>> THIS IS A PRODUCTION OF PBS CHARLOTTE.

>> THIS WEEK ON "OFF THE RECORD" , MECKLENBURG COUNTY, I'M NEW HOUSING PROTECTION.

UNION COUNTY VOTE SNOW ON MASKS IN SCHOOLS AGAIN AND ON BAXTER THEY MAY BE UNEMPLOYED TOMORROW.

THERE IS NO IN-BETWEEN THE BETWEEN WITH THE VACCINE.

THE THREE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO PULL OVER A WHITE DRIVER THAN A BLOCK TREVOR AND THEY SAY IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BIASED.

ALSO WHAT IS DRIVING THE INCREASE IN FATAL CAR CRASHES A BLOCK IN THE CITY DO ABOUT IT.

HOW ABOUT FEWER LANES ARE MORE TICKETS.

HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS ARE FIGHTING BACK AGAINST LANDLORDS BUYING UP THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND REFUGEES FROM AFGHANISTAN FACE THE SAME PROBLEM WE ALL FACE, THE HIGH STEP -- THE HYPE COSTS IN THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING.

THAT'S NEXT ON "OFF THE RECORD" ON PBS CHARLOTTE.

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THERE WERE 12 IN NORTH CAROLINA INCLUDING THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE THAT HAD THAT PASS LAWS REGARDING PROTECTING THE LGBT Q COMMUNITY AND NOW MECKLENBURG COUNTY LOOK SICK IT'S ABOUT TO BE NUMBER TWO.

YOU COVER THIS IN OUR AREA.

LET'S TALK FIRST UP ABOUT THE FACILITIES WITH WHAT THIS COUNT IS DOING.

>> YES.

IT'S SIMILAR TO THE ORDINANCE THAT THE CITY PASS THERE EARLIE AND IT APPLIES TO ALL EMPLOYERS WHICH I REMEMBER WAS PRETTY CUT FOR SHAUL WHEN THE CITY WAS DISCUSSING IT AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE PROPOSALS AFFECT COUNTY HAD CELEBRATED CELEBRATE WAS ONLY REGULATING EMPLOYERS.

BUT IN THE END BOTH HAVE DECIDE TO REGULATE EMPLOYERS OF ALL SIZES AND THAT IS PRIMARILY MUC OF THE ACT OF THE SUM FROM GROUPS.

THERE ARE FEDERAL PROTECTIONS FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE CERTAIN PLAYERS AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONINGS REASONS FOR THE INITIAL LANGUAGE.

BUT THE ORDINANCE APPLIES TO -- YOU CAN'T DISCRIMINATE AGAINST SOMEONE BASED ON SEXUAL IDENTIT AND VARIOUS FACTORS.

>> THE DIALOGUE ABOUT LARGE CAVITIES VERSUS MORE COMPANIES WAS INTERESTING.

BUT SOME OF THE COUNTY DISCUSSE INVOLVED FACT EVEN THOUGH THE PROTECTIONS ARE THERE, THEY DON'T GET ASSESS AND RECEIVE A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ON THAT LEVEL.

AND WHAT THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY IS SAYING IS THAT BY BROADENING -- INCLUDING THE ONES UNDER FEDERA LAWS, THIS IS MORE POTENTIAL VICTIMS OF DISCRIMINATION AND GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO VOICE THOSE CONFLICTS WITH HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE FEDERAL LEVEL.

>> YES.

IN ADDITION TO OFFERING THOSE PROTECTIONS, VALSARTAN GOT NATURAL HAIR AND HAIR STYLES, WHICH PROTECTS MEMBERS OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY, WHO WEAR THEIR HAIR AND A CERTAIN POINT AND MIGHT HAVE SOMEONE IN THE PAST THAT SITE THAT IS UNPROFESSIONAL .

YOU CANNOT WEAR YOUR HAIR THAT WAY.

SO I THINK THAT EXTENDING THE LGBTQ PROTECTIONS AND ALSO BROADENING THE GROUP, THE GROUP IS PROTECTED BY THIS NEW LOCAL ORDINANCE.

YOU'VE GOT A GOOD BOTH EXTENSIO OF PROTECTIONS AND WAYS TO BUIL SUPPORT FOR IT.

