HARVESTED, OR SHOT, THEY CAN BE TAKEN.

BUT THE CAVEAT TO THAT, YOU HAVE TO CONTACT THE DEPARTMENT.

SO IF YOU GOT A BOBCAT KILLING THE CHICKENS.

DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY.

AGAIN, BACK ALSO, THIS MANAGEMENT SEASON, IT IS STILL HUNTING WITH A FIREARM, SO THERE ARE SAFETY ZONES THAT DO APPLY IN THESE SITUATIONS, IF YOU SHOOT IT WRENCH CONTACT YOUR LOCAL CONSERVATION OFFICER.

CONTACT THE LOCAL DNR OFFICE OR UTILIZE THE POACHING POT HOTLINE.

HEY, I HAD THIS BOBCAT.

I WAS KILLING MY CHICKENS SO I SHOT IT.

THEY DO HAVE TO BE TURNED IN SURRENDERED TO THE DEPARTMENT, FOX ARE THE SAME WAY.

SO AGAIN, YOU CAN SHOOT IT.

BUT DO YOU NEED TO CONTACT THE DEPARTMENT.

>> OK.

HEADQUARTERS LAKE.

GRAND TRAVERSE.

YOU KNOW WHERE HEADQUARTERS LAKE IS?

>> I DO.

>> DO YOU?

MARK, DO YOU KNOW EVERYTHING?

>> IT IS BY FIVE LAKE.

OH, YEAH.

YEAH.

I KNOW WHERE IT IS.

MYSELF NOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

GRAND TRAVERSE COUNTY, ARE THEY REMOVING THE DAM?

>> AH, SO THAT DAM IS OWNED BY WILDLIFE DIVISION, NOT FINISH RACE DIVISION, SO, UM, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SAY IN THAT, THAT WILL, IT WILL COME DOWN TO DECISION MADE BY WILDLIFE AND IT IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO FINANCIAL.

YOU KNOW?

WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE THEM FINANCIALLY TO KEEP THAT DAM UP?

I DON'T THINK ANY DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE.

I FLOW HAVE BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT.

BIZ DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TIME OUTCOME OF THAT DAM OR OF THAT DAM WOULD BE.

>> RIGHT DOWN THE ROADED FROM THAT IN MAN TON, A QUESTION.

ORGANIZATIONS THAT TAKE KIDS HUNTING LIKE CHASM A DREAM WILL THEY TAKE KIDS WITH A DISEASE HUNTING OR FISHING?

THE ANSWER IS LOOK UP THE PATH FOUNDATION.

AND THE PATH FOUNDATION DOES A LOT OF THAT.

IN MICHIGAN.

IT IS NONPROFIT.

>> THERE IS A LOT OF GREAT NONPROFITS OUT THERE, THAT DO TAKE PEOPLE HUNTING TAKE THEM FISHING SO AGAIN PATH IS A GREAT ORGANIZATION BUT THERE ARE MANY MANY OTHERS OUT THERE.

SO THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE THEIR DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS OR STIPULATIONS ON WHAT THEY DO.

SO IT MAY BE WORTH IT.

US THERE SUCH A THING?

>> YES.

YES.

IT IS SCHEDULED TO START NEXT YEAR.

SO THE COMMISSION PASSED THE REGULATION SOMETIME THIS SUMMER BUT IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT FOR NEXT YEAR.

WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS WHAT WE ARE CALLING A SECOND SNUCK OK.

SO MOST PEOPLE WILL KNOW OR SOON KNOW, FOR NEXT YEAR, FOR THE LOWER PENINSULA INSTEAD OF SHOOTING TWO ANTLER COMBINATION LICENSE, IT IS GOOD.

THEN ONE ANTLERLESS DEER.

OUR COMMISSION PASSED A REGULATION AFTER THAT ONE BUCK RULE WAS PASSED THAT WILL NOW ALSO ALLOW EARN A SECOND BUCK OPTION FOR FIVE DIFFERENT COUNTIES IN SOUTHERN MICHIGAN.

HAVE NOT MEMORIZED THEM YET.

I KNOW INGHAM IS ONE AND LAPEER IS MORE ONE.

THERE IS A COUPLE OF THEM DOWN THERE WHERE YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TOLL SHOOT SA SECOND BUCK PROVIDED YOU HARVEST AND REPORT ANTLERLESS DEER FROM THAT COUNTY SO A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN A CLASSIC EARN A BUCK.

>> SHOOT THE DOE FIRST.

YOU HAVE TO SHOOT A DOE BEFORE YOU SHOOT THE BUCK.

IF YOU GO OUT ON OPENING DAY, SAY A ARCHERY SEASON, YOU GOT THE BIG BULLWINKLE COMING THROUGH.

YOU CAN SHOOT IT.

NO PROBLEM DOING THAT.

THEN BEFORE YOU GET THE SECOND BUCK YOU HAVE TO SHOOT ANTLERLESS DEER AND THAT WILL ALLOW YOU TO SORT OF GAIN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE SECOND TAG.

NONE AS THIS APPLIES THIS YEAR.

DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE PEOPLE THAT THAT IS A REGULATION FOR THIS YEAR.

THAT IS SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD AND CERTAINLY WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> INCIDENTALLY, BRANDT RUDOLPH, DR.

BRANDT RUDOLPH DID A LO WITH JUMP MIZ BACK IN EARLY SEPTEMBER.

JIMMY WHERE THEY WENT THROUGH THE REGULATION CHANGES I DON'T THINK I HAVE EVER SEEN A BETTER STEP-BY-STEP PROCESS FOR UNDERSTANDING IT, IF YOU GO ON TO MICHIGAN OUT OF DOORS TV WEBSITE, I BET YOU, I BET YOU THAT IS STILL AIRING, YOU CAN FIND IT.

