
November 10th, 2022
Season 2022 Episode 45 | 28m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
"Historic Shipwrecks and Rescues on Lake Michigan", DeBartolo Performing Arts Ce
A local engineer asked himself the question where did the name "Napier Avenue" come from up in St. Heading into the holiday season there is a lot going on at the DeBartolo Performing Arts Center on the campus of Notre Dame. This is the 5th year for the Women's Entrepreneur Summit and Cindy Cohen the founder sat down with Kelly to talk about what they've been able to accomplish ...
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November 10th, 2022
Season 2022 Episode 45 | 28m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
A local engineer asked himself the question where did the name "Napier Avenue" come from up in St. Heading into the holiday season there is a lot going on at the DeBartolo Performing Arts Center on the campus of Notre Dame. This is the 5th year for the Women's Entrepreneur Summit and Cindy Cohen the founder sat down with Kelly to talk about what they've been able to accomplish ...
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Nine, gonna shine, life is good I'm doing fine.
Ten, Gonna do it right then do it again.
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I look up to the sky with all the beautiful color but, there's more than just for me so gonna share it with another.
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Take a look and see A beautiful morning that turns into beautiful evening.
And together make a beautiful life.
And if you want see, then come along with me.
That's right.
Welcome to another amazing week here at Experience Michiana We have a great lineup for you today.
Dave is going to be talking about all the new things that are going to be coming up at the DeBartolo Performing Arts Center.
You want to make sure you check those out.
Get your tickets if you need to do so.
Also, if you are a woman entrepreneur, we have the fifth annual summit coming up and Kelly is going to be talking about that as well, too.
First up, though, I love Lake Michigan.
I know you love Lake Michigan, too, but there's a lot hiding underneath.
We're going to be talking to a local author who tells us all about the shipwrecks hiding under the water while living here in Michigan.
Many of us have visited Lake Michigan or some of the other Great Lakes, too, but maybe you don't know about all that is hiding underneath the water.
I have with us today the author of this wonderful new book, Michael Pass Water.
Mike, if I may.
Yeah.
Historic Shipwrecks and Rescues of Lake Michigan.
Now, I already started reading this and I haven't been able to put it down.
It's fascinating stuff.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Now, this all started with the reason behind this blog with one simple question, right?
What's what?
How did Napier Avenue get its name?
And that's up in Saint Joe, right?
Did you find the answer?
I found the answer.
The first story.
In a name is based on a guy named Joseph Napier.
Very brave man.
He was the first life saving keeper in Saint Joe when they opened the station up there.
This was pre coast Guard.
And so that was back in the 1800s, 1800 1880s.
Okay.
And he was super brave, man.
He rescued a crew of a schooner called the D.G.
Williams.
Uh huh.
And and for that, he got the first lifesaving gold medal in the service.
And he was just remarkable.
Before that, he was at 26.
He was harbormaster in Chicago.
And when he was there, he rescued two crews off of different ships.
And and he got a gold watch and a whole bunch of other stuff.
I said, extremely brave, man.
Now, rescuing back in the 1800 was a lot different than what we have today.
You know, just a little example.
What did that look like back then?
Well, they did it usually two primary methods.
They either took a life saving boat, which was basically a rowboat is a rowboat and back that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Out into the waves to rescue the crews off the the ship or if it was close enough to shore, they would shoot a line out there with what they call the Lyle gun.
And it was a it was a small cannon.
It was it was right at them and shoot a projectile out there with a rope tied to it.
And the crews were instructed to pull the line out there.
And then once it got rigged, they would come ashore in a device called Preacher's Buie, which was basically a pair of breaches sewn to a buie And they were pulled to shore one at a time.
And that's how they did the rescues.
It's such fascinating stuff.
And I know there's thousands of shipwrecks in Lake Michigan.
Oh, yeah.
There's 1500 an estimated 1500 in Lake Michigan.
Okay.
And how many stories do you share here in your book?
I only have eight stories.
Okay.
So that's just a small sample of it.
Yeah.
These are really impressive stories.
Thank you.
How did you do the research to really know what happened?
Because, you know, I read through some of this.
There's so detailed.
It's amazing.
Hey.
Well, I'm an engineer by trade.
And we started going up to the different libraries, reading a lot of newspapers, a lot of papers from the 1880s, 1890s, all the way up to 1940.
And I would have to go to the library where the wreck happened.
So I would go to the Michigan City Library.
Librarians there are great.
The library in Saint Joe, same thing.
Libraries, librarians there are great.
And all the way up the coast, all the way to Grand Haven.
And I would visit each and every library makes.
