[piano intro] - Watch your feet.

[both laughing] - Flying bass.

Oh, man.

- Hey, I like this spot.

- Oh, he's all under my feet now.

I can't get him out.

- I'm gonna, just gonna go for a little circle.

Wherever you wanna go, buddy.

- Now you're giving me a ride.

- Yeah all right.

- All right.

- You got a pretty good mouthful of it too, didn't you?

- Yeah.

I'll tell you man.

- Easy.

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Joe, here's my question for you.

What does a major league baseball player do when he has to take a break?

- He goes fishing, and we're gonna do that today with a good friend of ours, Cliff Edwards, out of Louisburg.

And Paul Shuey who is a professional pitcher for the LA Dodgers.

They go fishing and just have a load of fun.

- [John] Now, gear time.

We'll talk about just how simple the gear was for this particular day.

- That's right they actually used float tubes and went out in a pond that Cliff manages.

He has a fisheries management company, Premier Ponds.

And he's been with us several times on the show and they just decided to go fishing one day using float tubes and targeting large mouth bass.

- Now Donna's in the kitchen.

She's got wild turkey, corn, and she's also going to add to this some sausage.

- [Joe] Yeah, it's a really neat turkey recipe whether you hunt wild turkeys or prepare the turkey for Thanksgiving.

It's a really tasty recipe.

- We got a lot going on.

Let's get right to it.

Stick around there's a lot coming your way today on the "Carolina Outdoor Journal".

- Well, Paul it's early morning.

It's around 7:00, mid-July.

We've had 95 degrees forecast for today.

So it's a good thing that we are here early 'cause I think it's gonna burn off pretty quick and hopefully we can get the fish we want to get caught caught and be in air conditioned by 10.

[Paul laughing] So, we'll have a good morning I think.

We both on float tubes today.

You on the boat and I'm on the tube.

It's two different versions of it.

We've got all kinds of things we're gonna throw at 'em.

This allows us to get into a lot of places.

I'm looking forward to getting out there and trying it.

- Yeah, it sounds good.

Looking forward to it too.

I just wanna make sure you don't get any extra water in your waders right now.

- No, no, I hope not.

[Paul laughing] Hope not.

I've tested 'em pretty good and I think they're okay.

And we are ready to go anytime you are.

- Okay.

What are we gonna use for baits?

- I think we're basically gonna use the something like the speed traps or rattle traps to start with and then we'll just go from that.

That's been really good bait to use.

- Okay what size are the fish?

- Anywhere from a pound and a half up to about eight is what I've caught in the last probably two weeks.

- All right.

You take all the one and a halfs and I'm all set.

- All right, sounds good.

- All right, let's get on it.

- All right.

- I wanna watch you get in first.

- Yeah you mean fall in first?

[laughing] - I'm just- - [Paul] Yeah.

- He's coming toward me.

Ooh I tell you man.

He's healthy.

- [Paul] I guess we'll just go wherever you want to go.

[laughing] You know?

- This fish is nice.

It's about to take this tube and me with it.

- Why don't you let him jump?

I wanna see what he looks like.

- I don't know if he's gonna jump, but he's fighting like crazy.

He's serious I think I made him mad.

- Did ya?

- Yeah.

He's gonna wrap around my feet and dunk me.

Oh yeah.

- That's a nice fish there.

- Yeah, he's hooked everywhere he can be hooked.

- You got a face full.

- I mean a face full.

I don't wanna reach him since he's like that.

Uh huh what'd you think?

He bit something that bit back, didn't you?

[Paul laughing] Ah ha.

Yes.

- [Paul] He looks a little bit irritated with you.

- I think he is.

That's what we after.

Look how healthy he is.

See this look at his back.

- Now are there more of them or is that the only one?

- Oh yeah, there's a bunch more.

- Okay.

- And larger.

- Watch your feet.

[laughing] - Flying bass.

Oh man.

- Hey, I like this spot.

- Oh he's all under my feet now.

I can't get him out.

- I'm gonna just gonna go for a little circle wherever you wanna go, buddy.

- Now you're giving me a ride.

- Yeah all right.

- All right.

- You got a pretty good mouthful of it too, didn't you?

- Yeah I'll tell you man.

- Easy.

See, I was trying to hurt you before but now I'm trying to help you.

- Yeah, that's right.

Man, they get 'em, don't they?

- Yeah.

- Look, how healthy these fish are.

- This fish bit right under my feet I love that.

- Yours bit under your feet.

And mine, I cast out and had a bait nest.

So I'm sitting there messing with a bait nest.

He jumps out the water with it.

[laughing] That's real technical fishing in there.

- Yeah, that's technical.

[both laughing] Now this might be fishing for dummies.

See 'em start breaking there.

- Yeah.

- Okay.

