>>> WE SIT DOWN WITH THE FOUR CANDIDATES VYING TO SUCCEED EMBATTLED REPUBLICAN SECRETARY OF STATE DIEGO MORALES IN NEXT MONTH'S MIDTERM ELECTION.

>>> THE INDIANA FARM BUREAU ANNOUNCES THE PRIORITIES FOR HELPING THE AGRICULTURAL FIELDS.

>> AND THE PROS AND CONS OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE RUSH TO BUILD DATA CENTERS.

WE'LL HAVE THESE STORIES AND MORE COMING UP ON "INDIANA NEWSDESK."

>>> "INDIANA NEWSDESK" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY: >>> WELCOME TO "INDIANA NEWSDESK."

I'M JOE HREN.

WELL, PERHAPS THE BIGGEST STATEWIDE RACE IN INDIANA IS FOR SECRETARY OF STATE WHERE FOUR CANDIDATES ARE VYING TO REPLACE EMBATTLED REPUBLICAN DIEGO MORALELESS.

THEY DECIDED NOT TO RERUN MORALES, THEY ARE RUNNING MAX ENGLING, HE WILL FACE BEAU BAYH, WHO IS THE GRANDSON OF BIRCH BAYH.

GREG BALLARD A FORMER TWO-TIME REPUBLICAN MAYOR OF INDIANAPOLIS AND LIBERTARIAN LAURIE SHILLING WHO IS CREATIVE DIRECTOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF INDIANAPOLIS.

WFYI'S BEN THORPE SAT DOWN WITH EACH CANDIDATE TO TALK ABOUT THEIR POSITIONS AND WHY THEY WOULD BE BEST SUITED TO SUCCEED MORALES.

>> THE TOP ONE, OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE OFFICE.

I WILL NOT BE ENDORSING OR FUNDRAISING OTHER CANDIDATES, I WILL NOT ACCEPT DONATIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THAT OFFICE.

ONCE YOU ARE IN THAT OFFICE, YOU NEED TO BE INDEPENDENT OF THAT OFFICE.

AND I WOULD SUGGEST I'M THE ONLY CANDIDATE WHO WILL SAY THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL PARTY AFFILIATED AND THEY WILL ENDORSE OTHER CANDIDATES.

IMAGINE IF YOU WERE RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND SECRETARY OF STATE WHO IS OVERSEEING THE ELECTIONS IN THE STATE, IS CAMPAIGNING FOR YOUR OPPONENT.

I THINK THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING FOR QUITE A WHILE AND IT NEEDS TO CHANGE.

THE OFFICE HAS TO BE INDEPENDENT AND ONCE I'M OUT OF THERE, I HOPE THAT BECOMES THE STANDARD FOR THE STATE OF INDIANA AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT INTO THE FUTURE.

>> MY FIRST ACT AS SECRETARY OF STATE IS GOING TO BE TO OPEN AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF THIS OFFICE.

THE CURRENT SECRETARY OF STATE HAS WASTED TAXPAYER MONEY IN WAYS THAT WAS UNACCEPTABLE, HE SPENT $92,000 ON A LUXURY SUV FOR HIMSELF.

THAT'S MORE THAN THE AVERAGE HOOSIER MAKES IN AN ENTIRE YEAR.

HE HIRED FAMILY MEMBERS AND TOOK TRIPS ALL OVER THE WORLD AND WON'T SAY WHO IS PAYING FOR THEM.

SO I DON'T CARE WHAT POLITICAL PARTY YOU COME FROM, WE CAN'T TOLERATE THAT TYPE OF WASTE AND INSIDER DEALER IN OUR STATE GOVERNMENT.

SO MY FIRST ACT IS GOING TO BE TO OPEN AN INDEPENDENT OFFICE AND MAKE SURE WHEN HOOSIERS ARE WORKING REALLY HARD AND PAYING THEIR TAX MONEY, IT'S GOING TOWARDS GOOD THINGS, BETTER ROADS AND BRIDGES, SAFER STREETS.

