SHARON: ANYTHING I CAN DRILL A HOLE IN THE BOTTOM CAN BECOME A PLANTER.

BOB: RHODODENDRONS ARE GREAT FOR WILDLIFE, DEB: TIGERS LATINOS, BUMBLEBEES.

>> THIS WAS JUST A HAYFIELD.

>> DEADHEADING GIVES YOU THAT INNER PEACE, IF IT'S A BAD DAY, GET OUT IN THE GARDEN.

SHARON: HELLO, AND WELCOME TO GREAT GARDENING.

I'M YOUR HOST SHARON YUNG.

TONIGHT WE HAVE A SPECIAL HOUR-LONG EPISODE.

THE START OF FALL IS ALMOST HERE, AND WE'RE READY TO CELEBRATE WITH ALL OF OUR VIEWERS.

AS USUAL WE HAVE OF OUR GARDEN EXPERTS WITH US.

THEY ARE HORTICULTURALIST AND EDUCATOR BOB OLEN, AND GARDEN PROFESSIONAL DEB BYRNS ERICKSON.

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM GARDENERS ACROSS THE REGION WHO HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OUR EXPERTS.

PHONE VOLUNTEERS ARE HERE TO RECIEVE YOUR QUESTIONS THIS EVENING.

CALL LOCALLY OR TOLL FREE 218-788-2847 OR 877-307-8762 OR E-MAIL US AT ASK@PBSNORTH.ORG.

LET'S BEGIN TONIGHT'S SHOW WITH A GARDEN TOUR.

IN 2022, WE VISITED THE GARDENS OF DOUG MCLELLAN.

HE'S A GARDENER AND GROWER WHO OWNS A LARGE SPACE, WITH OPPORTUNITIIES TO GROW A BOUNTIFUL VEGETABLE HARVEST DURING THE FALL.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK!

>> THIS IS WHAT I DID DURING COVID.

THERE IS SEVEN SEPARATE RAISED BED GARDENS, ALL IN VARIOUS SHAPES.

AS YOU CAN TELL, EVERYTHING SLIPS TO THE SOUTH, SO WHEN WE WERE SENDING EACH BOX WE HAD TWO LASER LEVEL IT AND KEEP IT STEP DOWN SO THAT EVERYTHING WAS SYMMETRICAL GOING UPHILL.

I GOT THE TAMARAC LUMBER RUST FROM A SAWMILL.

I DO WOODWORKING ON THE SIDE, ALL OF THE PLANE SHAVINGS AND SAWDUST FROM THE WOODSHOP FIND THEIR WAY INTO THE WALKING PATHS.

YOU NAME IT, WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.

IN THIS CORNER BOX THIS YEAR WE HAVE, SPACED TOMATOES, AND HEIRLOOM THAT WE USE FOR MAKING SPAGHETTI SAUCE, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE TO CHANGE YOUR TO YOUR WHERE WE GROW THEM BECAUSE YOU NEED TO ROTATE -- YEAR-TO-YEAR WHERE YOU GROW THEM SO YOU KEEP DISEASES OUT OF THE SOIL.

THIS IS DAILY FOR MAKING PICKLES.

I HAVE A PINK ONION, I BOUGHT IT ON A WHIM HERE.

AND THEY'RE DOING GREAT.

WE CAN POLICE OUT AT ANY TIME AND START EATING THEM.

I SAW THIS IN A SEED CATALOG AND I JUST THOUGHT A PINK ONION, WHY NOT TRY.

WE HAVE GOT SOME REALLY SPICY PEPPERS GOING IN HERE.

HERE IS THE OTHER VARIETY OF CAYENNE PEPPER THAT WE HAVE, THIS ONE IS STARTING TO TURN.

THESE ARE YUGOSLAVIAN CAYENNE, THE CULTIVAR FOR THOSE.

THESE ARE GREEN BEANS.

WHICH ARE READY TO PICK.

SO I NEED TO GET OUT HERE AND DO SOMETHING.

THERE ARE DAYS AND DAYS OF HARVESTING IN HERE IF YOU HAD TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE.

TYPICALLY WE TRY TO DO A LITTLE BIT AT A TIME.

GO IN AND PICK A HANDFUL OF ONIONS AT THE NEXT DAY PICK SOME CARROTS AND THE NEXT DAY PICK UP SOME POTATOES.

JUST KNOWING WHERE YOUR FOOD COMES FROM, HAVING THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR FOOD WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR IT FROM THE TIME IT WAS A SEED TO THE TIME THAT IT WAS UNDERPLAYED IS COOL.

-- ON YOUR PLATE IS COOL.

WE'LL HAVE MORE GARDEN TOURS TONIGHT, AND BOB AND DEB WILL SHARE GARDENING TIPS AND TRICKS SO STAY TUNED!

BUT FOR NOW, LET'S GET TO SOME QUESTIONS!

ASKS HOW CAN I GET RID OF KEEP -- CREEPING BELLFLOWER IN MY PERENNIALS?

BOB: YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU HAVE UP RADIO, OFTEN WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS LIST YOUR FAVORITE FLOWERING PLANT -- PERENNIALS AND ELIMINATE ALL WE COMPETITION EVERY PLANT.

IT COULD BE NOW -- DONE NOW OR NEXT SPRING, IT MIGHT BE EASIER NOW IF YOU USE A CHEMICAL HERBICIDE TO GET RID OF THE WEEDS.

CLIFF THEM, GET RID OF THE WEEDS, DIG THEM OUT IF YOU HAVE TO, GET THEM ALL.

STAY WITH IT.

SHARON: SHE SHARON: SHOULD I USE SEIZURE -- CEDAR MULCH AROUND MY SAPLINGS OR PURCHASE LIQUID FOOD?

BOB: NO FERTILITY RIGHT NOW THIS TIME OF YEAR.

ANYBODY, A PLANT LIKE THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A LOT OF FERTILITY, IF YOU CAN PLANTED IT WILL BE THERE BUT BREAK, MULCH IS FINE BUT NEVER UP AGAINST THE MARK OF THESE SEEDLINGS.

WE DON'T WANT ANYMORE STRAIGHT ALL.

SHARON: GEORGIA ASKS HOW CAN I GET MY HYDRANGEA TO FLOWER?

DEB: WHAT VARIETY IS THE HYDRANGEA, AND IF IT IS -- BOB: DO WE WANT TO CALL IT?

THE ONE THAT KIND OF SET THE HYDRANGEA CRAZE WAS ENDLESS SUMMER.

DEB: OR ENDLESS BUMMER.

BOB: THAT ONE IS PART OF A SERIES, AND SOME OF THEM FLOWER MORE RELIABLY.

AND THIS SUMMER, WHAT I FOUND WITH ENDLESS SUMMER IS THAT YOU -- IF YOU CANNOT GET IT TO BLOOM, MOVE IT TO A LESS DESIRABLE LOCATION.

I MOVED ONE THAT WAS NOT FLOWERING INTO A POOR SPOT WITH POOR SOIL AND LESSON AND IT STARTED TO FLOWER.

REMEMBER THAT THE FLOWERING MECHANISM IS A SURVIVAL MECHANISM, THAT IS ONE THING THAT THEY MIGHT TRY, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE STRESS ON THAT PARTICULAR VARIETY OR TRY SOME NEW VARIETIES.

>> MAKE IT FEEL LIKE IT IS DYING SO THAT HAS TO SEND SOME SEEDS OUT.

SHARON: SHIRLEY IT BLUE ANNUAL BATCH BUNDLE FLOWERS AND PUT THEM IN A VASE OF WATER.

AFTER A FEW DAYS, THEY TURNED WHITE.

WHAT CAUSED THIS?

BOB: THEY ARE ALREADY PICKED, AND THIS IS THE UNDERLYING TISSUE.

SHE JUST LOST THE BLUE CHEMICALS THERE.

THOSE ARE LESS STABLE PIGMENTS THAN THE SKELETON UNDERNEATH, THAT'S WHAT SHE'S SEEING.

SHARON: NATALIE ON INSTAGRAM ASK SHOULD I TRIM NEW GROWTH ON MY RASPBERRY PLANTS TO PREVENT IT FROM OVER GROWING?

BOB: THIS IS CHANGING ADVICE.

I WOULD ALWAYS SAY LET THEM GET THROUGH THE WINTER AND THEN YOU COULD PRUNE THEM BACK.

