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>> IT IS BACK-TO-SCHOOL TIME WITH IT IS ALSO HURRICANE SEASO AND SURPRISING TRAGEDY IN WESTERN NORTH CAROLINA MOUNTAINS .

AS WE UNFOLD TOWARDS THE FALL, WHAT ABOUT BUSINESSES.

WHAT ABOUT THE INCREASING POLITICAL DEBATE THAT HAPPENS AND WHAT ABOUT HOW CHAMBERS OF, SO FACTOR INTO THAT AND WHAT ABOUT BUSINESS IN GENERAL.7?ñ?&C WE w% OF ALL BEGINNING NOW.

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>> GREAT GRATEFULLY BELCHING SUPPORT BY: >> ON THIS EDITION OF "CAROLINA BUSINESS REVIEW", AARON NELSON FROM THE CHAMBER FOR A GREATER CHAPEL HILL CARGO, PAT KILL FRO THE UNION COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, BOB MORGAN FROM THE SOUTH CAROLINA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND JAMES FROM THE ORANGEBURG COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

>> HERE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF BACK-TO-SCHOOL SEASON, THE END OF THE SUMMER, AND A THOUSAND OTHER REASONS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WELCOME BACK TO THE DIALOGUE.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU FOR THE FIRST TIME.

PAT, I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU .

NOT MUCH OF A BUSINESS QUESTION BUT THE TRAGEDY UNFOLDING AND HEYWARD COUNTY THIS PAST WEEKEND , WHAT WAS GOING TO BE HURRICANE ENDED UP BEING A DEADLY TROPICAL DEPRESSION.

YOU KNOW COME IN THE CAROLINAS WE ARE READY FOR HURRICANE SEASON NO DOUBT, BUT IS USUALLY ABLE FUNNEL US OUT -- A SALT THAT COMES IN.

AND IT CAME AROUND AND DEVASTATED OTHER POUNDS IN NORTHWESTERN NORTH WESTERN NORT CAROLINA.

AT THIS POINT MORE THAN 30 DEAD.

I'M NOT TRYING TO BE MORBID.

PAT, IS THE SMALL RURAL WILL COME TO THAT MAY BE NOT AT THE TOP UP EVERYONE PRESS TO ECONOMIC LAST GETS DEVASTATED LIKE THIS, DOES IT NEED TO BE ANOTHER TYPE OF PLAN AND RESPONSE FOR LAWMAKERS IN LEADERSHIP IN GENERAL?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

FIRST OF ALL, OUR CONDOLENCES T MANY WHO ARE SUFFERING A LOSS O FAMILY, LOSS OF LOVED ONES, JUS A TERRIBLE TRAGEDY.

ABSOLUTELY.

SHORT AND SWEET, YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF COMMUNITY LIKE THA WHEN SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS .

WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AND THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT WE NEED TO STEP UP.

WE JUST HAVE TO PULL TOGETHER.

>> JAMES, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> AGAIN, I THINK THAT LEADERSHIP MATTERS.

SO THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE IN YOUR COMMUNITY, THEY ARE LOOKIN FOR LEADERS AND THEY ARE EXPECTING, GIVEN THE TITLE, COMING UP WITH SOME TYPE OF SOLUTION AND TO ACTUALLY MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE TRAGEDY IS, YOU'VE ACCEPTED THE ROLE OF LEADER IN YOUR COMMUNITY, THAT YOU HAVE T BE PREPARED FOR THESE SPECIFIC TIMES TO BE ACTIVE.

SO, YES, WHETHER YOU'RE IN PUBLIC SAFETY OR WITH THE SCHOO DISTRICT OR WITH THE FAITH COMMUNITY OR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE WILL FEEL BETTER WHEN THE LEADERS WORK TOGETHER AND INDEE SHOW THE LEADERSHIP THAT THEY EXPECT.

>> LET'S TAKE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT TACT.

