
Indiana Newsdesk, Episode 1240 ,04/18/2025
Season 12 Episode 39 | 26m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Indiana homeowners will see some property tax relief under a new law, but it means less state dollar
Indiana homeowners will see some property tax relief under a new law, but it means less state dollars for public education. MCCSC is looking at ways to address the impending loss of revenue. Indiana University says it is working on protections for international students who had their visas revoked by the Trump administration. IU students also want the university to take a stand protecting free sp
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Indiana Newsdesk, Episode 1240 ,04/18/2025
Season 12 Episode 39 | 26m 45sVideo has Closed Captions
Indiana homeowners will see some property tax relief under a new law, but it means less state dollars for public education. MCCSC is looking at ways to address the impending loss of revenue. Indiana University says it is working on protections for international students who had their visas revoked by the Trump administration. IU students also want the university to take a stand protecting free sp
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship"INDIANA NEWSDESK" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY: >>> COMING UP ON "INDIANA NEWSDESK,," INDIANA HOMEOWNERS WILL SEE SOME PROPERTY TAX RELIEF UNDER A NEW LAW, BUT IT MEANS LESS STATE DOLLARS FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION.
>> THE ESTIMATES THAT WE HAVE HEARD SO FAR, ANYWHERE FROM 14.7 MILLION OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS TO ABOUT $17.2 MILLION.
>> MCCSC IS LOOKING AT WAYS TO ADDRESS THE IMPENDING LOSS OF REVENUE.
>> INDIANA UNIVERSITY SAYS IT'S WORKING ON PROTECTIONS FOR INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS WHO HAD THEIR VISAS REVOKED BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.
>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE -- THERE'S A PATHWAY TO DEGREE FOR EVERYONE WHO IS, LIKE, IMPACTED BY THIS BECAUSE IT'S JUST A HUGE INTERRUPTION.
>> I.U.
STUDENTS ALSO WANT THE UNIVERSITY TO TAKE A STAND PROTECTING FREE SPEECH ON CAMPUS.
>>> AND SENATOR TODD YOUNG FACES QUESTIONS ABOUT TARIFFS FROM COOK'S PRESIDENT AT A BLOOMINGTON CHAMBER EVENT.
THESE STORIES AND MORE, RIGHT NOW ON "INDIANA NEWSDESK."
>> WELCOME TO "INDIANA NEWSDESK."
I'M JOE HREN.
WELL, INDIANA HOMEOWNERS ARE GETTING PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AFTER GOVERNOR MIKE BRAUN SIGNED HIS SIGNATURE LEGISLATION INTO LAW THIS WEEK.
IT'S GOING TO SAVE HOOSIERS UP TO $300 A YEAR.
IT WILL COST SOME LOCAL SCHOOL MILLIONS.
TEACHER UNION AND SCHOOL DISTRICT LEADERS ARE BRACING FOR CUTS AND REPORTER AUBREY WRIGHT HAS DETAILS ON JUST HOW MUCH MONROE COUNTY SCHOOLS COULD LOSE.
[ CROWD SHOUTING ] >> THE INDIANA STATE TEACHERS ASSOCIATION IS WORRIED ABOUT PUBLIC EDUCATION.
HUNDREDS.
TEACHERS, STUDENTS AND SUPPORTERS RALLIED AT THE INDIANA STATEHOUSE SAYING THEY WANT BETTER SUPPORT FROM THEIR LEGISLATORS.
>> WE WILL PUSH THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO ENSURE THAT PUBLIC DOLLARS STAY WITH PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
[ CHEERS ] >> 90% OF INDIANA'S STUDENTS ATTEND PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WHICH ARE PROJECTED TO LOSE MILLIONS AFTER TAX CUTS AND SOME WILL HAVE TO SHARE THEIR SHRINKING REVENUE WITH CHARTER SCHOOLS.
>> WE ARE TAKING OUR RAGE, WE ARE TAKING OUR LOVE, WE ARE TAKING OUR PRAYERS AND WE ARE DEMANDING THAT YOU, POLITICIANS, DO WHAT HOOSIER UNIONS AND KIDS NEED, FUND OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
[ CHEERS ] >> THE MONROE COUNTY COMMUNITY SCHOOL CORPORATION WAS ALREADY TRYING TO BALANCE ITS BUDGET WITH REDUCED SPENDING.
