CHICAGO TONIGHT: BLACK VOICES IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY FIFTH THIRD BANK AND BY THE SUPPORT OF THESE DONORS.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO CHICAGO TONIGHT: BLACK VOICES.

I AM BRANDIS FREEMAN.

INCORPORATED YOU FOR SHARING PART OF THE WEEKEND WITH US.

ON THE SHOW TONIGHT ONE-ON-ONE WITH COOK COUNTY STATE ATTORNEY KIM FOXX P PLUS RELATIVES OF LAQUAN McDONALD SPEAK OUT AFTER THE OFFICER CONVICTED OF HIS DEATH GETS OUT OF PRISON AFTER THREE YEARS.

>>> IN HONOR OF LOCKE HISTORY MONTH WE TALK ABOUT BLACK CHICAGOANS THAT HAVE LEFT AN IMPACT ON THE CITY.

>> THIS WAS MORE THAN A GAME ITS HISTORY.

>> A 1963 YOU WILL LOYOLA RAMBLERS COMPETED IN CHANGE.

NO NEW DOCUMENTARY REPORTS WHAT THEY EXPERIENCED BEING BLACK AND IN THE 60S.

PLUS WE SIT DOWN WITH KIM FOXX P THE CONTROVERSIAL RELEASE OF FORMER OFFICER JASON VAN DYCK TO HER PRESSURE ON WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS AND STATE ATTORNEY KIM FOXX JOINS US NOW.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> OF COURSE, INCORPORATED YOU FOR HAVING ME.

WE KNOW ALL WEEK THAT CHICAGO OFFICER JASON VAN DYCK WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON AFTER SERVING 39 MONTH.

THURSDAY HE TWEETED "THE SENTENCE THAT WAS PUT DOWN BY DECENT VAN DYCK DOES NOT BEAT THE CRIME.IF THERE'S AN ABILITY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL THEN BY ALL MEANS, SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE".

IF IS A SENSE OF WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT: DO YOU THINK HE SHOULD FACE FEDERAL CHARGES FOR VIOLATING LOOK JUAN McDONALD CIVIL RIGHTS?

>> I THINK THE THREE AND HALF YEARS THAT JASON VAN DYCK SERVED IN PRISON DID NOT MEET THE CONVICTION THAT HE HAD.

NOT ONLY IS HE CONVICTED OF THE MURDERS OF LOOK JUAN McDONALD BUT HE HAS 16 COUNTS OF AGGRAVATED BATTERY WHICH CARRIES SIX YEARS EACH.

AND SO CERTAINLY I DON'T BELIEVE JUSTICE WAS SERVED AND THE SENTENCE HE RECEIVED.

I CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT AT LEAST A REVIEW OF FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES ARE APPROPRIATE AND AN ANNOUNCEMENT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER SHOULD BE COMING FORTH.

>> EARLIER THIS WEEK YOUR OFFICE TOSSED OUT MORE CONVICTIONS AGAINST DISGRACED CHICAGO POLICE OFFICER RONALD WATTS.

HE EXTORTED MONEY FROM DRUG DEALERS AND WAS ACCUSED OF PLANTING EVIDENCE, FABRICATING CHARGES AND SO FAR YOUR OFFICE DISMISSED 134 CONVICTIONS TIED TO WATTS SINCE 2015 AND MORE WILL BE VINDICATED IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

WHY HAS YOUR OFFICE MADE THESE A PRIORITY?

>> THIS IS A MATTER OF LOOKING IN THE PAST AND RIGHTING A WRONG SO WE CAN DO THE WORK WE NEED TO DO NOW TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE.

I THINK WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY CRIME AND VIOLENCE MANY OF THEM HAVE A VERY LOW THRESHOLD OF TRUST WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.

LARGELY BECAUSE ACTS LIKE THIS.

PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE, DON'T WANT TO HELP US BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THE SYSTEM BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS BY CORRUPT OFFICERS AND BY WATTS IS THERE.

IN ORDER TO REBUILD OUR TRUST WE HAVE TO ADMIT MISTAKES AND RIGHT THOSE WRONGS SO THAT WE CAN SHOW THAT WE ARE PARTNERS IN THIS WORK AND THAT NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.

EVEN THOSE CONVICTIONS THAT GO BACK 20 YEARS THAT WERE WRONGFULLY GAINED WILL BE RIGHTED.