BACK-TO-SCHOOL SEASON.

NOT SURPRISING THERE ARE HUGE DEBATES AROUND WEARING MASKS, ALL-AROUND MANDATES ABOUT WEARING MASKS, ABOUT SUPERINTENDENCE VERSUS PRINCIPLES VERSUS GOVERNMENTS VERSUS MUNICIPALITIES.

AND SHE -- AT THIS POINT ARE BROWNED THE MASK TODAY, THE HARM TO SOCIAL FABRIC OF SOCIETY DOES MORE DAMAGE THAN THE HEALTH RISK.

WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

AND IS THERE AN APPROPRIATE THEIR POLICY THAT WE NEED TO BE UNFOLDING HERE?

>> IT IS THE DIVISIVENESS AROUN THE SUBJECT THAT IS PUZZLING.

WHAT SHOULD BE A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE HAS TURNED INTO A POLITICAL DEBATE AND ISSUE.

I THINK THAT IT IS REAL SIMPLE.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT MASKS, I IS ABOUT VACCINES.

WE DID NOT HAVE VACCINES AND WE SAW THE DAMAGE THAT BY RESPECTE TO OUR ECONOMY AND BUSINESSES.

WE ARE NOW FACING A SPIKE IN THAT.

WE KNOW THIS PLAY WITH THEN WE HAVE ADDITIONAL WEAPON.

BUT WE ARE SEEING NATIONALLY WE ARE STARTING TO SEE IT HERE, NO JUST THE MILITARY, BUT A PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY MANDATIN VACCINES AMONG THEIR WORKFORCE.

WE KNOW WE CAN GIVE VACCINES IT WE KNOW WHEN WE REACH HERD MENTALITY, HE HERD IMMUNITY, THAT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE HOW WE WIN THIS BATTLE.

I THINK THE QUESTION HAS COME DOWN TO EMPLOYERS.

WE ARE GOING TO SEE A VACCINE MANDATE, PARTICULARLY ONCE THE FDA GIVES ITS FINAL APPROVAL.

THAT IS JUST GOING TO BECOME A REALITY.

[INDISCERNIBLE]Hrím BEING COMPELLED TO WEAR A MASK, WHAT IS THEIR POLICY, AS BOB TALKED ABOUT.

>> I'M CONFUSED BY THIS IT IS S COMPLICATED AND CONTROVERSIAL.

I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD PUT TH MASK ON AND EVERYBODY SHOULD GE VACCINATED.

WE ARE GOING TO SHOW BY EXAMPLE.

THE WHAT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES T VACCINATE.

WE ARE GOING TO REQUIRE ALL PEOPLE BE VACCINATED AS A CONDITION OF PARTICIPATING IN CHAMBER PROGRAMMING.

FOR ENCOURAGING ANYBODY TO FOLLOW THE RULES IN ORANGE COUNTY AND WAKE COUNTY AROUND U AND BE REQUIRED TO WEAR A MASK AND DOORS.

PUT A CLOTH OVER YOUR FACE IN ORDER TO KEEP PASSING A DISEASE THAT COULD KILL SOMEBODY IS I THINK A REASONABLE REQUESTS.

SOME FOLKS SAY THIS IS POLITICAL .

SO ARE LOTS OF THINGS.

SO AS THE BILL OF RIGHTS MOVEMENT AND SO WAS EFFORTS TO MAKE BIG CHANGE AND THE BUSINES COMMUNITY SHOULD PLAY A LEAD ROLE IN HELPING US GET THROUGH COMPLICATED THINGS.

ON THISCGp"áUáTáá @&C @&UV ON THOULD BE CLEAR.

&C @&UV MASK UP, VACCINATE, AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT THROUGH.

>> I KNOW YOU ALREADY WAITED ON THIS BUT HOW ARE BUSINESSES FOR SPOTTING.

ARE THE DIFFERENT WAYS OF BUSINESSES ARE RESPONDING.

