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EMPLOYMENT IS GOOD.

THE RATE OF INFLATION IS HIGH, AS EXPECTED, AND THE FUTURE IN THE VERY NEAR TERM FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT.

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FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS NOW WE HAVE -- WE WILL START A DISCUSSION ABOU POSITIONS AT HAND HERE IN THE CAROLINAS OF MY TO RUN IS THE PRESIDENT OF NBC, JOHN SINK AND JOINS US THAT WE HOPE YOU WILL TOO.

WE START NOW.

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>> ONE OF THE BIGGEST NUMBERS COMING UP THIS PAST FRIDAY MORNING WAS ISSUING AROUND EMPLOYMENT.

NUMBERS, INFLATION, ETC., ETC.

WELCOME YOU.

I WILL START WITH YOU.

GREENVILLE HAS HAD A PRETTY AMAZING YEAR-OVER-YEAR GROWTH BUT IT COMES TO CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND GROWTH RUN INVESTMENT, JOBS, ETC., ETC.

BU IT STANDS IN CONTRAST TO THIS IDEA OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AROUND THE LABOR SHORTAGE, THIS MISMATCH.

IS AT A CRISIS?

IS IT SUSTAINABLE FOX WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS.

>> IT IS THAT A CRISIS POINT.

THE AVAILABILITY OF SKILLED LABOR IS THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE FOR PROCESS.

[INDISCERNIBLE] WE ARE STARTING TO COMPLETE THE LANGUAGE AND THEY HAD UTILITIES AND THEY COMPETE FOR THAT.

>> SAME QUESTION.

OF THE HOME SERVICES BUSINESS, HOME INVESTMENT BUSINESS, AND CONSTRUCTION COME IN MAINTENANC AND ETC., LABOR HAS GOT TO BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES.

IS THAT?

>> IT HAS BEEN AND IT CONTINUES TO BE AND IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T ADDRESS THAT, I AGREE THAT WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF THE CRISIS.

[INDISCERNIBLE] IT IS IMPROVING DAY BY DAY.

>> I WANT TO PUSH YOU BOTH ON THIS A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE PROVOCATIVE.

MARK, AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT TH CRISIS.

IT'S ALMOST IF THE BOY THAT CRIES WOLF OR CHICKEN LITTLE SAYING THE SKY IS FALLING.

YES, IT HAS BEEN AN ISSUE BUT W HAVE BEEN SUSTAINING THIS SHORTAGE AND IT CERTAINLY GOT WORSE UNDER COVID.

I THINK THE QUESTION OF TRYING TO GET TO IS IT WILL BE A CRISI AND SOMEONE NEEDS TO ADDRESS IT.

HOW DO WE ADDRESS THAT AND WHEN WE REACH A TIPPING POINT WHERE SOME OF THOSE INVESTMENTS IN GREENVILLE COUNTY WILL LOOK ELSEWHERE BECAUSE THEY CANNOT FIND A HEADCOUNT.

>> I THINK WE HAVE ABOUT 30 SOM PEOPLE DAY AND WE MARKET THAT.

WE TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE ARE ADDING TO THE WORKFORCE AT THE SAME TIME.

WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY AGGRESSIV PROGRAMS.

OUR LOCAL SCHOOL SYSTEM.

WE JUST OPEN OUR FIRST DOWN AND HIGH SCHOOL IN GREENVILLE.

SO THIS KIND OF A WAY TO EDUCAT OUR WAY OUT OF IT BUT ALSO THAT THEY FOCUSED ON THE ATTRACTION AND CONVINCING PEOPLE.

>> IS THAT THE ANSWER?

>> A COUPLE MORE THINGS.

WE LOOK AT THIS PERSPECTIVE.

THIS IS WHAT MY COMPANY IS FOCUSED ON THERE ARE MANY MORE WOMEN IN THE INDUSTRY AND MANY MORE WOMEN OF COLOR IN THE INDUSTRY.

THE EXPANSION OF THAT, WHERE THEY PUT FOR TALENT IS VERY NECESSARY.

HOW DO WE TALKED TO THESE POTENTIAL CANDIDATES AND HOW DO WE MAKE IT NOT JUST AN HOUR OF IN THE TRADE AND HOW DID WE TREAT THE BOUNCE ONCE THEY COME IN THE SYSTEM.