How is this historical document?
I mean, the newspapers, most of them.
There are certain editions in Saint Joe that they didn't have.
Okay.
And but Benton Harbor Library did have some of them.
And they often had life saving reports, you know, kind of what we would do nowadays afterwards, reevaluate whether we change the stories.
Yeah, the US life saving reports are amazing.
They are so well detailed and they were written.
This is the guy who started who was put in charge of this life saving service.
Is Kimble.
Yes.
He made sure that the people that would write the stories were professionals.
So it wasn't just hearsay.
So he wanted to add a lot of detail and a lot of action words and stuff like that, because he wanted to make sure that his readers, who were usually congressmen and senators and stuff, would enjoy reading his his report.
And so because of that, he would also get funding.
So.
So he was very smart guy.
Very.
Absolutely.
And I think something important to touch on, too, is, you know, back in the 1800s and even probably the early 1900s, I think until the U.S. Coast Guard was official in the 1900s, anybody who was doing these rescuing, they had no insurance.
They had no they didn't have anything.
If something happened to them, that was it for them in their families Usually, if if one of the people died, their families became destitute, they lost all of their income and lost all their abilities, and they could make money and support their family.
And so they were really risking their lives.
Oh, yeah.
For others, too.
Yeah.
And that's one of the things that I found fascinating about the US Life-Saving service.
They were risking their lives and they really did not get paid well for that.
And you know, they just were really fantastic people and you've done so much research.
How long did it take you to research to write this book?
It took me about six years.
That's amazing.
And and it wasn't a straight six years, but I would write a story and writing that story, I'd find different things to to connecting.
And I think.
Yeah.
And, and from there we would start gathering information about that and it would just be the something else Yeah.
And, and, you know, and I hate to say this, but a lot of the books that are written are rehash of existing stories.
And it's a great read.
Yeah, it is.
It's an easy read.
Where can people get the book?
Well, I'm doing a book signing November 30th, 630 in Forever Books in Saint Joe, Michigan.
Okay.
And that's one place to get it.
The other places are in Saint Joe would be Pier 1000.
The other one is Wolfe's marina, which you're familiar with.
And then Barnes Noble has it on Main Street, the history center here in South Bend, has it.
And then if you want to go online, Amazon, Barnes Noble, online, almost any site you type up historical shipwrecks and rescues, and it pops up about six, seven, eight sites.
Well, I'm about halfway through so far, so I'm excited to jump on the second half of this.
Thank you so much for sharing a bit of this with us.
I will give you a bit of advice.
Okay.
The first seven stories are true.
The eighth one is all fiction.
Really?
Okay.
And you might want to have a box of tissues near by.
Oh, I'm glad you told me that.
I'll be ready.
And you will be to check it out.
The book.
All right.
So we are here inside the DeBartolo, which I just found out has five theaters, which I didn't know.
Sean, what are all the five theaters that are here?
Put me to the test.
So we are in the Regis Philbin Studio Theater right now, a black box theater.
We have the Patricia George Deco Theater, which is a proscenium theater next door.
We have the Leighton Concert Hall, the largest of the venues.
And then we have the Reyes Organ and Choral Hall.
A nice, beautiful, little intimate kind of chapel, like a venue.
And then, of course, we have the Browning Cinema, which Ricky here is in domain of, in control of.
So those are the five main performance spaces.
You know, we have some rehearsal rooms that sometimes act as performance spaces, but those are the five.
Yeah.
And they're all so unique and all cater to such different performances, right?
Absolutely.
Which is fantastic.
So let's talk about some of the performances.
What's actually coming up?
Yeah.
So we have you know, we're just talking that this has been, you know, sort of the kickoff to a more traditional year coming out of COVID.
So we've had a number of performances already as part of the presenting series, which is the series are professional touring artists that come through.
But up next, we have Dame Emma Kirkby and Jacob Lindbergh, who plays the lute.
So Emma Kirkby is like the foremost performer of early English songs.
So these are songs of the 15, 16, 17th centuries accompanied by Lute, which is sort of the predecessor to the guitar.
So she is a dame.
She's recognized for her excellence in music.
And if you're an early music scholar, she's sort of like the Rolling Stones in.
So she's a big deal.
I love it.
And somebody who will be more known to a lot of people is also coming, but not necessarily for what she's known for.
Right.
So when we tell people Lisa Loeb is coming, they of course, think of, you know, the nineties hit stay from reality bites.
But she's actually coming to perform her children's music.
So after her sort of indie rock career, she pivoted over to children's music.
And so she'll be here on the Saturday, the 12th in the morning at 11 a.m.
