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♪ ♪ ♪ > Well, good evening and welcome to " Making It Grow."

We sure are glad you could join us tonight.

I'm Amanda McNulty, and I'm a Clemson Extension Agent.

And tonight we are coming to you from ETV Carolinas, where our friends in Rock Hill are, and we thank them so much for having us.

Don't we, Terasa Lott?

> Absolutely.

It feels like we're home and I guess that it's not a surprise since this is just another ETV station.

So it's just like being at home, but a little different set, a little different surroundings.

Amanda> Well, and we actually brought our desk up, which was a lot of trouble for somebody.

Fortunately, we didn't have to move it, right?

[laughter] Terasa> That's right.

Amanda> Thank you for making the trip too and everybody.

It's really nice up here.

Terasa> It is a beautiful part of the state.

Amanda> Yeah.

Anyway, so we have some new people with us and some older people.

Abigail McKinney, you hadn't been on in a while.

We're so glad you came back!

And you're the Urban Horticulture Agent in Chester, Lancaster, and York, that's a big area to cover.

Abigail> It is.

It's a lot of counties, yeah.

Amanda> So do you take calls?

I mean, people call all the time from all those?

> Yeah, we get a lot of calls, especially in York County and Lancaster, because they're both growing pretty big right now.

Amanda> So they're people who necessarily didn't grow up in the South and don't know about gardening down here?

<Yeah> Wow, do you have a Master Gardener class?

Abigail> Yes.

We've got a pretty big Master Gardener class this year, about 30 people, so.

Amanda> That's big, yeah.

Well, we thank you for coming.

Abigail> Thank you.

Amanda> Yeah, yeah.

Brandon Green, I think you've been with us not terribly long ago, but you didn't have to drive as long today.

Brandon> Didn't have to drive as far today, thank goodness.

This is right here in my backyard.

So it was a short drive for me today, so.

Well, we sure are happy you made the short drive to join us.

And you are the Urban Hort Agent in Union.

And Union you said hasn't quite experienced the growth of some of the other upstate places?

> It's not.

It's still a very small, kinda small town feel to it and rural community, but you got everything growing on both sides of it.

So sooner or later it'll get to us, but it's still got that good small town charm to it.

Amanda> And it's pretty up there too, isn't it?

Beautiful rolling... Yeah, beautiful.

Great to just drive around and whenever I have to go do a site visit, I love just driving out in the middle of the country and just seeing what's on the side of the road.

Amanda> Yeah, so I bet there's still some old people who've had family farms up there.

Brandon> Oh yeah, absolutely.

I've met several of them that said, "I've been on this property for 3 or 4 generations.

Amanda> Golly gee, isn't that something.

Yeah, well, I'm glad that you can still help those people.

I bet you have to ask them questions sometimes.

Brandon> Sometimes they know more than me and sometimes they tell me, "Well, that's how my grandma used to do it, this way."

If Grandma did it that way and it worked, keep doing it the way Grandma did it.

Amanda> I wouldn't complain about what Grandmama said.

[laughter] Especially if it worked.

Michelle Crump, we're so happy you came.

And you're from Wilson's Nursery, which is right here.

And you brought all these beautiful plants for us.

Thank y'all so very much.

And y'all have an interesting... genealogy at Wilson's Nursery.

You have all these different generations of Wilson's, and now different generations of your family who've worked there, too?

Michelle> Yes, ma'am.

Amanda> That's kind of fun.

Michelle> Well, thank you for having me today.

They're on their fourth generation that is working there now.

Amanda> And your mother-in-law works there?

> Yep, she's been there almost 40 years.

Amanda> So what kind of things do y'all have in the nursery?

Michelle> We have shrubs, trees, perennials, annuals, house plants, pots- Amanda> Gracious!

You've got it all.

Michelle> Concrete, we have a little bit of everything.

Yes, ma'am.

Amanda> Okay, okay.

Well, thank you for the really pretty things that you brought today.

Yeah, yeah.

Four generations and then two in your case.

Michelle> Three in my case.

No, two in my case.

You're right.

My husband, my mother-in-law, and myself.

Amanda> Your husband too?

<Yes> Good gracious.

Well, do y'all eat lunch together or not?

Michelle> Yes.

[laughter] Amanda> Well, good for y'all.

Anyway, so... we're gonna have a treat for you.

Feathers, fur, and 4-H.

We had some 4-H agents who came with some children who had some wonderful pets, whatever, maybe, or, you know, animals that they were supposed to be showing off, but they were kind of pets too, sort of.

Some of them had costumes that they wore, which I thought was quite interesting.

Anyway, oh, la la la, Terasa, sometimes we have "Gardens of the Week," but I think now we have more of a montage sometimes.

Terasa> We do, and I wanted to say that's a perfect segment right now because it's fair season and so I'm looking forward to the Orangeburg County Fair, which it's taking place now, but I'll be able to see this weekend some of the livestock shows going on.

<Oh, great!> Yeah, but "Gardens of the Week," that's the time when we get to highlight what you're doing in your yards or gardens.

So it's a combination of good photography skills and a green thumb.

So let's take a look at this week's collection.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ Plants can hold so much history.

That last photo from Gail Bolt is what she described as a "pass-along plant."

She said a horticulture student at Clemson took the plant from a greenhouse to his mother in the 1950s, and she propagated it, and that particular specimen ended up with Gail.

She said she didn't even know the name.

So I took the liberty to do a little digging, and I think it's in the genus Achimenes, which is commonly called Cupid's bow.

So maybe we potentially solved a little mystery for Gail, and it's such a treasure to have those pass-along plants.

Amanda> Isn't that fun.

50 years ago from a greenhouse at Clemson.

My word.

Wonder if she had to sneak in and sneak it out.

[laughter] Maybe they had lots of cuttings.

Let's hope so.

I'm sure that's what it was.

Okay.

Well, we might have some people who want some questions answered.

Terasa> That's right, we're going to do our best to help.

First, Betty in Rock Hill.

She said, "I've been saving seed from my squash and I'm getting all kinds of weird things that don't look like the original plants.

What is going on?

[laughter] Amanda> I wish we could see some pictures of 'em, wouldn't that be fun?

Abigail, what you think?

Abigail> I do actually have some squash from some seeds that were saved a couple of times.

Amanda> That doesn't look like a squash that I would think of, necessarily.

Abigail> That is the point.