>> ONCE THOSE ADDITIONAL CASES ARE DISMISSED ARE THERE MORE CASES TO BE REVIEWED?

>> THERE IS AN ONGOING REVIEW AS THE EXONERATION PROJECT WILL BRING US CASES, WE WILL DO AN INDIVIDUAL REVIEW OF THOSE CASES.

IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THERE ARE MORE CASES COMING.

THIS IS THE LATEST BATCH WE HAVE HAD.

I UNDERSTAND LOOKING AT THESE CASES FOR YEARS TO COME.

>> IS A POSSIBLE ANY OFFICERS SERVED UNDER WATTS AND CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT THERE WILL BE ANY CHARGES FOR THEM?

>> CERTAINLY AT THIS POINT HAVE TO LOOK AT THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS AS TO WHEN THIS HAPPENED.

MANY OF THESE CASES HAPPENED A DECADE OR SO AGO AND OUR ABILITY TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE IS LIMITED.

WHAT WE CAN DO IS SAY THAT WERE NOT GOING TO CALL THEM AS POLICE OFFICERS IN CASES WHERE PENDING BECAUSE THEIR CREDIBILITY HAS BEEN DAMAGED.

>> SWITCHING OVER TO CHRIST OFFICIALLY IN CHICAGO THERE WERE 142 SHOOTING AND HOMICIDES LAST MONTH ACCORDING TO DATA FROM THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE ENDED 2021 WITH NEARLY 800 HOMICIDES.

THERE'S CRITICISM OF YOUR OFFICE TO NOT BEING TOUGH ON CRIME THAT YOU RESPOND TO THOSE CRITICISMS?

>> CERTAINLY REMIND FOLKS THAT OUR OFFICE GETS INVOLVED ONCE AN ARREST IS MADE AND SOMEONE IS PRESENTED TO US FOR PROSECUTION.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT NUMBER 1, PEOPLE ARE GETTING ARRESTED AND BROUGHT TO US FOR CHARGES AND WE HAVE BROUGHT CHARGES WHERE APPROPRIATE.

ONE THING I AM MOST PROUD OF IS WE PUT EVERY BIT OF DATA THAT WE DO ON HER WEBSITE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHAT OUR APPROVAL RATE IS FOR CASES THAT ARE BROUGHT TO US.

FOR EXAMPLE, FOR CARJACKINGS WHICH MANY OF US ARE RIGHT LEE AFRAID OF, WE HAVE IN APPROVAL RATE OF CHARGES OF OVER 90 PERCENT.

WHEN WE LOOK AT SHOOTINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT TO US WE CAN TRACK OUR APPROVAL RATING.

I THINK WE HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN.

IT'S ALL HANDS ON DECK AND HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE WORK WE ARE DOING AND THIS IS A MATTER OF PUTTING A RESOURCES WHERE THEY ARE MOST APPROPRIATE AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS DOING THAT.

>> THERE IS DISCUSSION AMONG LEADERSHIP OF RELEASING PEOPLE OF VIOLENT CRIMES ON ELECTRONIC MONITORING.

IT'S A POINT OF CONTENTION.

MAYOR LIGHTFOOT HAS ASKED THE COURT TO PUT A MORATORIUM ON THAT AND OF COURSE THE CHIEF JUDGE REJECTED THAT IDEA.

WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THAT WHOLE DEBATE?

>> CERTAINLY I THINK WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYBODY THAT IS RELEASED PRETRIAL HAS A PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE BUT THEY ARE A THREAT OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

IF THEY ARE OUT ON BOND OR ELECTRONIC MONITORING WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE MONITORING THAT.

I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE OUT ON BOND OR ON SOME OTHER CONVICTION WHO ARE NOT PICKING UP NEW OFFENSES AND NOT CAUSING HARM TO THE COMMUNITY AND SO I DON'T WANT US TO DISTORT THOSE INSTANCES WHEN THEY OCCUR THAT THEY ACCOUNT FOR THE WHOLE.

WE HAVE TO BE TRANSPARENT, WE HAVE TO HAVE DATA THAT IS ACCURATE AND IF THERE ARE TWEAKS WE NEED TO MAKE YOU CAN MAKE THEM.

PART OF THIS DEBATE A LOT OF IT HAS BEEN RIDDLED WITH INFORMATION THAT HAS SIMPLY NOT BEEN ACCURATE.

