hi my name is Angela Williamson thank you for joining me on a special screening of Authentic Conversations Deep Talk with the Masters on Cale's yes I am here with the filmmakers Dave Judy John Wright and me and we are filming this special screening on site at our production studios in Orange in October twenty twenty one three best selling authors who are also motivational speakers gathered in Santa Barbara California to tell personal stories about pivotal moments that led to unpressed success Jack Canfield Kate Butler and Patti Aubury have dedicated their lives to serving others and many lives have changed because of it there are deep conversations walk through their personal journey of loss and triumph to the life they are living today Dave and John are here with me thanks guys for being here I appreciate it I love it tell our audience why this project well this project came about in a pretty unusual way with as you recall your phone call and a bit of a panic saying that I have these people that I have to have to shoot and I need to do it on this day and because of circumstances it isn't going to happen the way I had originally thought >> Dave can you please help me with >> the shoot and schedule worked out and I thought about it for about a half a second and said I'm going to take care of Angela and I wasn't really it was about to happen OK that's that's about what it was so then I said well I'm going to need some help so I called my buddy John right >> who is a great documentarian himself and I said John I need some help brother and he said Absolutely let's do it so we all connected and ended up in Santa Barbara and what a day or >> two we were there I think it was two days I pulled it off and twenty four hours it was crazy it was so John you already have experience doing documentaries before you had never met me before then but why did you decide all of a sudden just hop on a plane and come to Santa Barbara to shoot this documentary that's true as a flight for me that's right Dave picked me up and we went up and did it yeah well Dave I've known for a while and we always like to work together and so when you so I didn't know you but I did know Dave so that's the key part there and I think a lot of times in this industry it comes together that way right if there's a project and people know each other they'd rather work with people they know and so that's how it came together and so it was really great to meet you and Jack and Kate and Patty that day and to and to shoot this for you it was great so before we transition to this documentary I want one thought from each of you your main one thought you thought at the end of the day we shot what were you thinking after interviewing these amazing people well >> it's in our business we we meet a lot of motivational speakers across the country and and we >> hear a lot but I >> think it was it was timing it was everything coming out was pandemic and so much has gone on and and people have gone through so much that it was it was just great to hear such a positive message from those speakers you know saying hey there are other opportunities look inside your self motivate yourself I think that message is something that is always important but especially important right now that's the way I felt I felt like we >> were really doing >> something for the for the greater good yeah I think it was very impactful to be in the room when a guy like Jack Canfield who everybody knows or a lot of people know you know this is a guy who's thought a lot about how to live and how to make the most of this life and so it was kind of cool even though we were there having a job to do I felt like I was able to hear that in a fresh way even behind the camera I love that OK so now our audience has something to think about as they watch this documentary thank you stay right there we're coming back OK now let's watch authentic conversations deep talk with the Masters and come right back after this documentary as I continue my conversation with Dave >> and John you've >> got to define where it is you want to be then you have to define what are the actual steps that would get you there we talked about how to determine that by asking people studying reading whatever I recommend you create an affirmation for your goal I'm so happy and grateful I'm I'm making one hundred thousand a year I'm so happy and grateful and I got my own TV show so happy and grateful my kids all passed this great whatever it might be and then you close your eyes and visualize what you would be looking at out of your eyes if you saw that reality it was really happening there there have been a lot of very touching moments feedback that I've received from authors and you know people have sent me pictures of them holding their books next to their grandfather and you >> know they're his dream for her to share the story I've also had women come to me and you know they have had generational healing through their daughter daughter through their granddaughter through their great granddaughter because they've shared the story and healed it went ahead and healed and changed generations >> to come when I tell you that this was a point in my life that I never would have imagined that I would find myself in this wasn't necessarily alone because I knew I was doing it for the right reasons >> but it was life changing for me and because of the perspective I was given by being put in that situation I was open to receiving these two angel mentors that came my way a few months later what I was great at was cheering on Jack Canfield I was great at connecting with all the other people we have a saying he knows everything I know everyone and so I was a relationship builder so I can I see greatness in people and people are my passion and if I see it I'm sort of like a bulldog I'm not going to let you >> loose but >> one of the principles of success teachers you've got to let go of the good to embrace the great and so what happens one of the greatest obstacles to success is success means you've got something working but to get to the next level you have to let go of this and it's hard to let go of something that's producing a lot of money a lot of fame and fortune a lot of celebrity status a lot of speaking requests and everything was working in terms of the outer world looking at it but I woke up one morning and I just wasn't doing for me anymore it's like you give me a story about a one legged man climbing Mount Everest which should be really inspiring and I go Oh not another story about it when a man climb Mount Everest when that's going to stop and we sat down together and talked about it was sort of time to take everything we had used to build this building our brand