
Indiana Newsdesk, Episode 1011, 9/09/2022
Season 10 Episode 11 | 26m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Car prices hit all-time high, Neptune Springs, Energy bills
The price of new and used cars hit an all-time high this summer. A crew digging on the grounds of the West Baden Springs hotel stumbled across an old pathway that led to the buried Neptune Springs. And a study shows people struggling to pay their energy bills are more likely to take dangerous risks to keep their lights on.
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Indiana Newsdesk, Episode 1011, 9/09/2022
Season 10 Episode 11 | 26m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
The price of new and used cars hit an all-time high this summer. A crew digging on the grounds of the West Baden Springs hotel stumbled across an old pathway that led to the buried Neptune Springs. And a study shows people struggling to pay their energy bills are more likely to take dangerous risks to keep their lights on.
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THE PRICE OF NEW AND USED CARS HIT AN ALL-TIME HIGH THIS SUMMER AND WHILE THAT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR DEALERS, JUST GETTING THE CARS TO THE LOT IS AN ISSUE.
>> WE HAVE VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT AND SITTING AND WAITING IN A LOT SOMEWHERE IN CANADA.
>> THE GOOD NEWS FOR BUYERS, PRICES AT LEAST IN THE USED CAR MARKET, ARE EXPECTED TO DROP.
A CREW DIG ON THE GROUNDS OF THE HOTEL STUMBLED ACROSS AN OLD PATHWAY THAT LED TO THE BURIED NEPTUNE SPRINGS.
>> AND TURNED THEM LOOSE AND SAID IF YOU'D LIKE TO UNCOVER IT, GO FOR IT.
NOT KNOWING EVER THAT THEY'D HIT WHAT THEY HIT.
>> THE SPRING WAS IN USE FROM THE LATE 1890s TO THE 1910s.
PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO PAY THEIR ENERGY BILLS ARE MORE LIKELY TO TAKE DANGEROUS RISKS TO KEEP THEIR LIGHTS ON, WE'LL HAVE THESE STORIES PLUS THE LATEST NEWS FROM ACROSS THE STATE RIGHT NOW ON INDIANA NEWSDESK.
>>> WELCOME TO INDIANA NEWSDESK, I'M JOE HREN.
>>> INDIANA'S NEW LAW BANNING ALMOST ALL ABORTIONS TAKES EFFECT THURSDAY, BUT MANY QUESTIONED WHETHER LAWMAKERS FOLLOWED PUBLIC POLLING WHEN CRAFTING THE LAW.
BRANDON SMITH REPORTS A POLITICAL SCIENTIST EXPLAINS WHY GETTING AN ANSWER ON ABORTION FROM POLLING IS SO DIFFICULT.
>> UNIVERSITY OF INDIANAPOLIS PROFESSOR LAURA WILSON SAYS GENERALLY, LAWMAKERS RESPOND TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO POLLING ON ANY ISSUE, SHE SAYS THERE'S OFTEN A DISCONNECT BETWEEN OPINION AND ACTION.
>> MANY PEOPLE WILL SAY, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEY SUPPORT SOMETHING.
WILL THEY VOTE ON THE BASIS OF THAT?
WILL THEY WRITE THEIR LEGISLATOR ON THE BASIS OF THAT?
WILL THEY GO TO PROTEST ON THE BASIS OF THAT?
>> ON ABORTION POLLING SPECIFICALLY, WILSON SAYS IT'S A PARTICULARLY TRICKY ISSUE TO GAUGE PUBLIC OPINION ON.
>> BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PARAMETERS AND A LOT OF EXCEPTIONS, EXPLANATIONS, CONTEXT THAT YOU CAN ADD TO IT.
IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS WE OFTEN MAKE IT FEEL, WHERE YOU'RE EITHER IN SUPPORT OF IT OR AGAINST IT.
>> WHAT LITTLE INDIANA PUBLIC POLLING ABOUT ABORTION THERE IS AVAILABLE SUGGESTS A LARGE MAJORITY OF HOOSIERS SUPPORT AT LEAST SOME LEGAL ACCESS TO ABORTION - BUT EXACTLY HOW MUCH ACCESS IS HARDER TO GAUGE.
FOR INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING, I'M BRANDON SMITH FROM THE STATEHOUSE.
>> THE ACLU OF INDIANA, ON BEHALF OF HOOSIER JEWS FOR CHOICE AND FIVE ANONYMOUS CITIZENS, HAS SUED THE STATE, SAYING THE ABORTION BAN LAW VIOLATES INDIANA'S RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT.