NOW, THEY'RE LIKELY TO MISS OUT ON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
>> THE ESTIMATES THAT WE HAVE HEARD SO FAR, ANYWHERE FROM 14.7 MILLION OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS TO ABOUT $17.2 MILLION.
>> WINSTON AND NOBLE CUE CHERA ARE GRATEFUL THAT MONROE COUNTY TAXPAYERS HAVE COMMITTED TO FUNDING SCHOOLS THROUGH REFERENDUMS BUT THEY DON'T EXPECT TO GET THE DOLLARS THAT THEY HAVE VOTED ON.
MCCSC STUDENTS WON'T BEAR THE BRUNT OF THE CUTS AND SHE DOESN'T EXPECT THE QUALITY OF EDUCATION TO DECREASE.
>> WE WILL FIGURE OUT WHAT DOES THAT NEW NORMAL LOOK LIKE AND TODAY I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NEW NORMAL IS GOING TO BE, BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY COMMITTED TO FIGURING THAT OUT, NOBLE KUCHERA SAYS IT'S POSSIBLE THEY COULD LOSE EXTRA CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES OR SEE BIGGER CLASS SIZES.
INDIANA ALREADY HAS A TEACHER SHORTAGE AND PAY IS A REDURING ISSUE.
>> TEACHERS -- RECURRING ISSUES.
>> TEACHERS ARE GREAT BUT WE ARE NOT MAGICIANS.
>> THERE COULD BE STAFFING CUTS AND SHE SAYS THERE WILL BE MORE TO SHARE IN THE FUTURE.
>> I CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO GIVE YOU ANYTHING MORE SPECIFIC, BUT STAFFING IS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT EXPENDITURE THAT ANY SCHOOL CORPORATION HAS.
WE WOULD TAKE EVERYTHING UNDER CONSIDERATION.
WE WOULD ENGAGE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR ADMINISTRATION, OUR TEACHERS, AND FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE GO FORWARD?
>> THERE HAVE BEEN INTENSE HOURS LONG DEBATES IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ABOUT THESE CONCERNS.
K-12 EDUCATION STILL MAKES UP ALMOST HALF OF INDIANA'S BUDGET, AND IT DID GET A 2% INCREASE THIS YEAR.
BUT GOVERNOR MIKE BRAUN SIGNED THAT TAX PLAN INTO LAW.
HE SAYS IT WILL BENEFIT NEARLY EVERY HOOSIER AND TWO-THIRDS OF HOMEOWNERS ARE GOING TO PAY LESS.
SENATE EDUCATION COMMITTEE CHAIR JEFF RAATZ SAYS IT'S CREATED A LOT OF CONVERSATION.
>> WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT THE DOLLARS AND WE SHOULD ARGUE ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A CONSIDERATION AND A PROBLEM, RIGHT?
>> HE SAYS TAX REVENUE IS USUALLY STEADY AND RELIABLE INCOME, AND SOME SCHOOLS AREN'T GOING TO GET WHAT THEY EXPECTED.
THE SENATE IS AWARE OF THESE CONCERNS.
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS AND IT'S IN THE EYES OF BEHOLDER.
DEPENDING WHAT SCREEN THEY LOOK THROUGH, WHETHER THEY WIN OR LOSE.
>> ASIDE FROM PROPERTY TAXES THERE'S ANOTHER BIG ISSUE, PUBLIC SCHOOLS SET NEW STUDENTS TO CHARTER SCHOOLS WILL HAVE TO SHARE THEIR TAX REVENUE.
[ CROWD SHOUTING ] >> CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE OPEN ENROLLMENT POLICIES AND THEY ARE OVERSEEN BY NONPROFIT BOARDS, BUT SOME SCHOOLS MAY NOT HAVE ENOUGH OPEN SPOTS TO MEET THE DEMAND AND SO STUDENTS ARE ADMITTED BASED ON A LOTTERY SYSTEM.
