
September 11th, 2025
Season 2025 Episode 37 | 28m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Rockne Life & Legacy, You Can't Take it With You, Dustin's Place
Rockne is a name that stands through history at Notre Dame, and there is now an exhibit at The History Museum that celebrates the Life & Legacy of Knute Rockne. Coming to the stage at the historic Bristol Opera House is the next production of the Elkhart Civic Theatre. Any time we experience a loss, it is better to not have to go it alone.
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September 11th, 2025
Season 2025 Episode 37 | 28m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Rockne is a name that stands through history at Notre Dame, and there is now an exhibit at The History Museum that celebrates the Life & Legacy of Knute Rockne. Coming to the stage at the historic Bristol Opera House is the next production of the Elkhart Civic Theatre. Any time we experience a loss, it is better to not have to go it alone.
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That's right.
Welcome to Experience Michiana.
We're so glad you joined ustoday.
Around me is a new space that maybeyou haven't seen before, or at least not in this way.
Ruby's remnantsand more is opening at the Cassidy Costume Company.
They had their grand opening happeningthis Saturday, 12 to 4 p.m.. We're going to tell youall about that coming up in another showin the next couple of weeks.
But first off, let's talk aboutwhat's on tap for us today.
I had the chance to head overto the Elkhart Civic Theater.
You can't take it with you,but you can get your tickets.
Make sure you do that.
Also, we're going to be talkingto Dustin's place.
This is a tremendous nonprofitorganization in our area that really helps those who are greatly in need,especially those who are in the grief period.
First up, though,we're heading over to the History Museumin South Bend.
They have Rockne lifeand legacy.
We're goingto tell you all about that.
I'm here atthe History Museum of South Bend for something that football fansthis time of the year, especially with the season nowback.
This is a great exhibitto come to.
I'm here with Emily.
Emily, tell me a little bitabout this exhibit.
It's about Newt Rockne and his life and legacy,and there's so much to see.
Yeah.
So this exhibit covers Rockne'sentire life from his origins in Norway.
His travel across to Chicago,how he got to Notre Dame and then how his, coachingcareer went, and also all of his other extracurricular activitiesthat he did aside from coaching as well as eventuallyhis death, on a plane.
And how long have you been putting this togetherto have this?
I mean, did you just open itin time for football season?
That was obviouslyplanned as well.
We just started getting thistogether last September, open just in timefor football season to start.
So we're hoping to geta lot of Notre Dame fans in once the home games start.
So yeah, it's great.
And I know we're going to have a lookaround the museum at some of the some of the highlightsof this exhibit.
So starting with a sweater.So let's go there first.
All right.
So tell me about here.
It's a sweater and a whistle.
So this isthis actually belonged to him.
Like did he wear it or.
Yeah.
So this was wornused by Knute Rockne and very much well used,from what Notre Dame told us, they got this sweaterfrom a player of Rockne's who said, that he wore topractice all the time.
And then they actually foundthis photograph of him with a hole in the exactsame spot.
Exact same size.
And then this whistle,we have the side facing up.
One side has Notre Dame, the top side that is facingus, says Newt Rockne.
This is actuallythe fashion today.
But that was just actually because that'show much he wore it back.
Yes, exactly.
All right.
And we've got some little fanshere who love seeing it as well.
My little daughter is herewith me today as we look at the lifeand legacy of Knute Rockne.
And I also knowthat, in this building is the Studebaker Museum, which is,you know, your neighbor museum.
And actually, this exhibit hasa bit of a crossover with that, which is a vehiclethat's over here in the corner.
So I didn't know thisabout Knute Rockne, but he actually workedfor Studebaker as well.
Right.
So yeah.
So he started working for Studebakershortly before his death.
This car, the cars didn'tcome out until after, Rockne has passed.
And while the sign says,the Studebaker Rockne, this was actuallya completely separate company.
It was a subsidiary of,Studebaker.
So a completelydifferent company.
There'sa couple different models.
This was one of the newer ones.
So we were actually ableto borrow this from the Studebaker Museum.
It's absolutely beautiful.
And, of course, football coachesdidn't make as much money back then.
It's not like it is todaywhere, you know, you might get$5 million a year or something.
So he had to have a real jobas well.
Yeah.
He had, several projectsthat he worked on, not just, with the Studebaker company, but he was also creatingother promotional items.
