- I am completely pro-government.

Yeah.

What I am not is socialism.

If, if, if we can't get I to a point where we completely understand now and believe because they're not even keeping as a secret anymore.

They call themselves the Socialist Democrats of California and the Socialist Democrats of America.

If you can't see that, that that is directly in defiance and against our Constitution and, and the United States of America, you might be part of the problem of why we're here.

- Hey, everyone from KQED in San Francisco.

This is political breakdown.

I'm Marisa Lagos today on the breakdown, the final interview in our ongoing series with the many candidates vying to be California's next governor, Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco is one of the top polling candidates, a Republican who has spent his career in law enforcement and has been controversial at times.

As Sheriff Bianco says, he wants to cut taxes and spending.

Sheriff Bianco, welcome to Political Breakdown.

- Thank you.

I'm glad to be here.

- I'm glad to have you.

Well, we are opening these episodes with the same question for everybody, which is, who are you politically and what's your vision for this great state?

- So who am I politically?

I am no one politically.

I am Chad Bianco.

I'm a husband, a dad, a grandpa and the sheriff of Riverside County politics are destroying the state, and they have, for a long time, politics used to be okay.

50, 60, 70 years ago, politics was okay.

And the longer we go, the worse it's getting.

We're turning into a third world country.

You have to hate the people that don't agree with you or don't vote for you or vote for the person that you want.

You have to hate them now.

Hmm.

And it's, it's absolutely disgusting.

It is destroying not only our state, it's destroying our country, and we're gonna turn into a third world country until we get rid of the D's and the R's and we start voting for people of character, integrity, honesty, leadership, ability.

Those are the things that we're supposed to be caring about when we put people in office, not if they're a Democrat or a Republican.

And so who am I Pub?

You know, who am I politically?

I'm absolutely no one.

I despise politics.

Public service is supposed to be doing things for other people.

And my career, 33 years of doing something every single day to make other people's lives better, God gave me the ability or the, the, the joy in life of helping other people.

And it's, it's been since I was a little kid and it's - Well, I want to talk about that.

Yeah.

- It's, it's no different now.

And I am only doing this to make Californian's lives better.

It, it is silly to say for anyone to say that I'm doing this for the Republican party and I'm gonna turn this state red, blue and red have destroyed this state.

How about I make it Californian?

I mean, I don't, I don't, we can come up with a different color or why even call it a color Gold.

Gold might be the right color.

I mean, gold is fine.

I mean, it's, it's, it's our state color.

Right.

But it's, we should be about Californians.

Mm.

Not about Democrats.

If, if I am only doing this for Democrats or if I'm only trying to appease to them, or if I'm only trying to appease to Republicans, then half of the state is gone.

Yeah.

I don't, that means I don't care about the other half.

And that's where we are right now.

I, I'll I'll say it front and center.

Gavin Newsom cares nothing about me.

He cares absolutely nothing about anyone in the Republican party.

Gavin Newsom cares about himself and his Democrat agenda.

End of story.

- All right.

Well, let's come back to politics.

I wanna talk a little bit about you, who you were as a little kid.

- Absolutely.

I - Believe you were born and raised in Utah.

- I was - Military family, perhaps.

- My dad was in the Air Force when I was born.

Okay.

So I was born at Hill Air Force Base.

He was in Vietnam.

When he came home, he got out and then we lived in the town that he grew up in.

And you have my mom too.

- You have two younger brothers, I think - Two younger brothers.

Talk about - Your childhood.

Like what was the vibe at your house?

What, what was it like?

- I had an amazing childhood.

I had an amazing dad.

My mom and dad both worked.

So we were in a very small town.

My grandparents were also amazing.

Both sides of the family.

And both sides were different experiences.

I had a business side of the family and I had a, a hardworking, I mean, they're all hardworking, but a but a more of a blue collar, maybe blue collar, ranching, outdoor side of the family.

And I grew up both ways.

Yeah.

I obviously leaned one way, but the upbringing was great.

I was, I was raised by a town of men that, that believed in integrity, that believed in helping other people that believed that they were all my dads and they were watching out for me while I was in the, it was a small town, a thousand people, hardworking people.

Yeah.

And my mom and dad knew everything I did that day before I got home.

And everyone watched out for everyone takes a village that it, it was, and I was disciplined by other men in the town knowing that my, they'd do it instead of my dad.

Right.

And probably save me from my dad.

But I was raised with integrity.

I was raised with a hard work ethic.

And you, I mean, you don't complain.

