>> ♪ ♪ >> WELCOME TO "ALMANAC," WE'RE GOING TO START THE HOUR WITH A QUICK LOOK AT SOME REGIONAL HEADLINES.

ON TUESDAY THE MINNEAPOLIS SCHOOL BOARD UNVEILED THREE DIFFERENT PLANS TO ADDRESS ONGOING ENROLLMENT AND BUDGET CHALLENGES.

AS MANY AS 16 SCHOOLS COULD END UP CLOSING AND THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS COULD BE SENT TO NEW SCHOOLS UNDER ONE OF THE PLANS.

ALSO ON TUESDAY FEDERAL OFFICIALS ANNOUNCED THE FOREST FIRES THAT RAGED ACROSS NORTHEASTERN MINNESOTA THIS SUMMER ARE NOW 100% CONTAINED.

AT ONE POINT THE ENTIRE BOUNDARY WATERS CANOE AREA WILDERNESS WAS CLOSED, SOME REMAIN CLOSED FOR THE SEASON BUT THE MAJORITY HAS REOPENED.

>> CHUE'S KITCHEN MADE THE ANNUAL 50 BEST LIST OF RESTAURANTS IN THE COUNTRY.

THE RESTAURANT OPENED IN 2025 AND WAS THE ONLY MINNESOTA PLACE TO MAKE THE LIST.

WE START TONIGHT WITH A LOOK AT THE UPCOMING MIDTERM ELECTIONS.

TODAY MARKS THE FIRST DAY OF ABSENTEE VOTING IN MINNESOTA.

EARLIER THIS WEEK THE SUPREME COURT AGAIN VOTED AGAINST RESTRICTING VOTING BY MAIL.

DAVID SCHULTZ IS PROFESSOR AT HAMLINE UNIVERSITY AND ALSO ADJUNCT PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF ST.

THOMAS.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT, EARLY MAIL-IN VOTING, A LOT OF RURAL AREAS, IS THIS NOW A DEAD ISSUE?

>> IT'S MORE OR LESS A DEAD ISSUE AT THIS POINT BECAUSE MINNESOTA'S ALREADY STARTED EARLY VOTING AND A FEW OTHER STATES ARE DOING IT TOO.

PRETTY MUCH I AS SORT OF THINKING LAST WEEK WHEN PEOPLE KEPT WAITING, WHEN'S THE COURT GOING TO DECIDE, I SAID THEY'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY 'TIL IT'S TOO LATE THEY DON'T REALLY WANT TO DECIDE THIS CASE.

AND SO WAIT 'TIL EARLY VOTING HAS STARTED AND THEY CAN SORT OF PUNT AT THIS POINT.

I WANT TO ADD ONE MORE THING TO IT TOO WHICH IS INTERESTING.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RURAL VOTERS.

YOU KNOW WHO'S BEEN THE SINGLE BIGGEST BENEFICIARY OF EARLY VOTING?

>> RURAL VOTERS?

>> WORKING WOMEN WITH CHILDREN.

>> Cathy: OHHH.

>> BECAUSE THINK ABOUT IT.

PROBABLY A LOT OF THE LISTENERS HERE, THEY'RE CHAUFFEURS, THEY'RE TAKING THEIR KIDS EVERYWHERE, ON ELECTION DAY IT'S HARD TO GET OFF FROM WORK, NAVIGATE EVERYTHING.

THIS HAS HAD A DRAMATIC IMPACT ON IMPROVING WOMEN'S VOTER TURNOUT IN THE UNITED STATES.

>> Eric: U.S.

HOUSE WAS SENT HOME?

UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION?

>> YEAH.

>> Eric: WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

>> FIRST OFF THEY WANT TO BE CAMPAIGNING, THEY DON'T WANT TO BE IN WASHINGTON.

TWO, THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO BE DEALING WITH LEGISLATION OR PRESSURE FROM DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE AS WE'RE LOOKING AT ACROSS THE COUNTRY ESPECIALLY IN THOSE 30 OR SO CONGRESSIONAL SEATS IN 7 OR SO SENATE SEATS THAT ARE GOING TO DECIDE CONTROL OF CONGRESS, THEY'RE RUNNING AWAY FROM TRUMP BECAUSE TRUMP IS A LIABILITY AND A 34% APPROVAL RATING.

SO WALK AWAY, DON'T BE IN WASHINGTON AT THIS POINT, GO HOME AND CAMPAIGN.

THEY'RE PLAYING IT SAFE.

>> Cathy: OKAY.

HEY, BY THE WAY, THE PRESIDENT KEEPS BRINGING UP 2020.

HOW IS THAT PLAYING WITH VOTERS?

>> VOTERS EITHER DON'T -- WELL, HIS BASE PROBABLY STILL CARES.

HIS BASE PROBABLY STILL CARES BUT FOR THE MOST PART VOTERS DON'T CARE.

AGAIN, IF WE LOOK AT THE ISSUES THAT ARE DRIVING PEOPLE AT THIS POINT I STILL CALL IT THE MILK, BREAD, AND EGGS ISSUE.

PEOPLE ARE VERY MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT THE PRICE OF CONSUMER GOODS , ADD TO THAT GASOLINE.

FUEL LIKE THAT.

EVERY ONE OF US GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, BUY ONE BAG OF GROCERIES AND I'M NOT FAULTING GROCERS, BUT YOU BUY ONE BAG OF GROCERIES AND IT'S LIKE THAT MUCH, OR YOU GO TO THE GAS STATION.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY MOVING PEOPLE AT THIS POINT.

THIS OTHER STUFF AT BEST PERIPHERAL FOR A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

>> Eric: DO WE KNOW HOW THE REDISTRICTING MIDTERM REDISTRICTING SHOOK OUT?

>> AT THE END OF THE DAY MAYBE A SLIGHT ADVANTAGE TO REPUBLICANS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, TEXAS DID IT FIRST, CALIFORNIA COUNTERACTED IT.

MISSOURI DID IT BUT THEN MISSOURI SUPREME COURT SAID YOU CAN'T DO THIS.

MAYBE, MAYBE REPUBLICANS PLUS ONE, PLUS TWO IN TERMS OF THE REDISTRICTING AND THE GERRYMANDERING BUT WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING NOW IF POLLS CAN BE ELIEVED, THERE'S LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT POLLING, IS THAT THE DEMOCRATS NOW HAVE AN ADVANTAGE IN TERMS OF GENERIC BALLOT BETWEEN 7 AND 11 POINTS.

THAT'S NOW STARTING TO GET INTO PRETTY GOOD TERRITORY FOR THE DEMOCRATS EVEN FACING THE GERRYMANDERING TO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD SHOT AT SOLID CONTROL OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

>> Cathy: SAY, HERE ARE CERTAIN NEWS ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE NOW BARRED FROM THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS ROOM.

>> RIGHT.

>> Cathy: RIGHT?

AND I'M CURIOUS THAT WOULD OPEN UP I WOULD PRESUME COURT CASES.

>> OH, YEAH.

THERE'S AT LEAST TWO.

>> Eric: NEAR V. MINNESOTA 1931.

>> WAS GOING TO SAY ONE OF THE GREATEST CASES COMING OUT OF MINNESOTA ABOUT PRESS FREEDOM AT THIS POINT.

YOU HAVE BASICALLY TRUMP SAYING POLITICO, CNN AND MS NOW CAN'T COME HERE ANYMORE.

IT'S GOING TO RAISE FIRST AMENDMENT, FREE SPEECH, AND FREEDOM OF THE PRESS ISSUES.

AND JUST IN CASE THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE OUT WHO SAY I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THOSE STATIONS, GUESS WHAT, TODAY IT'S GOING TO BE MNNOW, CNN, NEXT ADMINISTRATION IT COULD BE, WHAT, FOX.

I'LL BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW FOX NETWORK APPROACHES THIS ISSUE.

>> Cathy: ALL RIGHT.

ALWAYS GREAT HAVING YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> MY PLEASURE.

>> Cathy: LAST WEEKEND THE NATION REMEMBERED THE 25TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE WORST TERRORIST ATTACK ON AMERICAN SOIL.

A NEW MILITARY AND VETERANS MUSEUM IN THE STATE ALSO OPENED ITS DOORS FOR THE FIRST TIME.

THE DIVERGENCE OF EVENTS WAS NOT A COINCIDENCE.

REPORTER KAOMI LEE PREVIEWED THE MINNESOTA MILITARY VETERANS MUSEUM IN MAY AND WENT BACK FOR THE OPENING DAY.

>> THE TERRORIST ATTACKS ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001, WILL FOREVER BE REMEMBERED.

AND THE SOMBER ANNIVERSARY WAS DELIBERATELY INCLUDED IN TWO DAYS OF PROGRAMS.

AS THE STATE WELCOMED ITS NEW MUSEUM HONORING STORIES OF MILITARY SERVICE.