NEPHRON IS A GREAT EXAMPLE WITH WHAT ABOUT ORANGEBURG, UNION COUNTY?

A LOT OF THE SMALL BUSINESSES.

75% HAVE STARTED AGAIN TO ACT -- TO ASK THAT YOU ARE MASK WHEN YOU COMMENCE A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE, BUT 25%, IT'S A VER SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT DON'T HAV A SIGN ON THEIR DOOR THAT SAYS PLEASE ARE MASK ON.

THEY ARE NOT THE MASK POLICE WITH THE TWO REMIND PEOPLE TO D THAT.

I THINKz uJj%J THING TO DO.

I THINK THE5 MESSAGING THE GROUND WHY WE SHOULD WEAR MASKS HAS BEEN LONG.

AND WHEN THE MESSAGING IS WRONG IF YOU DO GET A DEBATE THAT SPILLED INTO AN AREA -- THAT IS IN THE POLITICAL ARENA.

WEARING MASKS IS NOT POLITICAL.

IT IS A DEBATE REGARDING HEALTH AND IT IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY, IF THAT THE BEST WAY, BUT AN IN EFFECT FOR YOU TO HELP CONTROL THE SPREAD UP COVID-19 AND WE STICK TO THE BRIGHT MESSAGING, THINK PEOPLE WILL BE MORE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THIS IS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO STAY HEALTHY.

>> GOOD POINT.

WITH TWO THINGS, IT IS NOT POLITICAL.

IT IS ALL ABOUT THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I CAN SAY TO THOSE WHO ARE BOGGED DOWN IN THIS POLITICAL MIRE THA WE ARE IN IS THE LAST THING THA ANY BUSINESS WANTS IS WHERE WE WERE IN MARCH IT 2020 FOR WE WERE SHUT DOWN AND FROM A HEALT PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE.

WE CANNOT GO THERE AGAIN.

WE HAD TOOLS.

>> THIS IS AN AWESOME QUESTION TO ANYONE.

HOW MUCH IS THIS COVID FATIGUE, NOW THAT WE HAVE THE DELTA.

AND THERE'S THIS IDEA THAT THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO DO IT ANYMORE .

>> OUR JOB IS TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SOLDIER THROUGH.

I'M SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE TIRED OF LOTS OF THINGS.

WORLD WAR II WAS REALLY ON AND SO WAS THE BIG DEPRESSION.

YOU'VE JUST GOT TO YOU'VE Jñ?

GET THE GUMPTION TO GET BACK AT IT AND THINK OUR JOB IS TO ENCOURAGE THAT.

SOME PEOPLE SAY I DON'T WANT TO BE REQUIRED TO WEAR A MASK -- ARE NOT REQUIRED, YOU'RE JUST REQUIRED TOO WEAR A U)ANT.MASK WHEN YOU YOU JUST REQUIRED TO WEAR WITH IF YOU GO TO SCHOOL.

TO HAVE TO VACCINATE YOUR KIDS,H MQh÷ AVE TO VACCINATE YOUOz KIDS,H THAT FOLKS CAN SOMEHOW DECIDE T MAKE THIS PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE ANOTHER WAY FOR US TO BE DIVIDED .

>> THANK YOU, JIM.

I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.

ONE OF THE FIRST GOVERNORS IN THE COUNTRY EARLIER THIS SUMMER TO SUNSET FEDERAL EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.

AND IT WAS MET WITH SOME PRAISE WITH ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF HEADWIND.

HOW HAS THAT WORKED OUT SO FAR AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT BENEFITS ARE EXTENDED OR HAVE BEEN EXTENDED TO MID-OCTOBER ANYWAY.

'S SOUTH CAROLINA STARTING TO SEE THE BENEFITS OR THE DOWNSID OF THAT?

>> WELL, WE ARE SEEING THE BENEFIT.