and share it with the world and it took about a year to find the new thing the success was heavy Aubrey said you need to write a book about success the success principles and at first I didn't think I knew enough I didn't do it or not what do I have to say is really meaningful it's all been said before in all the considerations that come up but she prevailed and I wrote it took about eight months to write it was my whole everything I learned in life about my success or anyone else's we joke around here it's the big white book it's sort of the Bible of success it really is the fundamental principles that if you follow them they work Hi >> there I'm Jack Canfield and I'd like to speak to everyone out there who's currently standing on the precipice of their next big evolution in life but are hesitating to take that scary first step into the unknown I know it can be hard to move beyond your comfort zone but the results are always worth it and so today I'd like to share some tips on how to take the first step on your journey toward achieving your biggest dreams and creating a life that truly >> fulfills you as you can imagine in my line of work I meet a lot of people who have big hopes and dreams for their lives and I've helped a lot of people get super clear on what they want their life to look like and I've shown them how to create a detailed plan that will take them from where they are currently to where they want to be in their lives and as they create their vision for the future and gain valuable clarity into what their lives could easily look like I see how excited they get at the possibilities in the idea of how incredible their lives will become once they do the work required to bring their vision to life but when they get back home there's always a certain number of people who take zero action on their plan and end up remaining stuck right where they are as you can imagine this is very upsetting because I know they have what it takes to achieve any goal they can imagine and make their most ambitious dreams a reality all they have to do is believe in themselves and take action and this is where they fail and I don't want this to happen to you I don't want you to remain stuck where you are when everything you've ever wanted is easily within your reach and that's why I'm going to tell you how to get unstuck and take that first brave step towards your dreams i started my career as a high school teacher in Chicago so it was really I was teaching history it was an all black school started teaching African-American history because no one was doing that and then I realized my kids needed self-esteem even more than they needed to know anything else so that was really what began all of the success principles these kids needed to know how to be successful their parents weren't particularly successful because a lot of them were in a ghetto situation and I was fortunate enough to meet a man named W. Clement Stone who was worth about five hundred million dollars back in the 1970s so he taught me a lot that I didn't know I began to bring that to my classroom I ended up getting elected Teacher of the Year by the students which was really exciting first year teacher but the reality is that I wrote the book the success was because most people don't know how to be successful that it was there is a science of success that's not taught in our schools it's not taught in our universities you have to go either to a ballroom in a hotel and take a seminar with me or Tony Robbins or someone like that or you have to read a book watch some TED talks and kind of a mass of information and I thought if I could put everything I knew up into that point the key principles in one book so that if you only read one book and that's all you ever read you'd be able to be successful and so it took me about twenty five years to amass the information took me about two years to write the book and then there are sixty three principles in the first version that are sixty seven in the tenth anniversary version and I'll tell you why I made a difference the first book had stories by I always have stories about people the principles had to be illustrated these work so I had people like Steve Jobs and you all these different celebrities and athletes and people you know and people go well that's easy for them they got a different DNA that I have So the second time we did the book almost all the stories are people who read the first book applied for principle and now that shows how the principle worked in their life so you can relate to the fact that this person started out as a teacher or a plumber or the homeless or whatever and they still became successful because the principals worked I think that we have to teach children not a subject and that's the first thing there is a human being sitting in front of us and if they don't believe in themselves if they don't think they can learn if they think they're stupid if they have low self-esteem low self-confidence they're afraid of rejection or afraid of making a mistake they think they're not smart Research shows by about the fifth grade kids have decided that they're smart or stupid they've decided they're athletic or not if they're attractive or not and so basically if we don't address those issues and help them feel connected and feel wanted and liked and part of the group and all those layers of Maslow's hierarchy of needs what happens is they're not able to attend to the things we want them to attend to which is learning math and social studies and science and all this good stuff so I was fortunate enough to be able to take maybe five to ten minutes of each class and integrate some of these exercises like find a partner talk about what's the challenge in your life talk about something you love talk about your favorite TV show talk about a fear you have whatever every day something new a different person so by the end of like 30 40 days kids are interacting with everyone in my class where in some schools you go in you've got the jock sitting here you've got the break kids here you've got the gang members here you've got the Goths over here all the different groups and they don't interact with each other and then they feel isolated and so it's really important for kids to realize I'm lovable and I'm capable and significant and those are the three aspects of self-esteem like for instance if I was an elementary school teacher I would have a role no one can throw a birthday party and invite kids from this class kids need to know that something's impossible and you if you compare yourself to only the people you see on TV you're usually going to come up short because and then now we have social media everyone does all the Photoshop