Beautiful, thick, healthy.

Enjoyed it.

- All right that'll work.

- That'll work.

- I'm gonna try it again.

- Yep.

- Whoa.

- Let's see I saw one.

- I'm gonna give you a push.

- Move that back.

Yeah, do that.

- [Cliff] Paul, this is an underwater node that we on top of and it covers about three acres and this pond's about 16 and it was designed this way.

It had some rock in it.

And I thought, instead of taking the rock out, we'll leave the structure here and it's just a great fisheries nursery for first place and then the fish feed around it.

So it's a double good thing for everything doing on in this pond.

Not many people think about building and designing a pond but that's what it takes to really have a nice pond.

- I just had a bite right there.

- The thing is like looking at it, you'd think that you're 20 foot of water out here.

I mean we're in the middle of the lake, you know?

You would think it'd be a great spot to fish but at the same time, I guess when you design it.

- Yep.

- You can make anything happen, huh?

- Yep and it's always fun fishing it.

- So you're catching fish while I'm messing with a bait nest again, huh?

- Well, as long as one of us is busy.

- You're happy.

[laughing] - They call that the 50/50 plan.

[Paul laughing] - Another nice one?

- Well, wasn't as nice as that last one.

It was set for release, but... - [Paul] I don't wanna catch that fish right there anyway.

- I feel like you must have chummed him up for me.

- Did I?

- Yeah.

- That worm got him excited.

- [Paul] I can't help.

I think they're all trying to get in the club, personally.

- That might be true.

- [Paul] You know?

- You just start you a Paul club.

- [Paul] I do I think I'll start it off.

Any second now.

[soft cheerful music] - [Cliff] Paul, I really appreciate the fact that you're getting to rehabilitate your leg while you're pulling me along.

I left my flippers and kinda hard to fish.

You'd be six miles away by now.

I'd be over there where the wind had me.

- I'm sure that wasn't planned.

Just a nice little stroll around the lake.

Go ahead but it's been fun.

- That's great.

- You catching all the fish and doing what you're doing right there.

And you know I'm getting a good workout here.

- I appreciate it.

- Once the cramps go away and maybe later we'll switch up or something.

That's not the only way we can remedy this situation.

- I hadn't thought about that.

I don't think your flippers fit my feet.

- We got something, Cliff.

I don't know what.

Is this what fishing's like?

- [Cliff] You're getting close to it, man.

- Is this, do I get to play?

[Cliff laughing] This is kinda like sitting in the bullpen all day and then finally they call your number.

Whoa, don't know what I got here.

This has got to be the biggest turtle in the lake I bet.

- [Cliff] Yeah it's probably a big hybrid maybe.

- Nah, didn't run like what you were talking about.

It's kind of circling like a tuna.

You got tuna in here?

[Cliff laughing] Oh, just a nice small one.

There was one following 'em up right under 'em.

- [Cliff] Yep they do that.

They do it quite frequently.

- Well that's all right, thank you.

I appreciate that.

- You're making me feel just a little bit better right now.

Go ahead.

What is that?

- Croaker.

- [Paul] You got a croaker?

And that's a nice fish.

So I got to fish right here.

[Cliff laughing] Right in between us.

- Right between us.

- [Paul] How about under your feet?

Is that gonna help me out?

- That'll help.

- [Paul] There we go.

I'm gonna run this.

Pick your feet up I'll tell you when.

[Cliff laughing] Thanks Cliff.

That was pretty much right about under your feet.

Ah, it came loose.

- [Cliff] Did he come loose?

- [Paul] God dog it.

Oh well.

- There'll be many more.

- You think?

- Many more.

- [Paul] Okay I'm gonna hold you to it.

- Just keep throwing the plug, slapping the water.

- That's one thing I do know that you can't catch a fish unless your hooks are wet, huh?

- [Cliff] That's right that's absolutely true.

We in a good spot over here.

This channel breaks up and these fish they'll follow your plug, I think's what they're doing.

And then when you slow it down right at the, when you get ready to pick it up.

- Oh, so you got a little trick you're doing?

- [Cliff] That's it.

- Holy cow.

- I saw him when he get run up and hit it.

- My bad.

There you go.

I'll give you a little room.

You can run a little bit before you break my rod in two.

[Cliff laughing] Yeah, he was hiding right under my flipper.

He's probably been tracking me for a while.

Yeah.

- I'll tell you what that surprise hit man.

Right on your feet.

[Paul laughing] You're just not expecting it.

- How's it going buddy?

Yeah, Cliff.

That thing was right under my flipper.

- [Cliff] Yeah.

I saw him when he came I could actually see him come up and hit you.

- [Paul] You know what?

- [Cliff] But when he got about five feet from you.

- Yeah.

- He just dived up from right behind you to go.