IF YOU HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, DO YOUR BEST BY GETTING DIGESTED BY LOOKING THROUGH THE REGULATIONS, BUT GO BACK AND SEE THAT FIRST.

THAT REALLY WILL EXPLAIN A LOT.

BRENT RUDOLPH DID A GREAT JOB WITH JIMMY.

HE IS THE BEST AND EXTREMELY TALENTED AT COMMUNICATING COMPLICATED ISSUES AND DISTILLING IT DOWN.

EVEN I UNDERSTOOD AFTER THAT.

HE HAS GOT TO BE GREAT.

RAMSEY ROAD IN GRAND TRAVERSE KALKASKA WAS WASHED OUT.

IT IS ANYONE GOING TO FIX IT?

>> RAMSEY ROAD.

>> YEAH.

I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT SPOT.

>> IF IT IS A COUNTY ROAD THAT GOT WASHED OUT, THEN WE ARE ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE DEALING WITH YOU SHOULD BE CONTACT THE COUNTY ROAD COMMISSION IF, YOU KNOW, A STATE FOREST TWO TRACK OR TRAIL THAT GOT WASHED OUT.

GET A HOLD OF, YOU KNOW, THE LOCAL DNR FIS, IN THIS INSTANCE, COUNTY ROAD IS GOING TO BE THE ONE TO DO THAT.

A WE ARE GETTING PRETTY WELL CLOSE TO THE ENZ OF THINGS SO LET'S BUZZ THROUGH A FEW OF THESE.

GRAYLING, GRAYLING PRODUCKS, THINGS GOING OK?

>> UM, I MEAN, THE PROJECT HAS GONE OK IN TERMS OF RAISING THE HATCHERIES, WE -- WORKING WITH THE PARTNERS THE NATIVE AMERICAN TRIBES THEY HAVE THEN STOPPED INTO THREE DIFFERENT STREAMS NOW.

TWO YEARS IN A ROW.

THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR.

TA TUNED.

WE'LL KEEP TRYING.

WE'LL KEEP LEARNING.

SO FAR, NO SURVIVAL YET.

BUT STAY TUNED.

>> BUT MAYBE, MAYBE YOU WILL FIND SOME.

>> DOES SURPLUS PROGRAM STILL EXIST.

I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK WHAT THEY ARE REFERRING TO PROBLEM IS CAN YOU GO PURCHASE SALMON FROM FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION AND YES, YOU CAN.

THERE ARE HALF A DOZEN PLACES, MOSTLY IN THE WELLSTON BROTHERN AREA, THAT, THAT WE'LL SELL.

I THINK USUALLY PROBABLY FROM THE PLATTE THEY SELL FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION.

Y, THAT DOES STILL EXIST.

YEAH.

LET'S BE CLEAR ON THAT.

THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A COMPANY THAT HAS A CONTRACT WITH THE DEPARTMENT, THEY ARE HELPING US DEAL WITH THE FISH AT THE WEIR, YOU CAN NOT GO TO A RANDOM PERSON YOU MEET IN A BAR OR WHAT HAVE YOU AND BUY FISH FROM THEM.

NO, YOU CAN DO IT.

YOU CAN DO IT.

YOU CAN DO IT.

YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF IN TROUBLE AS THEY WOULD.

YEAH.

SO GO TO SOMEBODY THAT IS LICENSED.

THAT IS EASY.

OSCEOLA WILDLIFE PRESERVE.

THIS COMES FROM MY SAUK CAN I COUNTY AND SUPPOSED TO STOP PEOPLE FROM DRIVE ON THE MAIN TRAIL.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA?

>> NO.

FROM THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THE OSCEOLA GRASSLANDS?

AM OH, YEAH.

THE OLD PRAIRIE CHICKEN.

YEAH.

SO I MEAN, MANY OF THOSE AREAS ARE NOT OPENED UP TO ORV OR WHEELED MOTOR VEHICLES SO IT WOULD BE UNLIKELY FOR USES TO HAVE BLOCKED IT OFF OR PUT SOME KIND OF BARRIER IN.

SOL WHERE ARE YOU GOING THIS YEAR?

>> MY BACKYARD.

>> MY BACK 40.

YOUR BACK 40.

YEAH.

CHAD YOU GOT A SPECIAL PLACE YOU ARE GOING TO BE?

>> BOW HUNTING IN INGHAM COUNTY AND THIS YEAR, I GOT ACCESS IN EATON COUNTY WHERE MY DAUGHTER SHOT THE FIRST DEER, A DOE IN YOUTH HUNT.

BEST EX SHEERNESS.

UK SESFUL YEAR ALREADY.

>> YEAH.

YEAH.

IT HAS BEEN A GREAT YEAR.

YEAH.

I WILL BE OVER IN WESTERN ISABELLA COUNTY WITH OVER WITH THE GANG.

I USUALLY HUNT WITH OVER THERE.

AND GOOD THINGS HAPPEN THERE.

>> MARK WILL BE STEELHEAD FISHING.

>> YEAH.

>> THAT IS RIGHT.

YOU ALWAYS USE THIS TIME TO STEALHEAD FISH.

YOU KNOW, IT HAS BEEN SO GREAT TO BE HERE WITH ALL OF YOU.

I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW MUCH I APRERN ATE YOU GUYS ANSWERING THIS HE QUESTIONS WHILE YOU DO IT YOU DO A GREAT JOB.

YOU CAN SEE IT RIGHT HERE AGAIN NEXT APRIL.

ON PUBLIC TELEVISION WHEN WE WILL BE BACK WITH MORE ASK THE DNR.

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