on themselves before they even become Tic-Tac or wherever they go So the reality is that we need to see adults who are successful who share their feelings who are honest and open who are passionate about what they do you know a lot of teachers are not that passionate about teaching they stay there because they don't know where to go or whatever and so I think you have to be you know one of my friends once said the problem with education is used to study with Masters you want to be a painter you study with a master you worked in a workshop you to be a sculptor I want to be an engineer you want to build churches farmer whatever it was then when we made public education for everybody that one of the masters to go around so if you're not a person who loves poetry and you're teaching poetry and an English class kids know that so are you passionate about your subject are you passionate about life do you believe your students can grow up to do anything they want to a lot of teachers I was working in Arkansas once and these teachers said to me when I first came in you're teaching these kids lies they can't grow up to do anything they want they'll be lucky if they get a little farm they work their dad gives them ten acres to farm you know you're lying to them you're going to create frustration in their that's what the teachers believed so the reality is if you believe that you're communicating that to your students so if you believe you can do anything and you love yourself and you think you're a great person and you have high self-esteem you're managing that to the you know you're manifesting that to the kids there was a quote I saw in an old teacher magazine once it's a teacher who you are speaking so loudly I can't hear a word you're saying so if you're an angry person you're telling everyone they should be kind if you're standing up or smoking a cigaret telling tell they shouldn't do it they're going to do it so if you have to become you say the product the product you have to be walking the talk you have to be exhibiting what you're asking your kids to grow up and be my my thinking about fear has changed over the years it's evolved so first it was called feel the fear and do it anyway you know like if you go to Tony Robbins and you do a fire walk you're going to be afraid I was afraid I did it and but it was called I did it anyway so any time you do something and survive the risk your self-confidence builds so the first time I taught school first day I was scared but I survived second day I survived that after a couple of weeks I'm pretty good at this you know so you have to be willing to do the thing you're afraid of that was kind of my old model now we know that all fear is self created you've seen the acronym Fantasized Experiences appearing real so I have to go into the future even if there was a snake crawling toward us right now you'd have to go into the future and imagine the snake biting in order to be afraid because right now there's just a snake moving around on the floor so fear is I imagine I'm going to get I'm going to lose my mortgage I'm going to get disbarred I'm going to be rejected I'm going to ask that woman out for a date who's going to say no you know my kids aren't going to learn I'm going to lose my job but it's all in the future so if we can stop that and say OK what do I want to have you know not what if that happens but what if it works out well what would that look like now I visualize that because fear is just you visualizing something in the future and then your body responds I could have you close your eyes as I do to many people imagine standing on the edge of a skyscraper terrace with no railing looking down and you would start to have some physical reaction everybody does why the body can't tell the difference between a Visualize event and a real event so when you're imagining bad things are going to take my car back I'm going to get arrested you know whatever it is then you are going to experience physiological fear it is going to feel real because you're feeling it it's feels really they feel fear as well but it's created by yourself so we can stop creating the fear the third thing I've learned is you can be in the present moment in the present moment everything's fine there's a roof over my head or so in my refrigerator I can be afraid I'm not going to be able to pay the rent because of covid or whatever but that's in the future so come present what's happening out lastly there's something called tapping which we won't go into in depth but you can literally learn to tap on nine acupuncture points in your body while you think of the thing you're afraid of and literally within five minutes or less it literally disappears from your body and it doesn't come back in most cases so it's called F.T.

Emotional Freedom Technique it's called tapping I encourage all of you to check it out you can go to YouTube and just type in tapping or Ifti tapping and there's hundreds of people teaching you how to do it it's a simple self-administered acupressure technique and you're going to tap with a couple of fingers on electrically sensitive parts of the body I know it sounds really crazy doesn't it but it works it works >> and you should be teaching our kids to do this in the classroom they're about to take a test they get test anxiety either whatever the Jaurhs or whatever it may be the reality is we can disappear that so what you're telling me is that we let fear fear control our lives because we're looking at it all differently right we don't understand it and what we understand that we're creating it we can stop creating it or we can disappear neurologically using these acupuncture points by tapping on it and there's a number of books out there I wrote one called Tapping into Ultimate Success where I talk you teach you how to tap on any resistance that comes up on any of the success principles that are in my book The Success Principles find out Tony Robbins says success leaves clues people have written books they've done TED talks there's masterclasses on TV you can watch there's all kinds of things that tell you how to invest in real estate how to be an online talk show host I mean they're all there how to run a podcast how to write a best selling book so find what those steps are I can interview someone like I could go to you and say hey you're doing TV tell me what you did how did you do that take somebody to lunch bring a expert in your class at school you're teaching and let the kids interview them so that they know what the steps are that people normally take now we have to say OK if this is where I want to be where do I have to be a year from now six months from now three months from now two months from now