OUR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IN THE NEXT SE OF NUMBERS THAT COME OUT ARE GOING TO BE EVEN MORE SO.

I CAN PAY IT'S BEEN UNIVERSALLY PRAISED AMONG THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

THEY SOUTH CAROLINA HAS CONSISTENTLY LOW PARTICIPATION RATE AND IT IS A RATIONAL CHOIC THAT OF THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO PAY ME MORE MONEY TO NETWORK AND WORK, THAT IS A RATIONAL CHOICE.

AND MANY HAVE TAKEN THAT.

I'VE BEEN ASKED A QUESTION BECAUSE I SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE ARE LAZY.

I DON'T THINK THAT THEY ARE.

I THINK THAT OUR WORKFORCE IS PROTECTIVE BUT IT IS UP RATIONA CHOICE I THINK A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN THE BENEFITS AND ARE STILL DOING OTHER WORK.

THEY'RE PROBABLY DOING IT OFF LINE, SO WE ARE SEEING THE BENEFITS LONG-TERM.

WE NEEDED THOSE BENEFITS WHEN THE JOBS WENT AWAY WITH THE FAC IS WE HAVE OVER 100,000 JOBS THAT ARE NOT FILLED.

WE HAVE 107,000 PEOPLE BETTER O UNEMPLOYMENT.

THERE ARE JOBS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

SO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DETEC AND COURAGE PEOPLE TO GET BACK IN THE WORKFORCE.

>> I'M SORRY.

>> TALK ABOUT JUST CUTTING OFF THE BENEFITS.

THE DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT TH WORKFORCE, THEY ARE VERY PROACTIVELY TRYING TO MATCH PEOPLE WITH THAT JOBS THAT ARE OUT THERE, PRACTICALLY PAYING PEOPLE FOR HIS SIX WEEKS OF CERTIFICATION TO THEIR TECHNICA COLLEGES TO MATCH WITH THE JOBS THAT ARE THERE.

>> WHEN YOU HEAR BOB TALKING ABOUT THAT IN NORTH CAROLINA, THEY DID NOT HAVE THE POLICY SE UP.

HOW DOES THAT WASH OVER YOU?

>> I WILL TELL YOU IN UNION COUNTY, AS ALL OF OUR BROTHERS THROUGHOUT NORTH CAROLINA AND THE COUNTRY, WE HAVE SO MANY JOBS TO FILL AND WHEN I HEAR THIS, THEIR BUSINESSES TO STAY -- WHO SAID LET'S GET BUSY.

IS A TOTALLY DIFFERENT SITUATIO WHEN THIS STARTED.

THAT DIDN'T HAVE JOBS AVAILABLE.

WE NEEDED THAT HELP.

AT THAT TIME HAS PASSED.

THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES REGARDING TECHNICAL SKILLS, REGARDING UPSCALING.

WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR POPULATION TO GO BACK TO WORK AND BETTER JOBS.

THIS NOT AN INDUSTRY, WE HAVE A STRONG MANUFACTURING BASE.

WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING TO A LARGE MANUFACTURER OR SMALL WHA WE ARE TALKING TO SOMEONE ON MAIN STREET, THE FACT IS THAT THEY CANNOT FIND WORKERS AND IT IS A HUGE ECONOMIC IMPACT.

SET TO HEAR THAT WE ARE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE, PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP STILL NEED HELP, BUT WE ARE ENCOURAGING THOSE WHO CAN'T, LET'S GO BACK TO WORK AN GET THIS ECONOMY GOING AGAIN.

>> I AGREE WITH PAT AND THE POINT THAT FOLKS ARE MAKING A DECISION EARLY ON.

WE DO THE MASK RIGHT NOW, IF EVERY UNEMPLOYED FOR SO SOMEONE TO WORK, WE WOULD STILL HAVE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND BROKEN JOBS.