>> YOU, MAYOR LIGHTFOOT AND SUPERINTENDENT BROWN A RARE APPEARANCE TOGETHER RECENTLY AT A NEWS CONFERENCE AND CHARGES WITH THE SHOOTING DEATH OF MELISSA ORTEGA IN THE LITTLE VILLAGE PEERED WHY WAS IT GOOD FOR YOU TO APPEAR UNITED?

>> IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO THE PEOPLE WE SERVE TO KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER BEHIND THE SCENES AND WERE YOU ALL TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT, THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

IT IS ALL HANDS ON DECK.

WE RECOGNIZE AND ALL HAVE THE SAME MISSION AND IF PEOPLE DON'T FEEL SAFE COMING OUT OF THEIR HOMES WE SUFFER FOR THAT.

THERE'S A REAL INTENTIONALITY AMONG ALL OF US TO SHOW THAT DISPLAY OF UNITY.

WE MIGHT ALWAYS AGREE BUT WE HAVE A COMMON PURPOSE WHICH IS KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE AND WE ALL IT TO THE PUBLIC TO SHOW AND GIVE THEM CONFIDENCE THAT WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER.

>> HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE YOUR WORKING RELATIONSHIP TO YOUR OFFICE AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND THE CPD FOR THAT MATTER.

>> WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER IN EARNEST.

WE HAVE BEEN HAVING REGULAR MEETINGS, A REGULAR CADENCE OF MEETINGS, EXCHANGING IDEAS AND TALKING ABOUT WAYS TO COLLABORATE ON TRAINING TO MAKE SURE WE ARE BUILDING THE STRONGEST CASE POSSIBLE.

WHEN ISSUES ARISE THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE MAYOR DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE CAN UP THE PHONE AND GIVING US A CALL.

I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE A HEALTHY WORKING RELATIONSHIP GUIDED BY THE MUTUAL AGREEMENT THAT THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC SAFETY FOR THE PEOPLE OF CHICAGO AND COOK COUNTY IS PARAMOUNT.

>> OVER THE SUMMER YOUR OFFICE WAS DEALING WITH WHAT WAS DESCRIBED AS A WHOPPING BACKLOG OF CASES.

WHERE ARE YOU NOW AND OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS DUE TO THE PANDEMIC BUT WHERE ARE YOU NOW AS FAR AS CATCHING UP ON ALL OF THIS?

>> I AM PROUD OF THE LAWYERS AND ADMINISTRATORS IN OUR OFFICE WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY BROUGHT THE PANDEMIC.

WITH US SLOWING DOWN IT MEANS THE ASSISTANCE WAS NOT WORKING HARD AND WE BEEN ABLE TO CHIP AWAY AT THE BACK LOG AND CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT MORE WORK TO DO.

THE NUMBERS WE WERE ABLE TO RESOLVE THE NUMBER OF CASES WE WERE ABLE TO RESOLVE AND THE NUMBER OF CONVICTIONS WE WERE ABLE TO GATHER WEIRD WHERE WE WERE IN TWEEN 19 BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

AGAIN I CANNOT SPEAK HIGHLY ENOUGH OF THE STAFF OF THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS WELL AS THE CHIEF JUDGE'S OFFICE, THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE FOR COMING TOGETHER TO ENSURE THE WILL TO JUSTICE CONTINUES TO TURN.

>> LATE LAST YEAR YOU BROUGHT IN A NUMBER OF AFA'S.

I IMAGINE THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE WORKLOAD TO HELPING ILLUMINATE THAT WORKLOAD?

>> IT IS CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTE BUT I WOULD SAY OUR OFFICE IS SUFFERING MUCH LIKE MOST OF THE WORKFORCE WITH A GREAT RESIGNATION.

SO WHILE I AM PLEASED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BRING IN 112 NEW ATTORNEYS DURING THE COURSE OF LAST YEAR WE ALSO LOST JUST AS MANY.

THIS PANDEMIC HAS BEEN EXTRAORDINARILY HARD FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DO THIS WORK UNDER THE CONDITIONS OF WORKING FROM HOME WITH CHILDREN, WITH LOSS AND ILLNESS AND IT'S BEEN INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT JUST WHY THE WORK THAT THEY BEEN ABLE TO DO WITH ALL OF THOSE CHALLENGES WITHOUT BEING FULLY STAFFED TO BE ABLE TO GET THE OUTPUT THAT THEY HAVE DONE HAS BEEN TRULY INCREDIBLE.