>> FIRST WE GATHER TO REMEMBER THE EVENTS OF SEPTEMBER 11TH, TO HONOR THE LIVES THAT WERE TAKEN, THE FAMILIES FOREVER CHANGED, THE FIRST RESPONDERS WHO RAN TOWARD DANGER, AND THE GENERATIONS OF AMERICAN SERVICE MEMBERS WHO ANSWERED OUR NATION'S CALL.

[ HORNS PLAYING ] ♪ ♪ >> EVERY YEAR AROUND 9/11 IS KIND OF TOUGH AND THIS YEAR WAS MORE SO BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH COVERAGE.

>> SCOTT WALLACE OF WOODBURY SURVIVED THE ATTACKS ON THE TWIN TOWERS THAT FATEFUL DAY.

HE SAYS HE LIVES SO HE MAY TELL OTHERS ABOUT IT.

>> WHEN THE FIREMAN FROM RESCUE ONE PASSED US, THEY NEVER MADE IT OUT OF THE TOWER BEFORE IT COLLAPSED.

>> TODAY ALSO MARKS A NEW CHAPTER IN HOW MINNESOTA WILL PRESERVE AND TELL THOSE STORIES.

>> VISITORS TO MINNESOTA'S MILITARY AND VETERANS MUSEUM WILL BE ABLE TO SEE REAL HELICOPTERS AND TANKS AND ARTILLERY USED ON THE BATTLEFIELD.

BUT ORGANIZERS SAY IN THE CENTER OF IT ALL WILL BE STORIES ABOUT MINNESOTANS.

>> THERE IS 300,000 VETERANS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA.

THEIR FAMILIES, THEIR FRIENDS, THEIR NEIGHBORS, THEY WANT TO TELL THE STORIES OF INDIVIDUAL MEN AND WOMEN, THEIR BIOGRAPHY, THEIR STORIES, THEIR WORDS, WALKING IN THEIR SHOES SEEING IT THROUGH THEIR EYES AND I THINK WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED THAT IN LARGE PART.

>> THE EXHIBITS COVER CONTRIBUTIONS FROM MINNESOTANS FROM THE CIVIL WAR TO THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR.

STORIES FROM PEOPLE LIKE 31-YEAR VETERAN R. DAVID HAMLER.

HE SERVED MOST OF HIS TIME IN THE NATIONAL GUARD.

>> WHEN I GO TO COMMUNITIES LIKE NORTH MINNEAPOLIS OR SOMETHING, I DON'T SEE VFWs, I DON'T SEE AREAS WHERE PEOPLE GATHER WHO ARE, WHO LOOK LIKE ME AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT STORY IS TOLD.

>> THIS NAVY VETERAN SERVED TWO DEPLOYMENTS OVERSEAS, OPERATIONS IRAQI FREEDOM AND ENDURING FREEDOM.

SOME OF HER COLLEAGUES DIDN'T RETURN.

>> THIS MUSEUM IS REVITALIZING WHY WE SERVED OUR COUNTRY, AND JUST WALKING IN YOU HAVE THE OATH AND LISTENING TO KATE BOWER AND OTHERS AS THEY RESTATED THEIR OATH TO THE UNITED STATES.

IT WAS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL.

>> I, DON HALVORSON.

>> DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR.

>> REAL LIFE STORIES OF MINNESOTANS ARE TOLD THROUGH THEIR WORDS, PHOTOS AND POSSESSIONS LIKE SERGEANT CARL G. PETERSON OF ST.

PAUL WHO SERVED IN A RAILROAD UNIT DURING WORLD WAR II IN PRESENT-DAY IRAN, SUPPLYING TROOPS IN RUSSIA, AND TECH SERGEANT DELORIS MARIE VO SEC A OF MINNEAPOLIS, PART OF THE WOMEN'S ARMY CORPS ALSO DURING WORLD WAR II AND DECODED TOP SECRET MESSAGES IN WASHINGTON.

♪ >> Eric: AS WE NOTED EARLIER IN THE HOUR ABSENTEE VOTING BEGAN TODAY IN MINNESOTA.

ALL 201 LEGISLATIVE SEATS ON THE BALLOT WITH CLOSELY DIVIDED STATE GOVERNMENT BIPARTISANSHIP WAS AT A PREMIUM, MAJORITY IN THE MIDDLE IS A NON-PROFIT THAT AIMS TO FOSTER CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN POLITICALLY DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS AND RELEASED ITS REPORT ON BIPARTISANSHIP EARLIER THIS SUMMER WITH JUST 45 DAYS UNTIL ELECTION DAY GOOD TIME TO LOOK AT THE FINDINGS.

JOINING US IS FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF MAJORITY IN THE MIDDLE, SHANNON WATSON.

DO THE VOTERS AND DO THE LEADERS OF THE VARIOUS LEGISLATIVE CAUCUSES REALLY WANT BIPARTISANSHIP?

>> OH, THOSE TWO VERY DIFFERENT CONSTITUENCIES.

I DO THINK WHEN YOU TAKE POLLS AND GO TO THE DOORS A LOT OF NORMAL MINNESOTANS SAY CAN'T YOU GUYS PLEASE JUST STOP FIGHTING, JUST GET THINGS DONE, EVERYBODY ELSE WHO GOES TO WORK DOESN'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF JUST LIKE NOT WORKING WITH THEIR COLLEAGUES.

SO THEY WANT THE LEGISLATURE TO DO THAT AS WELL.

DO LEGISLATIVE LEADERS WANT THAT?

PROBABLY NOT QUITE AS MUCH BECAUSE THEIR JOB IS TO HOLD THEIR CAUCUS TOGETHER AND GET THOSE THINGS DONE THAT THEIR CAUCUS WANTS.

SO THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT GOALS.

>> Cathy: ARE WE SURE VOTERS WANT THEIR LAWMAKERS TO WORK TOGETHER?

AND I ASK THAT, I MEAN, VOTERS ON EITHER END OF THOSE, THE POLARIZED VOTERS ON EITHER END OF THE SPECTRUM.

>> YEAH, I THINK A LOT OF VOTERS WANT THEM TO WORK TOGETHER.

THE QUESTION IS WHAT DO THEY WANT THEM TO WORK TOGETHER TO DO, AND A LOT OF TIMES IT'S I WANT EVERYBODY TO COMPROMISE AND TAKE THE THING THAT I WANT TO COME OUT OF IT.

SO BUT THERE IS LIKE THIS UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, GRIDLOCK ISN'T, LIKE IT ISN'T HELPFUL TO THE STATE.

NOT GETTING STUFF DONE ISN'T HELPFUL.

SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT VOTERS REALLY ARE AIMING FOR.

>> Eric: WITH THE REAL TIGHT DIVISION OF POWER IN THE LEGISLATURE, IN THE HOUSE IT WAS FORCED BIPARTISANSHIP.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

YES.

>> Eric: DOES THAT CONTRIBUTE TO MAYBE AN INCREASE IN BIPARTISANSHIP?

>> IT DOES AND ACTUALLY IT SET UP A REALLY GOOD DICHOTOMY FOR THE ENTIRE BIENNIUM.

SO THE HOUSE WAS TIED 67-67.

THE SENATE HAD THE NORMAL MAJORITY, MINORITY DYNAMIC BY ONE, YOU KNOW, BY ONE SEAT FOR MOST OF IT OTHER THAN THE FIRST THREE WEEKS.

IN THE HOUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF BIPARTISANSHIP AND THERE WAS A LOT OF BIPARTISANSHIP IN THE HEARINGS.

SO FOR THE HOUSE, ALL OF THE HEARINGS TOTALLY PUT TOGETHER THE BILLS THAT WERE HEARD, 51% OF THEM HAD A D.F.L.

CHIEF AUTHOR, 49% HAD A REPUBLICAN CHIEF AUTHOR.

IN THE SENATE WHERE THERE WAS THAT MAJORITY, MINORITY, 79% OF THE BILLS WERE CHIEF AUTHORED BY THE MAJORITY ARTY.

AND SO LIKE THAT TELLS US NOT ONLY IS THIS DYNAMIC IMPORTANT BUT THE INCENTIVES ARE ENORMOUSLY IMPORTANT AND WHAT YOU DESIGN FOR IS KIND OF WHAT YOU GET.

>> Cathy: ANYTHING COME OUT OF THAT REPORT THAT REALLY SURPRISED YOU, SAT DOWN YOU WENT, WOW, REALLY?

>> I THINK THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY PARTICIPATING REALLY LEANING IN, EVEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE O, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN VERY SAFE SEATS STILL WORKING ACROSS THE AISLE.

EVEN ON BILLS THAT WEREN'T GETTING HEARINGS AND, YOU KNOW, WEREN'T THE SUPER HOT TOPICS.

>> Eric: MAYBE YOU'RE ADVISING THEM AND I DON'T KNOW THAT BUT THERE'S A GROUP OF WOULD BE FRESHMEN RUNNING FOR THE HOUSE THAT REGARDLESS OF PARTY LINES THEY PLEDGED TO WORK TOGETHER.

>> OH, YEAH!

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL THE FORWARD PARTY.

>> Eric: THAT'S A VERY NOBLE STATEMENT BUT ARE ANY OF THOSE CANDIDATES FAVORED TO WIN?