THE NEW LAW TAKES EFFECT THURSDAY.
>>> CAR PRICES REACHED ALL-TIME HIGHS THIS SUMMER, THE AVERAGE PRICE OF A NEW CAR MORE THAN $45,000.
AS BENTE BOUTHIER REPORTS, HIGHER PRICES MAY SOUND LIKE A GOOD THING FOR DEALERS, BUT THE SUPPLY CHAIN AND INFLATION ISSUES HAS SOME CAR DEALERS WORRIED.
>> THE BIG ISSUE HAS BEEN INVENTORY.
BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, DEALERS ACROSS THE US TYPICALLY HAD 3 AND A HALF MILLION CARS IN THEIR LOTS.
THAT FELL TO 2.7 MILLION AT THE START OF THE PANDEMIC AND HASN'T RECOVERED.
TOM GADDY, THE SALES MANAGER AT PAUL RICHARD GM IN PERU SAYS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC, THEY'D TYPICALLY HAVE 60 NEW VEHICLES ON THE LOT.
RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE THREE.
>> MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE TAKING THE TIME INSTEAD OF HAVING TO HAVE AN IMMEDIATE GRATIFICATION OF GOING AND GRABBING A VEHICLE OFF THE LOT AND TAKING IT HOME TODAY.
THEY'RE COMING IN, THEY'RE ORDERING EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT.
WAITING, COULD BE TWO MONTHS, COULD BE SIX MONTHS, DON'T KNOW.
>> IT MEANS THAT MOST NEW CARS THAT HIT THE LOT ARE ALREADY BOUGHT.
AND GADDY SAYS ON TOP OF THAT, SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND LABOR ARE AFFECTING INVENTORY.
>> WE'VE GOT VEHICLES THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT, AND SITTING AND WAITING AT A LOT SOMEWHERE IN CANADA, OR ANYWHERE THAT THEY'RE SITTING AND WAITING FOR 2, 3, 4 MONTHS THAT ARE BUILT, AND JUST THEY CAN'T GET TRANSPORTATION HERE.
>> HE SAYS HIS DEALERSHIP HAS ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF USED CAR INVENTORY RIGHT NOW AS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.
USED CAR PRICES ALSO SAW A SHARP UPTICK, HITTING HIGHS THIS SUMMER OF MORE THAN $26,000.
>> WE KNOW WHAT THIS IS ALL OVER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COUNT ON OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE THAT WE HAD SOLD BEFORE.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE KNOWN AS SOMEBODY THAT TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION.
>> CAR PRICES WERE INCREASING BACK IN 2019, BUT THE SHARPEST JUMPS WERE IN 2021 AND 2022.
THE PRICES HAVE DISCOURAGED SOME CONSUMERS FROM BUYING, AS RESEARCHERS REPORTED VEHICLE SALES DROPPED MORE THAN 19 PERCENT COMPARED THE FIRST HALF OF LAST YEAR.
THE PRICES AND UNCERTAIN INVENTORY ARE PLAGUING JEREMY HAESLEY, THE FINANCE MANAGER FOR A DEALERSHIP IN SPENCER.
HE SAYS THEY HAVE SEEN A DROP IN BUYERS.
>> WE'RE A RELATIVELY SMALL COUNTRY STORE.
WE DON'T SELL HUNDREDS OF NEW CARS LIKE THE BIG CITY STORES DO.
>> HE SAYS THEIR VEHICLE ORDERS AREN'T PRIORITIZED, SO THEY'VE ADJUSTED TO SELLING ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY USED CARS.
>> IT HURTS THEM, BUT PROBABLY NOT AS MUCH AS IT HURTS US BECAUSE WE'RE USED TO HAVING 10 TO 15 TO 20 CARS ON THE LOT.
AND WE HAVE BETWEEN TWO AND FIVE.
>> PRICES ARE PROJECTED TO DROP, ESPECIALLY IN THE USED MARKET.
ANDREW BUTTERS SAYS WE ARE SEEING THAT.
PRICE GROWTH LAST YEAR WAS 12 PERCENT IN JULY.
>> I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE INFLATION RATE COMING DOWN FOR NEW AND USED VEHICLES STILL LEAVES A HIGH RATE OF PRICING INCREASE.
