[GENTLE ORCHESTRAL FANFARE] - OH, NICE.

THEY'RE FIGHTIN' GOOD IN THIS COLD WATER.

THIS WATER'S ABOUT, WELL, NOT COLD, BUT 68 DEGREES.

- OH, I LOVE THIS.

- AND THEY'RE NOT ALL SLUGGISH YET, LIKE THEY GET IN THE SUMMERTIME, WHEN IT'S 80 DEGREES.

- OOH, LOOK AT THAT BEAUTIFUL FISH.

WE MIGHT BE GETTING READY TO COME HOME.

- ALL RIGHT.

YOU LET ME KNOW.

- ALL RIGHT.

I'M GONNA PLANE HIM IN.

- ALL RIGHT.

GOT IT.

- NICE.

- ALL RIGHT.

LOOKEE THERE.

- BEAUTIFUL.

- OH, BEAUTIFUL.

SPINNERBAIT CAME RIGHT OUT.

THANK YOU, DID YOUR JOB.

- AS IT SHOULD.

- THAT'S A PRETTY ONE RIGHT THERE, NOW.

- NICE ONE.

GOT TWO SPOTS.

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TODAY'S PROGRAM, JOE: CHASING THE TIDE.

- AND THAT'S A VERY APPROPRIATE NAME FOR THE SHOW TODAY.

WE ARE GONNA BE CHASING THE TIDE OUT OF WILMINGTON, FROM THE CAPE FEAR RIVER.

WE ACTUALLY PUT IN IN DOWNTOWN WILMINGTON, RAN OUT TO SOUTHPORT, TO A REALLY, REALLY PRETTY MARSH SETTING.

THE TIDE WAS PERFECT.

STARTED FISHING.

WE'RE FISHING WITH SPINNERBAITS, AND WE'RE FISHING FOR RED DRUM TODAY, A REALLY NICE CLASS OF FISH, FIVE TO EIGHT POUND FISH.

AND WE ACTUALLY FOLLOWED THE TIDE BACK INTO WILMINGTON, TOWARDS WILMINGTON.

WE MADE THREE STOPS ALONG THE WAY.

EACH TIME THE TIDE WAS JUST RIGHT, IN THE GRASS.

IT'S GOT TO BE IN THE GRASS, 'CAUSE YOU'RE FISHING THESE SPINNERBAITS, THROWING INTO THE GRASS AND BRINGING IT BACK OUT, AND THESE FISH ARE HANGING RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE GRASS.

THEY LIKE TO AMBUSH IN THE GRASS.

AND THAT'S--YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A GOOD SETUP AND LOTS OF FUN.

- WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE TACKLE TODAY IN GEAR TIME.

GOOD INFORMATION TODAY.

- TALKING ABOUT THE TACKLE THEY USED.

PRIMARILY ALL SPINNERBAITS, AND STU WILL TALK ABOUT IT.

WE'RE FISHING WITH CAPTAIN STU CAULDER OUT OF WILMINGTON.

THEY USED SPINNING AND CASTING GEAR TODAY AND JUST HAD A LOT OF FUN.

- AND DONNA'S GOT A RECIPE TODAY USING VENISON.

- USING A VENISON RECIPE FROM HER TODAY.

SHE'S CUBING UP THE VENISON AND PREPARING IT IN A STROGANOFF RECIPE, VERY TASTY FROM HER.

- LET'S GO FISHING TODAY ON THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL.

- STU, WE'VE GOT A BEAUTIFUL, CALM MORNING HERE.

IT'S MID-MAY.

I KNOW WE'RE GONNA TARGET SOME REDFISH.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE ON TAP FOR US?

- WELL, TODAY WE'VE GOT A-- IT'S GONNA BE A REALLY NEAT LITTLE SITUATION, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

ONE, WE'RE GONNA FISH SPINNERBAITS.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT OF FUN.

WE'RE GONNA PRESENT 'EM ALONG THE GRASS LINES.

ONCE YOU PUT THE BAIT IN THE GRASS, USUALLY THE FIRST FIVE FEET OFF THE BANK IS WHERE THE STRIKE'S GONNA OCCUR.

SO WE'RE GONNA STAY REAL TIGHT TO THE GRASS, WORK 'EM REALLY QUICK, TRY TO COVER A BUNCH OF GROUND, BUT ALSO TODAY, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS, WE'RE GONNA CHASE THE TIDE ALL THE WAY UP THE RIVER.

SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS, WE'LL HAVE A HIGHER TIDE AT THE LOWER PART OF THE RIVER.

AS SOON AS IT STARTS TO FALL, WE'RE GONNA SHOOT UPRIVER A MILE OR TWO, CATCH UP TO THE TIDE.

AND THEN WHEN IT STARTS TO DROP OUT UP THERE, WE'RE GONNA JUMP UP ANOTHER MILE AND JUST KEEP JUMPING ALL THE WAY UP THE RIVER, CHASING THIS TIDE UP THE RIVER SO WE GET THE PERFECT TIDE TO FISH ALL THE WAY UP THE ENTIRE RIVER TODAY.

- THAT'S GONNA BE FUN.

- YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE FUN, 'CAUSE WE'RE DOWN HERE-- SOUTHPORT, BASICALLY-- AND WE'RE GONNA END UP IN DOWNTOWN WILMINGTON TODAY.

- OKAY.

- SO IT'LL BE A LOT OF FUN.

- SOUNDS LIKE IT.

- AND WE'LL GET US ALL RIGGED UP, THROW US A LITTLE SPINNERBAIT ON, AND WE'LL GET OUT THERE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TODAY.

- ALL RIGHT.

- NOW, TARA, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IS, YOU'RE GONNA BE TARGETING THESE GRASS LINES.

SO I WANT YOU TO PUT THE BAIT IN THE GRASS.

- OKAY.

- OKAY?

GO AHEAD AND THROW IT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE FEET INTO THE GRASS.

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT YOU LANDING THE BAIT RIGHT ON THE EDGE, 'CAUSE YOU MIGHT HIT 'EM RIGHT ON THE HEAD AND SPOOK 'EM OUT OF THERE, OKAY?

SO FEEL FREE TO PUT IT IN THERE.

IT MAY GET HUNG UP, BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT.

THEY'RE FAIRLY WEED-LESS.

SO DON'T BE AFRAID TO JUST PUT IT IN THE GRASS.

IF YOU DO HAPPEN TO KIND OF GET SNAGGED, DON'T BOW THE ROD OVER, 'CAUSE IT MIGHT COME FIRING BACK AT YOU.

JUST KIND OF REEL DOWN AND, IN YOUR CASE, JUST PALM THE SPOOL.

POINT AT IT, TAKE UP ALL YOUR SLACK, AND JUST PULL YOUR ARMS IN, AND TYPICALLY IT'LL KIND OF WEASEL ITS WAY THROUGH, AND THEN IT'LL JUST KIND OF FALL RIGHT ON THE EDGE, AND WHEN IT DOES, JUST KEEP YOUR ROD TIP AT ABOUT A 45 AND JUST A SLOW CRANK, AND USUALLY, THE FIRST 5 FEET, BOOM.

USUALLY, AS SOON AS IT COMES OUT OF THAT GRASS, IT'S ON.

- OKAY.

- OKAY?

- I'M READY.

- ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GET IT IN THERE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

- I THINK I SEE FISH.

- THERE'S A LOT OF MOVEMENT RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF US.

THERE HE IS, TARA.

GOT HIM.

- I'M GOING TO PUT MY ROD DOWN.

- OKAY.

- MAN, HE THUMPED IT.

OH, YEAH.

IT'S A PRETTY ONE TOO.

NICE ONE HERE.

- ALL RIGHT, STU, ARE WE READY?

WHAT DO I NEED TO GRAB?

ANYTHING?

- UM... MIGHT HAVE TO GRAB THE BOGA-GRIP, ACTUALLY.

- OKAY.

OH, I SEE IT.

- HE'S A DECENT LITTLE FISH THERE.

- AH, HE DOESN'T WANT TO.

COME ON, BOY.

WE'RE THE GOOD GUYS.

I'M GONNA LET YOU GO.

- [laughing] - PULL HIM OUT THIS WAY.

TRY TO GET HIM OUT HERE SO WE DON'T SPOOK THE REST OF 'EM OFF THE BANK, MAYBE.

THERE WE GO.

COME ON, BIG FELLA.

HOW BIG HAVE WE GOT?

OH, NICE ONE.

- THAT'S THE THING ABOUT THESE FISH.

WOW, HE'S PRETTY.

- HE'S A PRETTY LITTLE GUY.

PRETTY SHOT RIGHT THERE.

OH.

- AM I GONNA BOGA HIS MOUTH, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO JUST GET MY HAND UP UNDER HIM?