He workedwith the Wilson, company.
We actually have a helmetthat has his name on it.
And his pants.
He has a humidor that was madefrom a real football as well as a football kind ofgame board situation over there.
Now, there is actually one thingthat I want to look at real quick,and we can go over there because it actually says,please touch.
Yes.
So I want to see thatreally quick, okay.
Because, my brother is here with me today and my brother was holdingthis football.
And I said,what do you do when you get.
And he said, no,it says, please touch.
So I just want to see thisreally quick.
So yeah.
So one thingthat we wanted to add was something that our peoplecould actually handle, because all these objects,we obviously don't want people touching these 100 yearold artifacts, but these we actually got from a companythat makes reproductions.
Yeah.
Footballsand helmets from the field.
What it was like.
Yeah.
So this one is actually kindof the style that nobody would wear, especially with the blackcrosses.
Yeah.
And that football is actuallybigger than the modern day football.
It's more like a rugby ballthat it is today.
Well, I just like that the museum, because I think it'sso important for people to be able to feel thingsand touch things and, and so that's really cool.
And of course, his life ended in a very tragic way,which I know you also have, an exhibit here, part of that.
So we're going to have a lookat that as wellto finish off this today.
But when can peoplecome to see this.
Are you open all yearround to open all week long?
Yeah, all week long.
Except for of coursemajor holidays.
Monday through Saturday,we're open 10 a.m. to 5 p.m.. Sundays, noon to 5 p.m..
Okay.
And, this exhibit is going ontill when this closes May 31st.
So.
Okay.So the school year.
Yeah.
Okay.
Nice.
All right.
So, his endwas in an airplane in Kansas, and, tell me a little bitabout this part of the exhibit hereand what you have going on.
Yeah.
So Rockne was actually on ajourney for, business purposes.
He was going out to LA, discussa movie promotion.
Actually meant to see his boys.
Our school in Kansas,before, arriving on the plane.
Sadly, their train was late,and so he didn't get to see his, boys.
So he got on the plane.
And at this timeperiod, people are a little bit skeptical about plane travel, but he consideredit incredibly safe.
Unfortunately, mechanical issueshappened.
And the plane ended up crashing,in a farm field.
So we have some piecesof that plane here, as well as the cufflinksthat he was actually wearing.
Oh, wow.
It was in that plane.
We actually have a piecefrom the from the wing.
Yeah.
So these are all kind of different pieces of that planethere.
This is a model of, that plane.
Yeah, it's a Fokker F ten.
Yeah.
That's the actual name.
Okay.We didn't say a bad word.
No, it's called the Fokker.Okay.
So, yeah.
And then the cufflinksthat he was wearing as well.
And so.
Yes.
Wow.
And so where didmost of these pieces come from?
Like, is this stuff that was already at Notre Dameor is this stuff from different collectorsaround the country?
A little bit of both.
The cufflinks come from NotreDame archives.
These items here,come from Augie's locker room.
He has these, typically on display in a store,not for sale, but, for people to be ableto kind of see these pieces.
And is there anything elsethat as you look around here, I mean, we've lookedat some of the different things, like the carand the airplane here as well.
Is there anything that you thinkis really cool that you think, okay, that'ssomething like the sweater, but what's your kind of favorite thing herethat you think people, can I show youmy favorite photographs?
I absolutely, yeah.
If youwant to follow me on.
Yeah.
All right.
So many people, of course, know that Rockne was a very athletic man, but he also had a bunchof other extracurriculars, that he did whilehe was a student at Notre Dame.
One of them beinghe did marbles.
He also didtrack and stuff like that.
But they also,did plays at Notre Dame.
And this is at a time periodwhere women were not students at Notre Dame.
So like the Shakespeare Times, if you neededa female character.
Yeah.
It was going to be a manin a dress.
So we have this photographthat we brought borrowed from, learning archives of Rockneand a wig and, and a dress.
And he actually,got a very good review in the Scholastic,which is a Notre Dame.
Student newspaper there.
It's so funny,the difference in mentality of, couldyou imagine Marcus Freeman now dressing up as a womanin a play at Notre Dame because, or, you know,this is so many things.
And just the role of a coachhas changed so much.
And just football in generalhas become such a big business and such abut this is really cool.
As I mentioned, it's the life and legacy of Knute Rockne, somebody thatI hear about a lot.