tomorrow what do I need to do first I want to be a singer maybe I should go buy a guitar and start taking guitar lessons sign up for a voice try out for the school play you know whatever it is there are some obvious steps and if they're not obvious find someone who's already done it i was in a TV show once in Texas and this woman who's in my makeup I said What's your dream And she said I want to hold my own salon and I said Well great what are you doing to make that happen she said nothing I said That's a terrible strategy it will not get you there and she said Well I don't know what to do to Omarosa like I said I have a radical idea go salon owner they're everywhere in every mall and ask her or him what they did and she would wow what a good idea it's there you just have to be willing to reach out get it and then there's some obvious next step and the next step may just be to read a book about it to watch a YouTube video about it whatever it may be but there's so much information available if you want a computer or a cell phone you have access to everything and that's what I love about the 10th edition because it does it brings in social media it brings in the Internet but there's something you said in her too is when you gave the advice to take someone to lunch ask questions yes why are we afraid to ask we're all afraid of rejection but again let's go back to fear that's in the future hasn't happened yet and you know a friend of mine wrote a book called Go for No said don't set a goal to get is that goal I'm going to get 20 no's today I'm going to ask twenty people my goal is to get 20 no's now invariably when you get 20 no's you get a yes along the way yes but I don't get bummed out when I get another great great it oh this is good I'm on my way to yes you know so the reality is with chicken soup for the Soul great book may be able to have the home we're videoing today that book was rejected by one hundred and forty four publishers over the course of a year and a half before one publisher said yes but it took one yes to change my life and here's the deal if you don't ask someone for a meeting you already have a no you're giving yourself a no and if they say no it didn't get worse you still have no if I ask you to have dinner with me made you say no I didn't have anyone to dinner with before I asked you I don't have anyone to eat dinner with after I asked you my life did not get worse it only gets worse if I go in again it's me my responsibility and go Nobody loves you but it was right at you with your mouth open you're going to die alone you know all that kind of stuff we do do ourselves but that's us ask I have a chapter called Ask Ask guys guys guys guys guys guys guys you have to ask a lot of people before someone will say yes and that's OK and if you're watching this one of the clues is when they say no follow up question what would it take what would have to happen for you to say yes we would have to happen for you to see yes and no doesn't mean it's no forever it means no for now then you're going to get occasionally going to get what we call inspired ideas act on you know I said no no I think I should go to that Starbucks today instead of that one I feel like I should call my sister I don't know why and you go to that Starbucks and you start talking to the person in front of you and they're looking for a system producer for a TV show you know that it was you'd never know you got to trust it we all know that eye in the sky camera that looks bad and says there's a traffic jam this way there's an eye in the sky looking down called your high self you could call it God you could call it Spirit whatever it is that knows what's best for you at any given moment but most of us never access that because we don't listen to our inner guidance we don't listen to those inspirations in the shower when we're putting on our makeup what I call hands busy mind free time when you're driving to work when you're walking on the beach or when you're meditating which we all need to do because then your mind slows down you can hear that >> still small voice within you're a walking billboard for our work you literally are like a model par excellence of someone who took the principles applied them shared them made a huge contribution to so many people especially women and I just want to encourage you to keep keep on keeping on and thanks of being part of my life I'm glad to call you my friend thank >> you so much >> for using the beginning of the first transformation of my life literally since every area and the second is being the second fifteen meditation the third year old me I >> have been a big dreamer ever since I was little you know I was this kid that I would run to the mailbox when I was younger and I would actually go through the free advertisements that would come in the mailbox because I came from very frugal beginnings and so we didn't have you know People magazine or anything like that coming to a house so I would go through all of the free ads and I would cut out pictures that would represent things that I wanted to put in my dream book and I had one of those three ring binders I don't remember having one of those and they had those very special pages inside that I could peel off stick my pictures and put back down >> right oh wow you're going to I I am >> and this was before I even realized what I was doing this was before vision boards were mainstream where I had language around the fact that I was being clear about my dreams or that I was visualizing what would come and my brother was out playing basketball and jailbreak with that was like the tag bag That's right and I was in my room creating a dream book so I have always been a very very big dreamer it led me to a lot of different places in my life but I will let you know that there is a point in my life where I became complacent I started to check off the boxes if you will I don't know if anybody out there can relate to us but I just started to do what I thought I should be doing or what is expected of me and all of the sudden I was doing things just to check a box right or just to be in the lane that I thought I was supposed to be in and there we came to a point where the universe started to wake me up and I was getting physical react was OK to this life that I was living and this was in my mid to late twenties I had a great job I was working in corporate I was making really good money at the time and it was just fine but it really wasn't what I was supposed to be doing and it certainly wasn't me fulfilling my wildest biggest dream and so I started to feel physically that this wasn't right for me but I couldn't I couldn't identify >> what that was at the time right so I would