>> YES.

I DON'T KNOW.

MOST OF THEM ARE N OPEN SEATS OR CHALLENGING AN INCUMBENT SO PROBABLY NOT, BUT SERIOUSLY LIKE THAT GROUP IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT, IT WAS SOME CANDIDATES THAT HAVE BEEN ENDORSED BY THE D.F.L., SOME ENDORSED BY REPUBLICANS, ONE FORWARD INDEPENDENT MINOR PARTY CANDIDATE AND I THINK ONE CANDIDATE RUNNING INDEPENDENT.

THEY ALL PARTICIPATED IN THE SAME PRESS CONFERENCE TOGETHER.

THEY DIDN'T ALL STAND TOGETHER BEHIND THE PODIUM AT THE SAME TIME BUT PARTICIPATED.

THAT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF HE TOP TEN BRAVEST THINGS I'VE SEEN AT THE CAPITOL >> Cathy: WOW!

THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING.

>> IT IS, BECAUSE THE PRESS CONFERENCE LED OFF WITH WE HAD 8 PEOPLE WHO WERE GOING TO PARTICIPATE, NOW WE HAVE 7 BECAUSE THEY HAD THEIR ENDORSEMENT THREATENED.

>> >> Eric: REGULAR VIEWERS OF "ALMANAC" MAY KNOW WE'VE BEEN TAGGING ALONG ITH DANGER BOAT PRODUCTIONS PRODUCTIPRODUCTIONS AND THE MINA HUMANITIES CENTER ALL THIS SUMMER AND THEY'VE BEEN VISITING TOWNS ALL OVER THE STATE PAIRING DEMOCRACY WITH IMPROV COMEDY, PART OF OUR VOICES RISING: STORIES FOR AMERICA'S 250TH NITIATIVE.

TAKE A LOOK AT HOW PHYSICAL SPACES AND DEMOCRACY ARE OVERLAPPING IN ROCHESTER.

>> YES, WE'RE THE THIRD LARGEST CITY IN MINNESOTA BUT OUR DOWNTOWN IS STILL SO WALKABLE.

ONCE OU PARK YOUR CAR YOU CAN FORGET IT, WE'RE DOWNTOWN OF YES, AND.

YOU GO GRAB DINNER BEFORE A SHOW AND GRAB A COCKTAIL AT A LOUNGE THAT'S OPEN 'TIL, I WAS THERE 'TIL 11 LAST NIGHT.

WE TRY AND PROVIDE THAT EXPERIENCE FOR THOSE THAT WANT IT.

>> SHAWN FAGAN IS A SUPER FAN OF DOWNTOWN ROCHESTER.

HE SPORTS A CHATEAU THEATER T-SHIRT WHILE TALKING ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN ALLIANCE.

>> WE CONSIDER OURSELVES AN ORGANIZATION TO HELP DRIVE TRAFFIC TO DOWNTOWN TO GET THE 3.2 MILLION VISITORS INTO DOWNTOWN AND DRIVE LOCALS IN THE QUADRANTS INTO DOWNTOWN AS WELL ROCHESTER'S MASSIVE $5 BILLION REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONSTRUCTION THAT COMES WITH IT WERE THE CLEAR THEMES OF THE EVENING AT THE SKETCHES OF ROCHESTER IMPROV COMEDY EVENT.

THE IMPROV TROUPE LISTENED AND COMEDY RESULTED.

>> ALL OF THE LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY'RE FACING NOW BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION, THERE'S A LOT OF SHOPS THAT HAVE CLOSED DOWN IN THELESS YEAR.

>> I'VE LIVED A LOT OF PLACES.

OUR LIBRARY IS -- >> WONDERFUL.

>> WONDERFUL.

>> WE'RE HERE AT THE LIBRARY, THEY HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE CONSTRUCTION AREA OUTSIDE!

[ LAUGHTER ] >> WOW, WOW!

>> YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST SIT HERE AND SOAK IT IN.

>> WOW!

>> BEEP, BEEP, BEEP, BEEP [ IMITATING CONSTRUCTION TRUCK >> LIKE ALL HOT TOPICS THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT OPINIONS EVEN ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE ABOUT DOWNTOWN IS THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS WORK HARD.

>> THEY DO WORK HARD.

>> SEAN FAGAN KEEPS REMINDING PEOPLE MORE ROADS ARE OPEN THAN CLOSED IN DOWNTOWN ROCHESTER AND PEACE PLAZA IS PERHAPS THE VERY HEART OF DOWNTOWN.

>> I CONSIDER OUR CITY SQUARE, A VERY LONG RECTANGLE BUT OUR COMMUNITY SQUARE.

PUBLIC SPACES PEOPLE CAN COME TOGETHER I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT IN OUR DEMOCRACY.

>> PEACE PLAZA HAS BECOME A VERY IMPORTANT GATHERING PLACE FOR ALL KINDS OF CELEBRATION AND DEMONSTRATION.

>> NA URA ANDERSON OPERATES THE HISTORIC CHATEAU THEATER WHERE PEOPLE PROTESTED FEDERAL IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.

>> HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ON SHORT NOTICE CAME TOGETHER TO BE ANGRY, MOURN, SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER, AND HAVING SPACES THAT FEEL SAFE AND WELCOMING IS SO VERY IMPORTANT.

>> PEACE PLAZA IS ALSO THE HOME OF LATINO FEST, AN ANNUAL EVENT THAT DRAWS THOUSANDS TO THE AREA.

>> WE WANT TO INTRODUCE PEOPLE FROM CHILE, PERU, ARGENTINA, AND PUT IT IN A BEAUTIFUL DISPLAY THAT IS IN DOWNTOWN ROCHESTER.

I JUST LOVE THE THAT WE BRING AND DIVERSITY THAT WE BRING, FROM FOOD TO MUSIC TO EVERYTHING.

>> LATINO FEST IS FIRST AND FOREMOST A CELEBRATION, BUT IT'S ALSO A CHANCE FOR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.

>> WE HAVE A NEW SECTION IN LATINO FEST THAT IS CALLED VOICES OF OUR HERITAGE.

WE ARE HOPING THAT WE HAVE MANY PARTICIPANTS THAT ARE GOING TO TELL US WHAT IT MEANS TO BE LATINO AND WHAT ARE THE GIFTS THAT WE BRING TO THE UNITED STATES, THAT IS FOR ME, DEMOCRACY, TO BE ABLE TO TELL WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE THINK, HOW WE FEEL, ET CETERA.

>> THE DEMOCRATIC RIGHT TO EXPRESSION WAS CENTRAL TO THE SKETCHES OF ROCHESTER EVENT TOO.

>> FOR US LATINOS IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THIS IS RECOGNIZED OW, THAT WE HAVE THAT PART OF OUR CULTURE HERE IN ROCHESTER.

>> I LOVE IT.

YOU KNOW WHAT?

I WISH THERE WERE DANCING HERE.

>> WELL IN, DOWNTOWN ROCHESTER, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SAY YOU WISH FOR SOMETHING TO HAPPEN ... [ LAUGHTER ] AND THEN IT HAPPENS!

>> EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THE END OF CONSTRUCTION.

A RECENT CITY COUNCIL VOTE APPROVED PLANS FOR REDEVELOPMENTS OF SEVERAL BUILDINGS IN ROCHESTER'S VIBRANT HISTORIC DISTRICT.

WHILE THE BUILDING FACADES WILL RETAIN HISTORIC CHARM THE BACK ENDS WILL BE REDEVELOPED INTO MULTI STORY HOUSING.

TWO OF THE RESIDENTS ARE THE DOWNTOWN ROCHESTER ALLIANCE AND THRESHOLD ARTS A LOCAL ART GALLERY AND RETAIL SPACE ALSO RUN BY NA URA ANDERSON.

>> IT DOESN'T COME AS A SURPRISE, WHEN WE SIGNED OUR LEASE WITH OUR LANDLORDS WE KNEW THIS WAS GOING TO BE COMING DOWN THE ROAD.

WE UNDERSTAND AS OUR COMMUNITY GROWS AND DEVELOPS HINGS WILL CHANGE.

WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT STILL ALLOWS US TO BE PART OF THIS REALLY VIBRANT PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND THAT WE DON'T LOSE THE HISTORY AND CHARACTER OF THIS SPACE ALONG THE WAY.

>> WHAT I HOPE TO SEE COME FROM IT IS A PLACE OF YES, AND.

IT'S GOING TO BE BUILDING ADDITIONAL HOUSING, AGAIN THAT'S GREAT FOR OUR GROWING DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR DOWNTOWN AND WE NEED TO KEEP THOSE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT WE HAVE ON THAT MAIN STREET.

WE NEED LOCAL COFFEE SHOPS, WE NEED LOCAL ARTS, WE NEED LOCAL RETAILERS SO HOW DO WE BALANCE OUT THE BOTH IN OUR COMMUNITY.