I mean, there's been so muchtalk about them, constantly, but I didn't knowthat much about him.
So even as I'm here,I'm learning a lot.
But then again, I didn't even watch the movieRudy until last year, which I feel like if I had admitted thatwhen I first moved to South Bend,people might have actually, like,made me go back to Ireland.
So.
And but this is really cool.
And as you mentioned,the opening hours again, 10 to 5, Monday throughSaturday, 12 to 5 on Sundays.
Okay.
So you're open every day ofthe week, every day of the week.
Awesome.
All right.
Rockne, the life and legacy.
Emily, thank youso much for showing me around.
You guys did a great jobwith the exhibit.
That's really wonderful.
Make sureand come see it and go Irish.
Well I’m sitting in the beautiful new lobby hereat the Elkhart Civic Theater.
And you can't take it with you, but we're taking it here todayall in together, right?
The next performance coming up.
I mean, this is kindof a classic, if you will.
And Dave, you're directingit this time, right?
Right.
And this production has been aroundsince the 1930s is I mean, 36 is when the play came outand I think then, late 30s or maybe 1940,the movie came out okay.
But it's, George,George Kaufman, Moss Hart comedy and, some people thinkit's possibly their best.
Oh, it's, it's a classic.
It's a classic.
And it's,about a family of people who are somewhat eccentric in their own way, which I feellike many of us can relate to.
Right?
We all have family members who are eccentric and uniquein their own ways.
That's right.And then they have one.
They have there's one of thedaughters who is, more or less normal and has fallen in lovewith the boss's white boss's son and is, and wants to bring him hometo meet the family.
But she's embarrassed becauseshe knows her family is weird.
And, hilarity ensues, basically.
Okay.
We have, all kinds of differentsorts of people, including Sharon Weisman, who plays Pennyin the play Penny Sycamore.
Okay, so tell me about this rolethat you're playing, Sharon.
Well, she is the mother, the matriarch, basically,of the family, of the eccentric familyof the offense.
Okay.
Yes.
Although she thinks everybody'snormal.
Of course.
Yes.
And, she has some eccentricqualities.
She, paints, she, writes plays, but doesn'tdo any of them very well.
But she thinks about.
And, she's, kind of, I don'tknow, blunt would be the word.
Okay.
But she doesn't.
She's very nice.Not trying to be mean.
She just says what she says.
Yes.
And.
Yeah, she wantsto get her daughter married.
I love it.
Do you have any waythat you relate your own personal lifeinto that role, or anythingyou've been writing about from?
I don't know how they tell youI'm a.
No.
But probably thethe family being number one.
That's her goal.Her family is number one.
She wants the best for her.
For both of her daughters.
Everybody and friends.
She's it's it's very inviting.I hope to think, like that.
You know, anybody can come inand the couple characters do and stay a long time.
And I think that's what peopleprobably get when they come in.
Is that what you're hopingthey walk away with is.
Yeah.
The familyand people are unusual.
Depending on your perspective,anyone can be kind of eccentric.
But, there'sthere's also sort of a, a message of, sort of like,don't worry, be happy.
Kind of thing.
The patriarch of the familyis, grandpa named Martin Vanderhoff, who quit goingto work 35 years ago and is, been happier ever since.
And so, and he, he's sort of maybe the philosophical coreof the story.
Interesting.
And, and he, you know, he's he'sthe one who in he'sreally not a huge anarchist.
He just doesn't careto get involved in the world in the same waythat other people do.
Okay.
And now, Dave,you're directing this one.
I know it's been a minutesince you and I have talked about directing.
What has it been likedirecting this particular cast?
Well, directing this one is,it's a classic, classic play.
So you kind of have to be trueto it.
And it's not the sort of thingthat I would take.
And, you know,you can't update it.
Yeah.
Play around with actors.
It's got to be what it is.
And, the the authors arepretty intentional about that.
And, the other thing is you just haveto have good people and trust them that they know you know, how to deliver the,the stuff and, deliver their lines and,you know, play the characters.
And we have a pretty good castfor that.
And you guys always havephenomenal actors here at the theater.I mean, you talk to that.
I mean, I knowpeople are new to the theater.
This is not your first timeaway, is it?
No.
Okay.