>> WE ARE PRESSING VERY HARD THAT WE DEFEND THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTIONS AND UPHOLD CONSERVATIVE VALUES AND PART OF THE WAY OF DOING THAT IS ENSURING THAT ONLY CITIZENS ARE VOTING IN OUR ELECTIONS.

RIGHT NOW, YOU HAVE FOLKS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY VOTING THAT ARE ILLEGAL TO THE UNITED STATES, AND THEN FOLKS WHO ARE HERE LEGALLY BUT NOT ELIGIBLE TO VOTE.

AND WE DID SEE SOME OF THAT COME OUT IN ADDITION LAST NIGHT, WITH WHAT THE PRESIDENT ANNOUNCED.

BUT WE'RE ALSO PUSHING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THINGS LIKE A TRANSPARENCY PORTAL.

SO YOU BRING SUN LIGHT TO ISSUES THAT FOLKS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL MAY BE BRINGING UP AND THEN ALSO WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE BUSINESS FILING FRAUD THAT WE HAVE SEEN WITH COMPANIES THAT ARE CREATING SHELL LLCs, AND THEN DEFRAUDING HOOSIERS OR PUTTING DANGEROUS DRIVERS ON THE ROAD IF IT COMES TO SOME OF THESE FRAUDULENT TRUCKING COMPANIES.

>> ONE THE FIRST THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH IN THIS ROLE IS SINCE IT'S A SERVICE ROLE IS THE FIRST PORTAL OF BUSINESS, WHEN THEY COME INTO THE STATE OF INDIANA, I REALLY WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH THE WEBSITE.

THAT'S MY TOP PRIORITY AT THIS POINT.

FROM THE STATE DOWN TO LOCAL AREAS, I WANT TO MAKE IT A UNIFIED EFFORT SO THAT WHEN LOCAL COUNTY CLERKS GO TO FILE PAPERWORK, UPLOAD ANY OF THE CANDIDATES' INFORMATION, WHEN THEY'RE FILING ANYTHING TO DO WITH RECORD KEEPING, THAT IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME INTERFACE THAT THE STATE HAS, AND THE STATE SHOULD ALSO HAVE THAT, THE SAME AS WHAT FEDERAL MIGHT HAVE.

I'VE BEEN CAMPAIGNING FOR A YEAR AND A HALF.

AND EVERYONE I HAVE TALKED TO TALKS ABOUT THE STRUGGLES THEY HAVE WITH THAT WEBSITE.

>> OUR INDIANA ELECTION IS SECURE AND WHAT SHOULD THE SECRETARY OF THE STATE DO TO ENSURE.

>> YES, THEY ARE SECURE.

THE SYSTEM IS KIND OF IN PLACE.

I MEAN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THIS AND THAT BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING THE ELECTIONS ARE SECURE HERE IN THE STATE OF INDIANA.

YOU HAVE TO KEEP ON TOP OF IT.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO TRY TO MEDDLE ALL THE TIME BUT THEY ARE USUALLY CAUGHT PRETTY QUICKLY AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> YES, SO INDIANA ELECTIONS ARE SECURE.

NOW, THAT BEING SAID, ONE INSTANCE OF VOTER FRAUD IS ONE TOO MANY AND WE HAVE TO BE VERY STRONG ON ELECTION INTEGRITY.

I SUPPORT OUR STATE'S VOTER I.D.

LAW.

I THINK THAT MAKES COMMON SENSE TO PROVE WHO YOU ARE IN ORDER TO CAST YOUR BALLOT.

I THINK THAT'S DON'T GENERALLY A GOOD JOB TO PROTECT OUR ELECTIONS.

THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE HAS LOOKED AT VOTER FRAUD AND OUT OF MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF VOTES CAST, THEY ENCOUNTERED ILLEGAL VOTING AND ONE IS TOO MANY, AND IF I'M SUCCESSFUL, THEY WILL BE PROSECUTED UNDER LAW.