SO FOLKS ARE SITTING RUN WHICH IF WE WOULD ONLY AND THESE BENEFITS, WE WOULD JUST HAVE SMOOTH SAILING AGAIN, THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

THERE TAKING CARE OF GRANDMA WHO'S NO LONGER IN THE ELDERCAR FACILITY BECAUSE OF COVID AND OTHER CHALLENGES NATIONAL PUBLI RADIO.

CHILDCARE IS THE STRATEGY THAT THERE WORKING ON.

THE GOT A 24 HOUR CHILDCARE FACILITY TAKING CARE OF WORKERS SO THAT THOSE FOLKS CAN GO TO WORK.

SCHOOL IS STARTING AGAIN.

PROBABLY HAVE TO KEEP PEOPLE IN SCHOOL, WHICH IS WHY WE NEED TO MISS, SCHOOL IS STARTING AGAIN, WITH THE BEST THINGS TO HAPPEN HELPING WORKERS, PARTICULARLY WOMEN WHO LEFT THE WORKPLACE.

>> WE THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS LIKE CHILDCARE CAN BE CAN'T HEL WITH THINK ABOUT HOUSING AND ESPECIALLY IN MARKETS LIKE CHARLESTON AND CHARLOTTE AND RALEIGH AND GREENVILLE WHERE TH MARKETS ARE SO HOT.

BEST OF TIMES AND WORST OF TIMES .

BUT IT ALSO BRINGS UP THIS IDEA WITH EVICTIONS AND ABOUT KEEPIN UP WITH THE NEW HOUSING.

WHAT ARE THE CHAMBER'S ROLES.

WHAT IS YOUR ROLE TO HELP ALLEVIATE OR LEAD OR MAYBE FASHION POLICY ARE BROWNED HOW HOUSING SHOULD BE OUR HOW IT IS GOING FORWARD.

>> IN OUR ORGANIZATION, IT'S LONG BEEN A PRIORITY.

WE ARE STARTING TO SEE THAT COMING UP IN CHAMBER AND OTHERS AND YOU CANNOT ATTRACT THE WORKFORCE.

MOST FORKS CANNOT AFFORD TO -- WORKING WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND EMPLOYER-SPONSORED HOUSING ARE CREATIVE AND PUBLICLY OWNED LAND.

BUT HOUSING IS A REQUIREMENT FO FOLKS TO LOOK IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE FACED THE LONG COMMUTES BUT EVEN, I THINK THAT HOUSING WOULD BE A PRIORITY.

CHAMBERS STEPPING UP AT THE TABLE.

>> BOB, CHARLESTON IS THE HOTTEST HOUSING MARKET.

HOW DO YOU BELIEVE LEAVE THEIR EXPECT IS NOT JUST CHARLESTON, IT'S MYRTLE BEACH AND GREENVILL AS WELL.

ARID IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

IT HER READY -- WE WOULD STILL HAVE JOBS BEING UNVEILED WHICH LEADS INTO THE CONVERSATION AROUND IMMIGRATION IN THE COUNTRY.

WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE IN THE SU BELT THAT WE ARE ATTRACTING POPULATION WITH AS A COUNTRY WE ARE NOT HAVING ENOUGH CHILDREN.

WE HAVE SLOWED IMMIGRATION AND TALKED TO MAJOR MANUFACTURERS ACROSS THE BOARD.

THEY SAY THAT E-VERIFY GAVE AWA SOME OF THEIR BEST WORKFORCE.

SO FINDING SOME KIND OF COHERENT , NATIONAL IMMIGRATION POLICY THAT ALLOWS OUR POPULATION TO CONTINUE TO GROW AND BRINGS IN PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO DO THE JOBS THAT MAN OF US WHO ARE HERE THAT ARE NOT WILLING TO DO HAVE TO BE PART O THE NATIONAL DIALOGUE.

>> THERE ARE NOT.