>> WILL HAVE TO LEAVE THEIR BEST OF LUCK TO YOU IN YOUR STAFF, STATE ATTORNEY KIM FOXX THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AS WE JUST HEARD FROM A POLICE OFFICER JASON VAN DYCK WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON.

HE WAS CONVICTED IN 2018 FOR THE MURDER OF TEENAGER LOOK ON McDONALD.

HE SERVED HALF OF HIS SENTENCE BEHIND BARS.

SOME OF HIS FAMILY, ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE CALLING FOR FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS CHARGES AGAINST HIM INCLUDING McDONALD'S GRANDMOTHER TRACY HUNTER.

WE ASKED FOR HER REACTION OF VAN DYCK'S EARLY RELEASE.

>> IS A HARD FEELING BECAUSE THAT MAN DID NOT SERVE HIS TIME.

HE DID NOT SERVE HIS TIME.

YOU DON'T KNOW THE PAIN THAT I HAVE TO LIVE WITH EVERY DAY NOT SEEING MY GRANDSON, NOT HEARING HIS VOICE OR TALKING TO HIM.

WANT MY VOICE TO BE HEARD I WANT EVERY OTHER MOTHER AND GRANDMOTHER'S VOICE TO BE HEARD THAT THEY DIDN'T GET JUSTICE FOR THEIR GRANDKIDS OR THEIR KIDS.

>> WITH ALL THAT SAID, PASTOR MARVIN HUNTER DOES NOT LEAVE THAT FEDERAL CHARGES OF THE RIGHT ANSWER.

>> THE TIME AND PLACE TO FIGHT THIS MATTER IS IN THE COURT AND IN SPRINGFIELD WHERE THE LAWS THAT GOVERN THAT ARE AT.

I THINK THAT IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FOR US.

LISTEN, IF JASON VAN DYCK GETS 1000 YEARS IT WILL NOT STOP ME AS A BLACK MAN FROM BEING MISTREATED BY POLICE OFFICERS.

THE ONES THAT HAVE BIAS AGAINST ME BECAUSE OF THE COLOR OF MY SKIN.

IN ORDER TO CHANGE THAT WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE LAWS THAT ARE EMBOLDENED TO HIM TO DO THAT.

>> AND MORE ON VAN DYCK'S RELEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE.

>>> UP NEXT THE LOYOLA RAMBLERS FEATURED IN A DOCUMENTARY.

>> DO YOU REMEMBER THAT?

CHICAGO WENT WILD WHEN THE LOYOLA RAMBLERS PLAYED IN THE FINAL FOUR OF THE NCAA TOURNAMENT IN 2018.

IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THE MEN'S BASKETBALL TEAM MADE AT THAT ARE SINCE 1963 WHEN THE RAMBLERS WHEN THE SCHOOLS ONLY CHAMPIONSHIP TITLE AND BROKE RACIAL BARRIERS WHILE DOING SO.

FOR STARTING BLACK LAYERS OF THE 63 RAMBLERS, JERRY HARKNESS, LES HUNTER, RON MILLER AND DICK ROUTE MADE SPORTS HISTORY WHEN THEY PLAYED THE ALL-WHITE MISSISSIPPI STATE ALL DOGS IN THE SECOND ROUND OF THE TOURNAMENT.

MISSISSIPPI STATE WHEN AGAINST THE GOVERNOR'S ORDERS TO NOT CROSS STATE LINES AND PLAY AN INTEGRATED TEAM.

THAT NAME IS NOW KNOWN AS THE GAME OF CHANGE.

THE 63 SEASON WAS GROUNDBREAKING FOR MANY REASON AS SHOWN IN THE NEW DOCK ENTRY THE LOYOLA PROJECT.

>> MY NAME IS LUCAS WILLIAMSON.

I WAS A FRESHMAN IN 2018 WHEN THE RAMBLERS MADE IT TO THE FINAL FOUR GOOD FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 55 YEARS.

WE WERE ALWAYS TOLD HOW THE 63 TEAM MADE HISTORY THAT IT WAS IN THE FORGOT AND DETAILS THAT I FOUND A DEEPER CONNECTION.

THIS IS NOT 200 YEARS AGO THESE ARE OUR FATHERS AND GRANDFATHERS HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS.

>> THIS IS MORE THAN A GAME.

THIS WAS HISTORY.

>> IT'S TIME THE REST OF THE WORLD HEARD THEIR WHOLE STORY ABOUT THOSE WHO CHANGED THE GAME.