>> I DO BELIEVE THAT INDIANA IS IN A GREAT PLACE WHEN IT COMES TO ELECTION SECURITY.

MY JOB IS TO BUILD ON THAT, TO SAY HOW DO WE CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD?

AND VOTERS HERE IN INDIANA SHOULD HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT OUR ELECTIONS ARE BEING RUN WELL.

THERE ARE STILL SOME THINGS WE NEED TO DO, THOUGH, TO MOVE FORWARD AND BE EVEN MORE PROACTIVE IN OUR APPROACH, AND I MENTIONED THAT ONLY CITIZENS SHOULD BE VOTING HERE.

AND ONE WAY TO WORK TO THAT END IS TO SAY, IF YOU HAVE AN I.D.

CARD THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE BUT YOU ARE A LEGAL BUT NON-AGAINST OF THE UNITED STATES, HERE IN INDIANA, THAT THE COLOR OF THAT I.D.

CARD SHOULD BE CHANGED SO THAT IF YOU DO ATTEMPT, IF THEY DO ATTEMPT TO VOTE, IT WOULD BE VERY OBVIOUS TO THE CLERK IN THAT POLLING PLACE THAT THIS PERSON IS INELIGIBLE.

>> I THINK OUR ELECTIONS ARE INCREDIBLY SECURE.

OUR CURRENT SECRETARY OF STATE SHAS FOUND ONE INSTANCE IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS WHERE SOMEONE HAS VOTED ILLEGALLY, AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST HAD A WONDERFUL CONVERSATION WITH THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS JUST YESTERDAY ABOUT OUR ELECTION INTEGRITY AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW THEY CAN BE IMPROVED.

THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PAPER BALLOT MARKED WITH A TABULATION MACHINE.

THAT WOULD MAKE IT A PAPER TRAIL FOR EVERY VOTE.

I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S FEASIBLE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT'S BEING USED.

>> HOW ARE YOU GOING TO AVOID ANY CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AS SECRETARY OF STATE AND IS TRANSPARENCY OF THE OFFICE IMPORTANT TO YOU?

>> WE WILL BE INDEPENDENT.

WE WON'T MEDDLE, WE WON'T TOUCH POLITICS AT ALL.

SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT AND LIKE I SAY, NOBODY ELSE IS GOING TO TELL YOU THAT.

TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT.

WE PUT CONTRACTS ONLINE WHICH IS A RADICAL MOVE AT THE TIME.

WE CREATED AN ETHICS -- WE CREATED THE ETHICS WITHIN THE OFFICE AND THE LOBBYING AND THAT SORT OF THING.

BUT ALSO, PUTTING THE CONTRACTS ONLINE IS A PRETTY BOLD STEP.

I WOULD SUSPECT WE WOULD DO THAT AGAIN AS THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND BE VERY OPEN ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE WILL BE DOING.

I DID THAT AS THE MAYOR AND I WOULD DO THAT HERE.

>> YEAH, IT MATTERS A WHOLE LOT.

THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS WITH OUR CURRENT SECRETARY OF STATE.

HE'S GIVEN OUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN NO BID STATE CONTRACTS AND JUST SO YOUR LISTENERS ARE VERY AWARE, THEY HAVE NO BIDS.

NO DONOR TO MY EFFORT HERE, NO DONOR TO TO OUR CAMPAIGN WILL BE AWARDED A SINGLE STATE CONTRACT.

AND SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF TRANSPARENCY THAT I'M HEARING AROUND THE STATE THAT HOOSIERS ARE CRAVING.

MY OPPONENT IN THIS RACE, MAX ENGLING HAS NOT MADE THAT SAME PLEDGE AND I HOPE THAT HE CAN DO IT.

>> IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT ISSUE, ANY TIME YOU USE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

YOU ARE USING MONEY THAT FOLKS HAVE GIVEN AND YOU HAVE TO BE EFFICIENT WITH THAT.

AND PART OF THAT IS TRANSPARENCY.