But bringing in new peopleand also those were your veteran,you know, see, you know, we we I think to some degree it'sbecause of the material that we do becausewe don't necessarily, do the, the moreI don't know, I don't know what you would call the pop,the pop type music or the more the more, trendy kinds of things.
Doesn't meanwe don't do new stuff because we do sometimes,but we don't, we do stuff that we think is going to challenge our actorsa little bit, and the actors learn from thatand get better at it.
And even though this is a show that's been aroundfor a long time and a lot of people have seenthe movie, it's not the sort of showyou can step into and say, well, I'll just do it like so-and-sodid it in the movie.
It it requires your ownkind of interpretation and some skill toto deliver on it.
Absolutely.
And Shannon, what is your experiencebeen like that?
Do have you seen this productionbefore either on.
I have not I've seen the movie.You have seen it.
There's actuallytwo versions of the movie.
The character that I play,the movie that I saw, Jean Stapleton from all onthe family, played my role.
Okay,so if you kind of look at her and all on the family,it's kind of sorta.
Even thoughshe's not as crazy as that.
It's sort of, that kindof character that she plays.
Yeah, it's a realput into your own role, and it's a really funny, showthat has actually a good moral.
You know, atthe end is a family.
Family for this.Oh, yeah.
It is.
Okay.
That's good to know.
And how can peopleget their tickets or when are the performances?
Well, the performances are,start September 12th, 13th and 19th, 20th and 21st.
Okay, so.
And the last and the 21st isour matinee on the on a Sunday.
You get, tickets, for, this show by going toElkhart Civic Theater.
dot ORG And I believe it's.
Why.
Oh, you two.
But if you go to the main page,we can get your ticket in there and click on ticketsyou're going to get.
You're going to getyou're going to get there.
Yeah.
Now I can't say enough about we're sitting in the lobbywhich is newly remodeled.
It's actually newly restored.
It's stored okay.
And it is beautiful.
You guys have donea tremendous job.
I know you had wonderful community supportto make this happen too.
Yeah, yeah, we had.
So we had waterdamage here in the lobby, from some, plumbing failuresupstairs.
And, we're really right now atjust about the end of the work, there'sjust a little bit more to do, and then it'll be all readyfor the public.
But it it really we didn'twe didn't, really miss a beat in terms of shows.
We still had our summerproduction and, you know, we had, youknow, plywood on the floor here.
We're still goingto get you in the door for this, but but people, people could still go to the auditoriumbecause that wasn't damaged.
And so it, it allit all came out okay basically.
I love it.
What's nexton the docket for you guys here?
Next up on the docket is a youthproduction in October called, the, Greek.
What is it called?
Greek mythology.
Olympia.
Gans.
It is, it's.
I did that one before.
Have never heard of it.
No, I don't.
It's a, it's a it's it's a, kind of an anthology of Greekmythology with humorous twists.
And our kids from 8 to 18, will be having a good timewith that.
The auditions are actuallycoming up fairly soon as well.
Make sure you gogo on the website.
You can findthe audition dates as well.
And then after thatwe're doing a show which was, it's a Stephen Sondheimmusical called Merrily We Roll Along,and that will be in November.
And that's sort of a Broadwaystory about playwright and, musical writers, you know, and so it'sit'll be a lot of fun.
And for Sondheim's terrific.
Awesome.
All right.
Well, thank you guysso much for sharing.
We will see you up on the stage.Thank you.
Make sureyou guys get your tickets.
I'm here in Plymouth with Vicky Brown at the brandnew home of Dustin's place.
This is amazing.
I'm so happy to be here.
For anyonewatching who doesn't know what Dustin's places,this has been the journey for you to get to this pointand this is just phenomenal.
Can you tell me a little bitabout the background?
Because it obviously doeshave a tragic start, but you've turned itinto something now that is really helpinga lot of people.
Yeah.
Thank you.
We're so excitedthat you're here with us today.
Dustin's place was foundedin 2019, in honor of my late husband, Dustin Cullen,who died in a car accident on his way home from work.
We had three young kids, and it was throughthat understanding of my kids grief and my own griefthat there wasn't any place for kids and familiesto go after someone dies.
So we opened our peer to peergrief support groups here in Plymouth, Indiana.
And in the last five yearswe have just grown so greatly.
We've served over900 individuals in both our evening groupsas well as our school, grief support groups.
And, in two days,we're moving into our new home.
And so up until now,where have you been?
And and how have you been doing?