just stuff it stuff it stuff it until it got to the point where I couldn't ignore it any longer and I started to experience things in my body that had me go to a cardiologist and when I went to that first appointment they basically said we are getting you in for emergency surgery that we don't that you'll make it that long because you have a condition that your heart beats too much too fast and we are going to get you through all of the testing that we possibly can because we need to get you in for heart surgery immediately and I thought to myself what is going on I'm twenty seven years old now at the time and here I am being faced with the fact that I might not have any more time and I can tell you that at this age in your life right being presented that young with something so permanent it really really shifted things for me and so this is really where my dream started to crystallize by saying OK if I only have this short amount of time left in my life right or if I can really start to see that life is as precious as they say I've got to feel it in that moment that life was really that precious I started to say what have I not done yet and then all of the sudden I said You know what I really want to share my life with someone I really wanted to become a mother I wanted to have children so I started on this path right of you know I went on I got married I poured into my children ends up having two beautiful girls I went on to show up really big in my career but then it happened again I was standing in the middle of my house and I was looking around >> I was going oh wow I showed up really big every other area of my life but there wasn't one area of my life at that time that I was showing up big for myself and that was the turning point in my life because I was looking at my two younger daughters and I could see what was capable for them I could see the dreams that I wanted for them and what I knew that they were truly capable of fulfilling for their life but I wasn't really showing up for those big dreams that I had when I was a little girl and it was at that point that everything changed for me because what I realized is that I will be completely transparent I couldn't do it for myself but it was when I was doing it for my children that I could really start showing up fully in my dreams and that's actually what led me to write my first book and it is what set me on the trajectory that I am on today you know the first time I went down this path it was I feel like the conditioning of what it was supposed to look like without me really asking myself are you showing up authentically in this or you just kind of going along right with everyone else and what is expected of you or what you think you should be doing or what you think it should look like >> that's what I was doing the first time I did get a wake up call and those were dreams that I had but the second path >> if you will I realized that I made my dreams about everyone else and I wasn't actually making my dreams about what was inside of me and those were part of my dreams but there was more to it our first book is called More Than Mud and it's a children's book that teaches children how to make muddy moments magical which is basically a way for children to understand the power of positive thinking and really takes mindset tools and techniques and it translate them into a language that children can understand and it happened when I wrote this book for my children is that other mothers said we've been waiting for a book like this and that book ended up staying on the bestseller charts for over one hundred weeks straight and I knew that that only happened because it was the point in my life where I let everything else go and I made the decision to truly show up as authentic me it's it's a windy road to get to where we're going and that was the point of the first book even for children to let them know and brace the windy roads and the bumps in the road and all of those things because they're not going to go away but it's really how we handle that turn and that bump right that creates the life that we see around us and so with that book I didn't realize or even have the forward thinking about it to say who's going to be buying children's books well it's moms right women great moms and these beautiful women we're buying the children's book reading the story to their children and then they were contacting me and they were saying my kids love this book we have a little fun factor in the book you get to find a little hidden ladybug on every single page right so the kids love >> love love this book and they were saying but I feel like I am getting more out of this than the children do you do anything for adults do you have something for adults and so this really got me thinking OK I got enough people asked I had to start listening so when I got that wake up call from the universe and had to have that heart surgery I really started to listen to these signs from the universe right these wink's that we get all throughout our life and so I knew now at this point in my life how to listen how to pay attention to those things and how to listen this was another wink and it said wake up and listen to the feedback wake up and listen to what people are asking for and what people are telling you and so I think that there is so much power and story it's really where we all connect because we are right the core at the core we all are so much alike we want to be understood we want to be acknowledged we want to be loved we want to be accepted we want fulfillment and in my belief we all have greater dreams for >> our life and you get to have that you don't have to feel guilty for wanting more we always are going to grow with life right and so you can either let life happen right or you can lean into that growth and you can really create right to allow your greatest dreams to become reality come on once said you're the average of the five people you spend the most time with in my life as a team member that became the most important is a woman named Patty Aubrey I hired her as my first secretary and now she's the president of my company she's really good at keeping relationships going with people I'm kind of buried in my research and trying to learn the next thing that I can teach writing my books and so forth so you want to find someone to compliment your talents and compensates for your weaknesses it just became a great relationship and a great partnership and over time we started with self-esteem seminars we started teaching teachers and then chicken soup happened I met Jack in September of nineteen eighty nine and I really didn't know what I wanted to do I didn't know what I wanted to be I was twenty