THAT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

THE WORKFORCE, IT SHOULD BE -- IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT ENTERPRISES TAKE NOTE OF THAT.

THESE POTENTIAL EMPLOYEES WILL ALIGN FROM HOME.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

>> HOW DO YOU LOOSEN UP THIS A BIT OF GETTING THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE SIDELINE AND WHAT WE CALL THE LABOR PARTICIPATION BREAK THAT THE STRAPS ARE MEDICALLY.

HOW DO YOU GET THEM BACK IN.

YOU ENTICE FOLKS TO GET SERIOUS ABOUT LOOKING FOR A JOB AGAIN?

YOU HAVE A FORMULA FOR THAT?

>> I WISH I HAD A FORMULA, BUT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING FOR WHAT IT TAKES.

AND THERE'S A HAPPY WORKPLACE WORKING FOR THIS COMPANY.

PEOPLE PROBABLY UNDERSTAND.

[INDISCERNIBLE] THAT DOES NOT HELP.

THE AVERAGE AGE IS ABOUT 55 SO VERY SOON -- [INDISCERNIBLE] AND EXPLAINED TO THEM WHAT THE RESULT WOULD BE BUT ALSO THE PURPOSE BEHIND IT.

THESE TRAITS ARE MUCH MORE THAN JUST AN HOURLY JOB.

THEY DO A LOT FOR THE CUSTOMER THAT WE SERVE AND THAT HAS TO B HERE AS WE GO FOR THE MARKET.

>> YOU BOTH, NO SURPRISE THAT EDUCATION IS GOING TO SPEAK DIRECTLY AND QUALIFIED WORKERS.

AT THE SOUTH CAROLINA TECHNICAL COLLEGE, OF COURSE ON THIS PROGRAM BEFORE.

BUT THE COLLEGE SYSTEM HAD BEEN TASKED WITH THIS IDEA OF GETTIN THAT BRIDGE OF SKILLED WORKERS AND TO USE YOUR TERM, MARKHAM I THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE RUN JUST THINK IT IS UP TO THE TECHNICAL COLLEGE IN COMMUNITY COLLEGE.

SOMEBODY SAID ON THIS PROGRAM NOT LONG AGO IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET TO THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OR THE SCHOOL BOARD AND HAVE THEM UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS NEED FOR THEM TO CONNECT TO THE BUSINESSES AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS TO ABOUT THESE KIDS COMING OUT OF SCHOOL HIGH SCHOOL TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY CAN PLUG-IN.

SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE TA INTO QUICK.

>> I THINK THAT WE ARE TRYING I WE THINK ABOUT GETTING TWO KIDS AT AN EARLIER AGE TALKING ABOUT MANUFACTURING CAREERS.

BEN AND HOW MUCH MONEY I MAKE.

CERTAINLY IF YOU CLICK AT DIFFERENT KINDS OF CAREERS, THERE WILL BE DIFFERENT PATTERN BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT A MANUFACTURING CAREER, EMPHASIZE THAT AND TALK ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY OF JOBS THAT ARE VERY WELL PAYING JOBS THAT NECKING CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY T SEE, FOR EXAMPLE THE PROGRAM IN SOUTH CAROLINA, AT THE TECHNICA LEVEL.

AND RECENT THAT THAT IS THAT TH FOLKS CERTAINLY GRADUATING AT THE TWO YOUR DEGREE PROGRAM AND THEY WANT THE MORE.

THE FONT POINT TO INTEGRATE THE LEADERSHIP CONDITION AND ADDED MORE FOR THAT.

I THINK WE GET THE ARENA, WE CA TALK ABOUT MANUFACTURING THE A CAREER PATH AND BEING A GREAT -- >> HOW DO YOU GET THOSE WORKERS ARE ENOUGH.

THE HELP MIGHT NOT BE THERE SO HOW DO YOU OPEN THEM.

LIKE HERE IS ANOTHER OPTION FOR YOU VERSUS GETTING UP AND STARTING TO WORK FOR RESTAURANT.

THOSE SUCH AS THE NEED TO KEEP PEOPLE IN THE TRADE BECAUSE THA IS THE LABOR MARKET THAT IS THE MOST PROMINENT RIGHT NOW.