MAYBE THAT'S ONE REASON WHY WE HAVEN'T SEEN MUCH CONTROVERSY ASSIGNMENT ALSO LIKE THE CITY ORDINANCE, WE ALSO DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AND THE NEW MECKLENBUR ORDINANCE ABOUT BATHROOMS, WHIC WAS REALLY A HUGE FLASHPOINT IN 2016.

>> THAT LEAD INTO WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

I'M STRUCK BY HOW QUIETLY AND WITHOUT CONTROVERSY ALL OF THIS IS HAPPENING COMPARED TO 2016.

THAT WAS THE ISSUE FRONT AND CENTER FOR COUPLE OF YEARS.

THE HOLD BATHROOM ORDINANCE THING.

BUT WE HAVE THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT LIKE COVID AND ONGOING VIOLENCE AND SO FORTH.

I'M NOT AT ALL SURPRISED AT ITS NO QUINCE OFFENSE THAT EVERYBOD ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION IS A DEMOCRAT.

I THINK IT WOULD'VE BEEN ANYWAY.

I THINK IT WOULD'VE GONE PAST THE FLASHPOINT AND HAD MOVED ON TO OTHER THINGS FOR BETTER OR WORSE.

I THINK IT IS ALMOST WITHOUT A RIPPLE IN IT.

>> YOU WANT TO WRAP THIS UP?

>> IT'S JUST GOOD HOW PEOPLE CAME OUT TO VOICE -- [INDISCERNIBLE] WE HAVE PEOPLE SAYING PLEASE DO THIS, PLEASE DO THE SAME PEOPLE FROM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR DR. LIZA MEASURES LIKE THESE WILL MAKE MECKLENBURG COUNTY A BETTER PLAYS, ESPECIALLY FOR PEOPLE WITH MULTIPLE PLAYERS.

SO I GUESS THAT OUR COMMISSIONERS ARE LISTENING TO VOTERS IN LISTING TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND I GUESS THAT IS LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT HAVING THEIR VOICES HEARD BECAUSE ACTION IS BEING DONE.

>> ONE MORE VOTE.

WE WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN AT THE COUNTY COMMISSION BEFORE THIS BECOMES FORMALLY A LAW OR IN ORDER FOR THAT IS OBVIOUSLY FOR THEY ARE HEADED AND THAT WILL PUT MECKLENBURG ON THE SAME PAGE , OBVIOUSLY SENDING A MESSAGE TO EVERYBODY OUT THERE THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS OPEN TO THOSE SORTS OF PROTECTIONS AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL ARE TREATED FAIRLY.

THAT IS A GOOD THING, ESPECIALL WITHOUT THE CONTROVERSY COUNTRY FOR CSU SET FROM 2016.

ANOTHER VOTE PROBABLY MARKUP FO SHAUL AND NOT UNEXPECTED WHERE THE SCHOOL BOARD AGAIN, BECAUSE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO EVERY MONT FROM ALSO WILL PORTS ARE PART T POSSIBLY VOTE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

UNIT COUNTY VOTED AGAINST -- TO KEEP THERE ARE NO MASK OR MASK OPTIONAL POLICY ONE OF THE FEW SCHOOL SYSTEMS IN THE STATE STILL DOING THAT.

THIS IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTIME SOON DESPITE ALL THE OTHER COUNTIES IN THE AREA PRETTY MUCH STICKING WITH THE MASKS WHERE THEY HAVE HAD SUCCESS.

>> IT IS SO INTERESTING OF THE COMMISSIONERS OR LISTENING TO PEOPLE IN THEM WE GO TO UNION COUNTY WHERE PARENTS SAID THEY ARE NOT LISTENING TO US AGAIN.