ET, performing a whole concert for kids.
I like it.
She's pretty smart, you know.
Now she doesn't have to stay awake till 1 a.m. doing all these concerts and so, yeah, I did not know that Lisa Loeb had moved in that direction.
All right.
So we also have Colin Andrews.
Tell us a little bit about it.
Yeah.
So that's part of our guest organist series.
He'll be performing at the Basilica and that instrument.
So it's a very large, beautiful instrument.
And he's one of four professional or guests that are coming to perform this year.
He's the second, actually.
Nice.
That must be for people like Colin.
It must be kind of really cool to get to play in a basilica.
Yeah, absolutely.
So, you know, his career, he plays in churches like, you know, he's an organist.
So that's why Notre Dame is still a special one.
And then that's that instrument is fairly new.
It's it's just a few years old.
So to really be able to, you know, get your hands on that, a modern instrument built in the style of an old organ is sort of the best of both worlds.
So he's going to love it.
Yeah, I heard some rumors about how much that organ cost to build but I don't even want to go there I guess on this.
So I know there's a couple of other performances that people can look forward to as well coming up.
Yeah, so the beginning of December, we have Brooklyn Ryder, which is a string quartet, but maybe not your grandma string quartet.
So they play a lot of contemporary music, you know, arranged for the string quartet.
They'll play a couple of standard, you know, Beethoven, Haydn, you know, works to show that they have the chops, but then they they sort of delve into more contemporary music.
I'm just surprised you knew that my grandmother had a string quartet.
That was a good guess, like, you know, and then one more list.
Yeah, one more coming up, because obviously it's Christmas time.
It is.
And so this is probably one of the more popular probably the most popular event on our season, which is Jane Lynch, the great comedian and actress, is doing a Christmas variety show with another great comedian, actress Kate Flannery, who you may remember as Meredith from the In the Office.
Oh, red head.
So they're doing a great Christmas variety special on Remind Me December 9th.
So we have a little extra time for that.
But get your tickets.
Those are those are flying hot off the shelf because there's tickets literally on a shelf.
Yeah, there are actually fewer and fewer these days as things are becoming digital.
But make sure to download the Deepak app to get your digital ticket.
So is that the best way to actually get the tickets?
Just download the app to your phone.
That is that's the easiest way and most seamless way.
You can of course, also visit performing arts dot nd dot edu for more information.
Or you can call our ticket office at 5746312800.
All right.
So lots of great live performances.
Ricky, what about films?
We got a pretty busy month Things are things are wrapping up and we have a little time off for Thanksgiving.
Otherwise, six days a week, we'll be in action with about 12 screenings each week.
So I don't know if you know for sure, but what's the kind of ratio between like students and people who are affiliated with Notre Dame and then just the community coming to your films?
Yeah, it really depends on the titles that we have.
Some of our family films, you tend to have a larger population in the community compared to students.
Others that might really be targeted at 21 year olds tend to do pretty well with their students.
So it really is title specific.
So tell me about the pfinkelpfunder Family film.
You got a lot of the pieces in there that are just unnecessary, right?
I like spelling bees.
So I had to be.
Yeah.
So these are films that we show every Sunday at 1 p.m..
It's a dollar to get in.
A dollar for popcorn, a dollar for pop.
Realize that's a lot of money for some people, but we hope that lowers the barriers for families, groups and other people who want to see of films together to come in and have an afternoon at the movies in the series coming up, we have one of the more recent iterations of The Muppets.
This is the one with Jason Segel and Amy Adams from a decade ago.
We have a film from the 1920s, The Adventures of Prince Ahmed, which is an early, early animated movie that uses paper cutouts and shadows.
And it's really beautiful film.
We have the much reviled Cats adaptation from a couple of years ago.
Yeah, the popcorn is only 50. cent of people coming to see that, right.
And then we're closing it out with Black Nativity, which incorporates Langston Hughes, this play into a Christmas story that, again, a family film for a decade ago.
But I think a lot of people are going to want to revisit.
So what is learning beyond the classics?
This is a course that the community is able to take alongside Notre Dame students.
We have lectures, reading, podcasts and discussions around the films, so we're pretty far into the series this year, so picking up the class element might be difficult, but there are still some titles that you can come out and see and stick around for the discussion as well.
We have Truman has some Blige Su Friedrichs the ties that bind over the emperors they can army marches on the Tuesday before Thanksgiving.
We tend to show like a rock and roll a concert film.
And this year we have stunt rock from the late seventies and then we close out with close up, which is a beautiful or any movie, my favorite movie of all time.