BUT THERE WAS WORK OUT OF NORSE FARMS, AND THEY HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT BY PRUNING THIS TIME OF YEAR IF THERE IS DIFFERENCE IT WILL PRINT IT IN, AND THAT WILL SET UP FOR NEXT YEAR.

IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PRUNING, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TAKING BACK JUST THE TIP, BECAUSE THAT IS THE FLOOR THAT IS GOING TO SET FRUIT FOR NEXT YEAR.

DEB: YOU WILL SET MORE FLOWER BUDS.

SHARON: SUPER MISS KONTA AND IT IS SAYING THAT HER BEATS ARE BEING CHEWED ON.

CAN YOU TELL ME BY WHAT AND WHAT I CAN DO ABOUT IT?

BOB: I SHARE YOUR PAIN, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT VERY SAME EXPERIENCE.

MORE THAN LIKELY, IT IS FIELD MICE.

AND, YOU KNOW, A REAL TYPE HARDWARE CLOTH FENCE, THEY CAN GET THROUGH CHICKEN WIRE, IT'S REAL TIGHT, OR YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GET THEM WITH SPRING TRAPS.

BUT ALONG THE GROUND THAT HIS FIELD MICE.

SHARON: EDNA IN DULUTH IS TAKING HER CALLA LILIES OUT OF THE WINTER, HOW SHOULD SHE DO THEM UP?

DEB: I PRESUME THAT SHE IS JUST GOING TO TRY THEM.

WE CAN, WE SOMETIMES LEAVE THEM IN A CONTAINER FOR THE WINTER WITH SOIL ON THEM TO GET THEM STARTED EARLIER IN THE SPRING.

BUT YOU CAN TAKE THEM OUT, A LOT OF PEOPLE CLEAN THEM UP REALLY WELL, LAY THEM OUT, PUT A LITTLE BIT OF SOIL OR PERLITE OR PETE MOSS ON THEM TO HOLD A LITTLE BIT OF MOISTURE, BUT THEN YOU CAN ALSO LEAVE THEM IN THE SOIL IN A CONTAINER AND RUN THEM PRETTY DRY.

THEY WANT ABOUT 45-50 DEGREES, JUST TO BOKO UP A LITTLE BIT.

AND YOU CANNOT LET THEM GET MOIST.

IF THE SOIL -- SOIL STARTS TO SEPARATE YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF MOISTURE TO KEEP IT IN THERE, BUT IF THEY START TO ROT OR GET MOLD OR ANYTHING SHOWS UP YOU HAVE TO PULL THAT ONE OUT OTHERWISE JUST CHECK ON THEM EVERY COUPLE WEEKS.

SHARON: I'M ON THE PLANET FOR MOTHER'S DAY.

HOW DID THEY KEEP IT GOING?

-- A MUM PLANT MOTHER'S DAY, HOW DID THEY KEEP GOING?

DEB: YOU HAVE TO CUT THEM BACK SO THAT THEY BLOOM FOR THE FALL.

BOB: IF YOU PUT IT IN THE GROUND, YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT IS HEARTY WORK KEEP IT IN WITH GOOD STRAW, AND A LOT OF WHAT IS SOLD COMMERCIALLY FOR THESE PLANTS IS NOT NECESSARILY WHETHER HEARTY.

DEB: MOST ARE NOT FOR MOTHER'S DAY BECAUSE THEY WANT THAT BLOOM TIME.

SHARON: TOM IS ASKING ABOUT GARLIC.

HOW DO YOU PRINT IT AND ISIT BEST IN THE SPRING OR THE FALL?

BOB: GREAT QUESTION.

OCTOBER 15, DON'T GO BEFORE THAT, YOU CAN GO AFTER THAT, BUT YOU DEFINITELY PLANT THE INDIVIDUAL CLOSE IN THE FALL, PLANT THEM IN THE SPRING, AND YOU WILL GET THE BALL THAT REALLY SIZES UP FOR YOU.

SHARON: BOB, YOU WANTED TO GIVE US A SEASON RECAP?

BOB: WHAT YEAR THAT WAS, WE HAD SO MUCH SUCCESS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, WE HAD RECORD SNOWFALL IS COMING TO THE WINTER SEASON, AND WE WENT EXTREMELY DRY IN THE MONTHS OF MAY AND JUNE, TWO OF THE DRIEST MONTHS EVER IN THE SPRING WHEN WE NEEDED MOISTURE FOR GERMINATION PARTICULARLY IF YOUR DIRECT SEATING.

IT IS A REMARKABLE YEAR, REMARKABLY, WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD WAS REALLY SUFFERING ALL THE HEAT, WE HAD VERY MODERATE TEMPERATURES, NIGHT AND DAY WAS COOLER THAN AVERAGE BUT WE HAVE ALL THIS BRIGHT SUNSHINE, AND IF YOU HAD THE WATER, AND MOST WERE NOT FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET TYPE -- THE RIGHT BRAIN, -- RAIN, WE GOT TREMENDOUS GROWTH.

I HAD AT HEAD OF LETTUCE WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT HEAD OF LETTUCE AND WE HAVE NOT HAD LEAF LETTUCE LIKE THAT, THAT HUGE SIZE, BEATS, EVERYTHING.

IF WE HAVE IGNORED -- AND OF MOISTURE THERE, AND USUALLY YOU HAD TO SUPPLEMENT IT, IT WAS INCREDIBLE BECAUSE WE HAD WARM TEMPERATURES BUT NOT EXTREMES.

WE HAD 75 DEGREES WHICH WAS JUST ABOUT PERFECT GROWING CONDITIONS.

OF COURSE WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE MOISTURE NOW AND WE ARE STILL IN A DEFICIT.

THERE'S THE DROP MAP, AND MANY OF OUR VIEWERS ARE DOWN THERE IN THAT HOT ZONE AND CARLTON COUNTY, THE REAL EPICENTER.

EVERYTHING IS IN DROUGHT UNTIL THIS LAST RAIN AND IT WAS EXTREMELY DRY DOWN THERE.

PEOPLE KNOW WHAT GRASSHOPPERS CAN DO IN THOSE AREAS BECAUSE THEY TOOK OVER IN SOME AREAS WHERE THERE WAS STILL PASTOR.

THAT HAS MODERATED A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE COULD STILL USE MOISTURE PRIOR TO PRECEPTS, SO THAT WE GET THAT UNDERLYING MOISTURE DON'T IN THE SULFUR PROFILE.

-- GOLDMAN IN THE SULFUR -- SOIL PROFILE.

SHARON: YOU WROTE IT TO TALK ABOUT DEHYDRATION, DEB -- YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT DEHYDRATION, DEB?

DEB: WHAT IT UNDER -- UNBELIEVABLE PEPPER YOU THIS YEAR.

WHAT WE DO A LOT OF, BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF PURPOSES HERE, IS WE HAD DEHYDRATED.

THIS DEHYDRATOR IS INEXPENSIVE, AND I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE ALMOST GOING TO GET YOUR VALUE OF DEHYDRATED VEGETABLES OUT OF THAT FIRST USE.

YOU CAN START WITH A LESS EXPENSIVE ONE AND THEY ALL HAVE TEMPERATURE AND TIME AND OTHERWISE THIS IS A NICER, MORE BUSH WANT DEHYDRATOR -- BARGE WALK DEHYDRATOR, IT'S GREAT, IT HAS A LOT OF RACKS IN THERE ALREADY AND YOU CAN MAKE YOGURT IN IT.

TO GET STARTED ON DEHYDRATING ALL OF THESE VEGETABLES, YOU WATCH THEM -- WATCH THEM COME TAKE OUT THE STEMS, AND I RUN MY -- THIS IS A HEALTH KICK TOMATO, I RAN IT THROUGH A CUISINART OR A FOOD PROCESSOR AND I JUST CUT IT OUT, PUT IT DOWN, RUN IT THROUGH, THAT IS WHAT THE TRAIN LOOKS LIKE THERE, THAT'S RUNNING THROUGH A DEHYDRATOR OR CUISINART FOOD PROCESSOR, AND THE NEXT ONE IS WHEN YOU HANDCUFF THEM, AND THAT'S FANTASTIC, BUT THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME, 4-5 TIMES LONGER TO DO THE HAND CUTTING, AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR ACCURATE ON ALL YOUR SLICES.

WHEN YOU BUILD A DEHYDRATOR, THAT ONE HAS PEPPERS.