- IT LOOKS LIKE I GOT HIM PRETTY GOOD.

- YEAH.

- IT'S TOTALLY UP TO YOU.

HOWEVER YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE LANDING.

IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT HE'S READY.

- HE'S READY?

- IF YOU WANT TO STEP DOWN INTO THE-- STEP DOWN RIGHT THERE.

- YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

- THAT MIGHT KEEP YOU FROM LEANING OVER TOO FAR.

AND YOU GOT 20-POUND LEADER ON THERE, SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET AHOLD OF HIM.

ALL RIGHT.

- HERE WE GO.

- NICE JOB.

- VERY NICE JOB.

- ALL RIGHT.

- VERY NICE JOB.

- LET ME GRAB THE PLIERS.

- OKAY.

- WE'LL POP THAT RIGHT OUT OF HIS MOUTH THERE.

- SOUNDS GOOD.

- WE'LL LAY THAT RIGHT THERE.

ALL RIGHT, BOY, YOU GO BACK AND GET NICE AND BIG AND MAKE PLENTY-- - I LOVE THE RELEASE ON THESE GUYS.

- I KNOW.

- JUST HOLD THEIR TAIL, AND WHEN THEY'RE READY... - MM-HMM.

- THEY LET YOU KNOW.

- GO BACK AND MAKE PLENTY OF LITTLE BABIES.

THERE YOU GO, BIG MAN.

- THERE IT GOES.

- ALL RIGHT.

- NICE JOB, STU.

- ALL RIGHT.

FIRST ONE OF THE MORNING.

- I KNOW.

- NOW WE GOT TO GET US ANOTHER ONE.

- I'M READY.

- IT'S YOUR TURN.

- WHOO, I'M GONNA LET HIM... - I LOVE IT.

- ME TOO.

THIS IS FUN.

OKAY, I'M GONNA HAVE TO TIGHTEN DOWN ON THIS A LITTLE BIT.

- DO YOUR THING.

- AND YOU SAID WE GOT 20 POUND?

- YEAH, 20 POUND LEADER.

IF ANYTHING, JUST LIFT YOUR ROD TIP UP, BECAUSE-- KEEP YOUR LINE HIGH IN THE WATER, 'CAUSE THERE ARE OYSTERS OVER THERE... - OH, OKAY.

- AND I DON'T WANT HIM TO BE ABLE TO GET YOUR NOSE INTO THOSE OYSTERS.

ALL RIGHT, LET ME GET MY ROD DOWN OUT OF THE WAY.

ALL RIGHT.

- I'M GONNA STEP TO THE FRONT OF THE BOAT A LITTLE.

- OH, NICE.

THEY'RE FIGHTIN' GOOD IN THIS COLD WATER.

THIS WATER'S ABOUT, WELL, NOT COLD, BUT 68 DEGREES.

- OH, I LOVE THIS.

- AND THEY'RE NOT ALL SLUGGISH YET, LIKE THEY GET IN THE SUMMERTIME, WHEN IT'S 80 DEGREES.

- OOH, LOOK AT THAT BEAUTIFUL FISH.

WE MIGHT BE GETTING READY TO COME HOME.

- ALL RIGHT.

YOU LET ME KNOW.

- ALL RIGHT.

I'M GONNA PLANE HIM IN.

- ALL RIGHT.

GOT IT.

- NICE.

- ALL RIGHT.

LOOKEE THERE.

- BEAUTIFUL.

- OH, BEAUTIFUL.

SPINNERBAIT CAME RIGHT OUT.

THANK YOU, DID YOUR JOB.

- AS IT SHOULD.

- THAT'S A PRETTY ONE RIGHT THERE, NOW.

- NICE ONE.

GOT TWO SPOTS ON THIS SIDE.

- AND GOT HIM ONE ON THAT SIDE.

- I LOVE THOSE BLUE TAILS.

I LOVE THOSE TAILS IN THE SUNSHINE.

- THAT'S A PRETTY ONE.

LET'S SEE WHAT THIS FISH WEIGHS HERE, SINCE WE GOT IT.

6 POUNDS.

NICE JOB.

- ALL RIGHT, SO I'M IN THE LEAD.

- YOU WANT TO RELEASE HIM SINCE YOU CAUGHT HIM?

- I WOULD LOVE TO.

- ALL RIGHT.

- HERE, I'LL TRADE YOU.

- ALL RIGHT, TRADE ME OUT HERE.