PUBLIC SCHOOL ADVOCATES OPPOSE SHARING REVENUE, SAY THEY ARE ALREADY UNDERFUNDED.
WINSTON SAYS NOTHING IS FINALIZED YET.
>> WE FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT PUBLIC SCHOOL DOLLARS SHOULD STAY IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS SO THAT WE CAN, IN FACT, EDUCATE OUR STUDENTS THE WAY THEY DESERVE TO BE EDUCATED.
>> FOR "INDIANA NEWSDESK," I'M AUBREY WRIGHT.
>> ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE FOR THE STATE BUDGET AS LAWMAKERS WILL HAVE $2 BILLION LEFT TO SPEND THAN PREVIOUSLY EXPECTED.
INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING'S BRANDON SMITH REPORTS THE STATE REVENUE FORECAST UNVEILED ON WEDNESDAY IS THE WORST SINCE AT LEAST THE GREAT RECESSION OF 2008.
>> NATIONAL ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY IS DRIVING THE SHARP DECLINE IN PROJECTED TAX REVENUE, $2.4 BILLION LESS OVER A THREE-YEAR PERIOD THAN WHAT WAS EXPECTED JUST FOUR MONTHS AGO.
SENATE BUDGET ARCHITECT RYAN MISHLER SAYS THESE NUMBERS SCARE HIM A LOT MORE THAN DURING GREAT RECESSION.
>> BACK THEN WE HAD FEDERAL MONEY TO BACKFILL IT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY FEDERAL MONEY TOKING BACKFILL IT.
ALL OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE FROM BUDGET CUTS TO INCREASING SOME TAXES LIKE THOSE ON CIGARETTES OR TAXES.
DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVE, GREG PORTER SAYS K-12 EDUCATION SHOULD BE SPARED.
>> WE DON'T HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION SYSTEM, ET CETERA.
PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO COME HERE.
WE CREATE A PIPELINE OF DEVELOPMENT.
>> LAWMAKERS INTEND TO FINALIZE THE BUDGET WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
FOR INDIANA PUBLIC BROADCASTING, I'M BRANDON SMITH AT THE STATEHOUSE.
>> GOVERNOR MIKE BRAUN MADE HIS MAKE INDIANA HEALTHY INITIATIVE WHICH INCLUDES NINE EXECUTIVE ORDERS MEANT TO ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING CAUSES OF HEALTH ISSUES.
ALMOST HALF OF THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS FOCUS ON OVERHAULING INDIANA'S SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, OR SNAP.
THE REST COVER A WIDE RANGE OF TOPICS INCLUDING ACCESS TO LOCAL FOOD AND DIET-RELATED CHRONIC DISEASE.
BUT FOR SOME HOOSIERS, HEALTHY CHOICES CAN BE INACCESSIBLE DUE TO FOOD DESERTS AND HIGH COSTS.
BRAUN SAYS IT'S NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S JOB TO SOLVE THOSE ISSUES.
>> WE GOT TO FIND OUT ENTREPRENEURIAL WAYS OF ADDRESSING IT, THROUGH THE FOLKS THAT PRODUCE IT, AND NOT NECESSARILY JUST ASKING FOR MORE TO GET IT DONE.
>> FEDERAL OFFICIALS SAY BRAUN'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS ALIGN WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S MAKE AMERICA HEALTHY AGAIN CAMPAIGN AND ENCOURAGE OTHER STATES TO FOLLOW INDIANA'S LEAD.
>> I ALSO WANT TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO ENCOURAGE GOVERNORS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO FOLLOW THE LEAD OF INDIANA.
>> INDIANA'S THE FIRST STATE TO MAKE CANDY AND SOFT DRINKS INELIGIBLE FOR SNAP BENEFITS.
>>> WELL, NOW WE ARE JOINED BY CLAYTON BAUMGARTH FOR MORE HEADLINES FROM AROUND THE STATE.
HIGH, CLAYTON.
>> HEY, JOE THANK YOU.
>> FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY IN HIGHER EDUCATION ESCALATED LAST WEEK AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THREATENS TO STRIP FUNDING TO UNIVERSITIES AND REVOKED MORE STUDENT VISAS.