THIS WAS A VOTE 7-2 TO MAKE SUR THAT WE KEEP THE MASK MEANT THA OPTIONAL UP TO PARENTS AND PEOPLE WANT MASKS BECAUSE THEY THINK THAT THE TWO AND THEN THERE WAS PUSHED BACK BECAUSE O I DID FEEL LIKE THE COVID CASES WERE GOING DOWN AND SO FAR ABOU 200 POSITIVE CASES, ABOUT 1600 PEOPLE ARE STILL QUARANTINED AN THE ACTION OF MASK -- BECAUSE OF THE OPTION YOU HAVE TO QUARANTINE AND I GUESS PARENTS ARE STILL OUT THERE AND OUTRAGED AND THEY'RE NOT GETTIN UP TO CHANGE.org, THERE'S A PETITION NOW TO HAVE THOSE BOAR MEMBERS TO PRESIDE, MORE THAN FIVE DOZEN PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED THAT PETITION AND THEY ARE SAYING THAT BOARD MEMBERS, THAT THEY ARE PUTTING THEIR PERSONAL BELIEFS BEFORE THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF STUDENTS.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING HOW THIS WILL DRAW OUT AND IF THINGS WILL CHANGE B NEXT MONTH WHERE WE STILL HAVE 7-2 VOTE BUT IS GOING TO BE INTERESTING.

I DON'T THINK THAT THOSE TOWNS ARE GOING TO LET UP ANYTIME SOON .

THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO LET UP UNTIL THEY GO BACK TO TH BALLOT BOX.

>> I'M NOT SURE PETITION FOR GE ANYBODY TO RESIGN IN UNION COUNTY.

COVID IS OBVIOUSLY PUT A STRONGER FOCUS AND YET GET A STORY THIS WEEK ABOUT WHAT THAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE NOT JUST ACADEMICALLY BUT IN OTHER AREAS TOO.

>> BIGGEST SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL WELL-BEING OF THE STUDENT'S OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE AND THEY BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE TO ADDRES THE SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL LEARNING AND YOU'VE GOT TO DO I AT THE SAME TIME THAT YOU TACKL ACHIEVEMENT GAP BECAUSE SO MANY BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO LISTEN STRUGGLES WHEN IT COMES TO READING AND WRITING AND ARITHMETIC.

SO THEY ARE GOING TO BLOCK OUT TIME.

THIS IS SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL LEARNING TIME WHERE THEIR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS WILL BE UP THE CHECK AND FIVE DAYS A WEEK AND THERE SHOULD BE LIKE 15 -30 MINUTES, ENTRY -- ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS OF HER TALKING ABOUT THREE TIMES A WEE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL POLICE TWICE A WEEK, THOUGH STUDENTS WANT TO CHECK IN WITH COUNSELORS AND PSYCHOLOGISTS TO SEE EXACTLY HO THEY ARE DOING AND TO ADDRESS SOME COPING SKILLS THAT THEY BELIEVE -- AND THAT AS WE JUST WHAT THE -- WITH THE TIME BE MORE VALUABLE ABOUT THE EXTRA EXTRA TIME AND READ TO HELP BOOST THOSE READIN TEST SCORES THE RESPONSES IS THAT THEY WILL NOT BE APPLICABL ON AND COPE SOCIALLY, THEN THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COMPREHEND THE READING CLASS SPIRITS OF TH HAVE A WHOLE CURRICULUM SPELLED OUT AND ONE OTHER THING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT ASSESSMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO ASSIST EACH STUDENT AND ASK THE HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU.

YOU FEEL THAT YOU HAVE SOMEBODY AFTERSCHOOL THAT YOU CAN TALK T SPIRITS OF THEY'RE GOING TO TRAIN STAFF AT THE SCHOOL LEVEL IN ORDER TO HELP STUDENTS GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B BUT ALS A SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL LEARNING.

IT IS A TOUGH THING TO BE AN ADMINISTRATOR, TEACHER, AND STUDENT.

THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE A HOLISTIC APPROACH AND A LOT OF THIS EXACERBATED BY THE POTENTIAL LOCKDOWNS LAST YEAR AND REMOTE LEARNING AT ALL OF THAT.

A LOT OF CATCHING UP TO DO IT.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY AND I ADMIRE THEM FOR TAKING A HOLISTIC APPROACH TO IT , BUT IF WE SET UP HERE AND THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN RIGH AWAY, IT IS NOT.

LET ME JUST THROUGHOUT THEIR TO AN ADJUNCT PERHAPS AND THAT IS THAT THIS IS THEIR SOCIALIZATION .

THAT IS NOT 8 SO FAR ON THE SCHOOL YEAR AND IT IS SO TOUGH TO TRY TO EDUCATE KIDS REALLY YOUNG ADULTS AND GOT ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES GOING ON.