- TAKE THAT FISH, AND WE'LL STEP DOWN HERE.

GET THIS GUY BACK IN THE WATER.

- ALL RIGHT.

OH, BEAUTIFUL.

- LET'S SEE.

I WANT TO GET HIS TAIL JUST RIGHT.

HE'S A LITTLE SLICK.

- GOOD JOB.

- JUST LET HIM-- WHOO, READY TO GO.

- OH, HE WAS READY TO GO.

- AWESOME.

- NICE WORK.

- THANKS, STU.

- GREAT JOB.

- THANK YOU.

- ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GET 'EM ALL JUICED UP, AND WE'LL GO FOR ANOTHER ONE.

HOW ABOUT THAT?

- OKAY, SOUNDS GOOD.

I LIKE THIS ROD.

I'LL KEEP IT.

- WELL, WE MADE OUR LITTLE JUMP UPRIVER.

WE'VE SAVED PROBABLY ABOUT 30 MINUTES.

WE'VE GAINED ON OUR TIDE.

MAYBE EVEN 45 MINUTES.

WE'VE COME ABOUT A MILE, MILE AND A HALF.

SAME SITUATION.

WORK THE GRASS BANKS.

WE'RE GONNA REALLY START AROUND THAT POINT RIGHT THERE.

BUT WE'RE GONNA WORK RIGHT UP THIS BANK.

SPINNERBAITS.

PUT IT IN THE GRASS.

BRING 'EM OUT, AND WAIT FOR 'EM TO HAMMER IT.

- GET 'EM.

- ALL RIGHT?

- LET'S GO.

- ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO.

THERE HE IS, TARA.

- GOT HIM.

- YEAH.

- LET ME GET MY LINE IN.

- THAT'S A NICE ONE.

OH, HE'S UP IN THE GRASS.

I WANT TO GET HIM OUT OF THERE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO POP HIM OFF OR ANYTHING.

'CAUSE I BET THERE'S SOME MORE ALONG THAT GRASS LINE.

- LET'S SEE, WHERE'D OUR BOGA GO?

- I HUNG IT ON THE BACK OF THE LEANING POST.

- OKAY.

- AND THE PLIERS ARE ON THE LEANING POST TOO.

YEAH, HE'S ON.

- LOOK AT THE COLORS.

- LOOK AT THAT BLUE.

YOU CAN SEE THE BLUE TAIL FROM HERE, AND HE'S 30 FEET OFF THE SIDE OF THE BOAT.

LOOK AT THAT.

- I'M SEEING A LOT OF RED IN THAT FISH TOO.

- LOOK AT THEM FINS.

OH, HE'S BEAUTIFUL.

THIS ONE'S GOT A SET OF SHOULDERS ON HIM RIGHT HERE, TARA.

YOU MAY-- THIS ONE HERE, HE'S A GOOD ONE.

COME ON, BIG FELLA.

- YOU KNOW, IF I'M THE ONE PICKING IT UP, I PREFER YOU LET HIM GET IT OUT OF HIM.

- I'M TRYING TO LET HIM GET IT OUT THERE FOR YOU SO HE DOESN'T DO IT IN YOUR HANDS.

I DON'T THINK I HAVE MUCH CHOICE.

LOOK AT HIM.

- IT'S AWESOME TO WATCH THEM RUN.

I MEAN, OH, LOOK AT THAT TAIL COME UP.

- IF I CAN JUST TURN HIM AROUND.

THERE HE GOES.

OH, DON'T GO AROUND THAT POLE.

THERE HE IS.

THERE WE GO.

OH, YEAH.

THIS IS A GOOD ONE HERE.

- IT MUST BE.

- THERE WE GO.

- BEAUTIFUL.

- COME ON, BIG FELLA.

OH!

- YOU TELL ME.

I DON'T-- - I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET HIM.

- THINK THIS IS IT?

- I THINK THIS IS IT.

- HERE WE GO.

- YEAH.

LOOK AT THAT STUD.

HA, HA.

- WHOO, WHAT A FISH.

WHAT A FISH.

WHAT A GORGEOUS FISH.

- ALL RIGHT, LET'S POP THAT OUT.

- BEAUTIFUL.

AWESOME.

- MMM, WORKIN'.

- HA, THAT'S RIGHT.

- LOOK AT THAT BIG OLD THING.

- GOSH, WHAT A NICE FISH.

- COOL.

- AND STILL FULL OF SOME SPUNK TOO.