AS ETHAN SANDWEISS REPORTS, INDIANA UNIVERSITY IS STARTING TO FEEL THE CONSEQUENCES.
♪ TO THE MEXICAN BORDER, TO SEND THEIR MONEY WAY BACK AGAIN ♪ ♪ >> BLOOMINGTON APPROACHES ONE YEAR SINCE THE PROTESTS ROCKED CAMPUS AND THEY VOTED NO CONFIDENCE IN I.U.
LEADERSHIP.
THIS SPRING THEY ARE SPEAKING OUT ON A NEW SET OF CHALLENGES SOME FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND SOME WITHIN THE UNIVERSITY.
>> TODAY IT'S A BIG BROAD TENT OF FACULTY, STUDENTS, STAFF, STANDING TOGETHER AND WANTING TO DO BETTER FOR THE UNIVERSITY AND HOLD THE ADMINISTRATION ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE PROBLEMS THEY ARE CREATING.
>> XIAOFENG WANG, WHO I.U.
FIRED THE DAY THE FBI INVESTIGATED HIS HOME.
ON THURSDAY, HIS FORMER DEPARTMENT CHAIR SAID A DIFFERENT RESEARCHER IN CHINA HAD APPLIED FOR THE GRANT WITHOUT WANG'S KNOWLEDGE.
>> XIAOFENG SAID HE WAS NOT AWARE OF SUCH GRANT.
>> HIS WIFE WHO WAS ALSO FIRED BY I.U.
SPOKE PUBLICLY ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE FOR THE FIRST TIME THIS WEEK.
>> I THOUGHT IT MUST BE A BAD DREAM.
I JUST CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE UNIVERSITY, TO WHICH WE DEDICATE OVER TWO DECADES OF OUR LIVES TO, COULD TREAT US LIKE THIS.
>> NEITHER I.U.
NOR THE FBI HAS COMMENTED ON THEIR INVESTIGATIONS.
IS INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS AT I. U.
AND OTHER UNIVERSITIES IN THE STATE HAVE HAD THEIR VISAS REVOKED.
APPARENTLY FOR MINOR OFFENSED AND DROPPED CHARGES AND OTHERS WITH NO EXPLANATION AT ALL.
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SAYS IT WILL BEGIN REVOKING VISAS FOR STUDENTS WHO PARTICIPATE IN PROTESTS OR POST CERTAIN CONTENT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
>> IT FEELS AS IF WE ARE THROWN INTO THIS NATIONAL POLITICS SEEN OUT OF NOWHERE, AND THERE WAS NO HELPING HAND TO ASSIST US.
>> THE UNIVERSITY SAYS STUDENTS WHO HAD THEIR VISAS REVOKED CAN REMAIN IN CLASSES.
>> THE AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION TRIED TO STOP IT.
A FACULTY BOARD IS CHALLENGING THE UNIVERSITY'S ENFORCEMENT OF A CONTROVERSIAL SPEECH POLICY, USED TO PENALIZE PROFESSORS WHO PROTESTED AT THE SAMPLE GATES LAST FALL.
SANCTIONS AGAINST FACULTY WERE, QUOTE, EXCESSIVE.
THE I. U. BLOOMINGTON PROVOST HAS 30 DAYS TO RESPOND.
[ CROWD CHANTING ] >> CAMPUS ACTIVISTS LED A MARCH ON THURSDAY FROM THEIR DAY OF ACTION EVENT AT FRANKLIN HALL TO DUNN MEADOW.
A SYMBOLIC RETURN TO THE SITE OF LAST YEAR'S PRO PALESTINE ENCAMPMENT.
>> WE GAVE THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES WHO REWARDS A PRESIDENT FOR VIOLENCE AGAINST STUDENTS.
>> THIS YEAR, THERE WERE NO STATE POLICE WAITING TO CONFRONT THEM, ONLY A LIGHT RAIN.
FOR "INDIANA NEWSDESK," I'M ETHAN SANDWEISS.
>> YOU CAN FOLLOW OUR CONTINUING COVERAGE OF THESE DEVELOPING STORIES AT WTIUNEWS.ORG.