GOT BLESS THEM FOR WRESTLING WITH THAT, BUT IT IS TOUGH.

>> IT MAKES YOU WONDER IF THAT SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL CURRICULUM MIGHT ALSO ULTIMATELY HELP SOLV SOME OF THE SOCIAL PROBLEMS AND GO BEYOND ACADEMICS.

GOT A PROTEST THIS WEEK AT OLYMPIC HIGH SCHOOL.

I KNOW THAT YOU COVERED THAT AS WELL.

I WANT TO TOUCH WILL QUICK ABOU WHAT IS HAPPENING AT OLYMPIC AN YELP THE OUTCOME OF THE MAP.

>> REAL QUICK, THAT THE CONTROVERSY OVER STUDENT FOOTBALL PLAYER THAT WAS ALLOWE TO PLAY WITH AN ELECTRIC MONITOR .

YET BEEN CHARGED WITH A OF ANOTHER STUDENT.

NOW IT IS THE UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY AND SO FORTH, BUT THE SCHOOL SYSTEM CAME BACK AND SAI WE DON'T THINK HE SHOULD'VE BEE ALLOWED TO PLAYING IN THE MEANTIME STUDENTS PROTESTED AMONG THEM SOME VOLLEYBALL PLAYERS AND THE PROTESTS WERE HEATED AND THEY WERE ALLOWED.

THEY DID CHARGE ONE STUDENT, BU ON MONDAY THAT THE STUDENTS WHO WENT BACK TO CLASS AMONG THE VOLLEYBALL PLAYERS WENT TO CLAS AND WENT TO THE VOLLEYBALL PRACTICE AND THE COACH SAID YOU WERE INVOLVED IN THE PROTESTS ARE GOING TO BE BENCHED FOR AT LEAST ONE GAME.

AND THAT DID NOT SIT WELL WITH PEOPLE.

IN THE MEANTIME THAT DID PULL BACK AND SAY, LOOK HIM ANYONE CHARGED WITH TAKE CRIME ON AN ATHLETIC TEAM WILL NOT BE OF TH PLAY CAN CRIMINAL CASE IS RESOLVED.

THEY HAVE TAKEN THAT STANCE STANDS, BUT I THINK IT TOOK WEL TO GET THERE.

>> PROBABLY IT COULD STAND TO TAKE.

I'M SURPRISED THAT WAS ALREADY THE RULE AND THAT BROUGHT THAT TO LIGHT THIS WEEK.

I WANT TO CHANGE GEARS AND TALK BUT VACCINATIONS.

WE TALK ABOUT VACCINATIONS EVER WEEK, I GUESS.

FROM NOW ON IF YOU'RE HIRED IN CITY POSITION, NEW HIRES WILL HAVE TO BE VACCINATED.

YOU MUST BE VACCINATED.

AMERICAN AIRLINES IS ALSO GOING TO FORCE THEIR EMPLOYEES, EVERY EMPLOYEE TO BE VACCINATED, NOT TO CHARLOTTE THAT SYSTEM WIDE.

NOT A TESTING OPTION FOR EMPLOYEES.

IS VACCINATION OR TERMINATION, GUESS.

THAT IS 13,000 EMPLOYEES IN CHARLOTTE AND THAT SENDS A LOUD MESSAGE TO EVERYBODY I SUPPOSE IN TERMS OF WHERE THIS MIGHT BE GOING WITH OTHER EMPLOYERS AS WELL.

YOU WANT TO TAKE A CRACK AT THIS ?

>> AMERICAN AIRLINES IS JOINING AND A LOT OF OTHER AIRLINES LIK THIS.

THEY MEET THAT DEFINITION OF FEDERAL CONTRACTORS, SO THE HAV TO COMPLY WITH FEDERAL MANDATE THAT FEDERAL WORKERS AND CONTRACTORS HAVE TO HAVE THEIR EMPLOYEES VACCINATED.

THEY HAVE ALSO JOINED JETBLUE, SOUTHWEST, UNITED.

SO THERE IS THAT ASPECT OF WHER THE THEY'RE SAYING, LISTEN, THI IS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW IT BUT THERE IS ALSO KEEPING THE TRAVELING PUBLIC UP THE STATE, FLEW LAST WEEK AND AMERICAN PLANES WERE EVERY SEAT WAS FALL ON EVERY FLIGHT.