I THINK IN THE VOTERS GIVE ME THIS RESPONSIBILITY, MOVING HERE INTO THE GENERAL ELECTION, THEY SAY, YES, WE WANT MAX TO BE OUR SECRETARY OF STATE, THEN THE TRANSITION PERIOD WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE WE PUT IN PROCESSES AND PROCEDURES TO THAT END.

SO THAT WE'RE RUNNING AN OPERATION THAT GIVES CONFIDENCE TO THE VOTERS IN THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE.

>> TRANSPARENCY IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO ME AND AS A LIBERTARIAN, MY ONLY JOB IS TO DO A GOOD JOB.

I DON'T CARRY WATER FOR ANY POLITICAL PARTY THAT HAS MEANINGFUL INPUT.

LIBERTARIANS HAVE TAKEN THE STANCE THAT IT'S NOT LEFT OR RIGHT, BUT IT'S FOR THE PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO DO IS DO THIS JOB FOR THE PEOPLE OF INDIANA.

>> YESTERDAY BALLARD FILES A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE INDIANA ELECTION COMMISSION DEMANDING IT MEET AND CONSIDER HIS CAMPAIGN FINANCE COMPLAINTS AGAINST BAYH AND ENGLING BEFORE THE NOVEMBER 3rd ELECTION.

YOU CAN WATCH THE ENTIRETY OF BEN'S INTERVIEWS WITH EACH CANDIDATE ON THE ELECTION PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE, WTIUNEWS.ORG.

>>> MORE THAN 4500 MONROE COUNTY RESIDENTS HAVE CAST THEIR BALLOTS SINCE EARLY VOTING FOR NEXT MONTH'S MIDTERM ELECTIONS BEGAN LAST WEEK.

THE TOTAL STILL LAGS 2018'S RECORD-BREAKING MIDTERM TURNOUT AT THE SAME POINT BUT IT'S THE MOST SINCE THE 2006 ELECTION.

MIDTERMS TRADITIONALLY SEE LOWER VOTER PARTICIPATION, PARTICULARLY IN INDIANA WHERE ONLY 40% OF REGISTERED VOTERS CAST A BALLOT IN 2022.

EARLY VOTING ENDS AT NOON ON NOVEMBER 2nd.

THAT'S THE DAY BEFORE ELECTION DAY.

WELL, WE ARE JOINED NOW BY ELIAS KHOURY WITH MORE HEADLINES FROM AROUND THE STATE.

>>> HELLO, ELIAS.

WELCOME BACK.

>> HEY, JOE, THANKS.

THE BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL WEDNESDAY NIGHT APPROVED A $165 MILLION BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

THE BUDGET IS A BIT HIGHER THAN 2026, BUT EXPECTS THE CITY TO RUN A $6 MILLION DEFICIT.

COUNCIL PRESIDENT ISAK ASARE WAS THE LONE NO VOTE.

HE WANTED TO SEE HOW HIGHER SPENDING LEADS TO BETTER OUTCOMES FOR THE PUBLIC BEFORE APPROVING THE BUDGET.

IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE ME THE DATA ON -- ON WHAT IS THE OUTCOME ASSOCIATED WITH THIS HUGE AMOUNT OF SPENDING THEN I HAVE TO MAKE MY OWN ASSUMPTIONS, RIGHT?

>> WHILE ASARE'S PROPOSED $2.5 MILLION CUT TO GENERAL FUND SPENDING FAILED, HIS COLLEAGUES REDUCED MONEY FOR OPERATIONS, INCLUDING NEW PARKING SYSTEMS, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, AND BRANDING.

THE CITY COUNCIL ALSO VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO BAN AUTOMATED LICENSE PLATE READERS AND THIRD PARTY SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS.

THE BAN WOULD NOT INCLUDE CLOSED CIRCUIT CAMERA SYSTEMS SUCH AS ONES IN CITY PARKS.