So when you save seed repeatedly, squash especially, things in the Cucurbit family, cross-pollinate really, really freely.

So even if you have, if you're growing pumpkins and zucchini- Amanda> Pull your glass just back a little bit, sweetheart.

Thank you.

Abigail> If you have pumpkins and zucchini and then you save the seed from one of your pumpkins, even if that pumpkin looks completely normal, that seed that you grow out might have been cross pollinated with some squash in your garden.

And you get really freaky looking stuff like this.

This lady had some pumpkins and some zucchini and some patty pan squash all in one garden, very close together.

And it looks like they all kind of very freely cross-pollinated.

It is edible still normally, but you do have to be careful, because things in the Cucurbit family, when you save seed repeatedly, you could have something called cucurbitacin build up, which is kind of a toxic compound that's found in some squash.

So when you cut it up, if it's really bitter, you probably shouldn't eat it because it can hurt your stomach.

Amanda> Gracious.

Well... I wouldn't want to have a bitter squash casserole anyway, but that's fascinating.

Terasa> It'd be really fun for decorating for fall.

Amanda> Yeah, I don't think she should get rid of 'em, I mean, they'd be wonderful to decorate with.

But next year in her garden, maybe start over with some nice, fresh seed, don't you think?

Abigail> That's what I would do.

Amanda> Okay.

They are kinda cool looking, though.

Yeah.

Okay.

I wonder if they were resistant to the squash vine borer or if she got such nice- Abigail> Probably not, I would wager.

Amanda> Anyway, Yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Well, I'm glad she brought 'em to you.

Terasa> I'm disappointed.

If you had said yes, I was gonna say, "Well, I'm gonna grow them even if I can't eat them."

[laughter] Amanda> But Terasa, you told me that now there are some that are so fertile and you could put a row cloth over them if you wanted to.

Is that right?

Terasa> Oh, that's right, they don't require that outside pollination, yeah.

So you could grow them under a row cover and then not have to worry potentially about.

And then there's, like, Tromboncino squash that is technically more of a winter squash, but you can eat it when it's young and immature.

Very similarly to how you would a yellow summer squash.

They're supposed to be resistant, not immune, but resistant.

Amanda> Yeah, and everybody likes zucchini, but if you get the yellow squash, you get the vitamins that are in, you know, whatever vitamin A or whatever it is, that you wouldn't get in the green.

So I think it's good, I mean, I like yellow squash.

Terasa> I've used them kind of interchangeably when baking.

So you could make squash bread instead of zucchini bread.

Amanda> Yeah, that's true.

Terasa> You know, the flavor in my opinion, neither one really, it takes on kind of the flavor of whatever you cook it with.

They're not real strong.

Amanda> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Squash is fun, yeah.

And, you know, that's a great summer vegetable.

Yeah.

Well, thanks for telling us all that.

Okay, Terasa.

Terasa> Let's see... who we might be able to help.

Let's try Charles in Greer.

Charles said, "The woods behind my house are covered in a vine and now it's starting to climb my fence and onto my shed.

What is it and how do I get rid of it?"

Amanda> Gracious goodness, Brandon, you got any ideas?

> I do, so I actually have a cutting from a, what the vine was that he was dealing with.

As many of you, just from the description, probably could figure out this is a kudzu vine.

And they frequent, this one, I actually took off the side of the road because it just grows and grows and grows.

They can sometimes even grow a foot long in a day.

Amanda> And they're nitrogen fixers, I think.

Brandon> They are legumes, which is a good thing.

But the problem is they grow so rapidly.

and they love our climate here.

So they grow, they're invasive.

They're not native here, and they just take over everything.

They were actually originally brought here to be erosion control Amanda> I've heard that.

Brandon> And they would actually recommend it to be planted and now not so much.

Amanda> You know, we found a reference one time that said, "If carefully cultivated, it may come back year after year."

And we were like, "Mmm."

Brandon> I will say that is confirmed.

[laughter] So please if you have a problem with kudzu and trying to get rid of it, the main thing is if it's small enough to make sure you get it out of there quickly, either by pulling it up, but if you leave any of the root, it will come back.

There's actually companies that lease goats to you, and you can actually fence in a goat in an area that has kudzu and the goats will eat the kudzu.

Won't kill it instantly, but all the grazing on it will actually cause it to finally die and go away.

And then of course there is some chemical herbicides that are effective against it.

The biggest thing about using herbicide on it is knowing what's surrounding it.

So if you have any desired plants making sure those herbicides won't hurt the desired plant.

Amanda> So that it's not gonna move through the soil, or something like that.

Brandon> Just try to spray and kill this plant, you know.

So there's a lot of nonselectives.

But there are some, like you said, legumes that just affect legume plants that you can spray on this as long as you don't have beans beside it, it'll just kill this one plant.

Amanda> Well, if you had beans beside it, they weren't gonna be there for very long.

[laughter] Brandon> Exactly.

But it's a problem that we deal with a lot because it is one of our top invasive plants in South Carolina.

Amanda> And, you know, I've read that when it's over 90, it stops growing, that it hates that heat.

And so it may, you know, I mean don't- Brandon> I would say it may stop growing at that point.

But, I mean, it's still- Amanda> I mean, but it's still all over everything.

Brandon> And that's the biggest problem with it, is that once it gets on top of trees and shrubs, it makes such a thick blanket that it shades out everything below it.

And so it really kind of, it can take down a whole tree because the tree just can't get enough sunlight from it.

Amanda> The flowers smell good.

It smells exactly like grape bubble gum, don't you think?

Brandon> It has a very good fragrance and everything, but again, I personally don't want it in my yard It will take over everything.

Amanda> Okay.

Alright.

Michelle, I think that you picked up some things on your way out besides the beautiful things behind us.

What you got to talk about?

Michelle> I brought you in, this is an Encore Azalea.

Amanda> Isn't that a pretty color, gosh.

Michelle> They come in lots of colors.

I like this one because you can plant it, it grows and blooms three times a year.

Spring, summer and fall.

It blooms for a really long time.

<Wow> And it comes in all kinds of colors.

Amanda> Does it?

> Yeah.

The prettiest one I've seen so far is, pink and white.

It's called a Twist.

Amanda> Come on!

Michelle> And then a new one, we haven't got the new one yet, but the new one is called Black Velvet or Velvet and it's deep, dark purple.

Almost black it's so purple.