>>> THE INDIANA SUPREME COURT WEDNESDAY SIGNED OFF ON MAY 20th AS DATE FOR THE EXECUTION OF BENJAMIN RICHIE.
RICHIE WAS SENTENCED TO DEATH BY A JURY IN 2002, FOR THE SHOOTING DEATH TWO YEARS EARLIER OF A BEECH GROVE POLICE OFFICER.
HE WOULD BE THE SECOND STATE PRISONER PUT TO DEATH AT THE INDIANA STATE PRISON IN MICHIGAN CITY SINCE STATE RESUMED EXECUTIONS IN DECEMBER AFTER A 15-YEAR LULL.
>>> THE INDIANA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION SHARED PLANS FOR THE MIDSTATE'S CORRIDOR PROJECT ON WEDNESDAY EVENING AT THE JASPER MIDDLE SCHOOL.
DURING THE EVENT, THE RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH PROJECT REPRESENTATIVES AND VIEW DRAFTS OF HOW THE HIGHWAY MAY BE ROUTED THROUGH THE AREA.
SOME RESIDENTS WHERE WEARING NO TO THE MIDSTATE CORRIDOR HATS AND SHIRTS.
>> IF THIS ROAD GOES THROUGH, MY FARM WILL BE ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED.
WE HAVE GOT ACTUALLY FOUR PARCELS ON THE FARM THAT HAVE RECEIVED THE HOOSIER HOMESTEAD AWARD THIS WOULD GO THROUGH ALL FOUR OF THEM.
>> THE HOOSIER HOMESTEAD AWARD IS GIVEN TO FARMS THAT HAVE HELD OWNERSHIP FOR AT LEAST 100 YEARS.
THE CORRIDOR WILL EVENTUALLY CONNECT U.S. 64 AND 69, ROUGHLY FOLLOWING U.S. HIGHWAY 231.
>>> SHOPPERS CAN EXPECT HIGHER THAN NORMAL EGG PRICES THROUGH THE EASTER WEEKEND.
LAST MONTH, CONSUMERS PAID OVER $6 ON AVERAGE FOR A STANDARD DOZEN.
THAT'S THE HIGHEST EVER RECORDED ACCORDING TO BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS.
THEY MAY PAY LESS IN THE UPCOMING WEEKS.
THE WHOLE SALE PRICES HAVE GONE DOWN, BUT IT COULD TAKE A FEW WEEKS TO BE REFLECTED IN GROCERY STORES.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
COMING UP NEXT ON "INDIANA NEWSDESK," COOK GROUP'S PRESIDENT GRILLED SENATOR TODD YOUNG ABOUT THE IMPACT OF TARIFFS ON THE LOCAL ECONOMY.
>>> AND FORMER RESIDENTS OF MALIBU HOUSE SPEAK OUT AFTER HOUR STORY ABOUT ITS OWNER AND HIS FOR-PROFIT SOBER LIVING RESIDENCES.
>>> THESE STORIES AND MORE RIGHT HERE ON "INDIANA NEWSDESK."
>> WELCOME BACK TO "INDIANA NEWSDESK."
WELL, SENATOR TODD YOUNG APPEARED AT A BLOOMINGTON CHAMBER OF COMMERCE EVENT ON TUESDAY, MODERATED BY COOK GROUP PRESIDENT PETE YONKMAN.
YOUNG FACED QUESTIONS INSIDE ABOUT THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.
>> YOUNG WALKED A CAREFUL LINE, BOTH SUPPORTING TRUMP'S ECONOMIC POLICIES AND ADVOCATING COURSE CORRECTIONS, THAT INCLUDED ON TARIFFS WHICH ARE IMPACTING THE COOK GROUP.
>> WE ARE HIT WITH LOSING THE MARKET SHARE IN CHINA ALONG WITH, FOR US, ABOUT $175 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL TARIFFS A YEAR.
NOW, WE'RE A $2.5 BILLION COMPANY SO YOU CAN DO THE MATH.
>> I AGREE WITH 90% OF -- WITH WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS ATTEMPTING TO DO.