four years old and I started looking to the paper and looking to the paper and I saw this job and it said Secretary wanted twenty five thousand a year call me whatever you want for twenty five thousand year 1989 that's a bad job for some of those twenty four out of school it didn't say what it was for or anything like that and I drove down to Pacific Palisades and I went into this townhouse for this interview with this guy and his wife and and they talked to me about their business and how they were doing self esteem work and I didn't understand any of it really and we met I was twenty four he was forty nine if you asked me if I was going to be working with him when I was fifty when he was seventy two I would look at you like you have three heads but it was sort of a match made in heaven I was really more of a business side and he really was so driven by making a difference that it was a great team and for me it was the first time that someone trusted me enough to let me just be my crazy self I can do that and Patty are such a team and Patty is like one of her foundations she stands alone and that she's always been she is super loyal friend and partner and she's got his back she holds that she's she's she's next to him she's out in front of them she works really really hard to support him and make sure that his mission gets out to as many people as it can and she really she really sees that his work makes >> a difference my background well I grew up in the San Fernando Valley so I'm artificial Valley Girl and and literally took me I went to college in San Diego and San Diego State and and I was saying to to earlier like I never want to take typing and my dad was a typist in the army and I said I'm not going to take typing my secretary is going to do that my dad said no doubt our mind is not I take typing and so I did thank God and because what happened was I started working I answered an ad in the paper that said Secretary wanted and I always said I'll never be a secretary but I had set a goal one goal I'd never set a goal in my life I didn't know what a goal was and I had set a goal that I want to make twenty five thousand a year I was making fourteen thousand nine hundred a at the time I answered the ad in the paper turned out it was Jack Canfield and I didn't get the job >> so I thought well there must be something better anyway he called back a few months later and said actually the person didn't work out and I would love you to come back in for an interview and so I said OK but it's going cost you extra I want thirty he said OK I oh wow he's nice and he's willing to be you know pay that who knows what will happen so that's how I started I started as a secretary and went from there when I was a secretary I eventually worked my way up to VP of Operations very quickly because I thought this place isn't working we need to rig everything and so I kind of changed everything out and it was probably about three months in that I was working with Jack he came back to the office one day and said Hey I want to write a book and I want to put all these stories in a book I thought OK why not thank God I was twenty four no opinion today I would have an opinion all right let's do it so we worked on it for years and we it took us five years to actually publish that first book because we edited and edited and edited it before it came out and it came out in ninety three and we had a best seller lists in ninety four I want to say maybe ninety five and so the publisher would sing the song Keep those chickens rollin rollin rollin so we said we'll do a second book and then Martha Shimaa called and said I have an idea to do chicken soup for the women and Jack said That's great thank you she said No no you're not a woman and he went You're right in that was sort of the beginning of the series and so then my sister had come to work with me I was pregnant with my first son and she was in nursing school she just graduated she was waiting to study or pass the state board yes and so I said please help me just get through all these stories we have millions of stories at the same time my mom was diagnosed with cancer and so I'm home nursing my husband walks in and says I have good news and bad news and bad news so your mom has cancer what's the good news it's like they caught it so early she's going to be fine and so as she is going through treatments my sister said why don't you put together a book called Chicken Soup for the Surviving Soul and I said to her and I quote For everyone listening why would they ever let us do a chicken soup book we work here and she said Excuse me why would they not let you you have been working so hard for years to make this book a success and so we I said all right so we went in and I was really nervous and >> we had the whole proposal for Jack Mark and said we really >> want is a great idea but if it hadn't been for my sister saying hold on a second you deserve this I never would have gone on to write fifteen other New York Times best sellers I was actually taking myself off the field out of the game before the coach took me out of the game you know I was editing my dreams and goals before they were I was literally saying no to myself before I was even giving them the opportunity so my story was I didn't go to Harvard I'm not smart enough to know I'm lucky to have this job so for me that was not going to take me to the next level and I think a lot of us just we get our beliefs get in our way and our old stories are the old version of us and so we have to have a new story for our new version and we also have to have people who are there to say you can do this you've got this and if you don't have that it's very hard to do it because we just talk ourselves out of it i always say if you leave me alone long enough with myself >> you'll not it's not a good thing I'll talk myself out of anything so I do this work not for myself but to empower other women to really have that opportunity to have the you know to give themselves permission to be seen and if they say well she went from secretary to CEO maybe I can have something to do and so I share and I share and I share because I want women to get there sooner I hid for years I didn't own my greatness at all even though I had all these best selling books I still think people would say what you don't like he's an author I'd point to Jack I never owned it and so >> I want to be the reminder for these women if you are worthy you do deserve this you're not being selfish you're doing the thing that God put you on this planet to do and so I am I used to be a cheerleader for one man and now I'm a cheerleader for the world of women and so you have to develop the habits like building a new