SEPARATE OUT YOUR VEGETABLES INTO DIFFERENT DEHYDRATORS, AND GET YOURSELF A GOOD DEHYDRATOR BOOK, OR FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE DEHYDRATOR BECAUSE THESE NEW ONES ALL COME WITH THE BOOK AND TELL YOU WHAT TEMPERATURE TO RUN THE MAP, HOW LONG, AND YOU CAN GET REALLY GOOD DEHYDRATING BOOKS THAT WILL GIVE YOU RECIPES AND DIFFERENT THINGS THAT YOU CAN GO BY, AND THEY CAN COMMENT WITH AN ENTIRE DEHYDRATOR OF TOMATOES AND PEPPERS AND ONIONS.

YOU CAN TAKE THESE AND COMBINE THEM WITH YOUR RATIO AND MAKE THE SALSA AND JUST ADD HOT WATER TO.

-- TO IT.

IT'S SO VERSATILE AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PRESSURE CANNING OR HOT WATER BATHS OR ABOUT BOTULISM.

IT'S REALLY EASY AND EFFECTIVE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A TON OF PROBLEMS.

BOB: HAVING WORKED OUT IN THE FIELD, I KNOW A LOT ABOUT DEHYDRATION.

IT'S GOOD ADVICE.

SHARON: BOB, I WANT YOU TO TALK ABOUT SPRING BULBS.

BOB: IT'S THAT TIME, WE MENTIONED WITH GARLIC THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GO TOO EARLY, NOT BEFORE OCTOBER 15, AND WE HAVE ALL OF THESE, FULL CHOICES OUT THERE.

RATHER THAN PLANTING AND WAITING JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER TO PUT THEM IN THE GROUND, YOU WANT TO MAKES THAT YOU HAVE A GOOD SPOT FOR THEM.

LET'S GET GOOD DRAINAGE AND WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE MEETING ALL OF THOSE WEEDS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE IN A FLOWER BED, LET'S GET RID OF THAT BEFORE WE PLANT OUR BULBS.

WE ARE GOING TO BE PLANTING MID-LATE OCTOBER AND BEFORE THE GROUND FREEZES IF YOU CANNOT GET IT IN MID OCTOBER, MID OCTOBER IS DESIRABLE.

AND WE LOOKED AT DEATH, THE HYPO -- 2-5 TIMES THE HEIGHT OF THE BALL WOULD BE PERFECT, SIX INCHES DEEP FOR THE LARGER BULBS, AND PLANT WITH THE TIP UP, BECAUSE WE SEE THEM POINTED ALL THE WAY UP AND THAT HAS TO FIGHT TO GET UP, GET THEM PLANTED, COVER WITH THAT HARVARD CLOTH SO YOU HAVE A TIGHT MESH SO THAT THE SQUIRRELS CAN'T GET AT THEM.

AND IT'S AMOUNT -- NOT A BAD IDEA TO MULCH TENDER BULBS.

WE ALSO HAD GREAT COVER MATERIAL, BUT COLD TEMPERATURES, NO PROTECTION, MANY OF THESE CAN BE VULNERABLE, GET THEM COVERED STRONG.

WE JUST GOT SOME TREMENDOUS BULBS COMING UP, THESE WILL BE SHARED AT THE SAME COUNTY MASTER GARDENER FULL ASPHALT BALD SALE.

-- FOLLOW BOLD SNOW.

THIS IS WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, PINK UNDINE -- ONIONS.

LARGE HEADS, IT INCHES ACROSS AND THIS IS ONE CALLED BLUE MELODY, KIND OF INTERESTING AND UNIQUE, SPRING BALL.

IT WILL NATURALIZE IN PARTICULAR LOCATIONS AND SPREAD FOR YOU, IT'S NOT A ONE AND DONE KIND OF PLANT, IT WILL ACTUALLY MOVE AND SPREAD.

THEN WE HAVE A FEW OTHERS, THIS IS UP YOU NEED TO LOOK, -- THIS IS A PO KNEE TULIP, THIS IS ONE CALLED ANGELIQUE, AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL, IT LOOKS A LOT LIKE THAT FLOWER, AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OTHER HERE IS FOR YOU.

THIS IS ONE THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL AND FRILLY LAVENDER, THAT ARE SO MANY REALLY BEAUTIFUL NEW TUNEUPS AVAILABLE, THIS IS 1 -- TWO LIPS AVAILABLE, THIS IS ONE LIKE CALLED CARNIVAL.

THERE UNIQUE VARIETIES AVAILABLE LOCALLY.

SHARON: BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH QUESTIONS WE WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SHARE WITH YOU, OUR VIEWERS, HOW YOU CAN KEEP UP WITH GREAT GARDENING THOUGHOUT THE FALL AND WINTER THROUGH OUR GREAT GARDENING YOUTUBE CHANNEL.

>> GREAT GARDENING WILL RETURN IN 2024, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO MISS OUT ON OUR SHOW UNTIL THEN.

THE GREAT GARDENING YOUTUBE CHANNEL IS A GREAT RESOURCE TO VISIT HIGHLIGHTS FROM PAST YEARS OF THE SHOW.

YOU WILL FIND FULL EPISODES TO REWATCH AND GORGEOUS GARDEN TOURS TO GRAB YOUR INTEREST.

PLUS, OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL HAS WEB EXCLUSIVE MOMENTS SUCH AS HOW TO GET RID OF CREEPING CHARLIE AND CARE FOR THE ARMIES -- PEOJNIES.

VISIT YOUTUBE.COM/GREAT GARDENING AND SUBSCRIBED TO KEEP UP TO DATE WITH A VARIETY OF VIDEOS.

SHARON LATER TONIGHT, DEB WILL : TELL US ABOUT SUCCULENTS AND HOUSEPLANTS, WHILE BOB WILL ENLIGHTEN US WITH INFORMATION ABOUT WINTER SQUASHES.

BUT FOR NOW, LET'S GET BACK TO MORE QUESTIONS!

SEE AND -- PATTY EMAILED AND ASKED WHY HER HONEY CRISP APPLES HAVE DARK STRIATIONS.

BOB: THAT IS KIND OF UNUSUAL.

I WOULD SUSPECT MAGGOTS, THAT'S THE OXIDIZED TUNNEL THAT A FLY COMES ALONG, LASER TAG, THE EGG HATCHES, THE LARVAE WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH AND EXITS WITH THAT TOTAL OXIDIZING.

THOSE STRIATIONS ARE TYPICALLY APPLE MAGGOT.

THAT IS TYPICAL WITH LOCALLY PRODUCED AFTER -- APPLES.

GOING THROUGH A PESTICIDE REGIMENT IS PRETTY DIFFICULT.

YOU COULD TRY POLY BAGS ON WHAT YOU CAN REACH FOR DESSERT QUALITY, YOU COULD CERTAINLY PROCESS APPLESAUCE OUT OF THIS WITH NO INSECT PROBLEMS.

NO INSECT THERE, THIS IS JUST THE TUNNEL THAT HAS OXIDIZED.

SHARON: >> VERY PESKY.

GRAPEVINE LEAVES HAVE HOLES ON THE LEAVES THAT LOOK LIKE LACE.

SHE IS WONDERING HOW TO TREAT THIS.

BOB: I REALLY THINK THAT IS PROBABLY A LEAF MINOR.

THERE IS A GROUP OF INSECTS THAT WILL EAT OUT ALL OF THE TISSUE BETWEEN THE PALISADE TISSUE OF THE BELIEF ITSELF.

AT THIS POINT THE INSECT IS GONE AND NOTHING IS TO WORRY ABOUT.

IF YOU'VE LOST 15% OF THE TISSUE, I WOULD NOT BE CONCERNED.

THE IMPLANT -- APPLICATION OF INSECTICIDE WOULD HAVE TO GO ON QUITE A BIT OVER THE YEAR WHEN THE ADULT WAS LAYING EGGS BEFORE THE LARVA COULD GET IN.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, THE GRAPES WILL BE JUST FINE.

SHARON: KIERAN IS ASKING HOW TO REMOVE CREEPING CHARLIE FROM GOING INTO THE LAWN AND FORCE.

BOB: PROBLEM WITH CREEPING CHARLIE IS THAT IT'S CREPT ALONG AND IT'S VERY AGGRESSIVE.

AND IT DOESN'T REALLY DO MUCH FOR POLLINATORS.

THEY DON'T LIKE THOSE FLOWERS, IT'S GOT LIMITED VALUE.