BY PLAYING IT THEIR WAY.

>> JOINING US NOW WITH MORE OTHER BASKETBALL TEAM AND FILMMAKING TEAM, TRAN 24 DIRECTOR OF "THE LAYOLA PROJECT".

LUCAS WILLIAMSON THE CURRENT CAPTAIN AND GUARD THE RAMBLERS IS ALSO THE NARRATOR AND COWRITER OF THE FILM AND RON MILLER A STARTING FORWARD FOR THE 1963 LOYOLA MEN'S BASKETBALL PLAYER.

GENTLEMEN, IT IS A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU TO THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

TRAN 24 WHAT WAS IT ABOUT THE 1963 "THE LAYOLA PROJECT" THAT STUCK OUT TO YOU SO MUCH THAT YOU WANTED TO MAKE A FILM ABOUT THEM?

>> FIRST OF ALL BEING A CHICAGOAN I WAS SHOCKED THAT I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW THE STORY.

I'M A SPORTS FAN AND I GREW UP IN CHICAGO AND YET SOMEHOW THIS STORY WAS NEW TO ME AND IT WASN'T UNTIL THE 2018 RAMBLER CINDERELLA RUN TO THE FINAL FOUR THAT THE 63 STORY STARTED TO BE TOLD AGAIN.

AND IT SEEMED TO US THAT NOT ONLY WAS IT A GREAT STORY BUT IT ALSO SEEMED THAT THERE WAS A LOT ABOUT THE STORY THAT HAD NOT BEEN TOLD YET.

THAT'S WHY MY WIFE AND I DECIDED THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PROJECT TO DO.

HE SPENT TWO AND HALF YEARS MAKING IT AND WE CAN'T WAIT TO SHARE IT.

>> RON MILLER THE YOU LOYOLA PROJECT IS BETWEEN THE GAME OF THE RAMBLERS AND THE MISSISSIPPI STATE ALL DOGS BUT THAT'S JUST ONE PART OF THE STORY.

THE LARGER STORY DETAILS THE DISCRIMINATION THAT YOU AND YOUR FELLOW LUCK PLAYERS EXPERIENCED.

TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT BEING A BLACK BASKETBALL PLAYER AT LOYOLA WAS LIKE FOR YOU AT THE TIME.

>> IT WAS A VERY FASCINATING TIME IN THE 60S.

I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT ABOUT THIS.

THERE ARE TWO PHASES THAT SET THE COURSE THAT OVER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE.

THE FIRST WAS THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

WHAT PEOPLE WENT THROUGH IN THE 30S TO GET OUT OF THE DEPRESSION IN THE NEXT PHASE WAS THE 60S.

ALL THE SOCIAL ISSUES THAT HAD BEEN UNDERNEATH THE SERVICES THAT CAME TO A HEAD.

WE HAD VIETNAM, WE HAD MARTIN LUTHER KING AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT AND IT WAS A VERY UNUSUAL TIME.

A VERY EXCITING TIME.

I'M DELIGHTED I WAS A PART OF THAT A SMALL PART THROUGH BASKETBALL BECAUSE IT SHOWED THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN FULL SOCIETY AND NOT JUST A CORNER OF IT.

AND, LOYOLA GAVE US ALL A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER OUR EDUCATION TO GO FORWARD IN THE WORLD AND I THINK IT OPENS A LOT OF OUR EYES, THE BLACK PLAYERS IN PARTICULAR.

IT WASN'T JUST THIS SMALL WORLD THAT WE ALL GREW UP IN BUT IT SHOWED US THAT THERE WAS A WHOLE WORLD OUTSIDE OF THAT AND LOYOLA GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THOSE THINGS.

IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN 1960 WE WERE KIND OF OUTSIDERS IN A WAY.

WE WERE PART OF THE UNIVERSITY BUT WE WERE NOT.

IN OTHER WORDS, FRATERNITIES WANTED US TO JOIN AND COME TO THEIR MIXERS, THEIR DANCES AND PARTIES THAT THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW US TO JOIN.

YOU'RE ON THE INSIDE BUT OUTSIDE AT THE SAME TIME.

>> IN THE FILM FOR EXAMPLE THEY ASKED YOU TO ATTEND THE PARTY BUT YOU WERE TOLD YOU HAD TO STAND ALONG THE WALL AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY DANCE.