THE CITY STILL HAS ACTIVE FLOCK CONTRACTS FOR FOUR DOWNTOWN SECURITY CAMERAS AND FOUR MOBILE SECURITY SYSTEMS IN STORAGE.

ANOTHER 11 CAMERAS HAVE ALREADY BEEN REMOVED.

>> WE NEED TO DO OUR PART TO PROTECT OUR RESIDENTS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON FROM THAT GOVERNMENT OVERREACH AND I THINK THIS ORDINANCE IS A BIG PART OF THAT.

>> THE ORDINANCE PASSED 7-0 AND NOW GOES TO THE MAYOR FOR HER SIGNATURE.

>> GOVERNOR MIKE BRAUN SAYS HE EXPECTS INDIANA TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON PLANS TO EXECUTE A DEATH ROW PRISONER NEXT MONTH DESPITE CONCERNS OVER THE LETHAL INJECTION DRUG.

INDIANA USED PENTOBARBITAL, THE SAME THING THAT TENNESSEE USED, AND RESULTED IN A BOTCHED LEITHAN INJECTION.

>> THERE HAS BEEN A LOT THAT BRING THAT UP AS A BROADER DISCUSSION ON CAPITAL PUNISHMENT IN GENERAL.

>> JEFFREY WEISHEIT IS SCHEDULED TO BE BUT TO DEATH THIS MONTH.

AND INCREASING AGRICULTURAL FUNDING AND MAKE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY TAX CHANGES NEXT YEAR.

CLAYTON BAUMGARTH HAS MORE ON THE ORGANIZATION'S PRIORITIES.

>> THE ORGANIZATION RELEASED ITS PRIORITIES FOR THE 2027 LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WHICH WILL INCLUDE INDIANA'S NEXT TWO-YEAR BUDGET.

THE REQUESTS COME AS FARMERS PREPARE FOR ANOTHER GROWING SEASON WITH A DIFFICULT FINANCIAL OUTLOOK.

>> THE ISSUE WAS NOT INPUT.

PRICES ARE UP AND MARKETS ARE DOWN AND SO THEY WERE ALREADY SQUEEZED AND WE HAVE CONTINUED TO SEE THAT GAP LESSEN.

>> FARM BUREAU WANTS MORE MONEY FOR THE INDIANA STATE DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND BOARD OF ANIMAL HEALTH, ALTHOUGH NELSON SAYS THE ORGANIZATION IS STILL DETERMINING SPECIFIC FUNDING REQUESTS.

IT ALSO WANTS AGRICULTURAL USED BUILDING MOVED FROM THE STATE'S 3% CAPITAL TAX TO THE 2% CAP.

NELSON SAYS RECENT ASSESSMENTS HAVE VARIED DRAMATICALLY BETWEEN PROPERTIES AND COUNTIES.

>> WE'VE HAD REPORTS OF THOSE ASSESSMENTS DOUBLING, TRIPLING, AND BEING EXTREMELY INCONSISTENT ACROSS THE STATE.

SOMETIMESTO THE TUNE OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

>> FARM BUREAU WILL ALSO OPPOSE STATE LEVEL FOOD INGREEDENT RESTRICTIONS ARGUING THAT LEGISLATION SHOULD BE HANDLED FEDERALLY.

THE BUDGET SESSION BEGINS IN JANUARY.

FOR "INDIANA NEWSDESK," I'M CLAYTON BAUMGARTH.

>>> INDIANA UNIVERSITY'S JACOBS SCHOOL OF MUSIC AND THE METROPOLITAN OPERA WILL COPRODUCE LINCOLN IN THE BARTO, A NEW OPERA BASED ON GEORGE SAUNDER'S NOVEL.

THE SHOW OPENS AT THE METROPOLITAN OPERA ON MONDAY AND RUNS THROUGH NOVEMBER 15th.

COPRODUCING WITH THE METROPOLITAN OPERA IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STUDENTS TO WORK WITH THE FINEST DIRECTORS, CONDUCTORS AND CHOREOGRAPHERS IN THE WORLD.