THERE ARE HERBICIDES THAT CAN BE USED, THIS IS THE TIME TO DO THAT AND THERE ARE A NUMBER LABELED FOR YOU.

EVEN TAKING IS JUST NOT EVEN PRACTICAL, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CONSIDER THE USE OF AN APPROVED, LABELED HERBICIDE AND IT WILL HAVE GREATER EFFECT THIS TIME OF YEAR.

AND CORRECT THE UNDERLYING CONDITIONS, POOR SHADE AND DRAINAGE, IT'S DESIGNED TO SURVIVE.

YOU CAN ELIMINATE THEM AND SO THAT IT DOES NOT RECUR YOU HAVE TO WORK AT CHANGING THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS, MORE SUNLIGHT, TAKE DOWN A TREE, DO PRUNING, GET SUNLIGHT, DRY THINGS OUT.

SHARON: MICHELLE FROM HIBBING WANTS TO KNOW WHAT SHE CAN ADD TO THE SOIL TO GROW FINO BULB, WHICH IS GOING BIG AND TALL BUT NOT GROWING.

DEB: FENNEL.

THERE IS SOME THAT YOU COULD PUT ON THE BOWL JUST FOR SEEDS, AND IT COULD BE THE VARIETY THAT I THINK SHE IS EXPENSIVE OR DIFFICULTY WITH.

IT SEEMS TO ME, THAT YOU SHOULD GET A BALL IF IT IS A BOLD PRODUCING FENNEL.

BOB: BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE NITROGEN.

MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT FERTILIZING WITH 10-10-10, SHOULD THE POTASSIUM LEVELS DEVELOPED FOR STEM TISSUE DEVELOPING.

A CAREFUL OF THE NITROGEN AND TAKE A TEST FOR THAT.

SHARON: DAN FROM TOULOUSE HAS A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION, PRUNING RASPBERRIES.

JUNE BERRIES AND EVER BERRIES, IS THERE A DIFFERENCE IN PRUNING INSTRUCTIONS?

DEB: JIMMY STRAWBERRIES BOB: NOW.

I THINK HERE -- SHOULD BE STRAWBERRIES.

BOB: AND ALL THE FALL CROP OF COURSE, YOU ARE FLOWERING CHEMO FLOWER IN THE FALL AND ONCE THAT -- WHEN MEDFORD IS SAID YOU CAN GET THE REST OF THAT BACK.

BECAUSE A FALL PAIRING RASPBERRY GROWS 14 MINUTES AND STARTS SETTING THROUGH.

IF WE HAVE ENOUGH SEASON WE RIPEN THE FRUIT AND IF WE DON'T RIPEN IN THE FALL WE FOLLOW-UP NEXT JUNE OR NEXT SPRING.

WATCH IT, AND AT THE FRONT LINE, CUT IT BACK FROM THE FALL AT THAT POINT, AND THAT SAME FRUITING CANE WILL FINISH OFF NEXT SPRING.

SHARON: GARY AND FLOODWOOD HAS TO HONEY CRISP APPLE TREES WITH A SWEET SIXTEEN IN BETWEEN AS A POLLINATOR.

HE PRUNES LAST SUMMER AND ONLY GOT SEVEN APPLES ON ONE HONEY CRISP TREE.

DEB: DURING THE SUMMER HE PRUNES.

THERE'S THE ISSUE, I THINK.

BOB: I THINK, YES.

WE DON'T PRUNING DURING THE SUMMER, SUMMER PRUNING RESTRICTS SOME OF THE GROWTH.

IT MIGHT JUST BE THIS ALTERNATE BEARING HAPPENING UNLESS YOU EVEN THE FRUIT OUT, HEAVY FRUIT HERE FOR A LOT OF APPLES, HE DID NOT TAKE THE APPLES OFF, EXPECT EXTRALIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO SEEING FLOWER BUDS FOR NEXT YEAR, A HEAVY CROP THIS YEAR WITHOUT REDUCING FRUIT, MEANS UNLIKE CROP NEXT YEAR AND VICE VERSA.

TRY TO THIN DOWN NEAR TREES DURING THE HEAVY YEAR EARLY IN THE SEASON, I WOULD NOT DO IT NOW, IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

THAT WILL EVEN OUT THE CROP.

I THINK IT IS A BEARING HABIT MORE THAN ANYTHING, AND ALSO, MAYBE THE TIMING.

SHARON: AND SEEKING HELP AND HAS POTTED DAHLIAS FOR THE FIRST TIME -- NANCY HAS EMAILED AND HAS POTTED DAHLIAS FOR THE FIRST TIME.

WHAT SHOULD SHE DO?

DEB: SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO TAKE THEM OUT OF THE CONTAINERS AGAIN, THEY SHOULD BE BULKING UP RIGHT NOW, AND THE SWALLOW THE CONTAINER FOR A DAHLIA, THE BIGGER THE BULB WANTS TO BULK.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT WE HAVE 20 ONES THAT WANT TO BULB AND POKE UP TO THE EDGE OF THE CONTAINER.

THEY SHOULD BE POKING NOW, WHERE WAS SHE AT?

-- BALL BANG NOW, WHERE WAS SHE AT?

-- BOLD BANG -- BULBING.

IF SHE GETS A COUPLE FROSTS, THAT'S GREAT AS WELL, SHE JUST WANTS TO WATCH THEM THAT THEY DO NOT GET TOO WET WHEN THEY ARE SETTING THE BULBS BECAUSE YOU COULD LOSE THEM IF THEY ARE COLD AND WET, YOU CAN PULL THEM WHEREVER SHE IS GOING TO PUT THEM AND SHE CAN START TO DRY THEM BACK AND NOT LET THEM GET TOO WET.

BOB: WE HAD ALL OF THESE DRY CONDITIONS BUT WE KNOW THAT THIS WEATHER CAN CHANGE AND I WOULD NOT BE AT ALL SURPRISED IF WE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF MOISTURE, BEING CAREFUL THAT WAY IS A GOOD IDEA.

SHARON: THANK YOU, BOB AND DEB, LET'S HEAD BACK TO THE GARDEN OF DOUG MCCLELLAN, WITH MORE TO SHOW UP, -- SHOP -- SHOW OFF.

>> WE MOVED HERE IN DECEMBER OF 2000.

EVERYTHING HERE IS ALL MY FAMILIES DOING, MY WIFE, MY KIDS.

EVERYBODY.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN ABUNDANCE ARE A LOT OF NATIVE SPECIES OF PLANTS FOR MINNESOTA, SPECIFICALLY BERRIES.

WE HAVE RASPBERRIES AND BLUEBERRIES AND BLACKBERRIES, WE ALSO HAVE THE ORCHARD OUT HERE.

EVERYTHING IS ON A HILL.

SO THAT HAS BEEN A BIG CHALLENGE.

ALSO THE WILDLIFE, TRYING TO HAVE A BALANCE BETWEEN?

RABBITS AND DEER WANT THEIR SHARE.

THIS IS THE OLDEST TREE OUT HERE AT THE ORCHARD.

SOME CRISP PAIR, A UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA -- UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA CULTIVAR, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE, IT'S FULL OF PEARS, AND PEARS DO GROW IN NORTHERN MINNESOTA.

FOR ANYBODY OUT THERE THAT WANTS TO DO THIS, IT'S COMPLETELY WITHIN YOUR GRASP.

IN ORDER TO KEEP THE SAPLINGS ARE YOUNG, BY THE WILDLIFE, WE PUT THEM IN TREE TUBES THAT PREVENT THE RABBITS AND THE DEER FROM CHEWING ON THEM AND GIVES THEM A LAYER OF PROTECTION AS THE EIGHT GET BIG ENOUGH TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES.

THIS IS KIND OF NEAT, A BUTTERFLY SANCTUARY WHERE WE LET MILKWEED RUN CRAZY AND THIS IS A GOOD SPOT FOR MONARCHS TO LAY THEIR -- TO HAVE THE CATERPILLARS MUNCH ON IT, AND EVERY SUMMER OR EVERY YEAR, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO SEE SEVERAL OF THEM HERE AT ONE TIME.

THIS AREA HERE IS A PATCH OF CUP PLANTS THAT BE PLANTED.

THIS IS ANOTHER MINNESOTA NATIVE IN THE SUNFLOWER FAMILY, BUT WHAT MAKES THIS INTERESTING IS THE WAY THAT IT GROWS WHERE THE LEAVES ATTACHED TO THE STOCK, IT MAKES A COP.