LOOK AT THIS.

- LOOK AT THAT.

- GOSH, I LOVE IT.

- OH, MY GOODNESS.

LONG, PRETTY.

LET'S SEE WHAT THIS ONE WEIGHS.

- HEALTHY.

- RIGHT AT 8 POUNDS.

I'LL TAKE THAT ANY DAY OF THE WEEK, RIGHT THERE.

- 8-POUND FISH.

THAT'S THE BIGGEST SO FAR.

- MMM.

LONG TOO.

ALL RIGHT, BIG FELLA.

LET'S GET YOU BACK IN HERE.

- AM I IN YOUR WAY HERE?

- NO, YOU'RE PERFECT.

- GOOD GOLLY.

IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE HIM LONG TO GET GOING AGAIN.

- OH, I CAN FEEL HIM ALREADY TRYING TO GO.

COME ON, BUDDY.

I'M GONNA LET YOU GO WHEN YOUR READY.

- WAKE UP NOW.

- THAT'S RIGHT.

- HERE WE GO.

- THERE HE GOES.

- HOPE TO SEE HIM AGAIN.

- ALL RIGHT.

- NICE JOB.

- EXCELLENT.

WHOO, RIGHT.

- GOT HIM.

- RIGHT ON.

GOOD.

I HAD TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE DIFFERENT OUTFIT, 'CAUSE YOU GOT A LITTLE MORE DISTANCE ON THIS ONE.

- I WILL HAVE TO GET HIM AROUND THIS.

- HE'LL COME AROUND.

BUT I HAD TO GOT YOU A LITTLE LONGER ROD.

GOT YOU A 7'6" ON THIS ONE.

- NICE.

- 'CAUSE WE HAD A LITTLE FURTHER TO THROW THIS TIME.

- RIGHT.

- OKAY, NOW GET THAT ROD UP FOR ME, SO THAT LINE WILL STAY UP OUT OF THE GRASS A LITTLE BIT.

BUT IT'S THE SAME THING.

FISH BACK IN THESE LITTLE GRASSY POCKETS, YOU KNOW?

LOOK AT HIM.

OH, THAT'S A NICE ONE.

LET ME GET THE BOGA-GRIP.

THAT'S A PRETTY FISH THERE.

- OH, YEAH.

- OH, LOOK AT THAT.

- HE'S PRETTY IN THIS GRASS.

- LOOK AT HIM.

AND BRING HIM ON THIS SIDE OVER HERE.

- ALL RIGHT.

- SINCE HE'S ALREADY ON THIS SIDE OF THE BOAT.

LOOK AT HIM IN THAT GRASS.

LOOK AT HIM-- - OH, HE'S SO PRETTY.

I'M GONNA COME OVER.

- YOU STAND RIGHT THERE AND JUST FIGHT HIM AND TAKE IT EASY ON HIM.

NOW, WATCH THAT TROLLING MOTOR, NOW.

YOU GOT TO PUT IT ON HIM.

THERE YOU GO.

GOOD JOB.

GOOD JOB.

ALL RIGHT.

- THIS WAY, BUDDY.

- COME ON, BIG MAN.

LEAVE ME ABOUT 6 FEET OF LINE.

- ALL RIGHT.

- OH, YEAH.

HE'S NOT DONE YET, IS HE?

- NOT QUITE.

- COME ON.

LOOK AT HOW PRETTY HE IS.

- THERE WE GO.

I'M GONNA BRING HIM IN TO YOU.

I THINK WE'RE READY.

- GOT IT.

COME ON.

- YOU OKAY THERE?

- THERE WE GO.

- GOOD DEAL.

- LOOK AT THAT ONE.

- AWESOME.

- LOOK AT THE COLOR ON THAT FISH.

- WHOO, NICE.

- LOOK AT THE COLOR.

LOOK AT HIS FINS, HOW RED THEY ARE.

- I KNOW, THEY-- - HE IS SO MUCH DARKER.

- THEY LOOK DARKER UP HERE TO ME.

- THEY ARE SO MUCH DARKER.

- DEFINITELY.

AND SO BEAUTIFUL.

ALL RIGHT, BUDDY.

- OKAY, THERE HE GOES.

- THERE HE GOES.

THERE HE GOES.

NICE.

THAT WAS FUN.

- YEAH, GOOD WORK.

- THANK YOU, STU.

- EXCELLENT.

- THAT WAS A LOT OF FUN.