IN ORANGEBURG COUNTY, HOUSING MAY NOT BE HOT LIKE IT IS IN TH UPSTATE BUT IT STILL HAS TO BE EVEN MORE CRITICAL.

WHAT IS YOUR ROLE.

WHAT IS THE LEADERSHIP ROLE IN ORANGEBURG?

>> YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT.

WE HAVE A HUGE HOUSING SHORTAGE FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS.

A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH UTILITIES AND WATER, INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT IS SOMEWHAT BEEN NEGLECTED FOR A WHILE.

WE ARE STARTING TO PUT ADDITIONAL MONEY FAIR.

SO WE HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN AN LOS IN OUR POPULATION OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS, BUT THERE SEEMS TO BE AN EXPANSION BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE ARE IN THE CENTER OF A LOT OF GROWTH.

CHARLESTON AND SOMERVILLE GO TOWARD ORANGEBURG.

AND IN ORDER TO MEET THAT GROWTH , WE HAVE THE MONEY AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOR HOMES TO BE BUILT AND WE ARE LOOKING TO DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

HOWEVER, GOING BACK TO POLICY, WE HAVE WAYS FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO PAY THEIR RENT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, BUT I THINK THAT'S SETTING THAT UP WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT FOR EVERY ACTION, THAT IS OVERREACTION.

THE PROBLEM IS SOMETIMES THAT OPPOSITE REACTION IS ANOTHER PROBLEM SITE YOU CREATE A TRYIN TO FIX THE PROBLEM.

SO THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE THERE THERE'S MONEY AVAILABLE TO PAY RENT FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT ABL TO PAY IT BECAUSE OF COVID BUT THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE GETTING TO THOSE WHO ARE -- SO WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH BUSINESS OWNERS AND I'VE HEARD THAT FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE MULTIPLE HOMES IN ORANGEBURG AN THINGS LIKE THAT.

BECAUSE THEY ARE SHOULDERING TH BRUNT OF THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO MEET THEIR FINANCIA NEEDS WHEN THE MONEY IS THAT COMING IN.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SO IMPORTANT.

AND HERE IN UNION COUNTY, WE AR AT THE TALE OF TWO, COUNTIES, THE WESTERN PART AND THE AVERAG HOUSING PRICES SKYROCKETING IN THAT AREA.

THE EASTERN PART IS MUCH MORE ALL AND MORE CHALLENGING ECONOMICALLY, SO IT IS A KEY ROLE FOR US AT THE CHAMBER TO STEP UP AND LEAPED UP.

AND DARK IN THE TWO FEATURES THAT WE START TALKING FOR THE HOUSING AND THEY GET VERY NERVOUS AND THEY ARE VERY CONCERNED.

IF THAT IS A TERM YOU LIKE BETTER, SO BE IT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE HOUSING FOR PEOPLE THAT DO THE WORK HERE.

THOSE THAT ARE IN PUBLIC SURFAC AND THOSE FROM HEALTHCARE WERE WORKING HERE IN OUR COUNTY AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOME PLACE TO LIVE AND THAT IS IMPORTANT TO U UP FOR GOING TO CONTINUE TO MEE THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, SO IT IS A ROLE THAT THE CHAMBER HAS TO PLAY.

>> YOU ARTICULATED WELL.

WITH THE DIALOGUE IS DIFFERENT NOW.

IS THERE A GREATER SENSE OF URGENCY AROUND TACTICS TO COMMUNICATE THE PROBLEM OR ATTEMPT TO FIX THE PROBLEM?

>> I THINK THAT IT GOES BACK TO THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

THE DIVISIVENESS AMONG ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING HERE TODAY.

ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE SET ASIDE AND IT IS VERY DIFFICULT BECAUS WE ARE MORE DIVIDED THAN WE HAV EVER BEEN AS A COUNTRY AND AS A COMMUNITY.