IF WE WERE TO THINK ABOUT YEAR ON YEAR, CHANGES WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, PRICE INCREASES AROUND 10 PERCENT, WHICH IS STILL A NUMBER WE HAVEN'T SEEN FOR LIKE 50 YEARS.
>> HE SAYS WE ARE SEEING RIPPLE EFFECTS OF SLOWING THE ECONOMY DOWN FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD >> THE ECONOMY WHILE YOU KNOW, VERY ROBUST AND STRONG DOES HAVE ITS OWN, YOU KNOW, FRICTIONS EMBEDDED IN IT.
THE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY OF HAVING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, STOP WORKING AT THEIR ESTABLISHMENT AND TRYING TO RETURN, THAT CAN TEND TO BE A VERY SORT OF COSTLY ENDEAVOR.
>> GADDY AND HAESLEY SAY THEY HOPE FOR SOME RETURN TO NORMAL EVENTUALLY.
>> ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET THE BEST INVENTORY AT THE BEST PRICES AT THE BEST TIMES.
AND DAY BY DAY, WE'RE WORKING WITHIN THIS TEMPORARY SITUATION.
>> FOR INDIANA NEWSDESK, I'M BENTE BOUTHIER.
>> BUTTERS SAYS PRICES WILL GO DOWN, BUT GIVEN THE WIDE VARIETY OF ECONOMIC FACTORS AFFECTED BY THE PANDEMIC, A COMPLETE RETURN TO NORMAL ANYTIME SOON ISN'T REALISTIC.
>>> WE'RE JOINED NOW BY CALI LICHTER FOR HEADLINES FROM AROUND THE STATE.
HELLO, CALI.
>> HELLO, JOE.
INDIANA RESIDENTS WILL HAVE WHATEVER STUDENT DEBT FORGIVENESS THEY RECEIVE TAXED AS INCOME, REFLECTING SIMILAR POLICIES IN OTHER STATES.
INDIANA'S TAX RATE IS THREE-POINT-TWO-THREE PERCENT, MEANING THOSE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IN LOAN FORGIVENESS WILL PAY UP TO THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THREE DOLLARS IN TAXES.
MORE THAN FORTY MILLION AMERICANS COULD SEE THEIR STUDENT LOAN DEBT CUT OR ELIMINATED UNDER PRESIDENT BIDEN'S LOAN FORGIVENESS PLAN.
>>> BLOOMINGTON IS LAUNCHING A PROGRAM TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF SINGLE OCCUPANCY VEHICLES ON THE ROAD.
THE NEW INITIATIVE IS CALLED "GO BLOOMINGTON," AND IT ALLOWS USERS TO TRACK E-SCOOTERS, E-BIKES, AND BUSES.
USERS CAN ALSO SEARCH FOR THE SHORTEST WALKING AND BIKING ROUTES.
THE WEBSITE CONNECTS COMMUTERS WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK NEAR THEM TO CARPOOL.
CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT SUSAN SANDBERG SAYS IT'S IMPORTANT TO WATCH OUR INDIVIDUAL CARBON FOOTPRINT.
>> HAVING CHOICES WHEN YOU'RE COMMUTING OR WHEN YOU'RE GOING ABOUT YOUR DAILY LIFE AND YOU NEED TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
>> THE CITY IS ALSO PARTNERING WITH LARGE EMPLOYERS, INCLUDING CATALENT, INDIANA UNIVERSITY, AND IU HEALTH, TO ENCOURAGE EMPLOYEES TO USE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION.
>>> BARTHOLOMEW COUNTY'S NEW COURT SERVICES BUILDING SOUTH OF THE JAIL IS JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AWAY FROM OPENING.
COLUMBUS MAYOR JIM LIENHOOP SAYS THE CURRENT COURT SERVICES BUILDING AT THE CORNER OF THIRD AND FRANKLIN STREETS WILL BE TORN DOWN TO MAKE WAY FOR A NEW HOTEL CONFERENCE CENTER.
>> WE'VE HAD SOME MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT WE'VE CHOSEN SPRAGUE HOTEL DEVELOPERS.
ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS IN TERMS OF TRYING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN IS TO CLEAR THE GROUND.
>> A FEW UNDERGROUND STORAGE TANKS WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE REMOVED.
THE REST OF THE BLOCK IS A PARKING LOT.