You just work harder and you do things for yourself and for other people.

You make your own life better.

- Yeah.

What brought you to California?

- California brought me to California.

I was 11 years old.

I came to Santa Monica to play in the Little League World Series.

- Oh my gosh.

- And we were put up with a family here, two, me and my best friend.

We were 11.

We were a, a family, took us in for the, for the 10 days.

And they had a, a thir, a 13-year-old boy and a 16-year-old daughter.

And they took us everywhere.

She had a driver's license.

She took us everywhere.

We were at the pier.

We were at the beach.

We were in, we two 11-year-old kids from a small town.

We had never heard of an arcade.

So we go into this building that is nothing, but it's an arcade.

And it's like, oh my gosh.

And then we went to their birthday parties and for their friends in the park.

It was amazing.

My entire life was about baseball.

But when I got home from that trip, I could not remember one single thing about the games.

Oh, wow.

I couldn't tell my mom and dad anything about the games other than I know we lost.

But I, I told them, I'm moving to California.

- Yeah.

I know.

Faith is a big part of your life and your family's life.

You, I believe, are active in Sandals church and Evangelical church.

What drew you to the evangelical world, and like how does your faith shape the way you approach your public service?

- It, my faith affects everything I do.

It affects my family life.

It affects my work life.

It's, it's something that is a, is a major part of me.

I grew up in a very small town with different religious backgrounds on both sides of the family.

And when I came to California, I found more of the Evangel, the evangelical, I can't even say it.

- Evangelical.

Yeah.

- We got Thank you Christian Church.

It was Harvest Church in Riverside.

Pastor Greg Laurie, that is, that is his calling, is bringing people to Jesus Christ.

And the first time I went to his church, it was the message that I needed to hear.

It answered a lot of questions from that different religions were causing in my head.

And it answered that.

And it's been different for me ever since.

I think that in a, in a, the world that I live in, the world I live in is evil.

I don't, we don't have interactions with good people.

The good people I have interactions with are victims.

We're trying to help them.

We're trying to, to rescue them from their lives.

It's the evilness that I deal with on a daily basis that good people, the rest of the public sometimes don't want to believe or admit that are there.

And the bad things that happen if you do, if you are not a person of faith, if you do not believe that there is a good and an evil and a God and a devil, you, you are going to have a very hard time in, in, in law enforcement because you, you have to be able to draw that line, and you have to be able to answer some of the questions that are posed.

Why, why did that, why did that child get murdered?

Why did that child die?

- So do you think it matters if it's a Christian faith or just any faith?

- I think it's a faith in something higher than yourself.

Hmm.

I don't, I don't wanna say that you just have to be Christian.

Right.

I mean, as a Christian, that's what you believe.

Yeah.

Obviously.

I mean, if, if you want to go somewhere better, you have to be a Christian.

There's o the only way there is through Jesus Christ.

So it's, that's my religion.

But at the same time, I have very good friends that, that are Muslim, that are Jewish, that are, that have different beliefs than me.

And I, yeah.

I'm, I'm not gonna criticize them for that.

They, they still have the same values.

- All right.

So you were a sheriff's deputy for years in Riverside County, and then you ran for Sheriff.

What prompted you to run, I believe you challenged an incumbent Stan Sniff quite a name there.

- Yes.

Really the same reason why I'm running now.

It's, it's almost like a little, just a repeat of what I did and how I felt back then compared to what I'm doing now and why I'm running for governor.

I knew, I absolutely knew how broken we were as an agency, that we were not doing everything we were supposed to be doing for our public.

The morale in my department was absolutely horrific.

We were having between 30 and 40 deputies leave every two weeks.

It was, it was disastrous.

We were lying to the public about where we were spending money, about how we were spending money, about how we were providing a service.

There was nothing on us.

There was no integrity coming from the leadership of our agency.

And I knew we should be doing better.

And it got to a point where I can sit and complain about it.

I can go along with it or I can fix it.

And the only way you could fix it is by having that top spot.

You couldn't do it.

And I was in a top upper level management position, but I can only affect the people right below me.

Mm.

I can't make department-wide changes.

I can't help the county unless you're in that top position, which is exactly why I'm doing this, because I can complain.

I can fight in Sacramento as much as I want.

I can't save the state unless I have that spot.

- There's been some controversy.

You oversee five jails and a 2024 investigation by the New York Times and local paper called The Jail System, the Second Deadliest in the Nation.

Why do you think they cited 2022 is the year they really focused on 19 people died?

Why do you think that is?