You've been in a shared spaceor what have you been?
Yeah.
So when we first opened,we were given, a space at a local churchhere in Plymouth, Plymouth Community Church, and they gaveus their space for no cost.
But we were limited onwhen we could have groups so we could only offer groupsin the evenings.
We couldn't do all the programingthat was being requested of us.
But it was no cost.
So it allowed us toreally get our feet set, in orderto have a permanent home here.
And tell me about the buildingwe're in right now, because and the missionof the owners of this building really fitswith your mission, too.
So.
Yes.
Yes.
So the owners, the life Flex, is the name of the buildingand the Life Flex owners, the family that is part of this,the Harlem family, they, heard our missionand immediately offered this spaceto us for a dollar.
And it's amazing.
It's amazing.
But their missionis to be stewards of those who are using God's giftsto support others.
And so this entire buildingis built on that concept.
Let's supportpeople in all areas of life, whether it'sphysical, emotional, whatever that need is, let'sbring it all into one roof.
And so it was a dollar,20 year lease that you have, but you did have to fundraise in order to be able to make itexactly the way you wanted it to be,which that was a big task that you undertook over the lastcouple of years as well.
So it wasit is a very generous gift.
It was incredible.
To receivethis building for a dollar.
But you're right,the renovations they cost said $750,000.
And the furniture,an additional $50,000.
So I'm like, you almost assquirm there as you were saying.
The number 700.
I know, because it's a big number,but actually imitating it is.
But for a building that's like,what, 6500 square, 60, 700ft²?
And for all of the servicesthat you're going to bring, that'sactually an incredible renovate.
Like that's not a big amountfor what you've turned it into.
Yes.
Yeah.
And actuallyit wasn't a couple of years.
It was six months.
Wow.
It took us six months to get the community support needed to financially walkinto this space debt free.
But as we know, as believers,that's a gift from God.
And so to be in a space with owners who believe inutilizing God's gifts, to have a community that also wants to supportthose who are doing his work, I mean, the communitysupported us six months.
We raised over $800,000 to be entering this building,completely debt free, to serve twice as manyfamilies as we've ever served.
And right now, as you see,there's no furniture in here because that's being deliveredin a few days and hopefully before it airs,we will be able to actually show you some photosor video of the pictures, but there is one thingthat I want you to show me.
And Anquan Constructionwas actually part of this.
Tell me a little bit aboutthe light fixtures over here, because I want to have a lookat these over here, and I want to look aroundbecause we're standing here.
But but tell me about this.
And what's the symbolic natureof these lights?
Yeah, these lights were, originally scheduled to bependant lights over the bar.
And, and construction architectfound these lights specifically for us.When he found them, he looked at themand he saw them.
They represent the grief story.Grief is messy.
So messy.
It's not a straightline.
It's not a linear paththat we can take.
It's a messy, storythat we have to live out.
And so when Matt van SOSand Ancon saw this, they said, you havethis has to go in your space.
We need these.
And so they donated themso that we can bring them into this space,which is our cafe space, but also our educational space.
So any time I do a grieftraining up front, I can say, and that is grief.
Yeah, grief is messy.
And that's what it looks like.
Yeah, it is messy, but it can also be a lightand it can be beautiful.
It can it can leadto great things.
Right?
Yes.
You use yoursto turn it into Dustin's place.
And and although it ismessy and, you know,we're friends on Facebook, sometimes it's very messy and sometimes it's, it'sobviously very upsetting.
But it can also be beautiful.Absolutely.
It has a way.
All right.
Well, we want to have a lookaround a little bit more.
I want to talk aboutsome of the specific rooms that you have as well and what they doand the different things and different waysof going about grief, because of course, two year olds don't want to talkabout their feelings, they want to drawand things like that.
So let's go and have a lookaround the rest of it.
So tell me a little bit aboutwhat this room is going to be.
Yeah.This is our grief sensory room.
So one of our things like you already mentioned, childrenexpress themselves differently.
And they need those spacesto express themselves, not to talk about it necessarilysome, but to express it.
So this is our sensory room.
This will be for those kiddoswho get overstimulated, who need a quiet space toto sit, to be with their grief, to listen to music.
We'll have colorful lights,a space to just be still.
And from here,we're going to the very opposite of what this is, which is a roomthat needs padded walls.
Yeah, which is probably the room that I need to go in for a whilehere.