THERE'S ALL THIS MARKUP ABOUT EXPANDING -- PEOPLE OF COLOR.

THOSE ARE PROBABLY CRITICAL ASPECTS THAT WE SHOULD BE WORKING ON.

>> MARK, WE HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

LET'S TALK ABOUT AN ISSUE THAT WE COULD PROBABLY TAKE A LOT MORE THAN 30 SECONDS ON.

SUPPLY CHAIN.

THE CEO OF THE PORT AUTHORITY WAS ON THIS SHALL NOT LONG AGO.

BUT WHERE YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU DO AND THE CONSTITUENTS THAT YO SEE, HOW LONG DO YOU SEE THE SUPPLY CHAIN BEING AN ISSUE AND WHAT YOU THINK YOU CAN DO?

>> IT'S FUNNY THAT YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION.

IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT -- AND THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO SIGN CONTRACTS THAT INDICATE WHEN THEIR SKILLFUL BE DELIVERED.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE POTENTIAL BUYER OUR GROUP THAT IS GOING T BE THE BUILDING, THEY WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY BUT THE SKILL SET IS BECAUSE THAT IS AN EIGHT MONTH BACKLOG AND I ASKED IS THERE ANY KIND OF RELIEF IN SIGHT OF MY GOT SOME NEGATIVE ANSWERS FROM FOLKS AND THE IDEA THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR TH NEXT YEAR, PROBABLY NOT LIKELY.

I SEE IT EXPANDED AT LEAST ANOTHER 2 YEARS.

SO YOU HAVE TO BUILD THE CAPACITY AND BE ABLE TO GET THOSE BOTTOMS OUT QUICKER AND WHEN YOU ENTER THE SUPPLY CHAIN YOU TAKE ON A COUPLE.

>> ARE 50 YEARS AGO OUR GUEST ORGANIZATION STARTED WITH WHAT WAS CALLED THE MAN PART DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.

NOW 50 PLUS YEARS LATER, NDC IS A REAL FORCE AND IN GENERAL ADVANCING ISSUES AT THE FOREFRONT.

WE WELCOME THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND PRESIDENT, PLEASE WELCOME JOHN SIMPKINS.

WELCOME BACK TO THE CAROLINAS.

>> IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU AND YOUR GUESTS.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

SO, JOHN, LET'S START OFF AT TH EASY ONE.

NDC SIX AT THE INTERSECTION BETWEEN IDENTIFYING AND LEADING AROUND THINGS LIKE ECONOMIC MOBILITY, BUT ALSO DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION.

YOU TAKE THOSE NOT SO INSIGNIFICANT ISSUES, BRING THOSE TOGETHER, WHERE DO YOU LEAVE NOW.

-NOT BECAUSE HE WE ARE ALMOST POST COVID I MANAGED BOTH OF THESE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON THEIR OWN PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL.

>> SURE.

I THINK WE'VE FEET FROM WHERE WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN, WHICH IS BEING AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS FIRST AND FOREMOST AN ANTI- POVERTY ORGANIZATION.

AND WE ARE IN ANTIPOVERTY ORGANIZATION BEGINNING IN 1967 WITH JERRY SANFORD'S VISION INTEGRATING THE WORKFORCE IN NORTH CAROLINA AND PROMOTING THIS SHIFT FROM AN AGRARIAN TO AN INDUSTRIAL ECONOMY.

AND YOU LOOK AT THOSE WHO ARE LEASE LEAST ADVANTAGE AND DISADVANTAGE AND THE HISTORY IN THE SOUTH ARE THOSE THAT TENDED TO BE FOR QUITE GENERAL AREAS AND AFRICAN-AMERICAN THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

SO THAT IS ALWAYS BEEN OUR FOCUS .

AND AS WE INCORPORATE ELEMENTS OF DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION INTO THE WORK THAT WE DO, RACIAL EQUITY IS A PIECE OF THAT, A LARGE PIECE OF THAT GENDER EQUITY IS ALSO A LARGE PIECE OF THAT.

ALL OF THIS IS REALLY INTENDED TO INTERVENE AT THE AREAS OF GREATEST NEED.

[INDISCERNIBLE] WE THINK AS THE CAROLINAS GO, S GOES THE SOUTH.