WHATEVER LEVELS WERE TALKING ABOUT, BUT THE TRUTH OF IT IS A TO HELP WE CAN GET THAT SENSE O URGENCY TO CHILDCARE, THERE ARE ABOUT FIVE KEY ISSUES THAT UNLESS WE FIND SOME RESOLUTION AT THE LOCAL LEVEL, WE ARE GOIN TO CONTINUE TO FLOUNDER ABOUT T REALLY GET OUR UP -- GET OUR COUNTRY GOING AGAIN.

ONE OF THOSE ISSUES AS TRANSPORTATION.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING, ON OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES.

FACING AS WELL, SO WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE COMMUTING BACK BECAUSE THE TRANSPORTATION IS NOT WORKING, SO I THINK THAT THERE ABOUT 5-6 KEY ISSUES THAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT.

THAT, TOGETHER AND FIND A RESOLUTION THAT WE CAN LIVE WITH .

MAYBE IT IS THAT PERFECT.

IS THAT THE PERFECT SOLUTION FO MERE YOU PUT THE FACT IS WE HAV TO FIND SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAN LIVE WITH SO WE CAN MEET OUR COMMUNITY DURING THIS INCREDIBL CHALLENGING TIME.

>> I WISH WE HAD MORE GET -- TIME TO ATTACK THAT IDEA OF TRANSPORTATION.

IS NO PIQUANCY VINCE THAT THE DATA HAS JUST BEEN RELEASED IN THE PROCESS OF REDISTRICTING.

BUT TO COMPARE AND CONTRAST, BU IS THERE ANYTHING THAT HAS SURPRISED YOU AND THEN THE SECOND KNOCK ON WHAT BE WHERE I THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS.

>> NO REAL SURPRISES.

TO BUY THINGS ARE, AND THERE MOVING TO THE SUN BELT.

SOUTH CAROLINA DID NOT THAT WE MOST CERTAINLY WILL TEN YEARS FROM NOW.

THE SECOND THING THAT THE NUMBERS FIRM, PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING PARTS OF OUR COUNTRY T MOVE TO THESE SUBURBAN AREAS.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE SEEING HERE IN SOUTH CAROLINA.

REDISTRICTING, OUR LEGISLATURE, OUR OFFICIAL LEGISLATIVE SESSIO AND EARLIER THIS SUMMER WITH THEY'RE COMING BACK IN SEPTEMBE THREE DISTRICT.

SO WE WILL SEE THAT PROCESS PLA OUT THIS FALL.

>> I MIGHT GIVE YOU THE LAST WORD BECAUSE OF RUNNING OUT OF TIME, LESS THAN TWO MINUTES.

I KNOW YOU KEEP LOOKED AT IT TO SHOW THAT AROUND METRIC OF CHARLOTTE, WE ARE PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.

ALSO THE DEMOGRAPHICS, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, AFRICAN-AMERICANS, VACATIONS STATE FLAT AND WENT DOWN SLIGHTLY.

AT A SURPRISES?

WAS THAT A SURPRISE OR ANY OTHE SURPRISE FOR YOU?

>> FOR US IN THE TRIANGLE, IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING POPULATIONS.

CHAT HIM COUNTY HAS THE MUCH OF THAT BUT IN WAKE AND DURUM, WE HAVE BEEN IN MIGRATION FOR JOBS COMING TO US FROM ASIA AND I THINK WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE I GOING TO GET MORE AND MORE DIVERSE.

AND THEN WE HELP THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY PREPARE ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT ARE ON THE WAY.

>> THAT WILL BE THE LAST WORD.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE NEW JOB AT THE CHAMBER.

I THINK IT IS CERTAINLY WELL DESERVED AND THERE IS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT ABOUT THAT.

JIM, JAMES, NICE TO SEE YOU.

PLEASE COME BACK TO THE PROGRAM.

HOPEFULLY WE DIDN'T SCARE YOU OFF.

HAVE A NICE WEEK.

I'M CHRIS WILLIAM.

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