And have you made any changes to prevent things like suicides and overdoses and murders?

- The answer is yes and no.

But it's all fake.

- How so?

- It's all complete bs It is a, it is a complete distortion of fact and reality made by not the New York Times.

- Well, can they tell us what's the reality?

- It's by a, it's by a reporter that in 2022 setting in a group of Democrats to determine and decide how they were going to get me out of office.

And it's by fake news articles.

- But there's, I mean, 19 people did die, correct?

- 19 people outta 66,000.

- Okay.

- So let me, let me put it to you this way.

The ne the average in California, the death rate in California is 644 per a hundred thousand.

The death rate in my jails per a hundred thousand is 32.

- Okay.

Did you make any changes?

Did you feel the need to make any changes?

- No.

And the un it's yes and no.

So the reason why all the country, - I mean, I assume you don't want anybody across the anybody to be dying in your jails.

- You don't want anyone dying.

But the reality is, they do.

People die every single day of no one has died because they were in jail.

They died while they were in jail.

I do not, and I would never criticize a mother or father because their, their son overdosed in their house.

Hmm.

I would never criticize a wife if her husband committed suicide.

So why am I, as the sheriff getting criticized when people commit suicide or overdose in my jail?

It was not my fault they chose that.

But this is the reality that we're in, that we blame everyone else instead of the person that's responsible.

In 2022, when all of this happened, my average jail deaths are nine, nine per year.

That is extremely, extremely low.

One of the lowest ever.

In 2022, it went to 18.

13 of them were from suicide and drug overdose, fentanyl, overdose and suicide.

Seven fentanyl overdose, and six suicides at the same time in the entire suicides and fentanyl overdose were astronomical.

Hmm.

Astronomical.

But somehow I am supposed to be responsible for it.

While at the same time, these same reporters are completely, completely ignoring the unbelievable death rates, murder rates, suicide rates and overdose rates in our state prison controlled by Newsom and a Democrat agenda.

They're ignoring that and just concentrating on me, and I'll tell you why it's fake, why it is complete bs because no one, no one has asked me what the, how many people died last year or the year before.

Tell us or the year before.

Last year there was eight.

The year before that, there were six.

So there has - Been a huge decrease.

That's - Huge.

I mean, that's significant.

It's, it's back to normal.

It was a complete anomaly in 2022, all across the country related to that.

But the reporter that now works for the Times was one of our local reporters in that group of Democrats of how are we going to get rid of Chad Bianco?

And the ACLU was all part of it, the two newspapers part of it, and said, we come up with all of these lawsuits, we come up with all of these reports, and then when he runs for election again, we refer back to these reports in the paper.

And then psychologically, everybody believes him.

Interesting.

And it, and to some people, it absolutely works because facts don't matter.

- All right.

Well, I wanna give you the opportunity to respond to a few things.

I know you get heated about these issues, but - Another thing, it's passionate, not heated.

It's, - It's, - It's passionate.

And I appreciate that.

I, my entire life is about truth.

Law enforcement is about truth and lies, integrity and not, and when I'm confronted with lies, I'm not going to let the lies keep going.

I'm going to stick up for the truth.

Always.

- All right.

Well, let me ask you about something that a lot of your critics have sort of keep bringing up, which is that for one year you were part of the Oath Keepers group.

I want you to tell me who they are and why you join them.

- Okay.

I will ask everyone out there.

Have you ever read the mission statement for - The, I I did it.

'cause I heard you talk about this.

Yeah.

- What did you find?

- It's about upholding the Constitution.

They - Say, yeah, it's almost word for word as the ACLU.

- I don't think you like the ACLU.

- The ACLU is, is horrific because the ACLU is absolutely nothing what their mission statement said.

- Okay tell us, Let's stick on the Oath Keepers.

- So it's so You can't criticize me if you love the Im not, I'm just asking.

I'm not.

Why you, I mean, I mean, critics, you can't say how horrible I am when you love the ACLU, but you don't like someone that upholds the Constitution.

So what drew you Oath?

The Oath Keepers was a group of law enforcement officials and military officials that swore an oath to defend our constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

How is that a bad thing now?

Hmm.

How is that a bad thing?

And so what has happened is Democrats, liberal progressive Democrats, now we're learning that the, the Southern Poverty Law Center is completely corrupt and, and egregious in the things that they say and the people that they label as bad.

They're the ones that are bad.

But by what, six years later, seven years later, three people get arrested at January 6th that had membership in that.

See?

And now all of a sudden the entire organization is bad.