FOR EXAMPLE IF SOMEONE WANTED TO DANCE WITH YOU.

WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE FROM YOUR COACH OR YOUR FELLOW WHITE PLAYERS WHEN YOU ALL WERE EXPERIENCING WHAT YOU DID WHETHER IT BE AT HOME ON CAMPUS OR ON THE ROAD?

>> I WILL TELL YOU, I WAS TALKING TO THE TEAM JUST THE OTHER DAY ABOUT THE SAME THING.

I NOTICED THAT I LISTEN TO SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS FROM THE PLAYERS THAT THE WHITE PLAYERS IN PARTICULAR DID NOT NOTICE IT AS MUCH.

THIS IS HARD FOR ME TO SAY.

I HAVE HAD DISAGREEMENTS WITH MY DAUGHTERS ABOUT THIS BUT EVEN ME, JERRY, RICH, WE WERE NOT TOTALLY UPSET ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON BECAUSE OUR EXPECTATIONS WERE NOT THAT WE WERE FULL MEMBERS OF THE SOCIETY OR OF LOYOLA.

IN THAT SENSE WE ACCEPTED IT AND YET WE WERE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE AT A CERTAIN LEVEL.

REMEMBER NOW, WE ARE 17, 18 AND THE ONLY THING WE CARE ABOUT REALLY IS WE JUST WANTED TO PLAY BASKETBALL.

SOME OF THE SOCIAL THINGS IN 1961, 62 AND 63 WERE BANNED BUT THEY WERE NOT AT THE SURFACE LIKE THEY WERE A FEW YEARS LATER.

IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN.

WITHOUT SOUNDING VERY PASSIVE.

WE WERE NOT PASSIVE YET WE WANTED, THE MOST IMPORTANT IN THOSE DAYS, WE JUST WANTED TO PLAY BASKETBALL, HONESTLY.

>> I WANT TO GET LUCAS WILLIAMSON AND BEFORE WE RUN OUT OF TIME.

YOU SAID ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STUCK OUT TO YOU WAS THE ARIANS THAT RON MILLER AND YOUR TEAMMATES HAD BOTH AT HOME AND ON THE ROAD.

WHY DID LEARNING THAT PART OF THEIR HISTORY IN PARTICULAR UPSET YOU AND WHY DID YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS PROJECT?

>> I DREW PARALLELS TO WHAT I KNOW AND MY EXPERIENCE HERE AT LOYOLA TODAY AND IT'S COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

THE THINGS THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH UPSET ME AND STRUCK ME AWAY FROM THE COURT LIKE THE THINGS THEY HAD TO DO AWAY FROM THE COURT STRUCK ME AND WAS IN LEFT FIELD BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE IN MY WORLD.

SOME OF THE THINGS THEY HAD TO DEAL WITH LIKE NOT STAYING IN THE SAME HOTEL ROOM AS SOME OTHER WHITE STUDENTS.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FROM A LOGICAL BASKETBALL STANDPOINT.

THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO AS A TEAM WHEN YOU'RE ON THE ROAD AND FOR A COACH TO NOT ALLOW THAT ALLOW THE HAPPEN DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME.

I WANTED TO COME ONTO THIS PROJECT BECAUSE THE STORY MEANS SO MUCH TO ME.

I SHARE THE JERSEY WITH ALL OF THESE GUYS AND I THINK IT IS A GREAT STORY THAT NEEDS TO BE TOLD AND SHOULD BE KNOWN.

>> PATRICK, A LOT IS KNOWN ABOUT THE GAME OF CHANGE ITSELF OR MORE IS COMING TO BE KNOWN.

THE FILM GOES BEYOND THAT AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU DID THAT INTENTIONALLY.

WHY WAS IT IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO BROADEN THE STORY BEYOND CHANGE?

>> ARE PEOPLE WHO KNOW THE STORY, THERE'S TWO THINGS THEY KNOW ABOUT THE STORY.

THEY KNOW ABOUT THE COACH WHO BREAKS THE UNWRITTEN RULE AND PLAYED FOR BLACK STARTED AND PEOPLE ALSO KNOW THE RULE OF CHANGE.

THAT'S ABOUT THE MISSISSIPPI TEAM AND WHAT THEY DID TO PLAY IN THAT GAME.

IT SEEMED TO ME THAT THE PLAYERS ON THE LEOLA TEAM WERE ON THE BACKGROUND OF THE STORY OR AT LEAST THE WAY THAT PEOPLE KNEW THE STORY.