So let's go to that one next.
So all right.
So we went from the sensory roominto the Dave room here you can probably hear the sound.
Got a little echoey.So it's a little extra noisy without all the furniturein here.
Yeah.
It'sokay but yeah you've got what.
So is this forjust high energy kids?
They can let out some steamand just, this is called the Volcano Roombecause sometimes our grief erupts.
Yes.Like a volcano.
Absolutely.
And we need a spaceto do that safely.
And so when the kids come inhere, we have some foam furniturebeing donated that they can buildcastles with.
They can throw it, they can jump into,we have a crash pad coming so they can justthrow their body down.
But the idea is,let's physically get that out so that it's not pent upinside of us.
Like even though this spacewas donated for a dollar, you still have a lotof operating costs that you're goingto have to fundraise every year.
What have you created?
One of those rooms where adultscan come in and like smash the what are theycalled, a rage room?
Great.
Hey, I mean,I feel like we have that.
Well, I mean, when it's notbeing used by kids, I feel like you could createa rage room for Dustin's place.
And all the funds for the ragego towards the like.
I'm just saying, I I've thoughtabout it myself as an office.
My office is down the hall,but like, how many days we're going to be herein the afternoon?
Well, I just think a lot of peoplewould avail of a rage room.
Okay, we need thisfor fighting for life.
Sometimes I'll check with my insurance companyand see where that goes.
All right.
Yeah, exactly.I never thought of that.
Of course, insurance alwayshas to ruin everything now.
All right,we're going to have a look at one of the creative rooms,the art room next here as well, which I'mhappy to see as well.
Awesome.
So this is, the art room?
Yes, this.
It'll be our art studiowhere we can get a little messy.
Yeah, I like it.
As you said, messy is the word.
Messy is the word for grief,you know?
And, I always think about whenwhen people say about, like, Dustin's place,what it is that you do, we can say it's no cost.
Grief support, peer to peer.
Well,I think what is really going on is children have an opportunity that their grief doesn'thave to define their future.
Oh, I love that.
Yeah.
So this is justhow you do it.
Yes.
But what's really going on is that children can grow upto have healthy relationships, that their whole lifeis not defined by their loss.
Yeah.
And that's not to say that everyoneto still be a huge part of it, but that is just not a mountainthat they can't get over.
Yes, exactly.
So that'swhat's really going on here.
You know, it's not art.
Yeah.
Art isjust a way to get exactly.
And then learning coping skills for all kinds of obstaclesthey may face in the future.
So they're learninghow to express themselves.
Yeah.
When times get hardin their life.
So when do your programstart back here.
When can people get involvedor is there a sign up?
Is there a to or how do peopleeven get in touch?
If somebody is watching and they do believe that theyneed to avail of your services, what's the process?
So we do all of ourregistrations via the phone.
Okay.
There is no waitlistsand there's no cost.
Group nights will start here in our new spaceon September 22nd.
And we meet every other Mondaynight.
And then follow uson social media, because one of the thingsthat we're really going to do is bring other opportunitiesto express grief.
So at the end of this month,we have a teen workshop for our writing workshopfor teenagers.
We'll have some suicideawareness events that are happening.
And so follow us on Facebook,Instagram, give us a call.
Get connected.
There's no cost for youto attend, but there is a cost.
So thank you for supportingDustin's place.
Thank you for everything thatyou're done for this I love.
You're like a firecracker.
I mean, you just like, want tobreak down walls and break down.
I just love it.
And I don't knowif that's a good analogy.
I don't know if a firecrackerhas ever broken down a wall, but I just,you know, to me, like, I've a two year old daughter, I would want her to look upto a woman like you who sees an opportunityand breaks down the barriers for peopleand just gets after it, and you just do itin such a nice way that you're such a nice person, but yet you're so ambitiousand I just find it to be.
I just love everythingabout how you operate.
So thank youso much for showing me around.
Thank you.
And thank you guys for comingback.
It's been a couple of yearsand it's great to see you again.
Oh, and I want her to look aftermy wife as well just in case you see this okay.
So I meanI look up to your wife, so.
Me too, which is standingover me wacking me.
Thankyou so much for joining us.
Don't forget to head overto the grand opening for Ruby's Remnantsand more happening this Saturday from 12 to 4 at LaSalle Academyin South Bend.
We'll see you next week.
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