Amanda> Well, and everybody likes the new ones, but that wouldn't show up as well as something like this.

<No it would not.> This one is such a showstopper.

Gosh!

Do they like partial shade?

Michelle> They will thrive anywhere.

<No!> It's not like the typical azalea.

Amanda> Not like the old fashioned ones?

Michelle> No.

You can put it in the sun, it stays green year round.

It doesn't lose its leaves.

Amanda> How big will this one get?

Michelle> Three to five, three feet tall, three to five feet wide, yeah.

Amanda> And probably over time.

<Yeah> Boy, that's a good lookin' plant.

Michelle> They don't get, I mean most of them stay, the tallest Encore is I think 4.5 foot tall.

<Okay> So they don't huge.

Amanda> Gosh, that is so- Michelle> Cuts out on a little of the pruning too.

Amanda> I was gonna say, cause it's hard to prune azaleas kind of, you have to do a little bit every year.

<Yep> Gosh, that's pretty.

And kind of carefree?

Michelle> Yes, ma'am, sure is.

Amanda> Good gracious.

Well, thank you for bringing such a beautiful specimen.

And people might like that purple one.

I mean people like curiosities.

<Oh, yeah> I mean when you ride by, that one would just be so pretty to see.

Well thanks for showing us that.

Gracious goodness.

Well, alright, what you got over there, sis?

Terasa> Ready for another question?

Let's see if we can answer a question for Camille, in Lancaster.

She said, "My friend gave me a houseplant, and I know it's either Pothos or Philodendron.

How can I tell the difference?"

It's a great question, those are very common houseplants.

Amanda> Are they?

My goodness gracious.

Well, Abigail, are you the ID expert today?

Abigail> I am.

I've brought a philodendron and a pothos plant with me.

Amanda> I'm not familiar with the name of the second one.

So what was that?

Abigail> The pothos.

<Okay> I have a Snow Queen pothos, and then I've also brought a Brazil philodendron.

So we can kind of look at some of the differences.

The philodendrons, they tend to have more heart-shaped leaves, so they kind of look a little bit more like hearts than the pothos does.

<Okay> These are more kind of elongated and pointed.

<Yes> And then the leaves on the pothos are a little bit thicker and waxier.

If you touch them they're a bit sturdier.

The philodendron has kind of soft really flexible leaves.

<Does it> And then the last ID feature that I normally use, and I tell people because it's a little easier, is that the philodendron will have a little sheath that the leaf comes out of.

So when it's growing a new leaf, it's got a little sheath that the leaf pops out of to keep it safe.

The pothos does not, it'll just grow the leaf straight out.

Amanda> The pothos looks like it's growing pretty good.

Abigail> Yes.

They are often mislabeled.

So it's important to kind of understand some of the differences between them.

Amanda> Do they take the same conditions?

Abigail> They're pretty similar.

They're both normally just houseplants.

They won't survive the winter outside and the sun can sometimes be a bit too intense for them.

Light requirements are pretty similar.

They both just like bright indirect light.

<Alright> And then same watering.

When you water them, you kind of just want to make sure the soil is really dry before you go in and give it a lot of water.

Amanda> Okay.

So don't baby it to death?

<Mhm> Okay.

Well... do both of them grow kind of long, do you need to trim them occasionally?

Abigail> Yeah, they're both trailing so they'll have nice vines that grow out.

They don't grow super quickly, so you probably don't have to do a whole lot of trimming.

But if you want to propagate it or take cuttings, it's good to do.

and it helps it get a little bit fuller.

Amanda> Okay.

And I guess you could give it a mild, weak fertilizer occasionally?

Abigail> Yeah, they have houseplant fertilizers.

You can also just use a general fertilizer and just fertilize in the spring when things are actively growing.

Amanda> Oh, okay.

And not worry about it.

Well, thank you so much.

Is one more expensive than the other particularly?

Abigail> Normally it depends on the variety that you're buying or the cultivar.

But I found that the philodendrons nowadays are a little bit more expensive because they're a bit more exotic than the pothos are.

Pothos has become a really popular houseplant.

Amanda> Really?

Okay.

Well, thanks for the explanation.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

So, the twins that can be told apart.

Okay.

Thank you very much.

Terasa?

Terasa> Next up, we have a question from Chris in Jonesville.

"When all the leaves fall on my lawn, what should I do with them?

Should I leave them where they are, mulch them, make them into a pile, burn them?"

<My goodness> There's lots of options.

Amanda> Yeah there are.

I imagine there's some of those options that are better than others, Brandon.

> So for this, the key thing that he said in here was that it was on his lawn.

You really don't want a lot of leaves piled up on your lawn, because it can hurt your grass, cause it doesn't allow the sun to get to those grass blades.

So my recommendation is to mulch them up either run over them with a lawn mower, get them kind of in small little pieces.

They will break down and add nutrients back to your soil.

So they're actually very helpful if you leave them in the grass.

Just in small little pieces so they can fit better.

<Okay> If you are gonna move them, I don't recommend hauling them off because again, you're kind of wasting that resource.

I'd either, if there is too many to mulch up, add them to your landscape beds.

Use them as a natural mulch.

<Wow!> Or you can take them, actually pile them up and make them into a compost pile and then you can use that compost in a later bed or something.

<Alright> Burning would be my last resort because again, you're really kind of losing that resource.

You're just kinda wasting that resource that you would've had.

Amanda> And a lot of places don't want you to burn, if I'm not mistaken.

Brandon> Depending on where you're from and what ordinance is going on, you really gotta be careful about burning cause it can get out of hand big time on you.

Amanda> We know that now.

Brandon> So definitely, in my opinion, mulch 'em up.

Make 'em more nutrients for your lawn and for your soil and then I would add them to your landscape beds as a good natural mulch.

Amanda> And it seems like if you let the grass clippings fall back and then I guess if you did the leaves, you could probably cut down on the amount of fertilizer that your grass might require.

Brandon> It really could, yeah.

Because those nutrients that you would lose from those grass clippings up on those leaves are now just being added back into it.

So you're just, whatever fertilizer you paid for already, you're just adding it back in again for free.

Amanda> Sounds like a good system to me.

Michelle> So if you had to mulch something over the winter, say banana trees or something like that, that would be something good to put on them, wouldn't it?

Brandon> Putting in a couple of the leaves would definitely be a good way to keep heat into those plants need to be covered up with those roots.