-- COP.

IT HOLDS WATER IN EACH ONE OF THESE.

WE NEEDED A WAY FOR THE BEES TO HAVE ACCESS TO WATER AND RUNNING OUT HERE WITH WATER ALL THE TIME WAS A DRAG.

BY PLANTING THESE TOP PLANTS HERE -- CUP PLANTS HERE, IT ALLOWS THE BEES TO DRINK WHATEVER THEY WANT, AND THE WATER FILLS UP IN THE CUP.

AND THE BEES CAN JUST LAND ON THE LEAVES AND COME DOWN AND DRINK AT THEIR LEISURE.

AND IT WORKS OUT.

MOTHER NATURE'S WATER FOUNTAIN.

IT'S A GREAT DEAL.

BEES LOVE IT, AND WHEN THE PLANTS FLOWER IN THE FALL IT GIVES THEM ANOTHER SOURCE OF NECTAR.

IT IS A DOUBLE WIN IN THAT SITUATION.

SHARON: GET BACK TO MORE QUESTIONS.

LYNN EMAILED A PHOTO OF HER APPLE TREE AND IS WONDERING WHERE TO TRIM HER DENTIST -- DUCHESS OF OLDENBURG TREE.

BOB: ACTUALLY, THIS IS PRINT OUT PROPERLY.

WE HAVE ONE CENTRAL LEADER AND NICE VERTICALS.

I WOULD NOT BE DOING ANY PRUNING AT THIS POINT.

IF PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW HOW TO PRINT UP THEIR FRUIT TREES, AS THEIR OTHER SHRUBS, I WILL BE DOING AN EDUCATIONAL SESSION AT 11:00 ON OCTOBER 7, NO CHARGE, COME IN AND TALK ABOUT IT.

I HAVE SO MANY EXAMPLES OF IMPROPERLY PRUNED TREES.

THIS HAPPENS, THE BUT THIS IS NOT ONE YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT.

SHARON: CINDY MLS AND WROTE I PLANTED A WHITE MAGNOLIA TREE ABOUT THIS TIME IN MY FRONT YARD.

THE MIDDLE OF THE TRAIN THE -- TREE LEAF, BUT THE REST OF HER DAY.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I SHOULD DO?

SHE PLANTED IT AT ABOUT THIS TIME.

DEB: IT DID NOT SET BUDS.

THIS IS WHEN IT SETS ITS BUDS.

DEPENDING ON WHERE PEOPLE PLANT AT THIS TIME OF YEAR, THEY NEED TO WATER THAT PLANT AND WHAT -- ONE OF THE SOIL AROUND THIS TIME OF YEAR.

THAT SAYS TO ME THAT IT DID NOT SET BUDS, AND SHE COULD CHECK THOSE WAVES AND SEE IF THERE IS ANY GREEN TO THEM, IF SHE WANTED TO, BUT I'M GOING TO GUESS THAT IT WAS MORE OF A FUNCTION OF WHEN SHE PLANTED IT AND HOW.

BOB: AND IT IS VERY YOUNG.

SHARON: SO IT WILL SURVIVE.

BOB: YES YES.

IT CAN BE OPEN IN A VULNERABLE YEAR AWAY FROM THE LAKE BUT ALONG THE LAKE IT WILL DO WELL.

BUT PATIENTS, PATIENTS GRASSHOPPER.

DEB: GOOD STUFF.

SHARON: DAN FROM DULUTH IS WONDERING WHAT TO DO ABOUT POWDERY MILDEW ON THE BILL.

DIFFERENT VARIETIES?

DEB: DON'T KNOW IF THIS OPINION IS EXCEPTED OR NOT, BUT THIS YEAR BEING SUPER DRY TO ME, I FEEL LIKE WE GET MORE POWDERY MILDEW WHEN IT IS DRY AND THOSE LEAVES ARE STRESSED.

THOSE PLANTS ARE STRESSED AND IF YOU ARE NOT WATERING THEM FOR A FEW -- FEAR OF POWDERY MILDEW WE GET MORE OF IT.

I SEE WAY MORE THIS YEAR BECAUSE WITH THE DROUGHT AND THERE ARE VARIETIES THAT ARE MUCH MORE POWDERY MILDEW RESISTANT AND YOU COULD LOOK FOR BETTER VARIETIES, BUT YOU SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID OF WATERING IT ESPECIALLY IF IT IS GETTING TO BE A BIG SIZE.

IF YOU SEE ANY AMOUNT OF POWDERY MILDEW YOU SHOULD LOOK AT HOW DRY IT IS, IF THOSE LEAVES ARE GOING TO WILT.

THE DROUGHT HAS A BIGGER EFFECT THAN IF WE HAD MORE RAIN AT THIS TIME.

BOB: HOT AND DRY IS NOT USUALLY CONDUCIVE TO THIS, BUT POWDERY MILDEW IS THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.

IT'S A BENIGN FUNGUS.

IT DOES NOT GET SYSTEMIC AND IT DOES NOT KILL THE PLANT.

IT PUTS IT IN A LITTLE STRESSED, BUT THE SEASON, MOST OF THE PHOTOSYNTHESIS HAS ALREADY OCCURRED.

CLEAN IT UP, MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE SPORES, GETTING DEEP IN YOUR COMPOST PILE OR GETTING OFF-SITE, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THE SMORES OUT THERE.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT IS ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

THE ONE OPTION IS SHOPPING FOR SOME OF THE NEWER VARIETIES WHICH CLAIM TO BE POWDERY MILDEW.

-- RESISTANT.

SHARON: DARLENE FROM MINNESOTA HAS A RHUBARB THAT LOOKS GREEN AND NEVER WENT TO SEA.

CAN THEY EAT IT OR SHOULD SHE CLEAR OUT AND START FRESH?

BOB: THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WE NEVER LIKED, IT DID GO TO SEED, WHICH IS GREAT, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE AND HARVEST ANY RHUBARB AFTER THE, BECAUSE ALL OF THAT ENERGY GOES INTO THE RITZ TO TAKE US TO THE WINTER.

IF YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THE VARIETY, JUST LET IT GO AND SEE IF IT DOES AS WELL NEXT YEAR.

SHARON: GREAT QUESTIONS, KEEP IT COMING.

DEB, YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SUCCULENTS AND HOUSEPLANTS?

DEB: PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT SHOULD I BRING IN MY PANTS OR KEEP THEM OUTSIDE, THEY WERE THERE ALL SUMMER.

A LOT OF VALUATION GOES INTO WHAT YOU WANT TO SAVE AND WANT TO BRING IN, IF YOU HAVE ROOM OR DO NOT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE BRING IN, AGAIN, ASSESSING, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT JOY, IS IT SOMETHING NOSTALGIC THAT WAS YOUR GRANDMOTHER'S, OR SOMEONE GIFTED YOU AND YOU REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS OK. THOSE CAN BE SAVED, I WOULD SAY ONE HERE THAT I HAVE IS AN EXAMPLE, WE REALLY HAVE TO INSPECT FOR PESTS.

AND DISEASE.

THIS ONE I BROUGHT HAS A LITTLE BIT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE, BUT IT HAS MEALY BUGS.

THOSE ARE TINY WHITE PAPERY INSECTS, EVEN THOUGH YOU CAN'T SEE THEM, IF YOU BROUGHT THEM INTO THE HOUSE, IT WOULD GO CRAZY, IT WOULD DESTROY THE PLANT.

YOU CAN SEE ONE RIGHT THERE, THAT LITTLE WHITE DOT.

SO, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT OFF OR I WOULD CONSIDER NOT WRITING THIS IN.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT -- IT IS A NICE PLANT AND ALL, BUT IT IS READILY AVAILABLE AND ESPECIALLY IF SOMEONE DID NOT GIVE IT TO YOU, SHARON: WHEN YOU DISPOSE RIGHT?

DEB: I WANT.

IF YOU WANT TO SAY THAT THEN YOU REALLY NEED TO -- THEY START LITTLE TINY MEALY BUGS DOWN UNDER HERE.

