WHERE WE MEET HIM NOW.

>> I WALKED THREE MILES A DAY.

I GIVE LECTURES HERE AT THE COLLEGE ON THE HOLOCAUST AND THE SECOND WORLD WAR.

FOR 14 YEARS I DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST.

IT DIDN'T INTEREST ME.

I WAS INTERESTED IN TODAY AND THE FUTURE, BUT AFTER THOSE HOLOCAUST DENIERS CAME OUT, SUDDENLY I REALIZED THAT IT IS MY DUTY TO BE A WITNESS.

I WAS BORN IN CZECHOSLOVAKIA IN A SMALL TOWN IN 1948.

CZECHOSLOVAKIA, AND MY HOMETOWN WAS INCORPORATED INTO HUNGARY.

1944, IN HUNGARY AND SOUTH, I WAS A YOUNG MAN, 18 YEARS OLD.

I WAS STATIONED IN SLAVE LABOUR CAMPS.

IN MOUNTAINS, IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL PLACE, BUT NOT IF YOU WERE IN SLAVE LABOUR BUILDING A RAILROAD TRACK FOR THE GERMAN ARMY.

WHEN THE BOMBERS CAME, THE GUARDS CHASED US INTO THE CORNFIELDS BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO SAVE THEMSELVES, AND SO WE HAD TO LAY ON THE GROUND UNTIL THE BOMBERS LEFT.

AND DURING ONE OF THOSE RAIDS, I ESCAPED.

I HAD CIVILIAN CLOTHES AND STOLE AND GOT INTO THE INNER CITY OF BUDAPEST.

I WAS LOOKING FOR SHELTER, DIDN'T HAVE FOOD, AND BY ABSOLUTE MIRACLE I RAN INTO THE HANDS OF MY BROTHER-IN-LAW, AND HE TOOK ME TO SAFE HOUSES.

THEY SAVED THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF JEWS.

I WAS ISSUED AND JOINED THE UNDERGROUND, AND MY JOB WAS, AGAIN, TO HELP OTHER JEWS THEMSELVES.

THERE WAS AN UNDERGROUND PRINTING PRESS.

WE DID ISSUE PASSES FROM THE TERRITORIES THAT WERE OCCUPIED BY THE RUSSIANS.

SO THE HUNGARIANS WASN'T SURE AND COULDN'T CHECK IT.

MANY, MANY PEOPLE SURVIVED JUST BECAUSE OF THOSE PAPERS.

I NEED A JOB, AND I WALKED IN ONE DAY TO THE LEADER OF THE HUNGARY AND FASCIST PARTY, AND I SAID I AM A GOOD PARTY MEMBER, BUT I HAD TO ESCAPE FROM THE RUSSIANS, AND NOW I NEED A JOB.

AND HE GAVE ME A JOB IN WHAT WAS MANUFACTURING BOMBERS FOR ARIEL BOMBS FOR THE GERMAN LUFT WAFE, AND I BECAME A QUALITY CONTROLLER.

EVERY PIECE BEFORE IT LEFT THE FACTORY, I HAD TO LOOK AT IT AND I MAKE SURE THAT IT WON'T WORK.

DURING THE UNDERGROUND TO A DOCTOR WHO WAS THE HEAD OF THE RESCUE COMMITTEE IN HUNGARY.

LEAD THE GERMANS TO NOT ANYMORE TO AUSCHWITZ.

SO I WENT WITH HIM TO THE HEADQUARTER OF GERMAN NAZIS AND HELPED TO DELIVER A MILLION DOLLAR WORTH OF GOLD AND JEWELLERY IN A SUITCASE.

MY ROLE WAS TO CARRY THE SUITCASE.

>> WERE YOU SCARED?

>> NO.

IF YOU WOULD HAVE SCARED, IT WOULD HAVE SHOWN AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN YOUR END.

NO, YOU HAD TO HAVE CONFIDENCE.

ORIGINALLY THERE WERE 3,000 HUNGARIAN JEWS FROM BUDAPEST WHO WERE SENT TO AUSCHWITZ BUT INSTEAD THEY WERE SENT TO SWITZERLAND.

1800 SOMETHING WHO FINALLY ARRIVED TO SWITZERLAND BECAUSE OF THIS BRIBE TO THE GERMANS.

I WAS MAYBE 13 YEARS OLD WITH MY MOTHER.

MY MOTHER DIED OF STARVATION IN THE CONCENTRATION CAMP.

HERE IS MY FIFTH THAT DIED AFTER ARRIVING TO AUSCHWITZ.

THIS WAS A LITTLE BABY AND THERE WAS A DOCTOR, AND THIS IS MY BROTHER WHO SURVIVED THE WAR BUT CAME BACK AS A SKELETON.

MY FATHER AND MY BROTHER CAME BACK.

MY SISTER, MY MOTHER, UNCLES, COUSINS, ABOUT TWO DOZEN CLOSE RELATIVES PERISHED IN THE HOLOCAUST.

I MARRIED AFTER THE WAR A CZECH GIRL.

CATHOLIC, AND I THOUGHT FIRST I HAD TO TRY OUT THAT SHE WAS NOT AN ANTI-SEMITE, BECAUSE IT IS THE LAST THING THAT I NEEDED AFTER SURVIVING THE HOLOCAUST, BUT SHE WASN'T, AND OUR MARRIAGE AFTER LASTED FOR 70 YEARS.

♪ I SOON FOUND OUT HOW OPPRESSIVE THIS REGIME IS.

THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE TORTURED AND IT WAS -- I BECAME, AGAIN, PART OF THE UNDERGROUND AND I STARTED TO HELP PEOPLE TO ESCAPE FROM CZECHOSLOVAKIA.

BECAUSE OF MY STATUS, I COULD TRAVEL EASILY, AND SO I PREPARED FOR ONE ESCAPE ROUTE, BUT TO ESCAPE, IT IS FOR LIFE.

SO IT WAS REALLY DANGEROUS FOR THEM AND DANGEROUS FOR ME.

MANY PEOPLE WHO I HAVE KNOWN WERE EXECUTED, HANGED.

SO EVERYTHING WAS TELLING US GET OUT OF HERE.

THERE WAS THE INTERNATIONAL EXPRESS, AND IT WENT THROUGH THREE DIFFERENT COMMUNIST HOLDS BEFORE IT REACHED SWEDEN WITH FRENCH PASSPORTS.

WE DIDN'T SPEAK FRENCH, WE SPEAK ONLY YIDDISH AND NOBODY ELSE SPOKE YIDDISH, SO THAT IS HOW WE MANAGED TO GET THROUGH THE CHECKS.

AFTER I WENT THROUGH ALL THOSE THINGS AND CAME TO AMERICA AND CAME HERE CURRENTLY AND MEET ALL THOSE PEOPLE, MARGARET THATCHER AND KISSINGER, IT CAN ONLY HELP ME COME TO AMERICA.

IT IS LIKE A RIGHT THAT ONLY IN AMERICA CAN HAPPEN TO YOU THAT YOU CAME FROM NOWHERE AND YOU MAKE IT.

IF YOU DON'T LEARN FROM HISTORY, YOU ARE EASILY REPEAT IT.

SO I AM TRYING TO INFUSE THEM WITH THE DESIRE TO LEARN AND TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.

LIFE IS FULL OF HOPE.

YOU SHOULD NEVER GIVE UP.

>> Amy: FRANK'S STORIES CAN BE FOUND IN ALLAN ZULLO'S HEROES OF THE HOLOCAUST, AND IN HIS OWN BOOK, REPORTS FROM A DISTANT