- WELL YOU WANT TO GO UPRIVER AND CATCH OUR TIDE AGAIN?

- I THINK IT'S TIME.

- ALL RIGHT, LET'S RUN UP-- LET'S GO A COUPLE MILES UPRIVER.

WE SHOULD MAKE UP ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF ON OUR TIDE.

- OKAY, PERFECT.

- ALL RIGHT, LET'S ROLL.

- THAT'LL BE GOOD.

- RIGHT WHERE WE THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA BE, IN THE SPRIGS.

OH, YEAH, THAT'S A PRETTY ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

- WOW.

- WELL, THE WIND CAUGHT UP TO US, DIDN'T IT?

- IT CERTAINLY DID.

IT'S KIND OF FUNNY HOW WE'RE MOVING UP THE RIVER... - AND THE WIND'S COMING RIGHT WITH US.

OH, YEAH.

PRETTY FISH.

- NICE.

- NICE.

NICE RED.

SPINNERBAITS ARE SO EASY.

- [laughing] - JUST THROW 'EM OUT AND REEL 'EM IN.

- WEAR HIM DOWN.

- YEAH.

THERE WE GO.

- THERE WE GO.

WHOO, THERE WE GO.

- GOT HIM?

- GOT HIM.

- NICE.

- ANOTHER NICE FISH.

- LOOK AT THAT PRETTY COLOR ON HIM.

- WOW.

- LOOK AT THAT.

- LOOK AT THIS.

JUST A MUCH DARKER FISH.

- ALL RIGHT.

- IT'S CRAZY TO ME HOW WE HAVEN'T COME THAT FAR, BUT IT'S JUST, THE COLORS ON THE FISH ARE SO DIFFERENT.

- THAT'S RIGHT.

WE GET UP IN THIS DARKER WATER UP HERE...

THERE WE GO, PUT THAT OVER THE SIDE.

YOU GET IN THAT DARKER WATER, AND THESE FISH DARKEN RIGHT UP WITH 'EM.

- I LOVE IT.

- THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL, GOLD, COPPER-COLORED FISH.

- JOE, I GUESS IT'S FAIR TO SAY YOU ALL DID A GOOD JOB CHASING THE TIDE THAT DAY.

- WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IN THIS SITUATION.

AS I SAID EARLIER, THESE FISH LIKE TO GET IN THE GRASS AND AMBUSH THE BAITFISH THAT SWIM BY, AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED THE WATER IN THE GRASS TO BE AS SUCCESSFUL AS WE WERE THAT DAY.

YOU CAN CATCH FISH IN OTHER SITUATIONS, BUT STU LIKES TO DO IT THIS WAY.

AND HE HAD EVERYTHING TIMED OUT, WHERE WE NEEDED TO BE.

YEAH, WE WERE MOVING MAYBE 3 OR 4 MILES, AND WE MADE THREE STOPS, AND WE CAUGHT FISH AT EACH STOP, AND IT WAS JUST A DIFFERENT WAY OF DOING IT.

BUT, YET, VERY PRODUCTIVE.

- LET'S TALK ABOUT THE TACKLE THAT WE USED.

LET'S GO TO GEAR TIME.

- STU, WHAT A DAY WE HAD.

WE SET OUT THIS MORNING TO CHASE THE TIDES.

WE DID.

WE STOPPED AT THREE DIFFERENT PLACES, CAUGHT FISH AT EVERY SPOT.

I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER DAY RIGHT NOW.

- IT'S NICE WHEN A PLAN WORKS OUT LIKE THAT.

I'D KIND OF PLANNED ON RUNNING THE TIDE ALL THE WAY UP THE RIVER.

WE'VE PROBABLY COVERED ABOUT 12 MILES-- 10 OR 12 MILES-- UP THIS RIVER.

SO EACH TIME WE BUMPED UP THE RIVER, WE WOULD GAIN ON THE TIDE.

SO WE ALWAYS CAUGHT UP WITH THE TIDE.

AND IT REALLY WORKED OUT WELL, 'CAUSE WE WERE TARGETING REDFISH ALONG THE GRASS LINES, USING SPINNERBAITS, AND IT REALLY WORKED OUT WELL, AND THE BAIT THAT I WAS USING WAS JUST A NICE, BASIC, BETTS SPINNER BLADE HARNESS, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A D.O.A.

HEAD AND A D.O.A.

SHAD TAIL ON THERE, AND YOU WERE USING THE SAME THING.