AND IF WE ARE TO REALLY SHIFT THE ECONOMIC PICTURE AND THE FORECAST FOR THE TWO STATES, NORTH AND SOUTH CAROLINA, THEN WE PROBABLY NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN ISSUES THAT AFFECT COLOR AND WOMEN.

SPITTING IN THE WORKFORCE.

>> IT'S GOING TO BE A FAIRLY GENERAL QUESTION AND IT ALMOST MINIMIZES THE ISSUE ARE BROWNED DEI.

IT CLEARLY HAS TAKEN THE FLOOR NOW.

NOT JUST JUST SINCE THE TRAGIC INCIDENT SINCE GEORGE FLOYD, BU IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS NOT BONKERS JUST A BOX TO CHECK OR EIGHT TH PATIENT IN A BUSINESS BUT IT'S RATHER BECOME MORE ACROSS ORGANIZATIONS, SMALL AND LARGE.

SO THAT THE WIND AT YOUR BACK WITH DEI, WHERE DO YOU HOPE TO TAKE IT WHAT YOU HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THAT, WILL BIT MORE DETAIL.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO DO IS MAKE THE CASE THAT THERE IS A BUSINESS CASE TO BE MADE FOR EMBRACING DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION.

IF WE THINK ABOUT THE TWO THAT COST OF HEALTHCARE DISPARITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY REACHES INTO THE BILLIONS, $230 BILLION WOUL BE INFUSED INTO OUR ECONOMY.

[INDISCERNIBLE] ONE STUDY WOULD SAY THAT INCREASE OVERTLY OVER $20 AND THE ECONOMY OVER YEARS.

IT'S REAL ECONOMIC IMPACT ON TH ECONOMY AND THEN DRAWING ON THE DATA OF RESEARCHERS WHO TALK ABOUT THE LOST EINSTEIN SPIRIT WHAT WE NOW IS THAT TALENT IS NOT DISTRIBUTED EQUALLY THROUGHOUT THE POPULATION.

IT IS TO START WITH THAT YOU COMMIT YOUR POPULATION.

OPPORTUNITY IS NOT.

SO IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US TO REACH OUT AND DEVELOP THE TALEN AS IT EXIST THROUGHOUT THE POPULATION.

WILL BENEFIT US ALL AND IT WILL BENEFIT BUSINESS AND SOCIETY.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS WHER WE OFTEN WANT TO THINK ABOUT BUSINESS AND HUMANITIES AS BEIN IN SEPARATE BOXES.

PARTLY FROM MY TIME WITH THE INSTITUTE BUT ALSO FROM MY WORL VIEW.

I SEE THEM AS BEING EXTREMELY RELATED AND A BUSINESS APPROACH THAT HAS A HUMAN FOCUS THAT HASN'T EQUITY FOCUS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE MORE PRECISE OVER THE LONG-TERM.

IF YOU LIKE INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE BECOME MORE DIVERSE, THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT SURVIVE, THE ONES THAT DON'T THAT JUST, THAT DON'T REACT TO THE REALITIES AROUND THE DEMOGRAPHICALLY AND ECONOMICALLY ARE THE ONES THAT BECOME.

>> ACTUALLY FALL BEHIND.

>> YOU'VE GOT GREAT INVOLVEMENT WITH THE READY INSTITUTE.

TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THOSE PROGRAMS.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT THOS BECAUSE THOSE ARE TWO ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART.

AND THEY HELPED TO FORM MY OWN VIEW OF LEADERSHIP AND PLAY A I COME TO IDENTIFY FIGHT AT EQUIT CENTERED LEADERSHIP.

DICK RILEY IS A LONGTIME MENTOR OF MINE AND A GREAT POLITICAL HERO.

DAVID ROEDER CALLED HIM ONE OF THE MOST DECENT MEN IN WASHINGTON, WHICH IS HIGH PRAIS INDEED, HAVING LIVED IN WASHINGTON.

BUT I APPRECIATE ABOUT SECRETAR PROBABLY THE MOST IS HIS HUMILITY AND HIS ABILITY TO LISTEN TO A VARIETY OF DIFFEREN VIEWPOINTS AND INCORPORATE THOS INTO AN APPROACH THAT IS GOING TO BENEFIT EVERYONE.