>> FINDING THAT MIDDLE GROUND WHERE EVERYONE'S A LITTLE UPSET BUT WE CAN ALL LIVE WITH THE RESULTS IS REALLY WHERE WE FIND TRUE COMPROMISE.

>> Eric: NOW, LATINO FEST IS HAPPENING TOMORROW SEPTEMBER 19TH AT PEACE PLAZA IN DOWNTOWN ROCHESTER.

IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY WE WANT TO NOTE THAT TANE DANGER OCCASIONALLY DOES WORK FOR ROCHESTER BASED MAYO CLINIC.

♪ >> Dominic: THERE WAS MUCH BALLYHOO AND MANY HEADLINES EARLIER THIS WEEK WHEN THE FEDERAL RESERVE RAISED INTEREST RATES FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MORE THAN THREE YEARS.

BUT HOW DOES THE QUARTER-POINT HIKE AFFECT THE DAY-TO-DAY LIVES OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME?

HONESTLY, NOT THAT MUCH.

SO LET’S GAUGE SOME OTHER, MORE MEANINGFUL INTEREST RATES.

WE CAN START, AS ALWAYS, WITH OUR BELOVED MINNESOTA VIKINGS.

AFTER LAST WEEK’S SOMEWHAT LESS-THAN-CONVINCING VICTORY, I WOULD PRICE IN TWO OR THREE INTEREST RATE HIKES BETWEEN NOW AND THE END OF THE SEASON.

BUT WHILE I’D LIKE TO BE A HAWK ON THIS, I MUST PREDICT A PRETTY SHARP DECLINE IN INTEREST BY ABOUT MID-JANUARY.

THE UPCOMING MIDTERMS, ELECTION DAY, ALL THE LEADING INDICATORS, INCLUDING LAWN SIGNS AND SCARY BLACK-AND-WHITE TV ADS, SUGGEST A SIGNIFICANT SPIKE IN RATES UNTIL EARLY NOVEMBER.

THIS IS ALMOST ALWAYS FOLLOWED, SADLY, BY PLUMMETING INTEREST RATES COME JANUARY.

HOW ABOUT ALL THE HAND-WRINGING ABOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USHERING IN, YOU KNOW, THE END OF HUMANITY?

THIS SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD COMMAND A PRETTY HIGH INTEREST RATE.

BUT THERE ARE SO MANY FAST-MOVING PARTS THAT IT FEELS LIKE WE NEED A LITTLE MORE DATA.

NOW, THE FINANCIAL GURUS TELL US THAT, IN AN UNCERTAIN INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT, YOU SHOULD “SHORTEN THE DISTANCE BETWEEN DECISION AND FEEDBACK.” IN PLAIN ENGLISH, THAT MEANS MAKE SMALLER DECISIONS CLOSER TOGETHER.

SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

ADJUST AS NEEDED.

SO, WATCH WHAT’S GOING ON WITH A.I., BUT MAYBE DON’T PANIC YET.

MAKE SURE YOU’RE REGISTERED TO VOTE.

AND THE VIKINGS?

YOU’RE ON YOUR OWN ON THAT ONE.

♪ >> Cathy: WAIT, TWO INCHES IN 1991 IN DULUTH?

WHAT THE HECK ABOUT THAT SNOW.

IT'S BEEN ALMOST TWO MONTHS SINCE WE LAST VISITED WITH OUR NEXT GUEST.

HOT DRY WEATHER AND DEEPENING DROUGHT WERE TOP OF MIND THEN.

BOTH STILL ARE BUT WE CAN ALSO ADD THE UPCOMING SUPER EL NINO TO THE LIZ.

WHEN PAUL DOUGLAS IS NOT JOINING HERE IN STUDIO B YOU CAN CATCH HIS PREDICTIONS IN THE STAR TRIBUNE, HE ALSO RUNS HIS OWN WEATHER COMPANY CALLED PRAEDICTIX.

RAIN, IT'S RAINING HARD IN PLACES THAT DON'T NEED THE RAIN.

>> I KNOW, STOP THE PRESSES.

BREAKING NEWS!

>> Cathy: GREAT NEWS FOR SOME PLACES.

>> YEAH, IT TAKES MONTHS TO GET INTO A DROUGHT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE MONTHS, MAYBE A YEAR TO PULL OUT OF THE DROUGHT.

I'M RELIEVED IT CAN STILL RAIN HERE.

THE BIG HEADLINE DURING EL NINO IS WE TEND TO HAVE SOMEWHAT DRYER WINTERS, MOST OF THE BIG STORMS ARE SOUTH.

THIS IS NOT GARDEN VARIETY EL NINO, THIS COULD BE A GODZILLA EL NINO.

>> Cathy: WHAT?

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> DON'T BE AFRAID.

WELL, BE A LITTLE AFRAID.

IT MEANS, LOOK, WE'VE HAD EL EL NINOs SINCE WE'VE HAD AN ATMOSPHERE AND OCEANS BUT THE ONE THAT'S BREWING SURVIVOR HISTORIC.

STRONGER THAN ANYTHING WE'VE SEEN BEFORE AND THIS IS UNREALISTIC, GODZILLA, EVEN OFF THE COAST OF L.A.

WOULD NOT BE WEARING DESIGNER SUNGLASSES.

[ LAUGHTER ] SO WHAT HAPPENS?

USUALLY EL NINOs EAD TO MILDER WINTERS, MORE MILD PACIFIC AIR, LONGER FOR MINNESOTA, A FEW ACTOR SLAPS BUT NOT AS MANY AS USUAL.

LESS SNOW FOR MOST EL NINOs AND MORE GLAZE ICE, MORE RAIN MIDWINTER, MORE MIXED PRECIPITATION.

>> Cathy: UGH.

>> WE'LL SEE.

ACCORDING TO ZEKE HOUSEFATHER, A CLIMATE SCIENTIST, WHICH ONE IS UNLIKE ANYTHING WE'VE SEEN.

HISTORICALLY WE ARE IN UNCHARTED WATERS, LITERALLY, WARM WATERS IN THE PACIFIC.

THAT SOLID RED LINE IS THE TEMPERATURE ANOMALY TO DATE.

THE DASHED LINE YOU CAN SEE IT PEAKS RIGHT AROUND NOVEMBER, DECEMBER.

WE CAN SEE THE EFFECTS OF EL NINO.

THOSE OTHER LINES BELOW ARE PREVIOUS SUPER EL NINOs.

SO THIS IS IN A DIFFERENT LEAGUE ON STRONGLY -- ODDS STRONGLY FAVOR WARMER WINTER.

MAYBE DES MOINES WINTER, SOME ARE THINKING EVEN KANSAS CITY WINTER.

TIME WILL TELL.

BUT AGAIN LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE NOW COMPARED TO PREVIOUS EL NINOs AND WE'VE HAD THESE EL NINOs AGAIN SINCE WE'VE HAD AN ATMOSPHERE AND OCEANS.

IN FACT, THEY SEEM TO BE GETTING STRONGER.

IF YOU LOOK AT FOSSILIZED CORAL, AND WHO AMONG US HASN'T -- -- [ LAUGHTER ] IN THE GALAPAGOS ISLANDS IN THE PACIFIC, THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN DID A STUDY THAT SHOWED A 37% INCREASE IN INTENSITY OVER THE LAST THOUSAND YEARS WITH, FOUR SUPER EL NINOs JUST SINCE 1982.

SO THESE NATURAL PHENOMENAL APPEAR TO BE GETTING STRONGER AND WARMER OVER TIME.

AND CLIMATE CHANGE COULD BE A FACTOR.

WE'VE HAD HOT SUMMERS IN THE PAST, ESPECIALLY IN THE 1930s, DUSTBOWL DAYS, TO THE RIGHT OF THAT GRAPHIC, YEAH, THAT'S CLIMATE CHANGE.

THAT'S THE RESULT OF GREENHOUSE GASES, RERADIATING WARMTH IN THE ATMOSPHERE AND THE OCEANS.

WE JUST HAD THE HOTTEST SUMMER ON RECORD NATIONWIDE.

ESPECIALLY NIGHTTIME LOWS ARE CONSISTENTLY WARMER, HERE'S MORE WATER IN THE AIR, IT DOESN'T GET AS COOL IN THE SUMMER.

FIFTH WARMEST SUMMER IN MINNESOTA.

AND SOME OF THAT WARMTH IS GOING TO BLEED INTO A VERY MILD AUTUMN.

THIS IS THE EUROPEAN MODEL FORECAST, DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, FIVE, EIGHT, TEN DEGREES WARMER THAN AVERAGE.

ONE OF MANY DIFFERENT MODELS.

QUITE A BIT COOLER OVER THE SOUTHERN U.S.

IN TERMS OF MOISTURE, EL NINOs, IT TENDS TO BE WETTER, CALIFORNIA TO TEXAS TO FLORIDA UP AND THE EAST COAST, THEY COULD SEE MORE RAIN AND SNOW.

MOST EL NINOS HERE TEND TO BE A LITTLE BIT DRYER, PARTICIPATION COULD GO EITHER WAY.