- But you did leave after a year, right?

- I can't, yes.

In 2014, it was like, okay, I'll pay for the membership.

I got my little copy of the Constitution.

It offered me nothing.

There was no benefits of being there.

Okay.

It was like, okay.

It, it, it got nothing.

- Well, you said before that you learned of the group and joined through the Constitutional Sheriff and Peace Officers Association.

What is that?

What's a constitutional sheriff?

- It's the same thing.

It's, and that's turning into something that it really isn't.

It's, I swear, an oath to defend my constitution, federal and state.

I did not swear an oath to a governor.

I didn't swear an oath to a mayor, a board of supervisors, or any other person.

My oath is to the people of our state and our country.

And it's abiding by the document that has made us the greatest country in the history of the world.

And if you're going to swear an oath to a person, we are going to fail America.

We are going to fail California.

So a constitutional sheriff is one that actually believes in the Constitution that we should be defending the people that put us in position predominantly in the country.

We are all elected.

Sheriffs are all elected, some are appointed, but mostly they're in state constitutions.

As elected officials, my role is to defend people and their constitutional rights.

Yeah.

And that it's very, very basic.

It's, it's the current environment that we're in that everything has to be made political and how something is now bad when you are, when you are defending the Constitution, that's bad.

I - Mean, it's interesting because critics see that, and the oath keepers as almost anti-government.

And I'm curious, like - If I am, I am completely pro-government.

Yeah.

What I am not is socialism.

If, if we can't get to a point where we completely understand now and believe, because they're not even keeping it a secret anymore.

They call themselves the Socialist Democrats of California and the Socialist Democrats of America.

If you can't see that, that that is directly in defiance and against our Constitution and, and the United States of America, you might be part of the problem of why we're here.

Because Yeah.

Being I am a huge fan of government.

I am, our government made us the greatest country in the history of the world.

But we are not socialists.

We are not Marxists.

Do - You think so that as, as sheriff, as governor, you have to enforce laws that you do not agree with?

- Sometimes yes.

- Okay.

- Sometimes yes.

And then sometimes they're not.

I mean, I absolutely, I was the first, first law enforcement person in the entire country to say, I'm not doing these stupid COVID regulations and rules and arrests.

You, you Gavin Newsom, are not going to release a hundred thousand inmates into our streets.

That victimize us personally.

Victimize us, and then tell me to arrest a single mom because she wants to go to work to put food on the table for her kid.

- So do you think then that as a sheriff running for governor, you're basically asking the public to trust you to decide which laws are lawful?

- It has no, that has nothing to do with anything like that.

Do you want someone with a integrity, - but you didn't feel like the COVID mandates were?

- They weren't.

We absolutely know they weren't.

It wasn't even a law that our legislature wouldn't make it a law because they know it was unconstitutional.

Th this was complete government overreach 100.

And we all know that now.

I mean, we all know that now.

We can't act like it didn't happen.

We all know that now.

And I even said at the time, if you want it to be a law and you want me to enforce those laws, then legislature go ahead and make it a law.

You can do it today.

Yeah.

They didn't because they knew it was against the Constitution and none of them would ever get elected again.

- All right.

I wanna move on 'cause we have other stuff to - Talk - About.

Yes.

The other thing that's been catching a lot of attention is your office's investigation into ballots.

You're, you guys seized about 650 ballots in February.

These were from last November's election.

Why'd you seize them?

- Because we're investigating fraud.

Why do I do homicide investigations?

Yeah.

Because we're investigating murders.

Why do I do rape investigations?

Because we investigate rapes.

We investigate every crime.

And this was an allegation of a crime.

And it's very simple.

There are records from our own registrar of voters that say there were 611,000 ballots, but yet the votes total 656,000.

Why?

So then we ask those questions and there is not an answer.

Our registrar could not give an answer.

- He says there's like 103 votes.

- Oh, he said that Three laters.

He said that he came up with a nice little, a nice little non nonverbal, a verbal response that really didn't give an answer.

But he still gave a completely different answer than the number of votes.

The bottom line is, so - Is that what prompted you to reopen the case?

'cause I know - You had an case, investig case.

Look - Into it and say - No.

See, this is where I get frustrated and passionate.

Okay.

There is nothing but lies coming from the Attorney General.

And it gets repeated by the media.

It gets repeated by social media.

And headlines rule the day.

You don't read the article, you read the headlines.

And then so everybody believes something that's not true.

This was a very simple basic investigation.

How do you have 611,000 ballots in 656,000 votes?