WE JUST USED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT COLOR.

I WAS USING A BLACK, AND YOU WERE USING A WHITE.

- RIGHT.

- AND I THINK IT ALL WORKED OUT REAL WELL.

MY OUTFIT, THAT I CHOSE TO USE TODAY, WAS A 7'6" BAITCASTER OUTFIT WITH 20-POUND BRAID AND A 20-POUND FLUOROCARBON LEADER, AND YOU WERE USING A LITTLE BIT SHORTER OUTFIT.

- I HAD A 6'6" T.F.O.

MEDIUM HEAVY.

SAME 20-POUND BRAID.

20-POUND FLUORO TIP.

THIS ROD WORKED GREAT FOR ME.

THERE WAS A TIME WHEN I COULDN'T REACH OUT QUITE AS FAR AS I NEEDED TO.

- THAT'S RIGHT, BUT I HAD THAT 7'6" SPINNING ROD READY.

THAT ADDED ANOTHER FOOT TO IT, GAVE YOU THAT EXTRA DISTANCE YOU NEEDED IN THE CAST JUST TO REACH THAT ONE POCKET IN THE BACK.

WE JUST COULDN'T QUITE GET TO 'EM, AND SURE ENOUGH, WE CAUGHT THAT PRETTY FISH OUT OF THERE.

- THAT WAS GREAT.

- OH, YEAH.

IT'S NICE, LIKE I SAID, WHEN IT WORKS OUT.

THE WIND WAS COMING UP ON US, AND IT'S NICE TO PICK THAT FISH UP, RUN UPRIVER, GET OUT OF THE WIND, CATCH ANOTHER FISH OR TWO, RUN UPRIVER AGAIN, AND JUST KEEP WORKING YOUR WAY UP.

- WELL, WE DID IT TODAY.

- YEAH, WE DID.

- WE SET OUT.

WE GOT IT DONE.

IT WAS AN AWESOME DAY.

I APPRECIATE IT.

- ANYTIME.

- LOOK FORWARD TO DOING IT AGAIN SOON.

- HOW ABOUT NEXT WEEK?

- ALL RIGHT, THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

- ALL RIGHT.

- THANKS, STU.

- HOPE YOU CAN USE THAT VALUABLE INFORMATION.

NOW, IF YOU WANT TO CHASE THE TIDE, CALL THE NUMBER THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN.

DONNA'S IN THE KITCHEN.

SHE'S GOT A RECIPE TODAY FOR VENISON STROGANOFF.

- HI, TODAY IN THE KITCHEN, WE'RE MAKING A VENISON STROGANOFF, AND IT SMELLS GREAT IN HERE.

SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.

WE HAVE OUR VENISON ALREADY CUT INTO CUBES.

SO THAT'S READY TO GO, WHICH IS NICE.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT WHEN YOU'RE PROCESSING AND GO AHEAD AND HAVE IT IN CUBES SO YOU'RE READY TO GO WHENEVER YOU WANT TO MAKE DIFFERENT RECIPES, WHICH IS A GREAT IDEA.

WE HAVE OUR MEDIUM HOT BREADER THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING TODAY.

SO THIS IS GONNA GIVE IT SOME NICE FLAVOR, AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT TO ADD.

IT'S ALREADY IN THERE FOR YOU.

THEN WE'RE GONNA TAKE OUR CUBES--OUR VENISON CUBES-- AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO DREDGE THAT INTO OUR BREADER SO THAT IT GETS COATED WELL.

AND THEN, WHILE WE'RE DREDGING THIS, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HEAT UP OUR OIL IN OUR PAN.

AND WE'RE GONNA BE-- HAVE SAUTEED ALREADY SOME ONIONS AND SOME BACON AND SOME MUSHROOMS IN THERE.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE THOSE OUT.

THEN WE'RE GONNA ADD OUR VENISON.

AND WE'RE GONNA SAUTE THAT UNTIL IT IS COOKED THROUGHOUT AND WE'RE READY TO GO.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA ADD IT ALL BACK INTO OUR PAN.

SO THAT'S WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW.

SO I HAVE MY VENISON ALREADY COOKED, MY ONIONS SAUTEED, AND MY MUSHROOMS.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THESE NICE, LITTLE, CRUNCHY PIECES HERE ON THE BOTTOM OF OUR PAN.