IF YOU BRING IT IN YOU NEED TO REALLY CLEAN IT, YOU COULD DO SOAP AND WATER, YOU COULD USE A SPRAIN, HORTICULTURAL OIL, BUT THIS IS A CANNED THAT YOU USED TO SPRAY YOUR POTS WITH TWO KEEP THINGS FROM STICKING, YOU CAN ALSO USE THIS SPRAY AS A HORTICULTURAL OIL UNDERNEATH YOUR PLANTS, SPRAY THEM IN THE EVENING, LET IT SUFFOCATE THOSE INSECTS AND IN THE MORNING YOU CAN TAKE SOAP AND WATER MIXTURES, SPRAY THE UNDERNEATH AND GET ALL OF THAT OFF SO IT DOES NOT DAMAGE THE PLANT.

IT'S KIND OF AN EASY HACK AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO FIND HORTICULTURE OIL.

ANOTHER THING THAT YOU CAN ASSESS IS THE BULBS THAT WE WERE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT, DALIA'S.

THIS IS A DALIA, AND NOT LETTING IT GET TOO WET OR DIE DOWN AND TAKE COOL TEMPERATURES AND YOU CAN LEAVE IT IN THE POT.

YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO INSPECT IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO PAST OR DISEASE, BUT IT IS GREAT BECAUSE IT IS TECHNICALLY A TUMOR.

THAT'S GREAT, THIS WOULD BE AN OLD SET -- FALL FASHION YOU WANT TO KEEP, BECAUSE FAMILY COURT -- GLOCKSINIA IS IN THE AFRICAN VIOLET FAMILY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO KEEP IT BUT IT IS ALSO A BALL THAT YOU COMPLETE, JUST DON'T LET IT FREEZE.

DON'T LET THE BALL FREEZE, YOU DO NOT WANT THE DALIA BULB TO FREEZE.

THOSE WHO CAN ASSESS, LIKE THIS ONE IS IN THE PRAYER PLANT FAMILY, IT'S A GOOD HOUSE WHITE, NOT READILY AVAILABLE.

YOU MIGHT WANT TO REALLY INSPECT IT AND MAYBE TAKE IT IN, BUT AGAIN, SOAPING IT DOWN, POSSIBLY USING HORTICULTURE OIL, WIPING THE BLOOD COMPLETELY, YOU CAN ALSO, IF YOU WANT TO BE REALLY THOROUGH, YOU CAN TAKE CUTTINGS, YOU CAN TAKE A BUNCH OF LITTLE CUTTINGS AND INSPECTED, THEN YOU COULD STICK IT INTO A BOWL WITH ITS FRIENDS.

THIS IS EASY TO CARRY OVER.

THESE ARE ALL JUST CUTTINGS, YOU STICK THEM IN A LIGHT SOIL BECAUSE THEY ARE SUCCULENTS THEY ROOT REALLY EASILY, AND YOU TAKE A GOOD AMOUNT OF CUTTINGS, ALREADY STARTING WITH STERILE SOIL, AND YOU HAVE A STEERABLE AND YOU INSPECT YOUR CUTTINGS.

YOU ALSO HAVE, IF YOU HAVE A JADE OR A PLANT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE MORE, BUT PLANTS ALWAYS DO BETTER WITH THE MOTHER.

IT IS A PHENOMENON, THE WOLVES TRAIT, IT'S ALL DIFFERENT PLANTS THAT DO MUCH BETTER.

YOU TAKE A CUTTING AND YOU STICK IT UNDERNEATH, WITHIN THAT SOIL, THEY WILL ROUTE MUCH EASIER.

WHO KNEW?

HE REALLY HAVE TO ASSESS IF YOU REALLY WANT IT AND IT IS SOMETHING YOU'RE GOING TO VALUE OR IS AN ANNUAL THAT YOU SHOULD THROUGHOUT.

EVERYBODY DOES GERANIUMS, THEY ARE SUPER EASY.

IF YOU LET THESE PLANTS GET DOWN TO 45, LIKE THE MEALY BUG PESTS WILL DISAPPEAR.

IF YOUR CLIENTS CAN HANDLE THAT THAT WILL TAKE CARE OF A LOT OF THE PASSIVE PRESSURES.

BOB: AND BRINGING IT INTO WARMER TEMPERATURES ACCELERATES THE PROBLEMS, SO GOOD ADVICE.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO CAUTION PEOPLE, IF YOU WERE TO ELECT TO USE ANY PESTICIDE, THEY ARE NOT LABELED AS ENDORSED.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO USE SOMETHING THAT IS BUSY -- BENIGN LIKE A NO PAST FLY STRIP, IT HAD BETTER BE OUTSIDE BEFORE IT FREEZES AND EVERYTHING COMES IN.

THE OPTION TO USE SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT IS OUTDOORS.

DO IT EARLY.

SHARON: SO YOU CAN HIT THOSE RIGHT NOW.

THANKS DEB.

LET'S CONTINUE TONIGHT'S EPISODE WITH ANOTHER GARDEN TOUR.

LISA POST IS A DULUTH RESIDENT, WHO LIVES RIGHT NEXT TO AMITY CREEK!

SHE SHARES WITH US WHAT IT'S LIKE TO SHARE A PROPERTY WITH AN INTERERSTING NATURAL RESOURCE.

>> I AM LISA POST, AND THIS IS DULUTH MINNESOTA.

WE HAVE LIVED IN DULUTH, AND FOUND THIS PLACE BY ABSOLUTE LUCK.

IT IS KIND OF THE HOUSE LOTTERY.

SEVEN ACRES WITH A CREEK RUNNING THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

BECAUSE MY HUSBAND AND I ARE BOTH CHARRED FRESHMEN AND WE GOT MARRIED STANDING IN THE POOL, THIS WAS ACTUALLY A GOAL OF OURS, WE DID NOT THINK THAT WE COULD GET ON A DRY CREEK OR A -- TROUT CREEK OR TROUT RIVER.

THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE IS MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO ENDANGER THE WATER, BECAUSE THIS IS A STREAM THAT FLOWS INTO LAKE SUPERIOR AND WE JUST WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE STEWARDS OF WHAT WE HAVE.

BECAUSE WE ARE DOWN IN A RAVINE, WE ARE IN A BIT OF A BOWL, AND HERE WE HAVE THE HOUSE AND THE GARAGE, IT'S CREATING A LITTLE MICROCLIMATE.

AND I DECIDED WELL, I WILL GET SOME OF THESE, I CALLED THEM GRASSES.

THEY ARE ACTUALLY ZONE FIVE, EVEN THOUGH DULUTH IS ZONED FOR ME.

AND THE REASON THAT I GOT THOSE WAS BOTH MY HUSBAND AND I FLY FISH.

COHEN GRASSES REMIND ME ABOUT BEING OUT IN THE CANOE FISHING.

THOSE GRASSES WAVING IN THE RIVER.

MOST OF THE FLOWERS CAME AT THE HOUSE, AND THIS ONE IS ALWAYS A FAN FAVORITE CALL SOLVENT AND SUBSTANCE, THE BRIGHT LIME GREEN WHICH IS LOVELY.

IT IS FUN TO IMAGINE WHAT THIS PLACE WILL BE LIKE IN A FEW YEARS.

WE HAVE JUST GOTTEN STARTED.

SHARON: BEFORE WE GET BACK TO MORE QUESTIONS, DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT?

BOB: I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF OUR VIDEOS TONIGHT BUT THEY SAID THERE, PROTECTING A WATER RESOURCE SO THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE FERTILIZING ARE GOING TO FERTILIZE VERY CAREFULLY, WE WANT A BUFFER ZONE AND WATER RESOURCES WERE EVERYWHERE, PARTICULAR WITH THE PRIVATE DISCUSSION -- CLIMATE DISCUSSION, OUR WATER RESOURCES ARE BLESSED, LET'S TAKE GOOD CARE OF THEM.

SHARON: WE LOVE THE QUESTIONS COMING IN VIA EMAIL AND PHONE, WHAT CAN THIS PERSON USE AS A TRENCH ON THEIR MINIATURE ORCHIDS?

BOB: THOSE ARE TOUGH.

DEB: BENEFICIAL IS WHAT I WOULD USE.

BOB: I WOULD START AND LOOKED THERE AS WELL.

DEB: YOU CAN GET THEM ONLINE NOW, LOOK FOR BENEFICIAL SNACK CONTROL, DEPENDING ON HOW BAD THAT PRESSURE IS RIGHT NOW, IT COULD BE A BIGGER ISSUE, YOU KNOW.

BECAUSE IF IT GETS AWAY FROM YOU, IT'S HARDER TO TREAT AND MANAGE WITH BENEFICIAL'S, -- BENEFICIAL.