Nobody knew.

So it's okay.

We went to a judge and said, the only way we're gonna know if there's fraud, how many ballots are there?

We need to count the ballots, not count.

The votes not re overturn an election.

How many ballots?

And my very first press conference, I said, I want the number to be exact.

I want to say there are 656,000 ballots, the same number of yes and no votes.

Now all you people that think they're a fraud, it's not fraud.

Stop.

We're doing everything we can to make good elections, safe elections, and real elections.

But if it's not, if it's really 611,000 like the registrar says it is, then we have a massive problem, don't we?

And so the judge agreed.

We got the ballots to count them, and the Attorney General stopped it with court cases.

And it has nothing to do with whether or not it's legal or not.

He absolutely knows it's legal for me to do this.

I am tasked with investigating crime.

End of story.

He is asserting that he has authority over me and he can say that I cannot investigate crime.

And he's absolutely wrong.

So that's why we're in the court system.

Yeah.

Ask.

It has nothing to do with the case.

Can I ask the judge, - Judge Jake Keel signed off on this warrant.

He supported, you know, you before he became a judge.

I know he, he runs in similar same circles.

- He's an amazing prosecutor.

- How did he end up the warrant end up before him?

Specifically?

- Random.

- Really?

- We have judges of the day every single day.

There are judges of the day and they rotate all of the time.

Every single day they rotate.

And when you have one, one time, you, when you go back for another one, it might be a completely different judge on the same case, because our county rotates every single day, it is luck of the draw Random.

There is no picking of judges.

- Yeah.

Do you think that voters should have faith in our elections?

- They should.

And how do they have faith in the elections when the Attorney General is trying to stop?

I hear you.

The investigation to prove it.

- You are running for governor.

You talk about cutting taxes and spending and, and paying for it by cutting fraud, waste, and abuse.

I'm curious if there's like one or two specific areas that you would point to as where you would like, what's the fraud you're talking about?

- We know you, we absolutely know that there are billions of dollars in fraud per year in homeless.

But gimme some specifics.

Homelessness.

Homelessness.

Okay, you guys, why, why is, why is no money helping the homeless?

We have $25 billion that they can't account for.

They have no idea where it went.

But if you actually go, go to Skid Row, skid row is the, is the, is ground zero of the homeless failure.

Because not only are they getting state money, they're getting $2 billion per year minimum from Los Angeles.

All you have to do is go there and see that none of that money makes it to the people that are on the streets.

There are tons of millionaires and they're not billionaires, but there are tons of mega millionaires out there now.

There are tons of people with big expensive yachts and big expensive houses, but none of that money got down to the people that actually need it to help them.

It is complete fraud.

It is complete embezzlement and fraud in nonprofits and NGOs that are stealing all the money for administrative fees because the legislator made it, they made it legal for them to do that.

And none of that money is getting, it's a, it's an industrial complex created by our state government to launder tax money.

And then those people that are getting the money, they're putting that money back in the campaign coffers of the people that keep that money funding that has to stop and it's gonna stop on day one.

And it's not just that we're learning now of the medical fraud of the, of the school daycare fraud.

This state is ripe with fraud because the state doesn't care where that money goes because it's not theirs.

Legislators don't care.

It's not their money.

Just give, take more money from the rest of the state.

Give it over to here.

Their answer is more money.

We cannot, Newsom's response to homelessness is, he's so great because he gave more money than any other person in history to the homeless.

Well, the amount of money means absolutely nothing.

I'm going to measure homeless by less tents on our sidewalks.

Mm.

That's how you judge whether or not you're doing something right.

Not by how much money you give to your friends.

- Yeah.

You know, you're Republican opponent in the race.

Steve Hilton has attacked you for in the past, saying you have to follow SB 54.

That's the state sanctuary law.

I know you oppose it, but as sheriff, you're bound by law.

- Imagine that.

- Yeah.

Just tell us how have you handled that?

- How have I handled Steve Hilton?

- No, SB 54.

I mean, I really don't care about lies.

No, I don't wanna talk about It's all lies.

SB 54.

SB 54 has to go.

- Yeah.

- It's making you less safe.

It's making everyone in this state less safe.

- Do you think though, that there is any truth to this idea that if local law enforcement are cooperating, you know, hand in hand with immigration enforcement, that it's harder for you to get them to come forward?

No.

For crimes, you haven't had that.

- Do you know that immigration worked perfectly well up to 2017?

Do you know that people were being deported every single day up until 2017?