But especially if the leaves only fallen on them, don't pull the leaves off, leave 'em right there if you want to add pine needles or something to it you can.

But the leaves are already a good insulator to start with.

Terasa> You know, back in my days working in stormwater education.

<Yes> The leaves can actually serve as a pollutant.

Sometimes when people will bag them up for removal, which we're saying is probably not the best option, but they can block storm drains.

And so that's a potential flooding issue.

And if too many nutrients from those leaves end up in our waterways, that's a problem.

So "leaf" it on the lawn.

Ha ha ha.

"Leaf" it on the lawn is what I like to say.

But you got to mulch it up.

Amanda> Okay, yeah.

And you don't have to have a special mulching mower, you don't have to buy anything?

Brandon> No, they have the mulching attachments and all that, but they raise your blade up a little higher run 'em over and just get them nice and fine, chopped up and they'll be fine.

Amanda> Go back and forth.

<Yep> Okay.

Thank you so much.

Alright.

Michelle.

Something else beautiful for us.

Michelle> Yes, ma'am.

Amanda> You can tell fall is here.

Michelle> It's mum season.

<Yes> The thing I like about mums is they stay pretty for a good long time.

I mean, we're just starting to get them in.

Amanda> And they're decent just opening.

Michelle> Yeah, we're just starting to get them in because the weather has been a little too hot for anything.

But we've got all different colors, we've got three or four different sizes.

If you plant it in your yard, it will come back next year.

You may get mum blooms in the spring and the fall.

It's possible to do.

If you put it in the ground and plant it, 99 percent of the time it comes back.

Amanda> Gosh.

And sometimes are there several plants in a pot and you could- > Sometimes, yes.

Amanda> You could tease them apart if you wanted to?

Michelle> Yes.

Sometimes we have, I don't have any in yet, but we do have them that are three different colors in a pot.

Amanda> Woah!

That's a little too wacky for me.

[laughter] <There's three different plants> That sounds like a box of crayons.

[laughter] And they're not particularly, don't require a lot of care.

Michelle> They do not.

They do not.

I have to say I'm one for, I don't get to water a whole lot.

Amanda> It's a good plant for you?

Michelle> Yes.

My dad always told me when he planted it in the ground, "If God wants it watered, he'll water it."

And luckily, all his stuff lived.

Mine, not so much, but his yes.

Amanda> So you could have some that were ten years old.

<Yes, you can> Isn't that fun?

Yeah.

Wow!

And they just add so much color.

Michelle> They do.

It's a beautiful fall decoration.

Amanda> Yeah.

Okay.

Well thank you so much.

It'd be fun to put with those funky squash too.

[laughter] I mean, we could make a fun display, I think.

Michelle> You sure can.

Terasa> We have some in the ground that were my mother-in-law's.

Amanda> You do not.

Terasa> We do.

Amanda> Come on!

They were Andy's mother's?

<Mhm> Wow!

That's kinda sweet, Terasa.

Terasa> And then, of course, we have the... the Ryan's pink, which are more known for growing not as a pot for a fall, but, you know, growing as a perennial in the yard.

Amanda> And do they attract pollinators.

I think they do.

Terasa> They do, yeah.

And they typically bloom kind of later in the year.

Amanda> Yeah.

And you can cut them I think, and use them as a cut flower if you wanted to bring in them inside.

Michelle> You can.

Terasa> Ryan's pink and Ryan's apricot I think Barbara Smith gave me some.

So Barbara, who recently retired from HGIC, we miss her.

Amanda> Yeah, yeah.

She's a treasure trove of information.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, have you got something else for us?

Terasa> I bet we do.

Let's see.

Abby and I were talking earlier about muscadines, and I think she has kind of an interesting variety to share.

Abigail> I do.

So we've got a garden at our extension office, and there are two muscadine vines that grow over there.

One of them is called Razzmatazz muscadines, they're very small.

I would have brought some in, but the deer have been eating all of my fruit while I've been gone.

And then the other one we have are called Ruby Crisp muscadine.

They're a really nice variety They are self-fertile.

So you don't have to have another vine, which is really nice.

They're really big.

You can see they kind of make a really nice round muscadine.

They're very sweet.

A lot of people don't really like the way muscadines taste or they really like them.

I've run into both groups of people, but these are a little bit more mild.

They don't taste as much like a muscadine.

And they've got really thin skin, so you can just eat the whole thing.

<Woah!> A lot of times people don't like them because the skin's too thick.

They have a few seeds in them, but it's not as much as the regular muscadine.

So I really like them and they've been really easy to grow.

Amanda> Now, what's the Scuppernong muscadine thing?

Abigail> So Scuppernongs and muscadines are the same plant.

Normally I find people say Scuppernongs when they're talking about the green types of the muscadines.

And then people say muscadine when they have the purple types, But they're both muscadine vines.

Amanda> Okay, yeah, okay.

And, Rolen, used to say, "Nothing affects the quality and quantity of muscadine as much as proper pruning," cause you really are, tell us how you should and shouldn't.

You're not supposed to just let them go wild are you?

Abigail> No, you do have to prune them back because they grow a lot.

They can grow like almost a foot in one season.

Ours are getting really unruly right now.

Normally you want to wait until they're fully dormant to go ahead and prune them, after they've lost all their leaves and then go in.

They grow kind of where they have two main vines that go off in either direction.

of the trellis that you're using.

So you want to pretty much prune most of the other vines that have grown off the two main ones back as far as you can.

<Okay> And then you'll have lots of productive fruit next season.

Amanda> Do they require a lot of fertilizer, Brandon?

Brandon> Some do, it depends on, I think there's some fertilizers you can use on muscadines to help them.

I don't know, have y'all fertilized y'all's at the office any?

Abigail> No, not in the two years we've had 'em.

Brandon> So I mean, it's kind of one things it depends on how much you want to care for them and everything.

Amanda> Okay.

Abigail> They're very hardy.

<Oh, yeah> They're easy.

Amanda> Okay.

Well, thank y'all for telling me that.

I hope after this is over, we can taste one.

We'll have to cut it 'em in half.

The deer came and really did a number on 'em, didn't they?

[laughter] Terasa?

Terasa> Brandon has a unique, special place I think he'd like to talk about.

Brandon> So, there's a kind of hidden treasure in Union County.

It's a botanical garden.

It's called the Piedmont Physic Garden.