MAYBE ON THAT 10%, I DISPARATELY DISCUSSED THINGS.
>> HE ASKED ABOUT THE CUTS BY D.O.G.E.
HE SAYS THE CUTS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT CONTINUED INVESTMENT IN SOME OF HIS PRIORITY AREAS.
>> D.O.G.E., GOING TO SAVE $2 TRILLION.
SHOW ME.
AND OH, BY THE WAY, IF YOU CLAIM IT'S GONNA SAVE $2 TRILLION, ARE WE STILL INVESTING IN HIGHER ED?
WE STILL INVESTING IN RESEARCH?
ARE WE STILL INVESTING IN BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE?
>> AS SENATOR, YOUNG HAS PRIORITIZED DEVELOPING INDIANA'S HIGH-TECH INDUSTRY, BLOOMINGTON BUSINESS LEADERS WORRY TRUMP'S TRADE AND DEVELOPMENT POLICIES COULD ROLL BACK SOME OF THAT PROGRESS.
MORE THAN 100 PEOPLE PROTESTED YOUNG'S SPEECH, CRITICIZING HIS SUPPORT FOR PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP'S AGENDA.
>> THIS IS A MAN WHO DOESN'T REPRESENT OUR BELIEFS, WHO DOESN'T REPRESENT OUR IDEALS FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO BUILD IN THIS COUNTRY AND THIS STATE.
THIS IS A PROBLEM HE NEEDS TO FIX AND HE NEEDS TO DO IT RIGHT NOW OR WE WILL MAKE THAT FIX COME NOVEMBER.
>> AT ONE POINT THE CHANTING OUTSIDE BECAME SO AUDIBLE, YOUNG DECIDED TO ADDRESS IT.
>> ONE THE OTHER THINGS AS BUSINESSES, WE SORT OF UNDERSTAND -- >> THINK OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
>> YOU CAN HEAR THE PEOPLE ASKING FOR ACCOUNTABILITY.
>> IT'S THE SOUND OF FREEDOM.
>> YES.
>> LIKE OTHER SENATE REPUBLICANS YOUNG HAS STOPPED HOLING TOWN HALLS WITH CONSTITUENTS.
HE SAYS HE STILL MEETS WITH SMALLER GROUPS.
>> THEY HAVE BECOME POLITICAL CAMPAIGN ARMS AS OPPOSED TO REAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO SPEAK UP AND LEARN MORE ABOUT MY PERSPECTIVES.
>> BLOOMINGTON POLICE GAVE SOME PROTESTERS AN ORDER FOR DEMONSTRATED IN THE PARKING LOT.
GATHERING DISPERSED SHORTLY AFTER.
FOR "INDIANA NEWSDESK," I'M EAT AND SAND WEISS.
>> MALIBU HAS FOUR RECOVERY HOMES.
THEY OFFER THE BEDS FOR $125 A WEEK.
LAST MONTH, WE HAD A STORY ABOUT ISSUES OF TRANSPARENCY WITH THE BUSINESS AND MECKES RECORD.
>> MALIBU HOUSE WAS AMBIGUOUS ABOUT HOW IT RECEIVED AND USED COMMUNITY DONATIONS.
AFTER THAT STORY, I HEARD FROM FORMER RESIDENTS ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES.
WE LEARNED MORE ABOUT THE BUSINESS NEXT DOOR TO MALIBU HOUSE, TO THE MALIBU HOUSE HEADQUARTERS.
IT'S CALLED IMPOSSIBLE, THE MOVEMENT, BUT THEY DIDN'T RESPOND TO REQUESTS FOR INTERVIEW.
AFTER THE INTERVIEW WITH MALIBU, MECKES WOULD ONLY ANSWER QUESTIONS OVER EMAIL ABOUT LIVING CONDITIONS AND BUSINESS OPERATIONS.
COMMUNITY SERVICE PROVIDERS SAY AT THE VERY LEAST THE ALLEGED PRACTICES OF MALIBU HOUSE DON'T SERVE RECOVERING ADDICTS WELL.
AFTER WTIU'S REPORT IN MARCH, SEVERAL FORMER RESIDENTS SHARED ISSUES THEY HAD WITH LIVING CONDITIONS AT MALIBU.