And then Flee which recently did well at the Oscars, you might remember that it's a hybrid animated documentary film.
Nothing to do with Cats.
The Flea, right?
No, no.
Two is, two is.
And those are two said.
Yeah, okay.
I'm sorry.
And the Nanovic European series.
Yeah.
Tell me about that.
Yeah.
So these are Wednesdays at 730.
They're free for everyone to get in.
And it's in partnership with the Nanovic Institute for European Studies.
We've had a series this year that looks at kind of autobiographical director films, so kind of taking their own life and making out romantically.
And we're closing out with Bergm which kind of about a relationship with another film director, and then filtering that through her relationship with Ingmar Bergman, where he would make his films.
And then Paolo Sorrentino's the hand of God, which a lot of people maybe checked out on Netflix during the pandemic.
But great to see on the big screen where it was intended to go.
Now, there is one here that I know all the president's Men, right?
That's yeah.
That's coming up, too.
Yeah.
So two days after the midterm election, we are going to have a screening of All the President's Men.
And this is really great.
We have a Pulitzer Prize winner.
Congress is not only be joining us, an alum of Notre Dame as well, and going to be in conversation with Kaitlynn Carter and Jason Kelley to discuss the ways that politics have been portrayed on the screen and in other forms of media and how that either gets us to believe or buy in or cast doubt on the system and have a broad discussion about that.
Now, I know there's also, uh, opera.
There is.
So we have just one that's coming out, but it's a classic The Magic Flute, which if people have seen this production in the past, it's a Julie Taymor production and the Metropolitan Opera allows us to screen every year and it has serpents, our Nathan Gunn in it as well.
And to finish this off, some new movies, right?
So yeah, films, I should say.
We've been hanging out in the past.
The movies works, the film sounds better.
Yeah, it sounds fancier.
It does sound fancier.
Yeah.
So the we have some new films that are coming out.
We have Plan 75, a film from Japan which imagines a world in which there's economic incentives for that genocide or for older people to off themselves.
Oh, wow.
That's but it really does bring forward the questions of like how we respect the elderly, particularly in nations where the elderly population is growing in size compared to like the lack of a youth bulge.
We also have outgrown Movimiento from Bolivia, which is a beautiful little film set in La Paz, and then along with the Riley Center here on campus for Science, technology and values, we have picture of scientists which looks at the role of women in stem stem fields broadly and some of the some of the hurdles that are faced by them joining into those worlds.
Then lastly, Andrew Petrovsky, who did support the girls in computer chess, has a new film called There There, where none of the actors were in shared spaces.
They did all their parts individually, and then he cut it into one large film, obviously riffing a little bit on the world in the pandemic.
All right.
So for all these films and everything else, how do people get their tickets?
It's pretty much the same process that Sean outlined.
So you can go to performing arts that indeed are edu or you can show up at the box office, there'll be plenty of tickets and certainly check out the website as many of these screenings are free or have a nominal cost of going into Nice.
All right.
Well, Sean, Ricky, thank you so much.
It's great to be back here.
Great seeing ya If you're a woman who owns a business or a woman who's always wanted to own a business, you definitely don't want to miss the fifth annual Women's Entrepreneurship Summit, which is happening November 17, and we are so excited to have Cindy and Tracy with us now.
Cindy, this is your baby.
Hey, dad.
And this is the fifth annual one.
How does it feel to have a five year old now?
Oh, my gosh, I never thought about it like that.
It's pretty exciting.
Well, you know, like all five year olds, it's about time to set it off to be independent.
And I'll tell you, it's been really great.
The event has blossomed and bloomed, and we've helped so many women over the years.
I would say around 500 women have come to our events and their businesses have grown because of it.
They've grown because of it.
And our community is a better place to live because of it.
It definitely is.
And speaking of how much it's grown and the women that you've helped, Tracy is one of those women and we're at her beautiful boutique.
It's called Unique Boutique.
And as you can see, there's so many various items that you can come here and buy.
But but you are one of the people that has benefited from what Cindy has done.
Yes.
Cindy is a diamond in the community.
She researched how many women owned businesses were in our community.
And the numbers were astonishing.
And I think it like put a fire under Cindy to say, hey, I'm going to seek these business owners out.
I am going to support them.
I will mentor them.
The numbers have to change in our community that women are seen and heard and respected as women, business owners, entrepreneurs.
And I thought, wow, you know, Cindy, she always says, you know, I can help you with that.
Yes, she does.
Yes, she does.
And how has it been for you?
How long have you been here now?
It's been three years, three interesting years.
You know, during the pandemic, we strategize, you know, I can always call Cindy and say, you know, what should I do or not?