And a lot of people say "Piedmont Physics" or "Piedmont Psychic Garden," it's not a psychic garden.

But it is a botanical garden.

It's a small, little land right near downtown Union that most people don't know about.

And it's open to the public.

Beautiful little passageway that you can go in to kinda just spend a little time.

Be peaceful.

It's based on the Chelsea Physic Garden in England which was actually originally, which is one of the oldest botanical gardens in England.

They used to grow herbs and stuff for medicinal purposes.

So this garden doesn't quite have all that, they got some, but not solely on that purpose.

But there is a beautiful garden that you can spend time in, so.

And I think you've been there.

Amanda> I've been there and the house has been given to them as well.

It's a beautiful home and I think sometimes they have some classes or speakers there.

Brandon> I'm actually doing a once a month program there, "Lunch and Learn" for them and just to kind of get a few activities going.

But they do have programs throughout the year.

Amanda> So people could find out when you're speaking?

Brandon> Oh yeah, definitely, absolutely.

<Okay> And I always post it on the Facebook page and stuff, so, but it's a wonderful garden space, even though they don't have a program.

If you want to make an appointment to go by and see it, it's a wonderful space to be in.

Amanda> When I went, they had some peonies, if I'd had on socks, it would've knocked those socks off because they were just beautiful.

Brandon> Depending on the time of year, depends on what's blooming, but every time I've been, sometimes it's so beautiful.

Amanda> And nice people up there.

<Very much so> Sometimes that when I was up there they had some people who were like taking you in.

Gosh, it was a friendly place.

Union's nice, it really is.

<Yes> Okay, well thanks for giving a plug to them.

Yeah, okay.

Goodness.

Michelle, have we got something else we can pull out.

What you got down there?

Reach, reach, reach... Stretch, stretch, stretch.

She's like me, height challenged.

Michelle> Yes ma'am.

I have a croton.

Right now, they can go outside in the shade, because it's so hot.

But then when it starts to get cold, it needs to come inside.

Amanda> Okay, when is that gonna be?

Michelle> I don't know.

[laughter] Amanda> Gosh, they're just so beautiful.

Gosh, they're pretty.

Michelle> They're pretty low maintenance.

As long as you keep watering it and making it happy with the water, you good.

You try to keep it a little moist.

Amanda> A little bit moist, unlike some of the others, okay.

And then when you bring it in, like, not in full, not in a place where it might get burned.

Michelle> No, don't put it in for full sun cause it will get burned.

Just bright indirect light.

Amanda> Do they have any pest problems particularly?

Michelle> Every once in a while they'll get mealybugs, but it's not- Amanda> Not constant?

Michelle> No it's not constant.

And it's something that typically neem oil will take care of, or a houseplant spray.

Amanda> Oh really?

Okay.

And they get bigger, I think.

Michelle> Yes, ma'am.

I brought you some big ones back here.

Amanda> Oh, heavens!

[laughter] Terasa> Oh, my.

I was thinking I might want one, but I don't have room for something that large.

[laughter] Amanda> Your bathroom, I remember where a lot of things are in the winter.

Terasa> Yeah, all my orchids.

Michelle> We have them in three sizes.

This is the middle size, that's the large size, but I do have a little four inch.

Amanda> A tiny baby?

Well, that's kind of fun.

Yeah, yeah.

You know, I think if you have small ones, you could make a little display.

<Yes> In a container for the table, which I think would be lovely.

Okay.

Okay.

Thank you so, so much.

Thank you.

Well, now let's go to feathers, fur, and 4-H.

This one is really fun.

Y'all are gonna have a good time.

♪ ♪ ♪ > We have a fun show today because we're talking about feathers, fur, and 4-H.

And, this all sounds real crazy.

We've got some, regular Clemson Extension people, and y'all are 4-H Agents?

Okay?

And you specialize or help some with rabbits and chickens?

We're not- You don't do the horses and cows.

Freddricka> No, ma'am.

Amanda> We're not having those come in.

Okay.

So, Freddricka Pressley, you brought some kids who are going to show- Freddricka> Yes.

So my kids, my 4-H'ers, they participate in our Rabbit Project, for the state of South Carolina.

And they're able to go around and participate in various shows, throughout the state.

Amanda> Okay.

And then you, Elizabeth Snipes, are going to, your kids are going to bring what?

Elizabeth> Yes, they bring in their birds, their chickens, their hens to show.

<Okay> And they participate in some of the South Carolina livestock, poultry, livestock shows.

Amanda> And so, what do the kids get out of- What are some of the things that you're trying to develop in the children as they learn all these skills?

Freddricka> Their leadership skills, I would say is the biggest thing.

So, because if you are going to- It's a very big responsibility to take care of your animal.

And that's the first thing the kids are able to do, and they have to be willing to do that.

You have to make sure you care for your rabbit or your chicken every single day.

You have to tend to it.

Amanda> Okay.

And, so do they get the rabbits when they're real small or can they be any age?

Freddricka> So they will get them when they're real small.

But they have to be a certain age in order to be ready for showmanship.

Yes ma'am.

Amanda> And then they get the chickens when they're still going... beep, beep, beep.

Elizabeth> So we actually for the South Carolina 4-H Poultry Project, there are two options.

<Yes> The Laying Flock, if you already have, if they have hens at home.

<Oh, okay> Or if they get the baby chicks from Tractor Supply, you know, they may just want two or four, not a whole flock.

Then they can go that route, for the Laying Flock.

But Pullet Chain is our other option.

So they can choose to sign up.

And we have three different breeds typically to choose from.

And they're all hens and they receive the day-old baby chicks.

We get them in the mail and we deliver.

Amanda> And they're sitting in the office going, Beep, beep, beep.

Elizabeth> They are.

They're very chirpy, very chirpy.

And they can choose between 12 baby chicks or 25 if they do the Pullet Chain.

<Okay> And then, at the end of the project, they give us a few of the birds back to go in our auction.

Amanda> And you pick the breeds because they're good laying hens.

Elizabeth> They are.

Yes, ma'am.

So last year, we did Rhode Island Reds, Barred Rocks and Golden Comets.

And those are all good egg layers.

Amanda> And are the bunnies different types?

Freddricka> They're different breeds, but my 4-H'ers, they have brought the Holland Lops.

So they'll be bringing them, with them today.

Amanda> Are they darling looking rabbits?