- You know what, this thing has got some serious teeth on it you know what I mean?

- Yeah.

- The little teeth.

Now do you buy that how they if they eat a lot of shad that the teeth are - Bigger and rougher.

- Pronounced a little bit and if they eat crawdads it's soft.

Tell you what, this guy, he chewed up my thumb a little bit.

There's nothing better than bass thumb.

[laughing] - That's the best way to get one innit?

- Yeah there you go okay.

- It's hard to tell when you really gotta big one and they come to you in this float tube.

Yeah, he's moving, you see?

And it makes a little bit of difference.

I'll tell you one thing.

Yeah he's moving me.

- Tell you what ooh.

He looks serious.

- He's serious all right.

[water splashing] - He's more than all right.

What's it feel like when they hit?

[Cliff laughing] You know?

I mean is it a good feeling?

[Cliff laughing] - Well sometime I'll show you, man.

- Yeah?

- I really don't have time to tell you right now.

[Paul laughing] All right, easy.

He's thick.

That's one thing about these fish, they're healthy this time of year.

They've had everything they need to eat.

Get up here and smile for us.

- Yeah, he's smiling all right.

He's smiling for you.

That's a nice fish.

What is that about?

- Nice.

- Six ounces, eight ounces?

- Yeah at the most.

[Paul laughing] - I'm not really bitter at all by the way.

- Look, that's Paul over there.

Go see Paul.

[Paul laughing] - Come here tell me the secrets buddy.

Why do you wanna be in the club so bad?

I don't understand the issues here.

- Well if things work right, we'll have some more issues we can talk about with these fish.

- That's two in a row, Paul.

- You know what I don't wanna say too much right now, but that whole thing about the fast and slow fastball.

- Uh huh.

- I think the slow, I think they're after the change-up today.

That seems to be what it is.

- [Cliff] You think the change-ups doing it, huh?

- Yeah, I think your fastball's a change up.

So I'm gonna start throwing change ups here and if I get going a little bit, I'm gonna start throwing some splits and see if I can't get that big dog to latch on.

- [Cliff] That's much better.

You got his brother man.

- Yeah, this is actually, see this is your small fish.

But I'm happy 'cause I'm starting to climb into your category at least - Joe, I think Paul likes to fish about as much as he likes throwing that baseball.

- He does and he told me that.

He really loves fishing.

It doesn't matter where he is in the country when he is traveling, if he has time to, he'll pack a rod with him and he'll fish just about anywhere around the country.

But he loves North Carolina.

He loves bass fishing especially and you can see it today.

- Well let's check in and find out how you can do the same type of fishing.

It's nice and easy.

Let's find out more on gear time.

[light instrumental music] ♪ - Paul when your three day all-star break gave us time to do your second passion, which is fishing.

And it's been a really good time today.

We caught fish, it was perfect weather.

We started out about 7:00, probably 10:30, 11:00 now.

But we caught a lot of fish and had a lot of good time with the float tubes.

And one thing about float tubes, it keeps you pretty close and you can talk and spend time and still enjoy the day.

You wanna start out with the plugs that you actually used for the bass you were catching.

- Okay.

I think the best one we had today, no question is this Lazer Eye, it's kind of a rattle trap with a feather tail that seemed to be dynamite.

You recommended that one.

I think you were pretty much right on cue with that.

Other ones that I used, I went with the Gambler rigged like a pumpkin seed scuppernong lizard and then a Slug-Go.

That's kind of my old standby.

I've got a baby bass Slug-Go and those seem to catch fish all over the country so.

It's been good but it's been a real good break for me.

Get away from the game a little bit and just come out and try to hit a couple spots and the day just kind of goes away and it's a lot of fun.

I appreciate you having me out.

- Well it was a good time.

I was again using the Lazer Eye, which it has a red eye and it's very predominant on the species of the fish being able to see it.

The other bait I was using was the actual lead head that's embedded into a plastic that has a flip tail.

You can pull it steady, you can drop it and pick it up.

And we caught a couple of bass on that.

The rod I was using is a Baitcaster.

About a six foot rod, seven foot rod, different ones.

Again it's kind of a high speed but they're chasing shad and the minnows it's not like they're actually chasing smaller baits.

So you're moving 'em pretty quick.

And we had a real good day.

I figured we must have caught 20 fish.

- [Paul] Yeah, yeah.

I mean you were steady Eddie most of the day and I made a little run at the end to kind of get back in contention and it was just a real good day.

We had a couple nice fish on that actually ended up getting off.

But when you're out there in the float tubes I think it's more just about getting out and it's almost like rafting down a river.

The wind blows you back and forth, you kick yourself back.

Although I thought it was a little interesting you all of a sudden not having your flippers today.

So taking you around the lake.

- Well, I promise you next time I'll pull you.

How about that?