WE DECIDED TO DO IS LET'S TELL THE STORY ABOUT THE GUYS ON THE TEAM.

WHAT WAS IT LIKE FOR THEM TO PLAY TOGETHER?

WHAT WAS THE DYNAMIC WITH THEM AND THEIR COACH?

WHAT WAS IT LIKE TO BE ON THE ROAD AND PLAY AT HOME?

WHAT WAS LIFE ON THE COURT AND MORE IMPORTANTLY OFF THE COURT.

THIS IS A BUDDY MOVIE ABOUT THE GUYS AND HOW THEY LIVE TOGETHER AND PLAY TOGETHER AND DID WHAT THEY DID.

AND SO, ALL WE WANTED TO DO WITH THE LOYOLA PROJECT IS TAKE THOSE FIVE STARTERS AND PUT THEM FRONT AND CENTER.

THIS IS THEIR STORY AND WHAT THEY WENT THROUGH IN THEIR AMAZING SEASON AND THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE AND THAT'S WHY THE MOVIE IS SO TERRIFIC BECAUSE YOU HEAR THEM TELL THEIR STORY AND SHARE THEIR STORY WITH LUCAS AND HIS TEAMMATES AND IT IS JUST TERRIFIC, VERY MOVING.

NEXT I WISH WE HAD MORE TIME TO TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT IS A MOVING FILM.

YOU'LL HAVE TO WATCH IT.

I WILL LEAVE IT THERE FOR NOW THANK YOU SO MUCH TWO RON MILLER AND LUCAS WILLIAMSON PAID YOU CAN WATCH TRAN 25 THIS WEEKEND.

>> UP NEXT, A SPOTLIGHT ON BLACK HISTORY MAKERS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT.

STAY WITH US.

>> FEBRUARY IS BLACK HISTORY MONTH AND TO CELEBRATE WE WILL BE SPOTLIGHTING A CHICAGO BLACK HISTORY MAKER THIS Y MAKER THIS WEEK.

THIS WEEK'S HISTORY MAKER IS NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED ARCHITECT WENDELL CAMPBELL.

HE MOVED TO CHICAGO LATER IN LIFE.

CAMPBELL LAUNCHES OWN ARCHITECTURE FIRM IN 1996.

WE TEAMED UP WITH CHICAGO'S URBAN HISTORY ARE SHERMAN "DILLA" THOMAS ABOUT WENDELL AND IS A LEGACY IN THE CITY.

>> HE WAS A PART AND WHAT CHICAGOANS CALL THE CAMPBELL KID.

A GROUP OF FAMILY MEMBERS IN CHICAGO, INDIANA, THAT GO ON AND DO AMAZING THINGS FOR NOT ONLY CHICAGO BUT THE UNITED STATES.

HIS SISTER IS THE FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN TO HAVE AN ACADEMIC ENDOWMENT AT SHE CAN STATE.

BUT TO CHICAGO, HE DESIGNED THE USE EM EXPANSION AND HE ALSO WAS ONE OF THE DESIGNERS OF THE McCORMICK PLACE EXPANSION.

HE BECOMES AN ARCHITECT BECAUSE HE GOT A SCHOLARSHIP, FROM A CHICAGO COMPANY.

>> IN ADDITION TO BEING A HISTORIAN HE ALSO COMMENTED THAT WENDELL DIED AT 81 YEARS OLD.

>>> THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR THIS WEEKEND.

BE SURE TO CHECK OUT OUR WEBSITE, WTTW.com/NEWS FOR THE VERY LATEST FROM THE BTT W NEWS INCLUDING DETAILS INTO WHICH SUMMER FESTIVALS ARE RETURNING TO CHICAGO AFTER A PANDEMIC INDUCED HIATUS.

IF YOU ARE WATCHING US ON SATURDAY NIGHT KNOW THAT YOU CAN CATCH BLACK VOICES AND LATINO VOICES ON SUNDAY AT 10 A.M. AND DON'T FORGET YOU CAN JOIN PARIS SCHUTZ AMI FOR CHICAGO TONIGHT.

FOR ALL OF US HERE AT CHICAGO TONIGHT: BLACK VOICES I AM BRANDIS FREEMAN.

THANKS FOR SHARING PART OF YOUR WEEKEND WITH US.

STAY HEALTHY AND SAFE AND HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

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