>> IT IS AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR A STUDENT TO HAVE A WORLD PREMIER OF ANY KIND ON THEIR -- THEIR RESUME.

BUT TO HAVE A WORLD PREMIER THAT EVENTUALLY GOES ON TO THE METROPOLITAN OPERA AND IS AN ENORMOUS SUCCESS IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

>> LINCOLN IN THE BARTO IS A SUPERNATURAL TALE REINVOLVING AROUND PRESIDENT LINCOLN'S VISIT TO HIS RECENTLY DECEASED 11-YEAR-OLD SON WILLY.

AND IT WILL BE AT THE JACOBS SCHOOL MUSICAL ARTS CENTER, FOLLOWING ONGOING RENOVATIONS INTO WHAT A WAY TO DEBUT THE RENOVATIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, ELIAS.

>> COMING UP NEXT ON "INDIANA NEWSDESK."

>> OUR NOON EDITION PANEL TALKS ABOUT THE PROS AND CONS OF THE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND THE DATA CENTER BOOM.

AND THE INDIANA HOOSIERS HAVE PERHAPS THEIR BIGGEST GAME EVER AT MEMORIAL STADIUM THIS WEEKEND.

THESE STORIES AND MORE, RIGHT HERE ON "INDIANA NEWSDESK."

>>> HELLO, I'M TODD GOULD, SENIOR PRODUCER AND DIRECTOR AT WTIU.

>>> WELCOME BACK TO "INDIANA NEWSDESK."

YOU CAN'T ESCAPE THE REACHES OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

ABOUT HALF OF ALL U.S.

ADULTS REPORT USING CHATBOTS AND TECH COMPANIES LIKE MICROSOFT, GOOGLE AND AMAZON HAVE POURED HUNDREDS OF BILLION DOLLARS INTO RESEARCH AND INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT AND FURTHER DEVELOP THE A.I.

BOOM.

ON A RECENT NOON EDITION, OUR PANEL DISCUSSED THE PROS AND CONS OF A.I., INCLUDING THE IMPACTS OF SLOWING DOWN THE RUSH TO BUILD DATA CENTERS.

>> YEAH, I MEAN, THE DOWNSIDE WOULD BE -- I MEAN, THE COMMON ARGUMENT FOR THE DOWNSIDE IS CHINA WINS THE RACE.

WHATEVER THE HECK THAT MEANS.

AND I THINK THE TRUTH -- PART OF IT IS REALLY SCOTT AND SO I WON'T TALK A WHOLE LOT ABOUT IT, AND I WILL LET HIM EXPAND UPON IT.

PART OF IT, AS WELL, MEDICINE, WE CAN STICK WITH THAT, AS OUR FRAME.

THE REALITY IS IF SOMEONE ELSE WINS, THEY WIN A RACE THAT I'M NOT EVEN CONVINCED WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE RACING ABOUT, BUT THEY COULD USE THAT FOR GOOD OR BAD AND IF WE CAN'T KEEP UP, WE CAN'T STOP THE BAD AND THIS IS THE CYBERSECURITY ARGUMENT.

IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MEDICINE RACING AHEAD TO DISCOVER FOR DRUGS, PILLS, ALL THAT TYPE OF STUFF, CANCER DISCOVERY, WE'VE SEEN AMAZING PROGRESS IN READING X-RAYS AND RADIOLOGY REPORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AMAZING!

ALL OF THAT, QUITE FRANKLY, IS USE FOR GOOD BUT ALSO COULD BE USED FOR BAD AND IF WE DON'T KEEP UP WITH THAT, WE'RE NOT IN A POSITION TO FOE WHAT THE HECK IS GOING AROUND TO STOP THE BAD AND EVEN IF WE DO KEEP UP, I'M NOT CONVINCED 100% WE COULD STOP THE BAD BUT WE AT LEAST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON SO THAT IF WE FORCE IN THE UNITED STATES, INDUSTRY TO SLOW DOWN, EVERYONE NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS, THAT WE'RE NOW PART, EVEN OUR GREATEST EXPERTS IN THE UNITED STATES, ARE NOW PART OF NOT HAVE INFORMATION IN THE EDUCATION THEY NEED TO KNOW TO KEEP UP.

>> YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, PICKING UP ON ANGIE'S POINT THERE, IT'S OFTEN FRAMED AS AN EITHER OR, LIKE EITHER WE HAVE TO TAKE A COMPLETE LAISSEZ-FAIRE APPROACH AND WE HAVE TO QUOTE/UNQUOTE BEAT CHINA AND WE PUT IN PLACE THE GUARDRAILS AND THEN WE HAVE TO BOW DOWN TO THE SUPERINTELLIGENCE, WHICH HAPPENS TO SPEAK MANDARIN, RIGHT?

AND THAT'S NOT THE WAY THE REAL WORLD WORKS.

CHINA HAS MUCH MORE ROBUST SETS OF A.I.

REGULATION THAN THE U.S.

DOES AT THE MOMENT.

IT'S GEARED DIFFERENTLY.

IT'S TO PROTECT THINGS LIKE KIDS, FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, FALLING IN LOVE WITH THESE CHATBOTS.

IT'S -- IT'S SOME STUFF, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE HAVE DONE AT THE STATE LEVEL BUT WE HAVEN'T DONE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL YET.

YOU COULD ARGUE, WOULD PUTTING INTO PLAY SOME OF THOSE LOW HANGING FRUIT REGULATIONS SLOW DOWN THE FRONTIER LAB SIGNIFICANTLY?

I DOUBT IT.

JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, YOU CAN SEE THEM CLAMORING AS WELL EVEN THOUGH THEY DO IT TONGUE AND CHEEK IT SEEMS AND -- BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE SEE SOME AT LEAST KIND OF GREEN SHOOTS OF RESPONSIBILITY, OPENAI DIDN'T RELEASE A MODEL BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAVE THE ALIGNMENT THAT THEY WANTED IT TO SEE.

IT WAS NOT BEHAVING THE WAY WE WERE EXPECTING IT TO.

THEY ARE ALIEN TO HOW WE UNDERSTAND INTELLIGENCE.

I WOULD LIKE TO LEAN A BIT MORE INTO THAT, MUCH MORE PRECAUTIONARY PRINCIPLE THINKING ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONTEXT MINDSET AND PROVE TO US THAT IT'S SAFE BEFORE YOU RELEASE IT AS OPPOSED TO MOVE FAST AND BREAK THINGS, PUT IT OUT THERE AND WE'LL CLEAN IT UP LATER.

>> WELL, I WILL ADD JUST ONE QUICK THING AND THEN I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT WE START -- AT I.U., WE STARTED CLASSES NOT TERRIBLY LONG AGO.

SO TO GIVE US ALL JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HOPE, WHICH I'M NOT USUALLY GOOD AT, QUITE HONESTLY, BECAUSE I'M SORT OF THE PERSON IN THE ROOM WHO IS USUALLY SHOUTING WE'RE DOOMED, I WALKED INTO ONE OF MY FIRST CLASSES, FIRST SECTION AND I WALKED IN AND THE STUDENTS HAD NOTEBOOKS AND PENCILS AND I THOUGHT THAT'S WEIRD, AND I THOUGHT, WHAT'S HAPPENING?

AND THEY SAID, I LEARN BETTER THIS WAY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SHIFTED TO ALLOWING STUDENTS TO USE A.I., AS LONG AS THEY DISCLOSE IT.

AND -- BUT THEN I SPEND TONS OF TIME SAYING, YOU'RE SMARTER THAN THIS, AREN'T YOU?

WHAT'S GOOD?

WHAT'S BAD?

AND I'M NOW SEEING STUDENTS WITH PENS AND PAPER, TAKING ACTUAL NOTES, NOT DICTATION, AND ACTUALLY USING THE A.I.