Freddricka> They are.

They're so cuddly and they're fluffy.

So you'll enjoy them.

Amanda> I'm excited.

I'm excited.

And so, so the kids are going to learn... how to speak publicly, but also, as you said, how to care for animals.

That's a big responsibility.

<It is> And the parents aren't supposed to do it.

They are supposed to.

Freddricka> Yes, ma'am.

These are youth-led projects.

Elizabeth> And we like to say, I know it's the same with rabbit.

That it's really not about the animal, it's about the child.

So it's, you know, it's... disguised as a rabbit and a poultry show.

But it's really about, like I said, public speaking, sharing the knowledge that they have learned in the project and then showing off the animal that they have raised.

Amanda> But y'all do go through a lot of trouble to be sure that the animals are well cared for.

Freddricka> Yes, ma'am.

So before our show, we actually have to do a on-site health inspect.

So the kids will come up, we'll just check, just to make sure we're not seeing any, like, cloudiness in their eyes, before we actually begin the show.

We do have a health check before the show.

Amanda> Well, I'm glad to hear that.

That's wonderful.

Freddricka> And share about what, the poultry... Elizabeth> Yes.

So we also, Fred and I usually do a showmanship class together.

We did it in August, actually.

So the rabbits are on-site, as well as the chickens and we do a blood test that we have to do for the birds in order to be shown, to be showed throughout the state.

Amanda> Gosh, this is- Freddricka> It has to be done within 90 days of show.

Amanda> When they go.

Freddricka> Yes ma'am.

Amanda> Yeah.

Elizabeth> And then we teach them there also just kind of like an intro to showmanship.

So if they're first time in the project then they kind of get an experience, a practice show, of what to do and what to expect.

Amanda> Okay.

Because everything we do in extension is research based.

<Yeah> So you're not just winging it.

Elizabeth> That's right.

Amanda> This is wonderful.

Elizabeth> No pun intended.

Amanda> Okay.

Well, it sounds like y'all have a lot of fun doing that.

Let's meet the kids and their animals.

<Yeah> > Hi, I am Corbin.

I'm six, and this is my chicken ZB.

♪ > My name is Macey Jo.

This is my chicken, Goldilocks she's a Golden Comet.

And I'm nine years old.

This is my rabbit, Oreo.

She's a Holland Lop and she's two years old.

♪ > Hi, my name is Kenneth.

I'm ten years old and this is my rabbit, Snickers.

♪ > Hi, my name is Benjamin.

I'm 12 years old and this is my Holland Lop bunny, Kit Kat.

♪ > Hi, my name is Lucy.

I'm 11 years old and this is my rabbit, Willow.

♪ > My name is Atticus, I am ten years old.

This is my rabbit, Zap.

♪ > My name is Elliot, my age is six.

My rabbit's name is Moose.

Amanda> So, Freddricka, I think that there are steps that we take in showing the rabbit.

And a lot of this is for the rabbit's safety, but also that the children can remember all the steps they have to take.

And their presentation is being judged as well.

Freddricka> Yes, ma'am.

So we, with the 4-H Rabbit Project- This is going to be a abbreviated version of what the youth actually do for our shows.

And so we have, brought for you six important steps that the youth will be using.

But we typically use the American Breed Rabbit Association, rubric when we are judging our 4-H'ers.

Amanda> All right, well, let's see how he does today?

Freddricka> Atticus, he's going to walk us through our first stage, and that is lifting and supporting our rabbit.

Atticus> Sometimes it's difficult to get the rabbit out.

And the most important thing when grabbing the rabbit, you have to support its legs.

♪ Freddricka> All right.

So now we have Kenneth, he's going to show us our second, step when showing the rabbit.

So he's going to walk in like he would be coming to the judge.

Amanda> Oh, okay.

Well, let's see how he does.

Freddricka> All right, Kenneth.

♪ Amanda> So what were the important things you were trying to do?

Kenneth> So you want her head under your arm.

And then you want to support her legs.

<Yeah> And then you can stroke her like this.

Amanda> Okay, to keep her calm.

♪ Well, what happens next?

Freddricka> So now we're going to look at how you pose your rabbit.

So Lucy's going to show us.

♪ Lucy> When you present to the judge, you put your rabbit into the correct position, put your hands behind your back and step back so you can show the judge that you're rabbit will not go off the mat with your help.

Amanda> What happens if it does walk off the mat?

♪ Lucy> You put it back.

Amanda> Oh, okay.

Freddricka> And so what the judge is looking at, how Lucy's actually interacting with the rabbit.

And so she won't lose points by the rabbit moving around the mat.

But as long as she's able to stay in control, that's what the judge is looking for.

Amanda> Okay, because there's only so much training you can give a rabbit.

<Yes> Well, thanks for telling us that.

Freddricka> Thank you, Lucy.

♪ Amanda> So we've got another step.

What's coming up?

Freddricka> Yes.

So we have Benjamin, he's going to show us the important parts of being able to look at the health check.

So when they are, going through the show.

So Benjamin is going to start with our health check.

Benjamin> So, she doesn't have any torn or missing portions of the ear.

And you would also, if you're rabbit has a tattoo, you would mention that, but mine does not.

♪ And she also doesn't have any ear mites or yeast infections.

Then for you to flip the rabbit over, you're going to have your middle finger and your pointer finger... kind of do a wrap around the ear.

And you're going to gently do this.

Then, you're going to have- have your thumb maybe right on top of their head.

Then you're going to grab their, bottom and then you're going to pick them up gently and slowly so they're supported and they don't feel like they're falling.

And then... put them down like this.

<Oh> And... you can show the eyes and everything that's rest, for the bottom.

Freddricka> All right.

Thank you, Benjamin.

♪ So now, Macey Jo is going to demonstrate the importance of, seeing the health of the rabbit.

So Macey Jo, take it away.

Macey Jo> In this part, I'm gonna show the legs.

So you're gonna, there's like, a little elbow bone, right in the middle of her legs.

And you push on that, and it should come straight up.

And that will show that the legs are not broken or deformed.

Amanda> So obviously she's used to doing this.

And y'all have a good relationship.

Good.

Macey Jo> And then, you'll put it back down and then you'll count the toenails and toes.

Amanda> Come on.

Macey Jo> And there should be five on each foot in the front.

And then you'll do the same with... this leg- Amanda> So they can't really see the toes and toenails.