>>> THIS SUMMER MARKS 33 YEARS SINCE THE DEATH OF IU ALUMNUS TOM FOX, WHOSE BATTLE WITH AIDS IN THE LATE 1980S WAS DOCUMENTED THROUGH A SERIES OF PHOTOGRAPHS THAT ARE NOW ON DISPLAY ON CAMPUS.
KAYAN TARA HAS THIS STORY.
>> THE EXHIBIT OF 60 STRIKING PHOTOGRAPHS, "WILD HORSE RUNNING: THE COURAGEOUS JOURNEY OF TOM FOX," IS PRESENTED BY IU'S KINSEY INSTITUTE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE IU COOK CENTER FOR PUBLIC ARTS AND HUMANITIES IN MAXWELL HALL.
PROFESSOR EMERITUS AND LEAD CURATOR OF THE EXHIBIT CLAUDE COOKMAN SEES THE PHOTOGRAPHS AS POSITIVE, EVEN THOUGH THEY PORTRAY A MAN STRUGGLING WITH DISEASE AND DEATH.
>> THEY TELL THE STORY OF A YOUNG MAN WHO WAS TRYING TO LIVE HIS LIFE IN ADVERSE CIRCUMSTANCES.
AND SO, I THINK THEY ARE JUST A WONDERFUL EXAMPLE OF THE HUMAN CONDITION.
>> FOX INVITED PHOTOJOURNALIST MICHAEL SCHWARZ AND MEDICAL REPORTER STEVE STERNBERG INTO THE FINAL MONTHS OF HIS LIFE.
FOX WANTED TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON THE AIDS EPIDEMIC AT A TIME WHEN THE DISEASE WAS EXTREMELY STIGMATIZED.
>> IT REALLY GOES BEYOND A SPECIFIC DISEASE AND TALKS ABOUT HUMAN SPIRIT, AND SO I THINK THAT PEOPLE WILL LOOK AT THE PHOTOGRAPHS AND RECOGNIZE HOPEFULLY SOMETHING ABOUT THEMSELVES AND ABOUT PEOPLE THEY KNOW.
>> FOR INDIANA NEWSDESK, I'M KAYAN TARA.
>> THE EXHIBIT IS FREE TO THE PUBLIC AND RUNS THROUGH SEPTEMBER TWENTY-THIRD.
>>> THE PORT HOLE INN - ESTABLISHED ON LAKE LEMON MORE THAN SIXTY YEARS AGO - IS GETTING NEW OWNERS.
A GROUP OF FOUR FRIENDS GOT TOGETHER TO BUY THE RESTAURANT WHEN THEY FOUND OUT IT WAS FOR SALE.
>> IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GO BUY THREE OR FOUR OTHER RESTAURANTS.
WE WANTED THIS BECAUSE WE ENJOY BEING IN THIS AREA.
WE ENJOY THE TRADITION OF THE PORT HOLE.
>> CURRENT MANAGEMENT WILL STAY ON THROUGH THE END OF THE YEAR, TO HELP THE NEW OWNERS LEARN HOW TO CONTINUE TRADITIONS LIKE LIVE MUSIC.
JOE, THE NEW MANAGERS PLAN TO CHANGE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ADDING A LARGER PIZZA OVEN AND OTHER RENOVATIONS.
>> I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE HAPPY THEY'RE KEEPING IT GOING, THANKS, CALI.
COMING UP NEXT ON INDIANA NEWS DESK.
>> WORKERS DIGGING IN THE BADEN SPRINGS HOTEL GROUNDS UNCOVERED A SPRING THAT HASN'T BEE IN USE FOR MORE THAN A CENTURY.
AND, A NEW STUDY SHOWS THE SOMETIMES DANGEROUS RISKS PEOPLE WILL TAKE JUST TO KEEP THEIR LIGHTS ON.
THESE STORIES AND MORE, RIGHT HERE ON INDIANA NEWSDESK!
>> WAKE UP.
>> WAKE UP TO THE WORLD.
>> TO THE MARVELS.
>> THE MAYHEM.
>> THE MUSIC.
>> WAKE UP TO THE WOWS.
>> THE WHOAS.
>> THE WONDER.
>> WAKE UP TO THE COMMOTION,.
>> TO THE BEAUTY.
>> TO THE HUMANITY.
>> TO THE HOPE.
>> WAKE UP EVERY MORNING FULLY AWAKE.
>> NPR MORNING EDITION.
>> TUNE INTO YOUR LOCAL STATION OR DOWNLOAD THE NPR APP.