That'll work that way.

- That sounds like a pretty good deal.

- But it was fun.

It was a lot of fun.

This pond is really as about as nice a pond as you want to visit.

It's the right size, the right type of fish.

We got all types of fish so we can actually fish for about five or six different species and just do what you want to do.

And so it's a really good place to go.

The scenery can't get much better.

- No, I appreciate you having me.

- Yeah, good having you.

- That's the way I like to do it.

Keep it simple.

- Keep it simple.

And floating tube fishing is simple, it's just as simple as you can get and it gets you in these places too.

Today was not really an example of it 'cause we were fishing in the lake, a big pond that didn't really have, the structure was under the water as they were talking about and you couldn't really see it but it allows you to get to places that you can't normally reach.

Maybe even an aluminum boat.

But real easy fishing.

Relaxing fishing.

And again, both Paul and Cliff love to fish.

- They had a good day.

Now let's catch up with Donna.

She's in the kitchen.

She's got a recipe using wild turkey.

[light instrumental music] ♪ ♪ - Hi, today we're in the kitchen doing a great turkey recipe with corn and sausage stuffing.

It would be great for wild turkey.

And let's go ahead and get started.

We first have taken eight cups of cornbread that we have dried and crumbled.

And what I did is I just had some leftover cornbread and we just crumbled that up into a pan, let that dry overnight, and then we are ready to make our stuffing.

Also we are using some pork sausage or I use some Italian sausage.

You can use venison sausage, pork sausage, or whatever you happen to have or you like.

We like some little spice and a little bit of flavoring in our stuffing.

So, and then I sauteed that with some onion and some garlic.

And we have put that into our bowl with our cornbread that we have crumbled.

And I'm just gonna toss that so that we can mix all of our ingredients really well together.

'Cause you don't wanna have a little bit of sausage over here and none over there.

You want it to be evenly dispersed.

Then we're going to add in some poultry seasoning which will help give you some of the flavors of like sage and oregano and that type of thing.

Which smell really wonderful as well.

We're going to use some fresh pepper in this recipe and some salt.

And I just put a little bit of that in there.

And then we're going to toss all this together.

Before we put in our wet ingredients, we wanna toss all of our dry ingredients together so that they are mixed well and evenly dispersed.

So, there you have it.

Then we're going to take one can of cream style corn and this is gonna be our moisture in here.

[scraping can] And it's not gonna be a real wet dressing.

Some people make stuffings that are really wet.

This one isn't gonna be like that because we're going to place this into our turkey.

And as your turkey cooks the juices will absorb into the cornbread and corn stuffing.

So it will add some moisture to it.

So when it's finished it will be nice and moist and nice and golden brown.

So we've mixed all that together and now we're ready to work with our turkey.

This turkey, I placed it in an oven bag because I think that's one of the best ways to cook for me anyway.

And everything stays together nice and tender and juicy and you're pretty much guaranteed your bird is gonna be great.

And so what we're gonna do is just add a little bit more salt to the cavity and you can add some pepper if you'd like.

[pepper grinding] We've placed it in our bag already and then we're going to stuff the the stuffing inside the cavity of the bird.

But you don't wanna stuff it too tightly so it's a loosely stuffed.

So we're just gonna place that in there.

'Cause if you do it too tightly sometimes it has a tendency not to cook all the way through and you don't wanna split your bird either.

So we're just gonna place this in.

And by using the cooking bag too you can cook all of your stuffing.

You don't have to place it in a separate dish.

So we're gonna put all the stuffing in there.

Then we're gonna seal our bag with our tie.

We're just gonna wrap our tie around.

Cut a couple holes in this, bake this at 350 degrees for about two to two and a half hours or until you insert an oven thermometer or meat thermometer and it comes out to about 190 degrees.

You wanna make sure that it's fully cooked and bring it out and let it sit for about 40, about 45 minutes just for it to rest before you begin to carve it.

And I promise you you're gonna love this it's a great recipe.

So this is what it looks like when it's finished.

You can see it's nice and golden brown and your stuffing is nice and brown and kind of crisp and crunchy but yet it's tender and soft as well.

So I hope you enjoy the turkey and corn and sausage stuffing and I look forward to seeing you here next time on "Simple Cooking" - Wild turkey corn and sausage.

Donna, that's quite a recipe.

Joe, let's go back and talk about the fishing.

Paul and Cliff both had a really good day.

- They did and it was, I think that type of fishing is real relaxing.

And this was a break in the season for Paul where he could get back and spend some time with Cliff 'cause they fish quite a bit together when he's around.

And again, that type of fishing on a float tube, is really, really relaxing and very productive as you saw.

- They had a good day.

For Joe Albea, I'm John Moore.

Thanks for joining us today on the "Carolina Outdoor Journal".

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