HOW MUCH RAIN IS IT GOING TO TAKE?

IN ONE MONTH THE TWIN CITIES ON UP TO DULUTH WOULD NEED TO SEE ABOUT 10 INCHES OF RAIN IN ONE MONTH, WHICH SEEMS UNLIKELY.

IF YOU LOOK AT PREVIOUS EL NINOS THESE ARE SOME OF THE BIG DROUGHTS GOING BACK TO THE 1930s AND I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE COLUMN ON THE RIGHT.

IT TOOK AN AVERAGE OF ONE TO TWO YEARS OF AVERAGE PRECIPITATION TO PULL OUT F THESE DROUGHTS, SO WE CAN'T EXPECT OVERNIGHT RESULTS, BUT AGAIN WITH THIS RECENT STORM, SOME ONE TO THREE-INCH AMOUNTS WHICH IS PUTTING DENTS IN THE DROUGHT, BUT I STILL THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT DROUGHT INTO SPRING OF NEXT YEAR.

>> Eric: EDUCATING AND ENTERTAINING AT THE SAME TIME.

>> WELL, THANK YOU.

>> Eric: YOU'VE DONE IT AGAIN.

>> GODZILLA HELPED.

>> Cathy: THAT WAS PRETTY FUNNY.

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.

♪ >> Eric: THE MINNEAPOLIS FIRE DEPARTMENT SWORE IN A NEW CHIEF LAST WEEK AND FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE DEPARTMENT'S HISTORY AN OUTSIDER GOT THE JO JOB.

REGINALD FREEMAN COMES FROM CONNECTICUT AND MOST RECENTLY DIRECTOR OF FIRE AND EMS IN SAUDI ARABIA.

AND WE HEARD NOW IT'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH WARMER FOR YOU.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> Eric: WE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT FIREFIGHTERS DURING THE 9/11 OBSERVANCE AND I WONDER IF THE PHYSICAL AND MUCH LESSER DEGREE OF COURSE BUT I WONDER IF THE KIND OF TRAUMATIC STUFF AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE INJURIES AND MENTAL ISSUES, IS THAT PERMEATING THE PROFESSION IN GENERAL?

>> ABSOLUTELY, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME ON THE SHOW ON BEHALF OF ALL OF OUR MEMBERS OF THE MINNEAPOLIS FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS.

AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, WHETHER IT BE THE PHYSICAL OR THE MENTAL IMPACT THAT RESPONDING TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN FOR SUCH TRAUMATIC EVENTS, THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT CERTAINLY HAS A DETRIMENTAL IMPACT ON FIRST RESPONDERS, LET ALONE OUR MINNEAPOLIS FIREFIGHTERS.

>> Cathy: AND WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO HELP THE FOLKS OUT THERE IN YOUR DEPARTMENT >> SO THERE'S LITERALLY NO ROCK OVERTURNED AS FAR AS WE ARE CONCERNED AS THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS FROM UR MAYOR'S OFFICE TO COMMISSIONER, COMMUNITY SAFETY SERVICES TO MY OFFICE AS THE FIRE CHIEF.

WE BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO ENSURE THAT OUR MEMBERS HAVE ALL THE REQUISITE ASSISTANCE THAT THEY NEED TO SEEK HELP OR TO SEEK COUNSELING AND TO BE ABLE TO DECOMPRESS IN A POSITIVE MANNER.

>> Eric: ARE YOU HAVING SIMILAR CHALLENGES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN STAFFING LEVELS?

>> I CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUT I DO KNOW WE ARE HONORED O SERVE ALONGSIDE THE DEDICATED PROFESSIONALS OF THE MINNEAPOLIS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

>> Cathy: YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON AS AN OUTSIDER TO TAKE THE JOB OF CHIEF AND HOW INTERESTING.

DO YOU SEE, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT LOOK AT THIS AND SAY, OH, MY GOSH, HE'S AN OUTSIDER, GOOD LUCK.

BUT DO YOU SEE POSSIBILITIES FOR GROWTH IN THE DEPARTMENT AS AN OUTSIDER?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

WE HAVE WORLD-CLASS FIREFIGHTERS IN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS.

AND IT'S TRULY AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AS THEIR 19TH FIRE CHIEF.

SO WHETHER THE CHIEF COMES IN FROM THE OUTSIDE OR THE INSIDE, WHAT MATTERS IS THAT THE CHIEF OF THE DEPARTMENT PUTS THE MEMBERS FIRST.

THE CHIEF OF THE DEPARTMENT ENSURES THAT THE PEOPLE UNDERNEATH THEIR COMMAND HAVE ALL THE TOOLS, RESOURCES, AS WELL AS THE REQUISITE KNOWLEDGE TO EXECUTE THEIR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES.

>> Cathy: YOU ARE THOUGH GOING INTO A PRETTY SOLID, STRONG CULTURE, AS IT WERE, AS AN OUTSIDER.

HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

>> YOU SAY THANK YOU AND I DON'T KNOW.

[ LAUGHTER ] AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO, YOU KNOW, PERSONS IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY, WE DON'T SAY THAT ENOUGH.

AND IT'S OKAY TO NOT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.

BUT THAT'S THE BEAUTIFUL THING ABOUT LEADING AN ORGANIZATION OF 450 MEMBERS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, YOU HAVE TO BE, YOU JUST HAVE TO BE HUMBLE ENOUGH TO ASK WHAT IS IT THAT I CAN DO FOR YOU TO ENSURE YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL AND GET THE JOB DONE.

>> Eric: IN THE TWIN CITIES METRO AREA IN 2024 THERE WERE 7400 FIRES AND 179,000 EMS AND RESCUE CALLS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE SEE ON THE TV, BRAVE FIREFIGHTERS IT'S MORE OR LESS RESCUE AND EMS, HUH?

>> SURE, SO WE'RE PROUD TO BE AN ALL-HAZARDS EMERGENCY MITIGATION ORGANIZATION JUST LIKE MANY FIRE DEPARTMENTS IN THE UNITED STATES.

BUT MOSTLY, 07% OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE EMS AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE PARTNERSHIP WE HAVE WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY EMS AS WELL AS THE REAT FOLKS WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT THAT EXERCISE OUR EMS PROTOCOLS ON A DAILY BASIS.

>> Cathy: AND THEN HOW DO YOU RECRUIT FOLKS WHO ARE THINKING, I WANT TO BE THE PERSON TO RUN INTO THE BURNING BUILDING, VERSUS GIVING SOMEONE OXYGEN?

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING?

HOW DO YOU -- HOW DO YOU RECRUIT PEOPLE THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS THEN IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FOLKS?

>> WE LOOK FOR GOOD PEOPLE, RIGHT, SO FIRST AND FOREMOST WE JUST LOOK FOR GOOD PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TEACH CHARACTER.

ONCE WE GET A GOOD PERSON ON THE TEAM, WE CAN TEACH THEM HOW TO BE A GREAT FIREFIGHTER OR A GREAT FIRST RESPONDER.

BUT YOU CAN'T TEACH ATTITUDE, SO WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HAVE AN EXTRAORDINARY TEAM WITHIN THE CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR NEW FAMILY MEMBERS TO JOIN US.

>> Eric: WELL, THANKS FOR COMING OVER AND GOOD LUCK ON YOUR POSITION AND WE'LL BE WATCHING.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

♪ >> Cathy: GOVERNOR MARK DAYTO IS RETURNING TO PUBLIC LIFE WITH THE RELEASE OF HIS MEMOIR AND BOOK TOUR AS HE APPROACHES 80 YEARS OLD.

BEFORE HE LAUNCHED THE NEW EFFORT, THE MAN WHO HAS SPENT MUCH OF HIS LIFE IN PUBLIC SERVICE SAT DOWN WITH MARY LAHAMMER FOR A VERY HONEST CONVERSATION WITH OUR POLITICAL REPORTER WHO HAS COVERED DAYTON FOR DECADES.

>> YEAH, I MISS IT.

>> Mary: GOVERNOR MARK DAYTON MADE HISTORY AS A GOVERNOR, U.S.

SENATOR, STATE AUDITOR, COMMISSIONER.

A LIFETIME OF PUBLIC SERVICE FOR THE DEPARTMENT STORE HEIR WHO'S NOW WRITTEN HIS OWN STORY ON HIS OWN TERMS.

>> IT IS A RETURN TO PUBLIC LIFE, IT'S A WAY OF SUMMARIZING WHAT MY LIFE HAS BEEN ABOUT, AND TURNED OUT VERY WELL, I THINK.

>> Mary: PERSEVERANCE, IT MAKES SENSE FOR THOSE OF US WHO KNOW YOU.

WHY DID YOU WANT THAT TO BE THE TITLE?

>> WELL, ONE OF THE KEYS OF MY SUCCESS AND FAILURES AS WELL WAS ADVICE I GOT FROM TED KENNEDY YEARS AGO.

HE SAID THAT PERSEVERANCE IS THE PREREQUISITE FOR SUCCESS IN POLITICS.

DOESN'T GUARANTEE SUCCESS.