>> YOUR FAVORITE MEMBER BENEFIT IS GETTING BETTER AND BIGGER.
>> THIS IS WONDERFUL.
>> OVER THE NEXT YEAR, PASS OTHER IS ADDING NEW SHOWS AND DOUBLING THE NUMBER OF EPISODES FOR YOU TO STREAM.
>> THAT'S ALL THEY'VE GOT.
>> FROM YOUR FAVORITE COOKING AND TRAVEL SEARS SOME EVEN THE STAIRS ARE BREATH TAKING.
>> TO HISTORY SPECIALS AND AWARD WINNING DOCUMENTARIES, BETTER AND BIGGER.
>> THAT REALLY IS THE FUN PART.
>> STREAM ON ANY DEVICE WITH PASSPORT ON PBS VIDEO APP.
>> WELCOME BACK TO INDIANA NEWSDESK.
>>> THE FRENCH LICK AND WEST BADEN RESORT OFFERS VISITORS A CHANCE TO STEP BACK IN TIME, AND RECENTLY A CREW HAS UNCOVERED A HIDDEN GEM THAT'S NOW GIVING THE COMMUNITY ANOTHER GLIMPSE INTO THE PAST.
VINCENNES PUBLIC BROADCASTING'S CELINA BARKER HAS THIS STORY ON HOW THE RESORT IS WORKING TO BRING THIS PIECE OF HISTORY BACK TO LIFE.
>> JUSTIN HARRIS IS THE DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AT THE FRENCH LICK RESORT IN ORANGE COUNTY.
AS PART OF HIS JOB, HARRIS OVERSEES THE MAINTENANCE OF ALL OF THE BUILDINGS INCLUDING THE FRENCH LICK RESORT AND CASINO AS WELL AS THE WEST BADEN SPRINGS HOTEL.
>> WE'VE GOT MULTIPLE PROJECTS GOING ON IN THIS AREA.
WE HAD THE DRAINAGE PROJECT.
WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON THE RESTORATION OF THE BOWLING AND BILLIARD PAVILION IN THE SUNKEN GARDENS AREA AND WE NEEDED SOME SOIL FOR THAT.
>> TO HELP WITH THIS PROJECT, CREWS STARTED DIGGING UP SOIL WHEN THEY FOUND SOMETHING UNUSUAL UNDERNEATH.
THE REMNANTS OF AN OLD PATHWAY.
CURIOUS, HARRIS WENT UP THE CHAIN OF COMMAND FOR PERMISSION TO KEEP DIGGING.
VICE PRESIDENT OF FRENCH LICK RESORT'S PARENT COMPANY COOK GROUP CHUCK FRANZ.
>> AFTER HITTING THAT, JUSTIN CAME TO ME AND SAID WE HIT THIS, WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS?
I TOOK HIM TO MY OFFICE AND SHOWED HIM HISTORIC AERIALS AND SAID IF YOU'D LIKE TO UNCOVER IT.
GO FOR IT.
NOT KNOWING EVER THAT THEY'D HIT WHAT THEY HIT.
>> WHAT THEY HIT WAS THE OLD NEPTUNE SPRING, WHICH WAS BUILT IN 1892.
A SPRING IS A PLACE WHERE WATER MOVING UNDERGROUND FINDS AN OPENING TO THE SURFACE, SOMETIMES IN A CONTINUOUS FLOW.
IN EARLY TIMES, THEY WERE SOMETIMES THE ONLY SOURCE OF FRESH WATER A COMMUNITY HAD.
>> IN THE EARLY DAYS THIS IS A LOCATION WHERE BUFFALO, DEER, A LOT OF WILDLIFE WOULD GATHER AND THEY WOULD LICK THE MINERALS FROM THE GROUND SPECIFICALLY OUT OF THE WATER.
IT BECAME KNOWN AS A PLACE FOR GOOD HUNTING GROUNDS SO THE NATIVE AMERICANS WOULD BE IN THIS AREA.
EVENTUALLY THERE WAS A FORT, A MUNITIONS DUMP HERE.
SO PEOPLE HAVE BEEN COMING TO THIS AREA BECAUSE OF THE MINERAL WATER.
>> THE SPRING WAS ONE OF FOUR MINERAL SPRINGS ON THE WEST BADEN HOTEL PROPERTY.
PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY FLOCKED TO THE AREA FOR ITS MEDICINAL PROPERTIES.