UNCOMPENSATED LABOR, BROKEN APPLIANCES AND A CAMERA INSTALLED IN A BEDROOM.
>> THERE WAS A CAMERA POINTED STRAIGHT AT MY BED WHERE I LAY DOWN.
>> IT WAS CHRIS MAXI'S FIRST TIME IN SOBER LIVING.
HE HAS PHOTOS AND VIDEO THAT HE SAYS SHOW A CAMERA IN A BEDROOM WHERE HE STAYED AT MALIBU.
>> I SAID, I FEEL VIOLATED.
AND I SAID, I'M NOT SIGNING ANYTHING TO PUT THAT CAMERA RIGHT THERE, SO YOU CAN RECORD ME.
I WAS LIKE, MAN, YOU NEED TO MOVE THAT CAMERA.
>> MAXI SAYS HE HELPED TO PAINT A HOUSE FOR MECKES.
HE SAID HE WOULD PAY ME FOR IT AND THE FLOOR JOB THAT I DID.
I NEVER GOT PAID FOR IT.
>> ANOTHER FORMER RESIDENT SAYS PHOTOS ON MALIBU'S WEBSITE DON'T REFLECT THE REALITY OF LIVING THERE.
CROWDED ROOMS.
>> THERE WERE, ONE, TWO, THREE, BUNK BEDS IN THERE WITH SIX GUYS.
>> AND BROKEN APPLIANCES AND MOLD.
>> THAT'S MAKING A STRUGGLING PERSON -- A PERSON STRUGGLING WITH ADDICTION OR MENTAL ISSUE THINK I'M COMING TO A NICE, CLEAN HOME AND THEY ARE NOT.
THEY ARE NOT COMING TO A NICE, CLEAN PLACE.
AND TO THROW IN THERE, YOU CAN'T USE YOUR SHOWER, YOU CAN'T USE YOUR BATHROOM.
>> MECKES DENIES HAVING A CAMERA OR UNPAID WORK.
MALIBU USED TO DESCRIBE ITSELF AS A CHARITY ORGANIZATION ON FACEBOOK BUT THAT WAS REMOVED AFTER OUR PREVIOUS STORY.
MECKES SAYS BEING FOR PROFIT IS KEY TO ITS OPERATION.
>> THEY NEED TO GET CLEARANCE THROUGH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND GO THROUGH DIFFERENT CHAINS OF COMMAND.
AMANDA, AND I OWNING OUR OWN BUSINESS ARE ABLE TO MAKE THE DECISIONS AND SEE THE NEEDS AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE DONE AND DECIDE HOW TO DIRECT OUR BUSINESS IN THAT FORM.
I MEAN, IT'S FREE MARKET AT ITS FINEST.
>> BUT SOME LOCAL SERVICE PROVIDERS STAY MECKES IS NOT CLEAR ABOUT THIS.
ZOEY VERTERAMO, THE COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER, SAYS MECKES INDICATED TO HABITAT'S STORE THAT HE WAS THE OWNER OF A NONPROFIT AND ASKED ABOUT RECEIVING A NONPROFIT ON RESTORE ITEMS.
OTHERS FOUND OUT THAT THEY WERE FOR PROFIT IN FEBRUARY, DESPITE WORKING WITH MECKES FOR SEVERAL MONTHS PREVIOUSLY.
>> ONE GROUP THAT DOES APPEAR AWARE OF MALIBU'S OPERATIONS IS ANOTHER FOR-PROFIT RECOVERY SERVICE, IMPOSSIBLE TO MOVEMENT, RUN BY JOSHUA SINN.
HE APPEARED ON MULTIPLE PODCASTS DISCUSSING IMPOSSIBLE'S MISSION.
>> ULTIMATELY IT'S AN UMBRELLA WHERE PEOPLE DISCOVER THEIR PURPOSE.
FOR ME, IT WAS A PATH BACK TO PEOPLE, WHO EXPERIENCED ADDICTION, AND RECIDIVISM.
>> IT'S POSSIBLE.
IT'S AN ALCHEMY TYPE VIBE.