HE DOESN'T BEAT HIS CHEST ABOUT IT.

HE JUST GETS THE JOB DONE.

THE RILEY INSTITUTE HAS HAVE BEEN AN EXTENSION OF THAT AND I IS WHAT PULLED IT BACK TO SOUTH CAROLINA ORIGINALLY COME BACK T MY HOME STATE AND TEACH SO THE WORK THAT THEY ARE DOING AS PAR OF THE DIVERSITY LEADERSHIP INITIATIVE CONTINUES TO BE IMPORTANT ACROSS THE STATE AND BY THE SAME TOKEN I SEE FROM TH LIBERTY FELLOWSHIP AS SELECT GE TO SOUTH CAROLINA.

IT IS A GIFT BECAUSE IT HAS BROUGHT TOGETHER A GROUP OF LEADERS WHO MIGHT NOT OTHERWISE KNOW EACH OTHER, DEVELOPED A GROUP DEGREE OF TRUST.

THAT TRUST AND A BUS ITSELF IN SOME REALLY IMPORTANT MOMENTS, ESPECIALLY FROWNED THE REMOVAL OF THE CONFEDERATE FLAG FROM TH GROUNDS OF THE STATE HOUSE AND SOUTH CAROLINA.

AND IN OTHER WAYS LARGE AND SMALL, WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY BE SHUT TO EACH OTHER ACROSS POLITICAL DIVIDES ACROSS THE GEOGRAPHICAL DIVIDES.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT COMPARTMENTALIZE SOUTH CAROLINA.

THE LIBERTY FELLOWSHIP IS DONE GREAT JOB OF MEETING SOME FABRI BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE IN WAYS THAT I THINK WILL CONTINUE TO YIELD GREAT BENEFITS FOR US.

>> THANK YOU FOR SPENDING TIME WITH US.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I BELIEV IN, SECTOR HAS ASKED -- WERE WHAT CAN I DO FOR THE ECONOMY.

YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR AND PRIVATE SECTOR .

[INDISCERNIBLE] WHAT CAN COMPANIES DO MORE FOR THE ECONOMY, FOR THE COUNTRY.

SHED SOME LIGHT -- >> ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

ONE OF THE WAYS IN WHICH WE SPOKE TO ENGAGE WITH BUSINESSES WITH EMPLOYERS AS PART OF THAT TALENT DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE AND EQUIPPING INDIVIDUALS WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE AND INTO ROLLS THAT IMPROVE, THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO KEEP THAT GENERATIONAL WEALTH OVER TIME AND WORKING WITH EMPLOYERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE SPECIFICALLY AND THEN STEPPING BACK FROM THAT TRUE TRADING FRAMEWORK AND A NETWORK THAT ALLOWS US TO MOVE PEOPLE THROUG THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO GET TO WAGE SUSTAINING JOBS.

AND EMPLOYERS ARE GREAT PARTNER IN THAT ROLE AND IT IS SOMETHIN THAT OBVIOUSLY FULFILLS THE NEEDS OF THE EMPLOYER PUT UP TH FULFILLS THE NEEDS OF THE PERSON .

WE KNOW THAT THERE IS THEY COUL BEGIN WORK AND DIGNITY AT WORK THAT ALLOWS YOU TO PROVIDE FOR YOUR FAMILY, TWO PER FIVE FOR SOME MEASURE OF SECURITY FOR YOUR FAMILY.

I'VE SEEN THESE THINGS AS INTRICATELY LINKED AND WE LOOK AT THIS AS BEING -- AS WE WORK WITH COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND TECHNICAL COLLEGES.

SYSTEMS IN BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH CAROLINA HAVE HAD HISTORIC STRENGTH AND ALSO CHALLENGES OVER THE PAST 50 YEARS, BUT WE SEE THOSE AS A REALLY USEFUL POINT OF LEVERAGE BETWEEN INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE LOOKING TO IMPROVE THEIR LOT IN LIFE AND BUSINESSES WHO ARE LOOKING FOR TALENTED WORKERS.

>> TALK ABOUT A LINK TO EDUCATION HOW TO ADVANCES TOWAR WORKERS.

SPIRIT HAS A PRETTY BIG DEVELOPMENT, PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL HISTORY.

THIS IS THAT NEW TO YOU.