OLD PHOTOGRAPHS SHOW A 30 FOOT TALL WOODEN STRUCTURE SURROUNDED THE SPRING, WHICH WAS TOPPED OFF BY A DOME, GIVING TRAVELERS TO THE AREA A NICE SPOT TO STOP AND VISIT.
>> IT'S JUST BEEN A HOT SPOT FOR PEOPLE AND ANIMALS FOR A LONG TIME AND THAT'S WHAT ATTRACTED PEOPLE INTO THE AREA ORIGINALLY.
WHEN INDIANA BECAME A STATE THIS PORTION OF ORANGE COUNTY WAS THE ONLY PORTION OF ORANGE COUNTY THAT WASN'T SOLD AT PUBLIC AUCTION.
SURVEYED OFF AND SOLD AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTED TO MINE THE MINERALS FROM THIS AREA.
>> THE NEPTUNE SPRING WASN'T AROUND FOR LONG AS IT WAS NO LONGER IN USE BY THE 1910'S .
MOST OF THE OTHER SPRINGS ON THE PROPERTY WERE CAPPED, BUT TO HARRIS'S SURPRISE THIS SPRING IS STILL ACTIVE.
>> WHEN WE PULLED THE CONCRETE OUT OF THE SPRING THAT WAS THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE.
IT ACTUALLY RESTORED THE FLOWS BACK TO THE SPRING IN THE ORIGINAL LOCATION WHICH WAS COOL.
IT'S THE ONLY ACTIVE ORIGINAL SPRING TO THE WEST BADEN PROPERTY.
>> WHILE HARRIS AND HIS TEAM HOPE THEY'RE ABLE TO RESTORE THE SPRING TO ITS FORMER GLORY, THEY HAVE ANOTHER ISSUE TO DEAL WITH.
THAT'S FIGURING OUT HOW THE INITIAL SPRING WAS ABLE TO DRAIN.
>> I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY DID IT, BUT THE ORIGINAL SPRUDEL HOUSE WAS AN AREA THAT OUR GUESTS COULD COME TO AND SAMPLE THE WATER FROM ALL OF THE SPRINGS.
SO THAT WATER HAD TO GET PUMPED INTO THAT AREA INTO THIS SPRUDEL HOUSE FOR THE SAMPLING.
-- WE FOUND A 4-INCH CLAY TILE THAT EXITED THAT BASIN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS YET.
IT DOESN'T CURRENTLY WORK BUT WHEN WE TOOK SOME ELEVATIONS IT DOESN'T WANT TO WORK BY GRAVITY INTO THE CREEK.
>> HARRIS, WHO IS ALSO A LICENSED ENGINEER, IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE PROBLEM.
HE'S ALSO TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GO ABOUT RESTORING THE SPRING WHILE KEEPING THE HISTORY IN TACT.
>> THE PEOPLE BACK IN THE 1800S WERE CRAFTSMEN AND THEY DID A LOT OF WORK THAT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO REPLICATE WITHOUT GETTING TOO MUCH TECHNOLOGY INVOLVED AND YOU KNOW YOU KIND OF LOSE THE HISTORIC NATURE OF WHAT THAT WAS AND THE COST OF DOING THAT WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT.
>> HARRIS SAYS RIGHT NOW CREWS ARE WORKING ON THIS PROJECT WHILE JUGGLING SEVERAL OTHERS, WHICH IS WHY THERE IS NO SET TIME LINE FOR WHEN THIS WOULD BE COMPLETE.
HE DOES SAY COMPLETE RESTORATION OF THE SPRING WOULD PROBABLY COSTS TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
WHILE HARRIS AND OTHERS SAY THEY DON'T QUITE KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE HOLDS FOR THE SPRING, BEING A PART OF UNCOVERING HISTORY HAS BEEN A GREAT FEELING.
>> IT'S REALLY A WONDERFUL THING TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS AND TO SEE A PART OF HISTORY COME BACK TO LIFE.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE HISTORY OF THIS AREA.
I'M A NATIVE OF FRENCH LICK.
I'VE GROWN UP ON THESE GROUNDS AND ALL THE VARIOUS STATES THAT IT'S BEEN IN UNTIL THE RESTORATION AND KNOWING OF THINGS AND NOT KNOWING WHAT REMAINS.
THAT WAS MY CHILDHOOD AND NOW I GET TO BE A PART OF REDISCOVERING WHAT WAS HERE A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
>> YOU'RE A PART OF HISTORY.
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO BACK THAT FAR.