>> I'M NOT PARTICULARLY COMFORTABLE AND I'M NOT PARTICULARLY OOD AT THE SMALL CHITCHAT KIND OF, YOU KNOW, POLITICKING.

>> Mary: WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY TODAY ABOUT WHERE YOU'RE AT WITH YOUR MENTAL HEALTH?

>> WELL, I FEEL HEALTHIER AND STRONGER IN MYSELF THAN I EVER HAVE, I WOULDN'T HAVE UNDERTAKEN THIS CAMPAIGN IF I DIDN'T KNOW I HAD THE NNER STRENGTH.

I HAVE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT I SLIPPED IN MY RECOVERY FROM ALCOHOLISM.

>> IN YOUR SUMMARY YOU WRITE ABOUT HOW UNCONVENTIONAL ALL OF YOUR RUNS FOR OFFICE WERE.

ALL OF YOUR APPROACH TO POLITICS.

COULD IT BE REPLICATED GAIN?

I CAN'T IMAGINE IT TODAY, COULD YOU?

>> WELL, YOU HAVE TO BE TRUE TO YOURSELF.

AND I WAS ABLE TO DO THAT AND STILL GET ELECTED.

IN THIS DAY AND AGE, IT'S SO CORRUPTED NOW.

I WADED THROUGH THE INITIAL FLOTSAM OF MY LIFE, MY NAME, PEOPLE'S ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ME AND THEN FINALLY AFTER YEARS AND A COUPLE FAILED RUNS, PEOPLE INALLY DID SEE THROUGH TO WHO I WAS AND MY SINCERITY.

>> WHY IS IT IMPORTANT FOR CANDIDATE, PUBLIC FIGURE TO SATURDAY WORD DEPRESSION.

>> TO ME IT'S BEING HONEST.

I WOULDN'T CHOOSE TO BE AN ALCOHOLIC, BATTLE DEPRESSION THROUGHOUT MY ADULT LIFE.

I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN MY ADULT LIFE WHO ARE PRETTY UNAWARE OF THEIR INNER DYNAMICS AND I'M MUCH MORE AWARE.

>> I REMEMBER WHEN YOU WALKED THROUGH THE PRESS CORPS AND SAID MY TIME IN THE SENATE DIDN'T WORK OUT, MY MARRIAGE DIDN'T WORK OUT BUT I'M GOING TO TRY THIS RUN FOR GOVERNOR.

THAT'S NOT THE USUAL WAY SOMEONE LAUNCHES A SUCCESSFUL RUN FOR GOVERNOR.

>> THAT'S CALLED PERSEVERANCE.

YES, I DID FAIL FIRST TIME I RAN FOR HE SENATE, FIRST TIME I RAN FOR GOVERNOR I LOST BOTH THOSE CONTESTS BUT I PERSEVERED.

>> CELEBRATE.

LOVE IT LOVE.

[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] >> THE MARRIAGE EQUALITY, DOES THAT STAND OUT FOR YOU AS -- >> I GET SHIVERS.

>> -- THE MOST IMPORTANT?

>> IT'S CERTAINLY RIGHT UP THERE.

YOU KNOW, THAT DAY WITH THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE IN FRONT OF THE CAPITOL WAS JUST SO OVERWHELMING FOR THEM EVEN MORE THAN ME.

I HAD ONE WOMAN PROBABLY IN HER 80s CAME UP TO ME WITH TEARS STREAMING DOWN HER FACE SAYING I THOUGHT I'D NEVER LIVE TO SEE THE DAY.

WE DEFEATED THAT IN 2012, THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT, AND SIX MONTHS LATER MADE IT LEGAL FOR PEOPLE TO MARRY THE PERSON THEY LOVE.

>> Mary: YOU ALSO TALK ABOUT CURRENT EVENTS IN THIS AND YOU SAID YOU WERE WRITING THE BOOK AS I.C.E.

OPERATIONS ARE HAPPENING IN MINNESOTA.

COULD YOU BELIEVE YOUR EYES?

WHAT DID YOU THINK OF SEEING THAT IN YOUR HOME STATE >> IT'S JUST AWFUL BEYOND COMPREHENSION.

THESE GESTAPOS WERE COMING IN AND TERRORIZING INNOCENT MINNESOTANS AND JUST SWARMING IN.

>> Mary: IS THERE ANYTHING YOU COULD HAVE DONE, A GOVERNOR COULD DO?

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE BALANCE OF POWER, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT, BULLY PULPIT, WHAT IS POSSIBLE IN THAT SITUATION?

>> WELL, I GO BACK TO MY DAYS, THE ANTI-VIETNAM WAR MOVEMENT, RICHARD NIXON AND HIS MINIONS HAD THE POWER.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS OVERWHELMING POWER TO BRING THOUSANDS OF I.C.E.

AGENTS, PARAMILITARY COMMANDOS INTO THE STATE, OVERWHELMS WHATEVER THE STATE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS CAN POSSIBLY DO IN RESPONSE.

AND CITIZENS, IT WAS THOUSANDS OF MINNESOTA CITIZENS WHO STOOD UP AND WENT OUT IN THE SUBZERO TEMPERATURES TO SAY THIS IS WRONG.

>> Mary: YOU WERE A VIETNAM PROTESTER, WOULD A YOUNG MARK DAYTON HAVE BEEN OUT THERE PROTESTING I.C.E.?

>> YES, YES, FOR SURE.

>> Mary: ABSOLUTELY, AND WOULD YOUR PARENTS HAVE BEEN DISAPPOINTED IN YOU?

>> THEY EVENTUALLY CAME AROUND.

ONLY THING WORSE THAN A BUM IS A RICH BUM.

>> Mary: DID YOU END LIFE NOT BEING A RICH BUM BEFORE HE PASSED?

>> YEAH, WE DID, WE HAD -- AND I LOVE MY FATHER DEEPLY, HE INFLUENCED A LOT OF UPBRINGING, CHARACTER , OPERATING AS A CEO.

>> Mary: THE DAYTONS SET THE STANDARD FOR ORPORATE CITIZENSHIP.

SPEAKING OF I.C.E., SO MUCH WAS MADE THAT THE TARGET CORPORATION, SOME OF THE BIG CORPORATIONS DIDN'T STAND UP AND DIDN'T SAY MORE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

>> YEAH, IT'S A DIFFERENT ERA NOW.

BACK THEN BUSINESS CEOs WERE CIVIC LEADERS, MOST OF THEM WERE BORN HERE, RAISED HERE, LIVED HERE.

I MEAN, THE THE WHOLE THING IN MINNESOTA FELT VERY PERSONAL TO ME BECAUSE MINNESOTA IS MY HOME.

AND I IDENTIFY MUCH MORE WITH THE STATE AND OUR PEOPLE THAN I DO WITH THE CORPORATIONS.

IT IS JUST TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE OPPRESSION, VIOLATION OF THE LAW AND OF HUMAN RIGHTS, AND ALL CONDONED BY POWERS THAT BE IN WASHINGTON.

IT WAS UNLIKE ANYTHING I'D EVER SEEN BEFORE IN THIS COUNTRY.

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS A VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF POLITICIAN WHO TAKES EVERYTHING VERY PERSONALLY AND VICIOUSLY RETALIATES AGAINST THOSE WHO STAND UP TO HIM.

>> Mary: HAVE YOU INTERACTED WITH THE PRESIDENT AT ALL?

>> NO.

I HAVE ONE TIME HE CALLED ME AT 6:30 IN THE MORNING AND I HAD ALERT HE WAS GOING TO CALL SO I WAS READY FOR THE CALL AND I SAID, THIS IS MARK DAYTON.

AND HE SAID, OH, I WAS TRYING TO REACH MATT DAMON.

AND SO OBVIOUSLY HIS SECRETARY HAD MISPLACED THE CALL.

>> I'VE LONG VOWED THAT I WOULD NEVER WRITE AN AUTOBIOGRAPHY SO MUCH OF MY LIFE HAS BEEN LIVED IN PUBLIC VIEW ALREADY.

HOWEVER AS I APPROACH MY 80TH YEAR WHICH I'M IN NOW AND FACE MY MORTALITY, I RECONSIDERED THAT VOW.

I DECIDED THAT I WANTED TO TELL MY STORY MY WAY BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE TOLD IT THEIR WAY.

>> IT WILL BE AN ADVENTURE, I'LL BE 80 YEARS OLD IN JANUARY, I DON'T HAVE MANY ADVENTURES LEFT.

♪ >> Cathy: SO MUCH POLITICS TO COVER IN OUR LIMITED TIME TONIGHT, SO LET'S DIVE RIGHT IN WITH TONIGHT'S PANEL.

REPUBLICANS UP FIRST TONIGHT.

ANNETTE MEEKS, FORMER CONGRESSIONAL STAFFER AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR CANDIDATE WHO NOW HEADS UP THE FREEDOM FOUNDATION OF MINNESOTA.

BRIAN MCDANIEL IS A FORMER LEGISLATIVE STAFFER, NOW A LOBBYIST AND STAND-UP COMEDIAN.