DEB: AND IT MIGHT BE BEST TO DISPOSE OF THE PLANT ONCE THE POPULATION COMES IN.

AND PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BE AWARE, YOU SEE THESE STRIATIONS ON THE TISSUE, THAT IS TYPICALLY DAMAGE.

SHARON: GREAT QUESTION.

HELLO JUDY.

SHE WRITES OUR PLUM TREE WAS LOADED WITH FRUIT, BUT WHEN I WENT TO PICK IT THERE WERE NONE ON THE TREE.

SQUIRRELS GOT THEM ALL IN JUST A FEW HOURS AND I WAITED ONE DAY TO LONG.

IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO TO PREVENT THE SQUIRRELS FROM STRIPPING THE TREE?

I'M SORRY, JUDY.

BOB: THEY ALWAYS WAIT UNTIL IT'S PERFECTLY RIGHT.

THE FRUIT WILL RIPEN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

I THINK THAT IT'S OVER-THE-TOP, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHORE, BUT SEE ONLY SOLUTION.

SHARON: AND YOU HAVE TO PUT ON AND TAKE OFF THAT MANY.

BOB: YOU DO, AS THE TREE GROWS.

LET THE FRUIT RIPEN, THEN TAKE OFF AND HARVEST.

DEB: ROHAN, GIVE IT A LONG PRUNE.

BOB: AND WE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OUT THERE, EVERYBODY IS TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING.

SHARON: MOVING ON, BOB, YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WONDERFUL WINTER SQUASH.

BOB: IT WAS A GOOD YEAR FOR SO MANY WINTER SQUASHES, IT REALLY IS A GREAT CROP FOR US, JUST LOADED WITH NUTRITION, SO MANY VARIETIES DO SO WELL, MAKING A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT SUMMER SQUASH AND WINTER SQUASH, WINTER SQUASH COMES IN DURING THE SUMMER BUT YOU CAN ALSO EAT THE SEEDS AND THE SKIN, AND IT DOES NOT START PER WELL.

WINTER SQUASH MATURES LATER IN THE SUMMER FOR THE EARLY FALL AND THE SKIN IS TOUGH, SO IF YOU WANT TO KEEP SOMETHING RATHER THAN DEHYDRATING OR PRESERVING, IF YOU JUST WANT TO STORE YOU CAN CONCENTRATE ON THE WINTER SQUASH AND THOSE ARE THE ONES COMING IN RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT SPECIES AND THIS DOES INCLUDE THE PUMPKINS, WHICH IS IN THAT FIRST GROUP OF SPECIES.

THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO CROSS, AND THEY ARE SEPARATE AND DISTINCT.

IF YOU WANT TO SAVE SOME SEE, MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT CROSSING UP WITHIN SPECIES EACH -- EACH SPECIES.

THEY WERE NOT CROSSED IF YOU WANTED TO SAY SOME SEE.

WE HAVE MANY, MANY GOOD VARIETIES AND THIS BIG FAMILY THAT IS GOING OUT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.

THESE ARE SOME FAVORITES THAT I HAPPEN TO HAVE IN ORDER HERE.

IF WE TAKE A QUICK LOOK, ACORNS, YOU DON'T WANT TO OVERLOOK THIS ONE, THIS IS THE HARD SKIN AND THE SUNSHINE.

THESE ARE DELICIOUS, ALL OF THESE ORIGINATED IN SOUTH AMERICA AND SPREAD THAT THE WORLD.

THE JAPANESE ARE KNOWN FOR THE SQUASH IS, IF YOU DON'T FIND THESE IN GROCERY STORES.

GOT TO FIND THEM IN A FARMERS MARKET RATHER THAN THEMSEVES -- YOURSELF, AND THEY DEVELOP IN JAPAN AS PART OF THEIR CUISINE THERE AND EXCEPTIONAL -- ONE OF MINNESOTA'S FAVORITES.

THIS BUTTERCUP GOES BACK TO 1985, ONE OF THE OLDIE BUT GOODIES, IT LOOKS LIKE A COFFEE CUP AT THE BOTTOM, YOU NEED AN PNEUMATIC DEVICE TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS THE BUTTERCUP AND THIS IS THE BIG FAVORITE STATEWIDE NUMBER ONE SPOT IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, BURGESS BUTTERCUP, AND THE BUTTERNUT WHICH LOOKS LIKE GREAT FIRST LOT -- GREAT SQUASH, A VERY SMALL C CAVITY AND THIS IS ONE WHICH I HAPPEN TO LOVE, THIS IS THE ONLY WINTER SPORTS -- SQUASH WHERE YOU CAN EAT THE SKIN, AND WHEN PEOPLE SAY I DON'T LIKE/RESTART THEM ON THIS.

I CALL THIS OUR GATEWAY SQUASH.

THAT WILL GET YOUR KIDS STARTED THERE, SO NUTRITIOUS AND KEEPS SO WELL, SO MUCH DISCUSSION OUT ABOUT LESS PROCESSED FOOD, MORE NATURAL FOOD, ALL OF THE BENEFITS, PROBIOTICS AND EVERYTHING COMING FROM EATING REAL FOOD.

LOTS OF WAYS TO PREPARE, YOU CAN SPOT THEM DOWN AND HE WAS A NICE SHARP CLEAVER TO DO THAT JOB, SCOOP OUT THE SEEDS AND PUT THEM ON A BAKING SHEET, AFTER HUNDRED 50 DEGREES, DEPENDING ON THE SQUASH AND HOW MUCH FLESH WE HAVE, ROASTING HAS BECOME VERY POPULAR, ROASTING AT HUPPERT -- HOTTER TEMPERATURES TO CARAMELIZE THINGS AT 425 UNTIL THEY BROWN UP FOR YOU AND THAT DEPENDS ON 50-60 MINUTES.

DON'T OVERLOOK THE FACT THAT YOU CAN BOIL SMITTY OF THESE, GET THE SKIN OFF, EVERYTHING ELSE WE LEAVE THE SKIN ON AND PEEL THE SKIN OFF, CHUCK IT OFF, BOIL IT, AND YOU MAY WANT TO PUT THIS INTO SOUP.

THE MICROWAVE, YOU CAN MICROWAVE THESE AGAIN, BUT YOU MAY NOT BE SEEN THESE A LOT OF THE TIME, BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE ABOUT SEVEN MINUTES PER POUND, SO WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT A FIVE SQUASH YOU COULD BE UP 45-50 MINUTES ANYWAYS.

THE ACORN SQUASH WHICH WE WILL TALK ABOUT, WE HAVE BETTER AND SWEETER VARIETIES OUT THERE, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT STUFFING THESE AND CUTTING THEM IN HALF AND PUTTING THEM ON A COOKIE SHEET AND ADDING A LITTLE BROWN SUGAR AND MAPLE SYRUP, DELICIOUS.

WHY TRY STUFFING THEM?

STUFFING THE WEIGHTS, STUFFING PEPPER AND GROUND BEEF, AND RICE AND SO FORTH, GOURMET IT, I HAD A, IT'S DELICIOUS STUFF.

GIVE THAT A TRY AND BREAK THEM UP AND IT REALLY IS VERY NUTRITIOUS.

VERY DELICIOUS.

SHARON: NOW WE KNOW HOW YOU LIKE YOUR SQUASH.

NO LAMB AND MAKE.

BOB: A GOURMET, AS YOU KNOW.

SHARON: EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE BROUGHT YOU A TOUR OF THE GARDENS OF KAREN JOHNSON.

TONIGHT, WE RETURN TO HER GARDENS TO TAKE A PEEK AT HER VEGETABLES AND GAZEBO, TO INSPIRE YOU FOR NEXT YEAR.

KAREN: ALLOW, I KAREN JOHNSON, I LIVE IN MOOSE LAKE A COUPLE SHARP -- MILES SOUTH OF IT.

IT USED TO BE A FULL VEGETABLE GARDEN BUT NOW WE HAVE CUT IT BACK WITH CUCUMBERS AND TOMATOES AND RASPBERRIES AND ZUCCHINI.

I TRAINED MY CUCUMBERS TO GROPE OFFENSE.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THEM -- -- TO GROW UP A FENCE.

SO I DON'T HAVE THEM ROTTING OR ANYTHING.

I HAVE TWO ROWS, THE SECOND ONE PRODUCES AND AT THE END OF THAT FALL, I CUT THAT ONE, AND I PICKED FROM THE ONE THAT IS GROWING.