IT'S JUST REALLY COOL TO BE ABLE TO COME DOWN AND WORK ON A PROJECT THAT IS THE RESORT NUMBER ONE AND TRY TO REVITALIZE IT AND BRING BACK THE HISTORY FOR US GUESTS THAT ARE COMING HERE.
IT'S JUST REALLY COOL.
>> FOR FOLKS AT WEST BADEN SPRINGS HOTEL, THIS DISCOVERY HAS BREATHED NEW INTEREST IN THE AREA'S PAST WITH HOPES TO FURTHER UNVEIL WHAT LIES BENEATH.
REPORTING FOR VINCENNES PBS AND INDIANA NEWSDESK, I'M SHALEENA BARKER.
>> THE WEST BADEN SPRINGS HOTEL IS ONE OF THE BIG SUCCESS STORIES OF INDIANA LANDMARKS, A NON-PROFIT DEDICATED TO SAVING HISTORICAL BUILDINGS IN THE STATE.
EVERY YEAR SINCE 1991, THE GROUP HAS RELEASED A TOP 10 LIST OF ITS MOST ENDANGERED STRUCTURES.
THIS YEAR'S LIST INCLUDES A CRUMBLING 19TH CENTURY ASYLUM, A STRIKING ART DECO SKYSCRAPER AND A CHURCH BUILT BY A PIONEER AFRICAN AMERICAN ARCHITECT.
TO MAKE THE FINAL CUT, THE STRUCTURES MUST HAVE A CHANCE AT REVITALIZATION, EVEN IF THAT CHANCE IS SLIM.
WE'RE JOINED NOW BY MARK DOLLASE, THE VICE PRESIDENT OF PRESERVATION SERVICES FOR INDIANA LANDMARKS.
HE OVERSEES THE 10 MOST ENDANGERED PROGRAM.
WELCOME TO THE SHOW, MARK.
>> THANK YOU, GLAD TO BE HERE.
>> SO HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT SELECTING BUILDINGS FOR THE TOP TEN LIST?
>> WELL, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OFFICES AROUND THE STATE, AND THOSE STAFF THAT ARE IN THOSE OFFICES ARE VERY WELL CONNECTED TO THEIR COMMUNITIES THAT THEY WORK IN AND THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THEM.
SO THEY KNOW WHICH ONES ARE NICELY RESTORED, BUT ALSO WHICH ONES ARE THREATENED OR ENDANGERED THAT WE NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO.
>> WHY IS IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE THESE BUILDINGS, AND WHAT DOES THE DESIGNATION MEAN FOR THESE BUILDINGS?
>> YOU KNOW, WELL, FOR US AT INDIANA LANDMARKS, WHAT IT DOES, IT GIVES A KIND OF PRIORITY LIST THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON TO DEVELOP STRATEGIES FOR THESE SPECIFIC PROPERTIES, WHERE TO INVEST SOME OF OUR FINANCIAL AND HUMAN RESOURCES.
AND WE ALSO HOPE THAT IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT THESES BUILDINGS ARE LOCATED IN, THAT IT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO KIND OF COME TOGETHER AND I FIND SOLUTIONS FOR THESE PROPERTIES.
>> ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THIS YEAR IS THE STINESVILLE COMMERCIAL BUILDING, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF BLOOMINGTON.
IT'S BEEN FOR SALE FOR $1.
DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT PROPERTY?
>> NOT PARTICULARLY.
WE ARE REENGAGING WITH THE TOWN LEADERSHIP THERE RIGHT NOW AND TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE FUTURE FOR THOSE BUILDINGS MIGHT BE.
THEY ARE GETTING INTO PRETTY ROUGH CONDITION, AND SO FINDING A SOLUTION FOR HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE BUILDINGS, WHO SOME OF THE POTENTIAL USERS MIGHT BE, THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE PART OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON GOING FORWARD.
>> HOW SATISFYING IS IT TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THE WEST BADEN SPRINGS HOTEL COME BACK TO LIFE?
I'VE BEEN THERE A FEW TIMES, EVERY TIME I WALK IN, I GET GOOSE BUMPS, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU?