Do you know?
So even at the beginning, before I opened the door, Cindy said, you know, you need a accounting, you need a bookkeeper.
You know, you need to watch your numbers and then boom, you know, everything was lined up.
There was the pandemic.
So I was pivot, strategize.
Yes.
And that support is so important.
And that is something that you do so well, Cindy.
But it's what's very exciting this time is that you also have the support of of the mayor of Mishawaka and of South Bend.
Yes, we do.
We're very excited.
We've always been part of the global movement, Women's Entrepreneurship Day, and we cause celebration at the Women's Entrepreneur Summit.
But this year we really get to celebrate because the mayor of Mishawaka and the mayor of South Bend are proclaiming November 19th as Women Entrepreneurship Day.
And that's a big statement for our community.
One of the things I've really noticed over the years through working with different women entrepreneurs is women are not seen as real business owners.
So this really, you know, helps women to step up into their power and strength and say, yes, I am a real business owner and the city stands behind me on this.
Yes, they do.
And women really in our in the Michigan area, as Tracy was saying, that the entrepreneurs for women has really grown, has really taken off.
When I before we started the nonprofit organization in Saint Joel County, the percentage of women entrepreneurs that were here is only 2%.
And in Indiana was 37%.
So it was like a big difference, 2% and 37%.
And the latest statistics that came out from the 2020 census and said that Saint Joe County is significantly higher at 11%, but South Bend is at 15% and Mishawaka is at 8%.
So it's like very exciting to see such big changes and women coming together through them, supporting each other and coming to events and learning how to be better entrepreneurs.
I really believe we've saved a lot of businesses in our community through the mentoring that we provide.
Absolutely.
Now it's taking place November 17th.
Tell us what the day is going to look like.
Oh, it's a full day.
It's like very exciting.
We have people come and they have a they get to network and mingle.
We have exhibitors, we have business spotlights for our resources to help women entrepreneurs.
Then we have a full day of presentations and we have 18, well, 17 or 18 speakers this year we have eight from the women entrepreneurs themselves giving advice.
And then we also have our resources in our community, like the City of South Bend and the new business plan competition.
And we have just a lot of really fun things going on in the city and women can come there and hear all about it.
Then over lunch we have a chef competition for the women entrepreneurs, chefs.
Where are the tasting?
So all the women at the event get to taste catered food and vote for who they think should win the Best Bite award.
And then afterwards at 4:00, we have our vendor event again and then we're having a business after hours that sponsored by the Mishawaka Business Association and Rio Park event.
So it's a full day of learning and networking and getting the education support, mentoring.
It's fantastic.
And you just mentioned Rio Park events.
That's a female owned business that you really had a big part in.
Yeah, well it's been a great I mean, I don't know that that's such a big part, but I'm very much an encourager and I also have a very successful mentoring program and we've been able to help her quite a bit and we frequent there because we try to support women on business as much as we can.
And I know a lot of people say, oh, well, you know, I don't I think we have more women on businesses than what the statistics tell us.
But, you know, that might be true.
However, it isn't true because all you have to do is make a decision today to only buy from women owned businesses.
So how far will you get with your purchasing if you only support women on business?
And that'll give you an idea of how many women on business are out there.
Very true.
Now, there's also a graduating class.
There is, yes.
Tell us a little bit about.
So we see to your Health Women's Initiative has a program called Women Entrepreneur Excellence, Course and Certification and each year we have 20 women who apply and get accepted to the course is very vigorous.
It's one year and during that year everyone 100% grow their business during that year through the mentoring program.
It's very exciting and this year's class is graduating at our event.
Oh, that is really exciting.
Now you also have door prizes and giveaways.
We do.
We make it a lot of fun and we have a special prizes that we create and also some that the, you know, people who attend donate.
So it's a lot of fun.
And then we also have a deejay and entertainment.
It's just really a fun day full of mentoring, resource gathering, networking, education.
I mean, there's really it's amazing.
Yeah.
Everyone else to come.
That is great.
So it's November 17th.
What time do the doors open?
Doors open at 9:00 and they close out of six.
And how can people get tickets?
They can go to the website.
So it's women's like more than one, like women's entrepreneur summit dot org.
They can go there.
They can look on Facebook for a women's entrepreneur summit where they're too All right.
All right.
Well, thank you so much, Cindy.
Thank you for all that you are doing in our community.
And congratulations to you as well, Traci Thank you.
This month is already going by very quickly, but there's still plenty to do in Michiana as we wrap up fall and start heading our way into winter, we want to know what you have going on in Michiana and tell us what you would like us to check out.
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