DEMOCRATS WITH THEM, ABOU AMARA IS A FORMER LEGISLATIVE STAFFER NOW AN ATTORNEY IN PRIVATE PRACTICE.

AND ROUNDING OUT THE GROUP, SARA LOPEZ, PARTY ACTIVIST AND POLICY DIRECTOR AT UNIDOS MINNESOTA.

WELCOME, ONE AND ALL.

BOY THESE POLLS THAT ARE OUT, BOTH OF THE TWO, THE BIG STATEWIDE RACES FOR GOVERNOR AND U.S.

SENATE ARE, YOU KNOW, NEARLY DEAD HEATS, REAL CLEAR POLITICS MOVE THE MINNESOTA U.S.

SENATE RACE TO A TOSSUP, WHAT IS GOING ON?

BRIAN MCDANIEL.

>> FIRST, I'M WEARING A PURPLE TIE.

>> Cathy: LOOK AT YOU.

>> CHIEF OF STAFF FOR THE SENATE REPUBLICANS PASSED AWAY TODAY.

VERY GOOD FRIEND JASON FOSSUM, HE WAS A BIG WINONA STATE BOOSTER SO I'M WEARING PURPLE TODAY TO HONOR HIM.

>> Cathy: VERY GOOD.

>> BUT THE POLLING, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY NUMBERS DON'T LIE.

POLL NUMBERS CAN BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS THE PROGRESSION THAT WE'RE SEEING NOT SO MUCH THAT WE KNOW WHETHER, YOU KNOW, THE SENATE RACE IS TIED OR TWO POINTS OR WHETHER, YOU KNOW, KLOBUCHAR IS UP 16 OR 7.

BUT IT SHOWS THAT AS THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES ARE MAKING THEMSELVES KNOWN TO VOTERS THAT THEY ARE WINNING SOME OF HEM OVER.

REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF HEADWINDS AND THIS DOESN'T ELIMINATE THOSE, BUT IT SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ENCOURAGING FOR THEM AT LEAST.

>> I THINK THE TEMPTATION IS -- LET'S LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE PRIMARY, THEY WERE UP BY 20 POINTS.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE COLLECTION METHODS BECAUSE THEY'RE MISSING THE MOOD OF THE STATE AND SOME THINGS THAT FEEL LIKE A TOSSUP I FEEL LIKE AT LEAST FOR THE RACES PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CAMPAIGN REALLY HARD.

BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW AFTER LIKE THIS RIMARY IF RIDING THE ROLLERCOASTER IS THE BEST IDEA.

>> I WOULD BUILD UPON WHAT BRIAN SAID AND A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO IS WE'RE PLAYING THE GAME DEMOCRATS HAVE PLAYED FOR 20 YEARS, OUTSIDE EXPENDITURES HELPING BOOST WE HAVE RIDICULOUS SPENDING LIMITS THAT LIMIT WHAT CANDIDATES CAN DO LEGALLY SO YOU HAVE OUTSIDE GROUPS THAT TAKE COMMAND OF YOUR CAMPAIGN ND THEY'RE DOING A LOT TO HELP BOOST LISA'S NAME I.D.

BOTH PREPRIMARY AND NOW PRE-GENERAL ELECTION.

AND CERTAINLY THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE BUT IT'S EALLY EITHER WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHEN YOU LOOK A MONEY IN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S RATES WHERE RON CHUTEZ IS BEATING AN EIGHT-YEAR INCUMBENT ATTORNEY GENERAL TODAY.

A SNAPSHOT IN TIME BUT ALSO SHOWS THE POWER OF EXPENDITURES AND HOW POWERFUL THEY ARE IN HELPING.

>> BOU.

>> THIS IS THE FIRST CT, RESET GOING INTO THE GENERAL ELECTION.

REAL CLEAR POLITICS IN 2018 MOVED THE TOP OF THE TICKET TO A TOSSUP.

THAT WAS A DONALD TRUMP MIDTERM ELECTION, STRUCTURALLY IT'S THE SAME.

I THINK THIS ELECTION IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO TWO THINGS, OPERATION METRO SURGE OR FRAUD.

THOSE TWO ISSUES RE GOING TO PERMEATE THE ELECTORATE AND MOBILIZE A DIFFERENT COALITION.

>> NOT AFFORDABILITY?

>> AFFORDABILITY IS OBVIOUSLY THE BACKDROP, THAT'S AT NATIONAL LEVEL.

IF REPUBLICANS WANT TO BE ABLE TO WIN THEY NEED TO TAKE FRAUD GREATER ON THE POLLING SCALE IT IS RIGHT NOW AND OPERATION METRO SURGE, PEGGY FLANAGAN'S CAMPAIGN WAS GROUNDED IN THAT GOING INTO THE RHYMERY, THIS IS GOING TO E THE FIRST GENERAL ELECTION THOSE VOTERS ARE GOING TO BE TURN OUT AND VOTE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP.

>> Cathy: BRIAN.

>> -- OH, SORRY.

>> -- ISN'T SOMETHING THEY'RE FEELING SUPER ADVICE CAL IN THEIR BONES, THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THEIR CHILDREN, THEIR SCHOOLS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT ALSO CONTESTED THE SAFETY OF LIKE HOSPITALS.

I THINK THAT OPERATION METRO SURGE HAS GIVEN US A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT POLITICAL LANDSCAPE FOR THE STATE.

>> I THINK WHAT ABOU IS SAYING CERTAINLY RINGS TRUE.

WE SAW WITH CRAIG AND FLANAGAN THAT ONE WAS TALKING FRAUD, ONE WAS TALKING METRO SURGE AND ONE OF THEM WON BY 20, SO YOU CAN'T DISCOUNT THAT AT ALL BUT I ALSO THINK THAT TAFOYA HAS TO LOOK AT THAT RACE AND SAY THERE ARE SOME AESTHETIC SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THE TWO MODERATE CANDIDATES THERE, CRAIG AND TAFOYA AND YOU CAN'T RUN THE SAME RACE CRAIG RAN BECAUSE THAT DIDN'T WORK.

SO WE HAVE TO LEARN FROM WHAT HAPPENED AND WE HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE A SILENT MAJORITY HANGING BACK THERE.

>> Eric: THE FRAUD SEEMS TO BE LANDING, ON'T YOU THINK?

>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, I THINK THE FRAUD ISSUE, AND I WAS IN WALKER LAST WEEKEND, PEOPLE ARE, THEY'RE NOT MAD, THEY'RE BAD WORD MAD.

THEY'RE REALLY MAD.

WE DON'T ET THE MONEY BACK, I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL RACE.

PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU PROSECUTED THEM AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN COLLECT THE MONEY BACK, WE DON'T GET THAT, NO,WARE NOT GOING TO GET THAT MONEY BACK BUT IMPORTANTLY THIS IS GOING TO BE A TURNOUT ELECTION.

PERHAPS THE OPERATION METRO SURGE WILL HELP D.F.L.ERS IN HENNEPIN AND RAMSEY COUNTY BUT I'LL TELL YOU IN GREATER MINNESOTA, IT'S GOING TO BE A TURNOUT AND OUR ELECTION TO LOSE.

>> THE POLLING IS ACTUALLY CLEAR, FRAUD IS UNIVERSALLY NOT ACCEPTED, REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRAT, INDEPENDENTS.

OPERATION METRO SURGE UNIQUELY HURTS REPUBLICANS, BRANDED WITH THE DONALD TRUMP WHITE HOUSE AND THIS IS A MIDTERM ELECTION, AGAIN VINDICATION OR NOT ON DONALD TRUMP AND THAT'S WHY OPERATION METRO SURGE MOBILIZES DEMOCRATS IN A WAY THAT IT DOESN'T REPUBLICANS.

>> BUT WITH THE NUMBERS WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT I THINK EVERYONE IN MINNESOTA IS MAD AT THE FRAUD, YOU'RE RIGHT.

REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS.

WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PLACE THEIR ANGER?

IS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S RACE IS THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY TIE IT TO KLOBUCHAR, IT MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO TO BE TIED TOO MUCH TO FLANAGAN IF SHE DOES HER JOB RIGHT BUT WITH ELLISON RIGHT NOW HE SEEMS TO BE THE ONE WHO'S TAKING THE MOST POINTS HIT.

>> THIS IS ALL HAPPENING WITHIN THE BACKDROP OF AN INCREDIBLY UNPOPULAR PRESIDENT.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHERE PEOPLE GET NEWS, NATIONAL NEWS, THE SUPREME COURT UPHOLDING THAT VOTE ATTACKS ON VOTING, MEDICAID, THERE'S A WAVE OF CUTS TO SOCIAL SAFETY NETS PEOPLE ARE FEELING.

I FEEL LIKE WHEN IT COMES TO THE CHIEF OF STAFF WE HAVE SOME BIG PROBLEMS THERE.