OF NORTH CAROLINA THERE IS AN ISSUE GOING ON AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS.

NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE.

IT IS NOT.

WHEN YOU WATCH THIS IDEA THAT THE COURTS ARE COMPELLING NORTH CAROLINA AND HAVE NOW PUT SOME PRESSURE ON TO SAY THAT MYTH: MUST COMPLY WITH THE DECISION TO GET OUR CHILDREN EQUAL COME AND VISIT MY TRUMP A EQUAL AND FAIR ACCESS TO EDUCATION.

WHEN YOU WATCH THIS UNFOLD, WHICH COULD END UP A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS TO SOME DEGREE, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS.

WHAT YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN?

WHERE DO YOU HOPE THIS WILL GO?

>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AND SOME OF MY THOUGHTS ARE INFORMED BY MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.

I AM A PRODUCT OF PUBLIC SCHOOL AND SOUTH CAROLINA.

I'M ALSO A PRODUCT OF IT.

MAC DURING WHICH THOSE PUBLIC SCHOOLS RECEIVED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF RESOURCES THAT MADE POSSIBLE PROGRAMS AND PROGRAMMING THAT REALLY HELPED TO LAUNCH ME.

I WENT TO THE PROGRAM AT THE COLLEGE OF CHARLESTON AND SOUTH CAROLINA.

WAS PAID PUBLIC DOLLARS.

IT WAS OFFICIALLY A QUARTER MILLION INVESTMENT ON AN ANNUAL BASEMENT -- BASIS.

THAT ONE EXPERIENCE OPENED UP M EYES TO WHAT WAS POSSIBLE FOR M TO MOVE THROUGH THE REST OF THE WORLD.

THE SAME AS THREE FOR THE OTHER 2-300 STUDENTS THAT WERE WITH M AND PARTICIPATED.

THEY'VE GONE ON TO DO AMAZING THINGS AND THEY STILL ATTRIBUTE IT TO THAT INVESTMENT IN THEMSELVES.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US T BE CLEAR ABOUT INVESTING IN THE YOUNG PEOPLE OF OUR STATE AND OUR STATE NOT BEING NORTH CAROLINA AND I'M A PROPERTY OWNER HERE IN NORTH CAROLINA.

OF AND CERTAINLY THINKING ABOUT HOW THAT IS RELATED TO MY EXPERIENCE IN SOUTH CAROLINA BU FOR THAT, I WOULDN'T BE WHERE I AM TODAY.

THERE ARE THOUSANDS, IF NOT NOT TENS OR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS O KIDS OF THE GENERATIONS WHO WE WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK BACK AND SAY.

FOR THIS PEOPLE THESE THAT.

THOSE LOST EINSTEIN ARE IMMINEN IF WE CAN'T COME TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO ADEQUATELY FUND EDUCATION .

NOT TO DEPEND ON PHILANTHROPY AND NONPROFITS TO BUILD AGAIN, BUT TO INVEST IN JUST TRAINING WORKERS, BUT TRAINING PEOPLE WH ARE CRITICAL THINKERS WHO ARE ABLE TO BE PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS OF THEIR STATE AND OF THEIR COUNTRY.

>> WE'VE GOT 30 SECONDS LEFT.

WHY DO YOU THINK THE DEBATE A RUN EDUCATION, IS SOMETHING IN SOUTH CAROLINA, WHY IS IT SO ACUTE.

IF WE ALL BELIEVE THE SAME THING , WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR US TO GET THERE.

WE LITERALLY HAVE 30 SECONDS.

>> PARTLY BECAUSE WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COMMON INVESTMENT ANYMORE.

IS THAT MY KID, YOUR KID.

IS OUR KIDS.

>> JOHN, THAT IS THE LAST WHETHER THAT IS A GOOD PLACE TO END IT.

WELCOME TO NDC.

I KNOW YOU ARE IN YOUR SECOND YEAR OF LEADERSHIP.

THANKS.

EVERYONE IS THRILLED FOR YOU.

WE ARE GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK IN THE SOUTH.

>> THANK YOU, CHRIS.

>> NICE TO SEE YOU, PLEASE COME BACK.

ALWAYS NICE TO SEE YOU.

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND, GEMMA BEEN.

THEY WATCHING OUR PROGRAM.

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