But you're just... this is one of the steps you have to do.

<Yeah> Alrighty.

Freddricka> Oh, yeah, the judge is right there on- <Oh> So, with our competition, our judge is sitting right- So the judge would be on the opposite side of the table.

Amanda> Oh, so they can- Freddricka> And they're look- Amanda> Whoa!

Okay.

Freddricka> Yes.

Macey Jo> I'm not going to show the stomach, but you'll show the stomach.

<Yes> And then you'll go to the back feet.

So you'll do the same thing.

Push on that elbow and then, you should have four toes and toenails.

Amanda> So five on the front and four on the back.

Macey Jo> Yeah.

<Golly> And then you'll do the same with the other foot.

And then you'll, look on her hocks.

Sometimes they'll have sores from standing on water too much in the cages.

Amanda> So health is very important.

And that shows how well you've taken care of your rabbit too.

She looks like she's a very loved rabbit.

Freddricka> Thank you, Macey Jo.

Macey Jo> You're welcome.

Amanda> Well, what are we going to see now?

Freddricka> So now we're going to see our knowledge section.

So for every age group there's a different requirement.

And so Elliot is one of our Cloverbuds.

Do we feed Moose water?

Do we feed Moose candy?

Do we feed Moose pellets?

And also hay, right?

Good.

So that's what we look for when we are asking basic knowledge.

Making sure that they're getting the proper diet.

And by the youth agreeing or answering that question, we know that they're taking care of, and not mom or dad.

Amanda> Ah.

Well, now we're going to learn about how to show the chickens.

Elizabeth> Yes.

And today we have two of our Pee Dee Poultry participants.

We've got Macey Jo Powell and Corbin Powell.

And Macey is going to show us how to get them out of the cage.

Amanda> So, that's one of the things that they actually are judged on?

Elizabeth> They are.

How they get them out of the cage.

Handling their birds.

<Okay> Perfect.

Amanda> That looked good to me.

It's not flying around the studio yet.

Elizabeth> Perfect.

Her brother's going to chicken... while we grab his bird.

Good job.

And we have two different breeds, here.

This is the Golden Comet and Macey Jo got this as a baby.

A day old baby chick, two years ago.

And Corbin got his Barred Rock this past spring.

<Wow> Yeah, so they're full grown.

[chickens clucking] Amanda> They're glad to get out of the cage, aren't they.

Elizabeth> Glad to get out of the cage.

Yeah, so Macey Jo if you'll just explain to us- [wings frantically flapping] Corbin> Oh, no.

Got, ya.

[laughter] Amanda> Oh, goodness.

This is, not what usually happens.

Elizabeth> This is not what usually happens.

So we're gonna let Macey Jo explain like, what she would do, go from here.

<Okay> Macey Jo> So, after you get her out of the cage, you're just gonna sort of pet her, and then you're gonna hold her out like this.

<Oh> And, tilt her head up and then turn it.

Amanda> So they're looking at the chickens conformation and all that?

<Yes> Okay.

Macey Jo> And then, you're going to put her back to rest and just put her one more time.

And then you're going to spread her wings out.

Amanda> Oh, gosh, they have beautiful wings, don't they?

Look at that.

Macey Jo> And then, you're going to turn her- Amanda> Try to.

Macey Jo> Like this.

Then you're going to show the other wing.

[clucking and screeching] Corbin> She's getting me.

Macey Jo> Then, you're going to turn her sort of like this, where her head is facing you.

<Yes> And you're going to show her undertone.

Amanda> Whoa!

Elizabeth> Kind of showing the health of the bird to the judge.

Amanda> Is that what- They look healthy.

Macey Jo> And then you're going to show the width of the body.

So you're gonna put her back to rest.

Amanda> The width of the body?

Macey Jo> And you're going to stick your fingers under her feather, and then you're gonna show how big, the width of the body is.

And then you're going to turn her like this, put her head down.

<Whoa!> And flip her over.

[laughter] Amanda> I don't think this is their favorite part.

Macey Jo> And then you're gonna show the breastbone.

So you're gonna put your fingers up, and then you're gonna flip her back over and show her vent, like that.

<Okay> And then you're gonna show where her pubic bones and her, breastbone meet.

So you're gonna put how many fingers you can fit in that, and I can fit four.

[soft clucking] And then you're going to show how many fingers you can fit between the pubic bones.

So you're gonna feel the two short bones.

And then I can fit two in mine.

<Gracious> And then you're gonna put her back to rest, turn her around again.

And then you're gonna show the feet.

Amanda> Do you have to trim their nails or anything, sometimes?

<Mhm> Okay.

Macey Jo> And then, you're gonna turn her the other way and show her legs.

[chickens clucking] Elizabeth> And they have to present in this order at the show.

Amanda> Oh... that's a lot.

Elizabeth> Yeah.

It's a lot to remember.

Macey Jo> The judge will say "You should go to the center of the ring."

And then, she might walk around a couple times and then, once she says, "You may pose your bird."

You're going to, put her down on the table and if her feet cross, You have to pick her back up and pose her again.

Amanda> Mercy.

Macey Jo> And then, you sort of fluff her.

Amanda> Yeah.

So is she gonna walk across the table?

Macey Jo> You'll put your hands behind your back and just wait, and then she'll say, "You may walk your bird."

And you just rotate the stick.

My chicken doesn't like to walk.

Elizabeth> And the stick kind of nudges them in the direction.

And the big thing that the judge is looking at again, we said it's less about the bird and more about the child, you know, and sharing their knowledge, showing off the health of their bird.

But, quickly, you know, you can tell which kids have- You can tell Macey Jo and Corbin have handled their birds.

They're not trying to fly off the table.

They're very tame, you know, so all of that goes into it.

Macey Jo> And then, she'll tell you, "to pose your bird again" and... you'll just pose her again and step back.

<Okay> Elizabeth> And while the judge is also asking you questions, right?

About how you care for it?

Do you, can you share a few of those questions that maybe Doctor Hall asked you last year?

Macey Jo> Like, what type of breed your chicken is?

What color eggs does your chicken lay?

What type of comb it has?

And then... she'll tell you, you can put it back in the cage.

[wings flapping] Elizabeth> She wants to stay on the air.

Macey Jo> And, you'll open your cage up, and then you'll put it back in head first.

Corbin> And you take it out head first.

Amanda> So you get judged on, how you... take it in and out?