IN A WAY THAT IS MORE INTERROGATED AND THOUGHTFUL, AND IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY.

AND SO MAYBE THERE'S A LITTLE PIECE OF THE FUTURE OF HOPE THAT WE HAVE A GENERATION THAT IS SORT OF LIKE WE'LL PAUSE IT FOR YOU IN THE RIGHT WAYS.

>> YEAH, I WOULD SAY FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, DATA CENTERS, THERE'S SO MUCH CAPITAL EXPENDITURE TIED TO THEM, IF WE SLOW DOWN THE BUILD OUT, I AM WORRIED ABOUT JUST A TOTAL CRASH OF THE ECONOMY AND WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE WOULD BE HURT BY THAT.

IT WOULD HELP PROTECT SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES WHERE THESE PROJECTS ARE GOING IN, BUT OVERALL, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY TIED TO THIS.

THE SAVVY PROJECT, AFTER THE ABATEMENT IS OVER WILL BE THE SECT LARGEST TAXPAYER IN INDIANAPOLIS, OVERALL.

AS FAR AS A.I.

DAY-TO-DAY, I'M 22.

I KNOW I'M IN ENEMY TERRITORY HERE.

I GO TO PURDUE.

SO I'M SORRY.

[ CHUCKLES ] , THE PRIMARY USE I HAVE SEEN MY PEERS USE A.I.

FOR IS JUST CHEATING.

AND, LIKE, THERE'S BEEN A TOTAL EROSION OF EFFORT AND TIME PUT INTO ACADEMICS.

AND THAT REALLY, REALLY CONCERNS ME, BUT I HAVE HAD PROFESSORS TO ANGIE'S POINT WHO SAYS, OKAY, WE WILL DO ORAL EXAMS.

YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE YOUR LAPTOP OUT AND WE HAVE SEEN THAT GO A LOT BETTER.

AND I -- I DEFINITELY LEARN A LOT BETTER THAT WAY.

SO I DON'T THINK A.I.

BUILDOUT IS INEVITABLE.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO ACCEPT THIS THING THAT'S BEING FORCED ON US BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH MONEY TIED TO IT SUCCEEDING.

>> YOU CAN WATCH THE ENTIRE EPISODE ON ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND DATA CENTERS AND PAST EPISODES OF NOON EDITION ON OUR WEBSITE, WTIUNEWS.ORG.

>>> AND THE INDIANA FOOTBALL TEAM IS PLAYING IN WHAT IS BILLED THE BIGGEST GAME EVER AT MEMORIAL STADIUM TOMORROW.

THE FIFTH RANKED HOOSIERS WILL HOST NUMBER FOUR OHIO STATE IN A REMATCH OF LAST YEAR'S BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME THAT PROPELLED THE HOOSIERS TO THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

BOTH TEAMS ARE 3-0 IN THE CONFERENCE HEADING INTO THE GAME.

HEAD COACH CURT CIGNETTI IS DOWNPLAYING THE IMPORTANCE OF THE GAME.

>> IT'S JUST A FOOTBALL GAME, BUT I'M GLAD IT'S AT HOME.

IT'S TWO GOOD TEAMS TWO REALLY GOOD TEAMS.

A GREAT TEAM WE'RE PLAYING.

I'M NOT SURE HOW GOOD WE ARE YET.

BUT OUR CROWDS HAVE BEEN AWESOME, AND THEY NEED TO BE LOUD.

REAL LOUD.

>> THE CHEAPEST TICKETS FOR THE SOLD OUT GAME ON THE RESALE MARKET ARE IN THE $400 RANGE WHILE SOME ARE ASKING UPWARDS OF $1,000 PER TICKET.

TOMORROW'S GAME KICKS OFF AT NOON ON FOX.

WELL, THAT'S THE END OF THIS PROGRAM, BUT OUR WORK CONTINUES ONLINE AS WE COVER THE NEWS THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AT WTIUNEWS.ORG.

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.

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