Do you know that ICE was never in our neighborhoods?

Never in our businesses never doing any of that up until, until 17.

What happened in 2017, sanctuary state and law enforcement told them, told the governor, told the legislature that this is going to be the result.

And here's the thing.

In my world when it doesn't make sense, that means it was on purpose.

And there's something else they purposely knew that ICE would be in our streets.

And now they're saying it's victimizing our residence and everything else.

Well, they caused it.

Yeah.

Because what should be happening is I should be going into our jails and taking all of those people and deporting them.

Then they wouldn't have to go into our cities and into our communities and into our businesses to find the people that we release from jail.

This is so common sensitive.

So before - SB 54 and Riverside, you were doing that, - The entire state was doing it.

Yeah.

The entire state was, well, some counties, no.

They were not the entire No, they were not.

The entire state was doing it.

Every single sheriff was doing what they should be doing.

And it's releasing criminals in our jail who are in this country illegally over to ice.

Right.

To deport them.

- Do you think though, that you would want your deputies actually in the field, - Deputies have no doing immigration operations and they never were?

- Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I I'm just - Asking your opinion on that.

No, they absolutely never were.

There should never be a local law enforcement officer doing immigration enforcement.

Because here's, and I've repeatedly said this.

Yeah.

This is the, the ultimate reason why we can't, the people come from other countries come from corrupt law enforcement.

So when they come here, we know that we have to build relationships with that community because we have to keep them safe.

Whether they're here visiting here illegally or in this country, legally, our job is to keep people safe.

If they are afraid of law enforcement, they're going to be victimized.

So this is what I cannot have.

I cannot have a 12-year-old little girl being repeatedly raped because she's being threatened with deportation or the deportation of her family by the suspect.

I have to have that little girl very, very confident that when she sees someone in a uniform, she can run to them for help and we are going to help her.

That's how it was before this state made sanctuary state.

Hmm.

That's how law enforcement worked.

And that's how we have to, that's what we have to get back to.

The Democrat mission of sanctuary state did it on purpose to victimize our communities.

- Okay.

I would love to keep talking to you about this, but we are running short on time.

I just have one more policy question and then our fun ender.

There's been since a Roe v. Wade was overturned a lot of sort of tension between states and Louisiana has sent an extradition request to California for a doctor to face charges for allegedly sending a woman abortion pills there as governor.

How would you handle this case?

Would you extradite - The doctor?

- 100%.

- Okay.

- 100%.

If you're gonna break the law, you're gonna suffer a consequence.

I'm so over this love affair with criminals.

I'm so over - What about our shield laws, here, though?

- It wasn't, it wasn't here that he broke the law.

I don't it.

He should have done it in California, not in another state.

You can't, you can't break.

Is is California gonna not prosecute someone that brings a gun from Arizona into California?

Thi this is such a this Hear you.

This is such a silly, hypocritical argument.

And these are the arguments from the Democrat side that never hold water.

If we would have a debate about it, because there is, it is absolutely ridiculous to believe that we're not gonna enforce the law.

He broke the law.

He's going to suffer consequences.

And he has to suffer consequences because where do we draw the law?

Oh, it's a murder.

It was, we would, we would say that that's okay in California, but it's not Okay.

Apparently in Arizona.

So we're just gonna let you be safe.

Here it is.

So that's such a stupid argument.

If you're gonna break the law, you're gonna be held responsible.

California legislature and the progressive left has an absolute unhealthy love affair with criminals.

No one is held responsible anymore.

No one, there is no, there is nothing to stop someone from being a criminal in California because you get rewarded for being a criminal in California.

And it has to end.

Californians are absolutely sick of this.

- All right.

Before we let you go, I have a fun question for the end.

Sure.

If you have someone coming into California who's never been here before, where would you take them to give them a taste of California?

Not necessarily food, but it could be food.

But where would you show them?

- I would show them the Santa Monica Pier after I cleaned the homeless.

Off it.

- Back to your 11-year-old - Absolutely moment.

If you, if you could take them anywhere in California, because California is the most beautiful state in the country.

We have the best beaches, we have the best deserts, we have the best mountains, we have the best farming ag community we have, - We have everything.

- We have everything.

We're the only state that has everything.

You could take someone anywhere.

And the beauty that you see is going to be like no other place in the entire country.

It's the politics that are destroying it.

And you can only have great weather for so long before it's no longer tolerable.

- That is Riverside at County.

Sheriff Chad Bianco, thank you so much for coming in today.

- You are welcome.

- It was a pleasure.

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