CUT AND SAVE, CUT AND SAY, IT MAKES IT REALLY EASY SO I DON'T HAVE TO PRUNE THEM.

WELCOME TO OUR GAZEBO.

WE DON'T HAVE A SEPARATE PORCH.

THIS IS WHERE WE SPENT LOTS AND LOTS OF HOURS READING.

SOMETIMES RESTING WITH OUR EYES CLOSED.

SOMETIMES JUST ENJOYING MOTHER NATURE.

I HAVE A P BLOCK, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA -- B BLOCK, FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA.

THEY DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THESE AND THEY ASKED FOR VOLUNTEERS AND WE HAVE TO OBSERVE THEM TWICE A MONTH, COLLECT DATA, SEND IT TO THEM, AND IT IS REALLY QUITE INTERESTING.

AND THE BEES KEEP EVERYTHING BEAUTIFUL AND POLLINATED.

EVERY YEAR, I TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THEM.

SHARON: LET'S GET BACK TO THE QUESTIONS THAT WE LOVE, THEY ARE ALL COMING IN, IT'S GREAT.

GARY IN WISCONSIN HAS A HIBISCUS.

IT IS HIS FIRST TIME PLANTED, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH IT IN THE DEB: FALL?

DEB:WHICH HIBISCUS LUNA, OR HARDY?

I WILL ASSUME THAT IT'S A HEARTY ONE.

THE TRICK IS THAT IS THAT YOU CAN BUDGET A LITTLE BIT, TRIMMED THE CROWN, AND HE'S GOING TO THINK THAT IT DOES NOT COME BACK IN THE SPRING BECAUSE THEY WANT 70 DEGREES SOIL TEMPERATURES.

THAT IS THE ONLY REAL TRICK TO IT.

IT'S A PERENNIAL, YOU CUT IT BACK, AND THEN YOU TRY TO MULCH IT A BIT.

BOB: WE HAVE HAD THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT ALL THESE PLANTS, SO MANY OF WHAT I WOULD CALL HOSPITAL PLANTS OUT IN MASS MERCHANDISE FOR SALE.

THEY ARE THERE FOR THE APPEAL, GO TO A NURSERY AND GET SOMETHING HEARTY, BECAUSE IT HIBISCUS ARE VERY HEARTY.

THEY ARE TOUGH TO OVERWORK, GET YOURSELF A HEARTY GENETICS.

SHARON: BOB YOU WANTED TO MENTION SOME THINGS COMING UP THE MIRRORS SHOULD KNOW ABOUT.

>> FIRST AND FOREMOST, A MASTER GARDENERS, THEY HAVE THE FALL BULBS TELL, I SHOWED YOU SOME OF THE BULBS, INEXPENSIVE FOR YOUR THERE, OCTOBER 7, NINE TO 12, GET THERE EARLY, WE ARE DOING SEVERAL EDUCATIONAL PRESENTATIONS.

I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING ON DORMANT PRUNING SO THAT PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND THERE IS NO CHARGE AND THEY CAN ENJOY THAT PARTICULAR ONE ON THE SEVENTH OF OCTOBER.

WE ALSO WANT TO INVITE YOU DEB.

WE ALSO HAVE DEHYDRATED SALSAS AND YOU CAN FIX IT AS A GO, THAT IS SOMETHING UNIQUE.

WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SALSA CONTEST THERE ON AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM, A FULL DAY ON OCTOBER 17, BOTH IN HERMANTOWN.

AND WE DEVELOP A COOKBOOK, A RESOURCE BOOK, YOU GET TO SAMPLE SALSAS THAT ARE MASTER GARDENERS MAKE, AND WE WILL HAVE A FUN TIME WITH OUR CELERITY JUDGES.

A COUPLE EDUCATIONAL THINGS COMING UP, DON'T MISS IT IN OCTOBER.

SHARON: THAT SOUNDS SO FUN.

LET'S WRAP THINGS UP WITH MORE QUESTIONS.

LOUISE HAS AN AZALEA THAT'S ALMOST 40 YEARS OLD.

PART OF IT DID NOT DEVELOP THIS YEAR.

JUNE JULY AUGUST, ACIDIC FERTILIZER, AND SHE IS WONDERING HOW FAR OUT FROM THE PLANT TO USE THE ACIDIC FERTILIZER?

DEB:?

TO THE TRIP LINE.

BOB: MOST OF THE ACTIVE GROWTH IS WHERE THOSE RENTS ARE BEING EXTENDED.

DEB: THE OUTER GROWTH OF THE PLANT.

SHARON: GREAT QUESTION.

DARLENE IN ISLAND HAS AN ANGEL WING BEGONIA, CAN SHE KEEP THEM OVER THE WINTER?

IS THAT A GOOD LOCATION ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HOUSE?

DEB: THAT ONE IS HARDER TO WINTER, THAT IS A FIBROUS ROOT SYSTEM, AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEST PRESSURE WITH IT.

YOU CAN LOSE THOSE.

IT JUST FEELS LIKE AS SOON AS WE GET INTO THE SPRING SOLSTICE, SWITCH OVER AND EVERYTHING AMPS UP, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU MIGHT LOSE THEM.

SHE COULD DEAFLY KEEP THEM, THERE IS NO WE SAID NOT TO TRY, BUT SHE NEEDS TO CHECK THE PEST PRESSURE THAT COULD BE ON THEM.

SHARON: RICHARD FROM DULUTH ASKS ABOUT A RASPBERRY PATCH THAT WENT 8-10 YEARS WITHOUT PRODUCING, BUT -- PRODUCING, AND THREE YEARS AGO IT STOPPED.

HE WONDERED AFTER HE CLEARED OUT THE PATCH CAN HE PLANTED IN THE SAME AREA OR SHOULD HE START FRESH AND HOW FAR FROM THE ORIGINAL PATCH?

BOB: VERY GOOD QUESTION.

USUALLY, WHEN THE PATCH GOES DOWN LIKE THAT, IT'S A VIRUS.

THE VIRUS IS SYSTEMIC, RUNNING THROUGH THE ENTIRE PLANT DOWN TO THE ROOT SYSTEM.

HE WANTS TO WAIT AT LEAST A YEAR AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANOTHER HEAVY NITROGEN FEEDING CROP.

PLANT SWEETCORN OR CABBAGE, GET PLENTY OF NITROGEN FERTILIZER FROM YOUR CHOICE OF SOURCES.

WE WANT TO HAVE ENOUGH FERTILITY SO WE CAN BREAK DOWN ALL OF THAT.

AT LEAST ONE SEASON TO BREAK DOWN ANY VIRUS THAT MIGHT ALREADY EXIST THERE AT COME BACK IN AND PLANT RASPBERRIES.

DEB: SO USEFUL, REALLY GOOD.

SHARON: SALLY AND VIRGINIA ASKING HOW LONG AFTER FLOWERING SHOULD SHE PRUNE?

WHAT IS SHE MAKING, MAYBE AN ANSWER TO A FEW THINGS.

DEB: A LOT OF THE TIME AS SOON AS THEY ARE DONE FLOWERING, THAT'S A GOOD TIME TO DO A LOT OF PRUNING.

BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT SITTING ANY BUDS AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.

BOB: SOME ARE GOING TO COME EVERY YEAR, CUTBACK SHRUBS WILL COME BACK EVERY SPRING, YOU CAN CUT THEM DOWN IN THE LATE FALL, OTHERS HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE FLOWERING TO OCCUR AND THEN YOU DON'T WANT TO CUT THE FLOWERS OFF AND IF YOU COULD PRUNE THEM UP, YOU WAIT FOR THE FLOUR, CUT THEM IMMEDIATELY, PRUNE THEM IMMEDIATELY AFTER FLOWERING.

SHARON: THAT'S ALL FOR GREAT GREAT QUESTIONS.

GARDENING TONIGHT.

YOU CAN FOLLOW US ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS, ON INSTAGRAM @GREATGARDENINGPBSNORTH, AND ON YOUTUBE AT YOUTUBE.COM/GREAT GARDENING, WHERE YOU CAN FIND TONIGHT'S EPISODE POSTED TOMORROW.

THANKS BOB AND DEB, YOU TWO WERE GREAT TONIGHT.

WE'LL BE BACK FOR MORE GREAT GARDENING IN 2024.

BUT UNTIL THEN, FROM ALL OF US HERE AT GREAT GARDENING, WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME, AND ENJOY THE GARDEN.

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