>> MALIBU AND IMPOSSIBLE LIST EX-OTHER AS PARTNERS.
THE FACEBOOK PAGE USED TO SAY HE WAS THE COMPANY'S BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
HE CHANGED IT AFTER WTIU'S INQUIRY.
THE PARTNERSHIP'S AMBIGUITY MADE SOME MALIBU RESIDENTS QUESTIONED WHO BENEFITS FROM DONATIONS MADE TO EITHER.
SINN LISTED THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF GYM EQUIPMENT ON FACEBOOK MARKETPLACE, WHICH THE BLOOMINGTON HYATT HOTEL SAYS IT DONATED TO MALIBU HOUSE DURING A REMODEL.
MECKES SAYS THE FITNESS EQUIPMENT WAS NOT A DONATION.
>> THEY ARE NOT MAINTAINING THE HOUSES.
THEY ARE NOT PUTTING NO MONEY BACK INTO THESE HOUSES.
>> AI CAN DIDDION SERVICES, ESPECIALLY RECOVERY HOUSING IS IN DEMAND IN BLOOMINGTON.
MARILYN GRIMES SAYS HER ORGANIZATION, ENCOURAGE TO CHANGE, HAS HUNDREDS OF APPLICATIONS FOR THE 41 BEDS.
BAD CONDITIONS AND UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENT CAN IMPACT SOMEONE'S RECOVERY.
HER HOMES ARE CERTIFIED WITH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF RECOVERY RESIDENCES WHICH REQUIRES BEDROOMS HAVE 50 SQUARE FEET PER PERSON.
AND CAMERAS SHOULD NEVER BE IN BEDROOMS OR BATHROOMS.
>> WHEN YOU ARE COMING OUT OF ADDICTION, YOU NEED RESPECT.
BECAUSE YOU GOT YOUR OWN -- YOU HAVE YOUR OWN NEGATIVE FEELINGS ABOUT YOURSELF.
THAT'S PART OF COMING OUT OF ADDICTION.
SO YOU NEED TO BE BUILT UP.
AND HAVE PEOPLE RESPECT YOU AND TREAT YOU WITH RESPECT.
>> IN MARCH, SINN APPEARED ON A PODCAST WHERE DONATIONS TO HIS COMPANY WERE SOLICITED.
>> ANYONE WANTING TO TAKE A MONETARY DONATION, THEY ARE MORE THAN WELCOME.
>> HE ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO BUY THE T-SHIRTS ON HIS YOUTUBE PAGE.
>> YOU CAN GO TO IMPOSSIBLEMOVEMENT.COM.
>> SINN DID NOT RESPOND TO THE REQUESTS FOR AN INTERVIEW.
HE TOLD POD COAST HOSTS IN MARCH HE PLANS TO EXPAND ON IMPOSSIBLE MOVEMENT.
>> I'M NOT PERFECT, BUT REMEMBER, IF YOU NEVER GIVE UP, YOU CAN'T LOSE GONNA MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS NECESSARY AND I WILL BE OPEN, HONEST TO THE PEOPLE AROUND ME.
>> YES, SO BENTE AS WE JUST HEARD, SINN DID NOT RESPOND TO A REQUEST FOR INTERVIEW WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT HIM?
>> SINN GOT OUT OF PRISON LAST YEAR, AFTER SERVING MORE THAN 10 YEARS FOR AN ALLEGED STRANGLING OF HIS GIRLFRIEND.
HE PLEADED GUILTY TO CRIMINAL CONFINEMENT WHILE ARMED WITH A DEADLY WEAPON.
>> SO HOW HAS MALIBU RESPONDED TO OUR REPORTING.
>>> MALIBU HAS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM CONTACTING THEM FURTHER.
THEY REMOVED CHARITY ORGANIZATION FROM THE FACEBOOK DESCRIPTION OF ITS FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS.
>> OKAY, BENTE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPORTING.
APPRECIATE IT.
>> THAT'S THE END OF THIS PROGRAM, BUT OUR WORK CONTINUES ONLINE.
AS WE COVER THE NEWS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK, AT WTIUNEWS.ORG.
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
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