muscle and so you have to walk through the fire to get to the other side and the only way to do that is to survive the risks >> so go for it go for your dream do it no even if it's an out of body experience and I'm not I can't believe I'm doing this it doesn't matter you just have to do it and do it again and do it again and do it again and tell it somewhat becomes normal and then we get to a plateau and then we have a new dream or we have a goal and then we have to grow some more and then we have to get scared again and I've been very scared on so many occasions I been so scared but I knew if I didn't do it I was going to break my promise to my mother and I told her I would no longer be invisible for so long I was waiting for somebody else to grant me permission and and I was getting resentful I was getting upset I was telling myself stories that people must not think I'm good enough or they would give me permission to come and speak or could come and do whatever it was was next for me which was really speaking and coaching other women and I remember I was in the car with my business partner Jack Campfield and I said I was upset and I said Well why aren't you just supporting me the way I've supported you is like well what are you talking about what do you want and I said Well I want to I want to be on stage more and I want to do this I want to do that like well when were you going to tell me I'm not a mind reader you never asked and so if you don't ask you don't get and say OK well I'm giving myself permission and I'm kind of angry because I hadn't really owned >> it yet so I'm several years ago so now I'm a little bit more graceful about giving myself permission OK like OK permission granted I'm going to ask for what I want I'm going to do what I want I'm going to go for my dreams and I'm going to ask for support and ask for help where I need it and so I started that down that journey and and life became a lot easier it was a lot happier but you know I was waiting for someone else and there is no other person other than us ourselves we have to give ourselves permission to really look at what do I really want because how often I work with women all day long I say well what do you really want not what you think you can have but what you really really want and they look at me like I have three heads because how often do we really take the time to think about what do we truly want and if we believe that anything is possible we don't have to figure out the the logical way to get there we just have to have a huge dream and then we to share it with others and you know life unfolds but it didn't start that way I mean really what happened for me was I hid for a long time and then what happened was we sold chicken soup for the soul but now what do we do now I now have the chicken soup and so I have no I have nowhere to hide and so my mom had she had gotten a second bout of cancer and she said to me on her deathbed she said Promise me that you will take credit and she said I didn't raise a daughter to be invisible you just show up and speak up and be seen you're just as responsible as everybody else in the cast of characters to make these things happen promise me and I did so for me that's what I know I have and so if I get scared I just know that she's there and she's supporting me so >> my mission is to make sure that if I hear from anybody something that they want to do it's big and scary and boogie woogie I am there to support them because I want them to get there further and faster than I did because I did I pass on so many opportunities so many more people would call and say Oh can you share one >> I work OK so all I did chicken soup for the >> surviving soul and from that I realized people were surviving the people that had faith I thought well maybe I chicken soup for the Christian Soul next and so as I started to go I started getting all these offers to speak come to this coliseum with 7000 people oh I'm too busy you know I'm I'm the president of Chicken Soup because I was such a chicken >> pardon the pun to actually step >> into the next version of me when the universe is like can you do this can you do this can you do this and I finally did at one point and I was scared to death but my story was I'll >> forget my lines I won't know what I'm talking about I didn't realize there's actually a formula to a presentation yeah anybody can learn it let's figure it out which I teach that now to oh to know >> how to speak your message and how to not get lost and what are the key ingredients and how to think like an architect and all these different things but I I literally hid from that opportunity and I would have sold more millions of books I would have made a massive difference in the world and I made a huge difference but I think my ego got in the way I know my you got in the way and had I thought you know in order for as many women as possible as many people as possible to hear my message I have to be a scaredy cat and get up on that huge stage anyway but I didn't have anybody that was real eager to get me there because I had a full time job I was I had babies I was raising a family I had a husband who was my I thought my wife was going to stay home you know so I had all that going on the guilt and all those wonderful things that happened to all of us when we're building our business and our our families at the same time so I just stayed in my comfort zone and and then called Mercy at some point who did chickens for the women soul and said Hey Ma how much did you make in speaking not through our books and she said You don't want to know so I'm just gonna tell you I passed up on a whole lot of money so >> I didn't get the money I wasn't able to share my message with more people and I stayed small and that was that was then this is now and so now my mission is to really be that person for other women to see that I mean if I can do it anybody can do it and I was a C student I got a D in English took me seven years to get through college I mean it's not I'm nothing special but I was enthusing and I believed in the mission and I had the passion and it became my purpose >> are you tired of feeling sick frustrated unfulfilled and constantly telling yourself that things will get better someday i had this permanent burning feeling of anxiety like I should be doing something I'm never good like I just feel like it's never enough >> today is that day I'll welcome back you're going to hear from a few of these people where they are and the other side of where you want to be it's time to fully own your dreams and let go of the stories that are stopping you from bringing those dreams to life I felt like my purpose was somewhere out there and I needed