Elizabeth> Yes.

Amanda> My goodness.

Just because you want to have enough control over the chicken that it goes in correctly.

Elizabeth> And they say too, when you bring it out head first, you're not worried about damaging the wings.

If you bring it out backwards and their flapping.

Amanda> Oh, that makes sense.

Elizabeth> You could damage their wings.

Amanda> Chicken showing.

That's fun.

Thanks so much for telling us all that.

♪ Carmen Ketron is a Horticulture Agent.

And today, you're here because you have more interests than just plants.

> Yes.

Every year at the Eastern Carolina Agriculture Fair in Florence, there is an amazing group of 4-H'ers who go and do their showmanship, but also specific to the ECA Fair our costume contest.

And I've gotten to watch it for the last four years, and I absolutely love it.

Our first contestant, we've got Lucy.

Lucy, can you tell us a little bit about your bunny and who you've got?

Lucy> This is Willow.

She's a Holland Lop, and, she's, will be about two years in April.

Carmen> Excellent.

Can you tell us what Willow's dressed as?

Lucy> She's dressed as a bumblebee.

Carmen> Ah, I love it.

Does she like to get dressed up?

Lucy> She's okay with it.

Amanda> She sure looks precious.

If she could look in the mirror and see how darling she looks, I guess she'd want to change costumes all the time.

That's fun.

So, has she warn this before at a costume... in a contest.

Lucy> Yes ma'am.

Amanda> Yeah.

Well, she looks like a wonderful bunny rabbit.

I know you have fun.

Carmen> Excellent.

And now we have Benjamin.

Benjamin, who is this?

Benjamin> Kit Kat.

Carmen> Kit Kat.

What's Kit Kat dressed as?

Benjamin> A chicken.

Carmen> Oh, that is precious.

Look at that.

Amanda> Isn't that something?

Let me see the little feet.

This is just precious.

Oh, my gracious goodness.

So did somebody make this for you?

Benjamin> No, we just bought this from the store.

Amanda> Come on.

Boy, they sure have an imagination when they come up to making costumes.

Was this made for a rabbit, you think?

Benjamin> No.

It was made for dogs.

[laughter] We sure have the animal kingdom, well represented today don't we?

Carmen> And Kit Kat does so well.

It's got a hat and a body and the feet.

Amanda> That is too much fun.

Carmen> Great job, Kit Kat.

♪ All right, and now we have Elliot with us.

Elliot, what's your bunny's name?

Elliot> Moose.

Carmen> And what is he dressed as?

Elliot> A moose.

Carmen> That's clever.

Amanda> I thought it was a reindeer.

I was looking for a red nose.

[laughter] Carmen> And I love his antlers.

Are those handmade?

Elliot> Yes.

Carmen> Who made those?

Elliot> My mom-mom.

Carmen> Oh, that's wonderful.

That's a one of a kind outfit right there.

I love it.

And... is a tie underneath of Moose's little chin.

Is that one what that is, or is it a leash?

Elliot> It's something that ties it to its head.

Carmen> Very nice.

Good job.

♪ All right, and here we've got Atticus.

Atticus, who do you have here?

Atticus> Zap.

Carmen> Zap.

Okay, what is this costume?

Atticus> Banana.

Carmen> A banana.

Amanda> A banana.

[laughter] Carmen> That is so cute.

And is this handmade as well?

Atticus> Yeah.

Carmen> Who made this one for you?

Atticus> My mom-mom.

Carmen> Oh, wonderful.

Amanda> Boy, you have a talented family.

This is so cool, a banana.

Gosh, what an imagination.

Carmen> I love it.

Great job.

♪ Macey Jo> So, this is my rabbit Oreo.

For her costume, we're doing Heihei, in Moana.

It's like a crazy chicken, I guess.

He's really bad.

So, that's her.

Carmen> And Oreo is a lot more tame than Heihei was in that movie, doing wonderful.

How many costumes do you have for Oreo?

Macey Jo> I have around three.

Carmen> Oh, excellent.

Amanda> Ah!

Macey Jo> I have a whole collection.

Amanda> And this is, these aren't made for rabbits?

Macey Jo> Hmh.

Amanda> Okay?

These are?

Macey Jo> For dogs.

Amanda> Okay, well, she's very nice about being dressed in a dog costume.

Macey Jo> Yeah.

Amanda> She's a good rabbit.

She really is.

♪ Carmen> All right, here we have Kenneth.

Kenneth, who do we have?

Kenneth> Snickers.

Carmen> Snickers.

And what is Snickers dressed as?

Kenneth> A dragon.

Carmen> Oh, my goodness.

Amanda> Gosh, that's fun.

I hope he doesn't fly away.

[laughter] Carmen> Was that hard to get him in that costume?

Kenneth> Yeah.

Carmen> Yeah.

You did an excellent job.

And he seems to be cool with it now.

Amanda> Oh, that's fun.

Carmen> Oh, yeah, look at him.

This is so great.

And how old is Snickers?

Kenneth> Snickers is about three months old.

Amanda> Oh, this is a young little rabbit.

Carmen> He's a baby.

Amanda> Okay.

Carmen> Well, he's doing great for three months old.

Good job.

Amanda> Carmen, this has been such fun.

Thank you, so very much for telling us about this and bringing these great kids.

Carmen> Yes, the costumes, the parents, everybody working so hard.

It's wonderful.

Amanda> And these patient little rabbits.

Ah!

♪ Freddricka and Elizabeth, this was a wonderful day for us, today.

I hope the kids had a good time.

Elizabeth> Yes, ma'am.

Thank you so much for having us all out.

I think they really enjoyed it and showing off their skills.

And this helps them prepare for the fair season.

Amanda> And there's a lot that goes on in 4-H.

What's the best way to find out about all the other activities?

Freddricka> Yeah.

So you can visit our website to find out about all of our 4-H programs.

And importantly, you can visit our Meet the Teams Page to find out your local 4-H agent.

Amanda> Alrighty.

Well... let's come up with something fun again and y'all come back and see us, please, please, please.

Elizabeth> We'd love to.

Freddricka> Thank you.

Amanda> I want to thank ETV Carolinas for letting us be up here in Rock Hill.

What a great studio.

Abigail, thank you.

Brandon, thank you.

Thanks for coming.

And thanks to your nursery.

This is such a treat and we hope you all join us next week.

Night night.

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