>> AND AGAIN KEITH ELLISON THE ATTORNEY GENERAL I'LL TAKE YOU BACK MEMORY LANE 2018 HE WAS DOWN 8 POINTS TO TIM WALZ, HE ENDED UP WINNING THAT ELECTION.

COALITIONS ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BETWEEN THE TOP OF THE TICKET AND THE BOTTOM OF THE ICKET BUT DON'T BE CONFUSED, KEITH ELLISON HAS ONE OF THE BEST TURNOUT OPERATIONS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA ALTHOUGH THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENCE IN POLLING I SUSPECT THAT WILL TIGHTEN AS WE GET CLOSER.

>> Eric: WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GUN ISSUE?

DURING THE SESSION THAT SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS GOING TO BE A HOT ONE FOR CANDIDATES TO DEBATE AND I DON'T HEAR MUCH ABOUT IT.

>> I'M NOT MINIMIZING ANY OF IT BUT WITH BOTH ABORTION AND WITH GUNS PEOPLE AREN'T MOVING.

THEY'VE MADE UP THEIR MINDS, YOU KNOW, GOOD, BAD, INDIFFERENT.

SO I THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES THAT STILL ARE MORE, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE RIGHT WORD BUT MORE IN PLAY THAN THOSE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE JUST SAID I'M THIS OR I'M THAT.

>> WELL, I THINK THE OTHER THING WITH THE GUNS, IT'S THE SAME WITH ABORTION AND ANY OF THOSE SOCIAL ISSUES IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLLING DATA IT'S JUST BARELY BREAKS LOW SINGLE DIGITS.

PEOPLE HAVE POCKETBOOK ISSUES, THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THAT'S WHERE THE FRAUD ENTERS IN, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN VICTIMIZED TWICE, ONE BY OUR STATE BECOMING A NATIONAL LAUGHINGSTOCK AND NUMBER TWO BY NOBODY CARING ABOUT IT AND TRYING TO GET THAT MONEY BACK.

I THINK THAT REALLY IS A VISCERAL REACTION TO SO MANY VOTERS THAT THEY'RE JUST ANGRY AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE IT OUT ON ALL THE SO-CALLED INCUMBENTS, KEITH ELLISON AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO WHERE AMY HAS THE GREATEST VULNERABILITY IS PEOPLE LOOK AT HER ENDORSING WALZ LAST YEAR AYING HE'D BE A GREAT THIRD TERM GOVERNOR.

>> AND I'M SORRY -- >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY SO GUNS I THINK ACTUALLY MAY NOT BE A TOP LINE ISSUE ONE, TWO, OR THREE BUT IF YOU SEGMENT OUT AT THE STATE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL SUBURBAN RACES HAS REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN SLIPPING THIS IS THE TYPE OF ISSUE THAT KEEPS DEMOCRATS IN THE FOLD AND REMINDS THEM WHAT'S AT STAKE OUTSIDE OF THE ECONOMY, OUTSIDE OF THE CORRUPTION HAPPENING IN.

A. A. ISSUES LIKE GUNS IS A REMINDER OF CULTURE ISSUES THAT THE SUBURBAN OTER SHOULD BE MOVING TO THE D.F.L.

>> Cathy: HELP ME OUT WITH THE DATA CENTER ISSUE.

DID U.S.

IT HAVE THE LEGS THAT IT APPEARS IT HAS?

>> OH, YEAH, OH, YEAH.

>> Cathy: INTERESTING BEDFELLOWS.

>> IT'S LIKE GAMBLING, GAMBLING YOU GOT THE FAR LEFT AND THE FAR RIGHT.

DATA CENTERS ARE KIND OF THE SAME WAY AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO AREN'T MAYBE DIRECTLY IN THE MIDDLE OF IT WHO KIND OF DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO THINK, AM I SUPPOSED TO LIKE IT LIKE THIS GUY OR AM I SUPPOSED TO HATE IT.

>> I WOULD DESCRIBE IT AS INSIDE OUTSIDE POLITICS, OUTSIDE DYNAMIC WITH THE ELECTORATE BUT THE INSIDE AT THE CAPITOL IS GOING TO BE MORE INTERESTING.

>> IT'S THAT IT'S THE VOICES ON BOTH SIDES ARE JUST A MOB YELLING ND MOST EOPLE ARE IN THE MIDDLE GOING, WAIT, DON'T WE NEED THESE?

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLLING DATA, AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS RISING PROPERTY TAXES, A DATA CENTER TAKES CARE OF THAT AND THEN SOME AND THEY BRING THAT PROSPERITY TO SMALL TOWNS AND RURAL COMMUNITIES THAT COULD REALLY BENEFIT.

>> Eric: SARAH.

>> WHEN IT COMES TO DATA CENTERS EVERYBODY IS INCREDIBLY CONCERNED ABOUT THEM AND SO MUCH THAT IT'S CREATING AN ENERGIZING JUST LIKE OPERATION METRO SURGE A WHOLE NEW BASE OF VOTERS AND THE WAY THAT FOLKS HAVE BEEN GOING ABOUT IT IS WITHOUT ANY TRANSPARENCY, COMPLETELY DISMISSING THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, HAS THEM IN REAL BAD FOOTING.

WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH RESOURCES THAT ARE GOING TO TAKE TO SUPPORT THEM, ENERGY, WATER, AND THEY REALLY DON'T CREATE THAT MANY JOBS AND ALL THE STUDIES POINT THAT REALLY NOT MAKING THE REVENUE ANY BETTER.

SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, ANNETTE.

>> WELL, I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH YOU, THEY DON'T TAKE THAT MANY NATURAL RESOURCES ANYMORE.

THOSE ARE OLD DATA CENTERS, NOW WE HAVE NEW DATA CENTERS BUT I AGREE WITH YOU ON THE TRANSPARENCY, REALLY BAD IDEA.

>> Cathy: WE SHOULD DO A DEBATE ABOUT THIS.

>> Eric: TO BE CONTINUED.

THANKS, PANEL.

♪ ♪ >> THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE COULD WOULD COME AND WAIT FOR THEIR TRAINS AND THEN THERE WAS STAIRWAYS THAT WOULD TAKE THEM DOWN TO THE PLATFORMS FOR THEM TO BOARD THEIR TRAINS.

THERE WAS INFORMATION BOARDS HERE, TICKETING, ALL THAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY GOING ON.

THERE'S AN INTERESTING FEATURE THAT GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND THE TOP UP HERE.

HISTORY OF TRANSPORTATION IN MINNESOTA.

>> HAS IT CAUGHT UP TO MY HONDA?

>> NOPE, IT STOPPED PRETTY MUCH AT TRAINS.

♪ >> Eric: NOW ONTO OUR INDEX FILE QUESTION.

LAST TIME I ASKED YOU ABOUT A MYSTERY MINNESOTAN IN DAKOTA COUNTY.

A GROUP OF PEOPLE MADE NATIONAL VOTING HISTORY.

AMONG THEM IS ONE PERSON WHO IS BELIEVED TO BE THE FIRST PERSON TO PERFORM THIS ACT.

OUR QUESTION FOR YOU WAS SIMPLE, AND MOST OF YOU ROSE TO THE OCCASION QUITE NICELY.

A FEW OF YOU MISSED THE MARKET.

>> Eric: OH, DON, SO CLOSE.

BUT WE ARE STICKLERS FOR EXACT ANSWERS.

MARGUERITE ANNE NEWBURGH WOULD EVENTUALLY BECOME MARGUERITE ANNE NEWBURGH COLE AFTER HER HISTORIC ACT.

FOR ALL THE DETAILS, KATHY FROM WOODBURY, YOU'RE ON.

>> Eric: WELL, THANK YOU, KATHY.

HERE'S MARGUERITE NEWBURGH CARE'S MARGUERITE NEWBURGH CAST'S MARGUERITE NEWBURGH CASTIN MARGUERITE NEWBURGH CASTING ARGUERITE NEWBURGH CASTING THGUERITE NEWBURGH CASTING THATERITE NEWBURGH CASTING THAT AITE NEWBURGH CASTING THAT ALLE NEWBURGH CASTING THAT ALLOTNEWBURGH CASTING THAT ALLOT.EWBURGH CASTING THAT ALLOT.EWBURGH JUST ENOUGH TIME FOR SHOW-CLOSING MUSIC.

THIS WEEK BACK IN 2007 JEVETTA STEELE SHARED A SONG WITH US FROM HER ORIGINAL MUSICAL, "TWO QUEENS, ONE CASTLE."

TAKE A LISTEN AND BE CAREFUL.

♪ ♪ >> SINGING: WHEN I TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK OVER MY LIFE I'M AMAZED AT ALL WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ♪ ♪ COULD NEVER IMAGINE THE LIFE THAT WE'VE LIVED.

I NEVER THOUGHT I'D END UP WITH YOU.

♪ ♪ WE STARTED OUT WITH THE PROMISE, A FUTURE FILLED WITH DREAMS WE BOTH ADORED OH, MY ♪ ♪ BUT NOW I'M STANDING HERE ASKING GOD ASKING LORD, HOW MUCH MORE HOW MUCH MORE?

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