>> WELL, I DON'T WANT TO SAY HOW LONG AGO IT WAS THAT I STARTED WORKING ON THAT PROJECT, LONGER AGO THAN I WANT TO SAY, BUT IT IS REALLY REWARDING TO SEE SOMETHING THAT IS IN A STATE OF COLLAPSE, LIKE THAT BUILDING WAS, AND TO COME BACK AND NOT JUST BE A -- YOU KNOW, A BEAUTIFUL PLACE THAT PEOPLE GET TO ENJOY, THAT'S WONDERFUL, BUT ALSO THE MIC BENEFITS THAT A PLACE LIKE WEST BADEN BROUGHT TO THE SPRINGS VALLEY, PROBABLY SOMETHING LIKE 800 JOBS THAT HAD BEEN LOST WHEN IT CLOSED.
SO THAT IS A REAL BOON FOR ANY COMMUNITY THAT IS ABLE TO PUT A BUILDING BACK INTO USE.
>> ANY FAVORITE BUILDINGS ON THE LIST THIS YEAR THAT YOU'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE PRESERVED?
>> YOU KNOW, I HAVE A SOFT SPOT FOR A BUILDING UP IN GARY, WHICH IS THE JUTER-MEANS HOUSE, A SMALL RANCH-STYLE HOUSE, BUT THE MEANS BROTHERS WERE PIONEERING AFRICAN-AMERICAN DEVELOPERS OF HOUSING FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY THERE, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALREADY COME TOGETHER, CLEANED UP THE PROPERTY CONSIDERABLY SO.
WE ARE HOPING WE CAN FIND NEW LIFE FOR THAT RESIDENCE.
>> ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, APPRECIATE IT.
>> DEFINITELY, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
>>> PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO PAY THEIR ENERGY BILLS ARE MORE LIKELY TO DO RISKY, SOMETIMES DANGEROUS THINGS TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON.
INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING'S REBECCA THIELE REPORTS THAT'S ACCORDING TO A NEW STUDY FROM INDIANA UNIVERSITY'S ENERGY JUSTICE LAB.
>> LOWER-INCOME RESIDENTS WHO STRUGGLE WITH UTILITY BILLS WERE MORE LIKELY TO TAKE ON DEBT, GO WITHOUT FOOD OR MEDICINE, OR KEEP WARM BY OPENING THEIR OVENS AND RUNNING SPACE HEATERS AT NIGHT.
SANYA CARLEY IS A PROFESSOR AT I-U'S O'NEILL SCHOOL OF PUBLIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS.
SHE SAYS HER TEAM EXPECTED MORE PEOPLE WOULD USE SAFER STRATEGIES LIKE SEEKING GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE, GETTING ON UTILITY PAYMENT PLANS, AND BORROWING MONEY FROM FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
>>BUT IT REALLY IS THE MORE DRASTIC TECHNIQUES THAT HOUSEHOLDS ARE TURNING TO FIRST, WHICH I THINK REALLY UNDERSCORES THE DESPERATION THAT THEY'RE FEELING.
>> PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN POOR HOUSING, HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN, OR NEED ELECTRICITY FOR MEDICAL DEVICES ARE MORE LIKELY TO USE MULTIPLE COPING STRATEGIES.
>> TARGET THE ASSISTANCE TO HOUSEHOLDS WITH THESE PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE MEMBERS, SUCH AS YOUNG CHILDREN, OR MEDICALLY COMPROMISED INDIVIDUALS, IN PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS WHO RELY ON ELECTRONIC MEDICAL DEVICES.
>> FOR INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING, I'M REBECCA THIELE.
>>> THE INDIANA FOOTBALL TEAM HOSTS IDAHO ON SATURDAY NIGHT, A TEAM THE HOOSIERS BEAT BY FORTY-TWO POINTS LAST YEAR.
BUT HEAD COACH TOM ALLEN IS CONFIDENT THE HOOSIERS WON'T OVERLOOK THE VANDALS, WHO HAVE A NEW HEAD COACH AND A LOT OF NEW FACES.
IDAHO LOST ITS OPENER LAST WEEK AT WASHINGTON STATE.
>> FORTUNATELY, WE GOT A LOT OF NEW FACES.
AND WE GOT A TEAM FULL OF GUYS THAT SUFFERED REALLY BAD TASTE IN MOUTH ABOUT HOW THE SEASON WENT A YEAR AGO.
SO, TO ME, THAT COMBINATION IS GOING TO CREATE A FOCUS THAT IT ADDS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE TO PLAY OUR BEST FOOTBALL.
>> THE LAST TWO TIMES I-U HAS STARTED THE SEASON TWO-AND-OH, IT WENT TO A BOWL GAME.
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