AND WE'RE GONNA DEGLAZE OUR PAN, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'RE GONNA POUR SOME LIQUID INTO OUR PAN, AND IT'S GONNA BUBBLE UP, AND WE'RE GONNA SCRAPE OFF ALL THE CRUNCHIES-- WHICH IS ALL THE GREAT FLAVOR-- ON THE BOTTOM OF OUR PAN.

SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE SOME BEEF STOCK, AND WE'RE JUST GONNA ADD THAT TO OUR PAN, AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO ADD IN SOME WORCESTERSHIRE SAUCE.

AND THEN WE'RE JUST GONNA GIVE THAT A STIR, AND WE'RE GONNA--IT'LL SOFTEN UP ALL THE YUM CRUNCHIES HERE ON THE BOTTOM OF OUR PAN, AND IT'S GONNA ADD A LOT OF FLAVOR TO THE SAUCE FOR US.

SO WE'RE GONNA SCRAPE THE PAN, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ADD IN 8 OUNCES OF SOUR CREAM INTO OUR MIXTURE, WHICH IS GONNA ADD A NICE CREAMINESS TO THIS AND A NICE-- KIND OF A TANGY FLAVOR, WHICH IS NICE AS WELL.

SO THEN WE'RE JUST GONNA MIX THAT TOGETHER.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA LET THIS SIMMER FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES.

IT'LL START TO BUBBLE, AND IT'LL START TO THICKEN JUST SLIGHTLY.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA SERVE THIS OVER SOME EGG NOODLES.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA TOP IT WITH A LITTLE EXTRA PARSLEY, TO ADD SOME GREAT COLOR TO IT, AND MAYBE A LITTLE EXTRA CHOPPED BACON.

SO WE'RE JUST GONNA LET THAT SIMMER.

AND THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE WHEN WE'RE GONNA SERVE IT.

WE HAVE THESE GREAT, WIDE EGG NOODLES THAT WE'VE MADE.

YOU CAN ALSO SERVE IT OVER RICE, IF YOU LIKE.

BUT I LIKE MINE WITH EGG NOODLES, THEN WE'RE GOING TO JUST TOP OUR VENISON ON TOP OF OUR EGG NOODLES, SPRINKLE A LITTLE EXTRA PARSLEY AND SOME BACON TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF FLAVOR AND A LITTLE BIT OF COLOR TO IT.

SO I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE VENISON STROGANOFF, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU NEXT TIME HERE ON SIMPLE COOKING.

- THANKS, DONNA, FOR ANOTHER OUTSTANDING RECIPE.

JOE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SPINNERBAITS.

- YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD LURE TO USE.

DRUM LIKE 'EM.

I MEAN, THEY ARE VERY EFFECTIVE.

STU'S BEEN USING 'EM WITH A LOT OF SUCCESS.

BUT JUST FISHING LIKE THAT-- FISHING THE TIDE-- WAS THE FIRST TIME I'VE DONE THAT, ACTUALLY FOLLOWING THAT PROCEDURE, WHERE WE JUST, YOU KNOW, STARTED DOWNRIVER, AND THEN WORKING UP THE RIVER AS THE TIDE WAS GETTING TO AREAS IN THE MARSH BEFORE IT STARTED DROPPING OUT.

ANYBODY THAT FISHES THE CAPE FEAR KNOWS IT'S A PRETTY DRAMATIC CHANGE ON THAT RIVER, AS FAR AS THE TIDE, UP AND DOWN.

BUT HE HAD WORKED ON IT, FIGURED IT OUT, AND IF YOU'VE NEVER TRIED THAT, GIVE HIM A TRY.

- AND OUR RECIPES.

JOE, WHAT ABOUT THIS COOKBOOK OF OURS THIS YEAR?

- YEAH, IT'S BEEN REAL POPULAR SO FAR.

WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT IT THROUGH THE YEARS, AND DONNA'S JUST DONE A GREAT JOB THROUGH THE YEARS, AND AGAIN, BY DEMAND FROM OUR AUDIENCE, WE PUT IT TOGETHER.

OF COURSE, YOUR WIFE, MARGIE, HAS GOT SOME REALLY GOOD RECIPES IN THERE HERSELF, AND THAT'S AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE, SO GIVE US A SHOUT.

- FOLKS, IF WE'VE COOKED IT, IT'S PROBABLY IN THIS BOOK.

- THAT'S RIGHT.

- FOR JOE ALBEA, I'M JOHN MOORE.

THANKS FOR JOINING US TODAY ON THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL.

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