to find it I don't belong I felt like I was wearing a mask like I was living a lie so you can achieve your most ambitious goals and create a life you truly love >> ordinary people doing ordinary things and they're all people just like you whatever line of work you're in whatever walk of life doing the things we're teaching you and as a result of that producing extra results identify your purpose the sell dollar piece of art will break through doing black and white clear as day I did it be sure to join Jack live for this online interactive event thank you Jack for putting it online because we pandemic travel is practically impossible it was nice having it virtual where it could participate from my own >> house you'll do this life changing work virtually from the comfort and safety of your own home it was intimate and we all had front row seats an entire three day weekend focused on you your bright future is ready for you to claim it all it needs is for you to get clear on what you really want and ask yourself what do I want >> to do the universe will take care of the rest and Jack will show you how I >> mean the most crazy serendipitous unimaginable law of attraction happened universe when you put things in the universe great things happens it's time to take massive action towards your dreams really >> got clear on some business evolution I'm doing right now make a bigger impact on the world have my own show featured on CTV National News for my show my show helps people make more money by taking these principles that I learned I've married them to my money knowledge and I'm writing a book it should be coming out this year say goodbye to last year and embrace the possibilities ahead right through to success really can't be explained it can only be experience that's literally the blueprint make next year your year and discover what your true capable of breakthrough to success is a training that everyone on planet Earth should take massively accelerate progress towards your dreams during this powerful three day interactive experience with Jack Canfield make this year about you sign up now your new future awaits this is breakthrough route to success welcome back I hope you enjoyed that documentary Phil as inspired as we felt after we shot this documentary in Santa Barbara I asked Dave and John to hang out with me so that we can continue our thoughts and conversations about this documentary and they're here so I want to continue my conversation that was so wonderful thank you so much now we shot this we thought we were going to use it for a different show but then all of a sudden we or I asked you both you guys if we can do this as a documentary do you feel like I feel that this is so important of a message right now that viewers see the different side of both all three of these people as >> I said in the beginning I think it's a strong strong message >> and I think people are looking for inspiration >> and I really feel I mean now that we're at the end I felt like we just tipped the very top of the iceberg right that there's so much more story to tell and I'm I'm hoping that we collectively get the opportunity to tell more of this story because it's so amazing so inspiring and I think I think people are going to find real interest and I like how you said there is more to this story and I think that as a documentary filmmaker I think it's so tough for us to decide what do we put in what do we take out when do we leave the story and sometimes we leave the story just so that we can get it out there but there's always more to tell completely I mean I don't know what you would say John but I almost feel like this is a trailer for projects to come yeah people think about editing in interesting ways because I love your title authentic Conversations that's a heart that can be harder to find than people think it can be harder to see in media than people think and I think this is a really super authentic look at how they think it just kind of leaves the door open for lots more I do and another thing too when you talk about authentic conversations one when I was even I was talking to Jack and I just remember doing all of that research and that's what we do we all had to research even you had twenty four hours notice but you had to be there and we walk into there thinking that we know these people because of our research but then we find there's other parts of them that we didn't even consider I mean I knew that Jack was a high school teacher but I didn't know and and I knew Chicago but you look at a Jack Canfield now you would never know that he was teaching and one of the I mean challenge most challenging high schools in the country I mean I felt that way I want to know what you are filling with any of the conversations >> well Jack in particular I had met Jack many many years ago I didn't know on a stage with Tony Robbins and things like that one of the big emotional show and at that time I met Jack >> ever so briefly and he struck me >> as a very very genuine nice person who really cares deeply and I think that hold genuine part of him makes you want to tumbler and more to get up next to him you know and when we met him again in Santa Barbara I felt the exact same thing just like we were friends he engaged us in dialog I thought man what a what a real person and that's where I think his message is even stronger because you feel so closely connected with them >> and I think he attracts people like which is why I mean Kate and Patty story had so much emotion to it but because it seems they're all on the same mission together right yeah and they're I mean those are two powerful women brusher so that that that's inspirational by itself because more and more of those stories have needed told for a lot of years in our industry and they are finally being told and so this is a small contribution on that Jack seems like he's always championed women like Kate and Patty over over those years and so yeah to hear them all three together I thought was just great well before in this conversation anymore you'd like to ask when's the next one oh my goodness you are the one that got me that Rosie let's go OK well maybe we can just get through the holiday season OK always a new year so find something somewhere but Dave and John thank you so much for joining me and what an incredible documentary it's it's such a pleasure and honor to work with you and now we have our own little thing going so everybody >> will see what we do next and thank you for joining me on this special screening of Authentic Conversations Deep Talk with the Masters on KLCC it's viewers like you that make these types of screenings possible so follow us on social media take care and stay well