SO YOU DO STILL HAVE AS PEOPLE ADJUST TO IT, PEOPLE ARE PSYCHOLOGICALLY ADJUSTING THE PISTOL HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE PACKE TOGETHER IN THE AIRPORT IT'S REALLY CROWDED.

SO FOR THE AIRLINE TO BE ABLE T SAY WERE SAFE IF YOU FLY WITH US .

OUR EMPLOYEES ARE VACCINATED.

WE HAVE GOT YOU.

I THINK THAT TRAVEL DEMAND IS DOING REALLY FRAGILE PLACE.

ANYTHING WE CAN DO FOR THAT IS IMPORTANT.

SO THEY ALSO HAVE UNIONS TO DEA WITH AND THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE HIRED THE IMMUNIZED IN THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY.

SO IT STILL COULD BE SOME PUSHBACK AND I THINK THE PILOT UNION WAS SAYING WE EXPECT THE AIRLINE TO NEGOTIATE WITH US AS THEY WOULD WITH ANY WORK CHANGE BUT AT THIS POINT I THINK WERE GOING TO SEE MAYBE ANY COMPANY WITH AN EXCUSE, ANY COMPANY THA CAN SAY WE ARE A FEDERAL CONTRACTOR OR WE ARE IN HEALTHCARE OR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS LIKE YOU WERE SAYING THAT THE CITY, SCHOOL SYSTEMS, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BECOME MORE AND MORE COMMON.

YOU CAN ALSO LOOK OUT WEST IN CALIFORNIA AND THEY HAVE A VACCINE REQUIREMENT FOR ALL OF THEIR STUDENTS AS WELL.

SO I THINK THESE MANDATES ARE GOING TO BECOME INCREASINGLY TH NORMAL AT LEAST IN BLUE OR PURPLE STATES BECAUSE THERE IS STILL AT LARGE POLITICAL DIVIDE UP AT THAT.

>> I GUESS THESE MANDATES, THERE'S A COMFORT LEVEL AND I GUESS PEOPLE WHO FLY ARE MORE COMFORTABLE KNOWING THAT ALL EMPLOYEES THAT THEIR PITCHING ICING ARE VACCINATED.

I WAS AT HOME DEPOT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND I SAW SOMEONE WHO HAD A MASCOT AND THEY HAD UNVACCINATED.

SO HAVING THAT, SEEING THAT OPTION RAISED COMFORT LEVELS.

AND THAT AIRLINES, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE MAJOR AIRLIN TO DO THIS MANDATE AND SO FAR 97 % OF ITS EMPLOYEES ARE VACCINATED, BUT THOSE WHO HAVE MEDICAL REASONS OR FOR RELIGIOU REASONS THAT TO GET THE VACCINE.

THERE PUTTING THEM ON UNPAID ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE.

SO I GUESS AMERICAN AIRLINES CA SAY THAT BUT THE PRESIDENT MADE ME DO.

I HAVE TO DO THIS.

>> SO THICK THAT COVERED FROM THE WHITE HOUSE ON THIS.

THERE ARE OSHA RULES THAT ARE COMING SOON.

AND ALSO WE SAW THE DO NOT ASLEEP AT THE WEEK BEFORE IN MECKLENBURG COUNTY.

BOTH TERMINATING EMPLOYEES WHO DIDN'T GET VACCINATED ARE TESTED .

SO IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE REALL SHIFTING ON THIS AND I'M NOT SURE HOW EMPLOYEES ARE GOING TO REACT BUT IT CERTAINLY EMPLOYER USE LIKE THEY HAVE GOT THE GREE LIGHT TO DO MORE WHEN IT COMES TO MEN DEBATING -- MANDATING VACCINATIONS.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A THOUGH ON THIS BEFORE WE MOVE ON?

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT HE CANNOT BE COINCIDENCE THAT THE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN BECAUSE ALL PEAC AND IT STARTED.

AND THEY FOR BETTER OFFERS, WHATEVER SIDE YOU FALL LIKE AND IT IS GOING TO BECOME THE WAY O THE WORLD.

I KNOW NOW YOU HAVE TO BE VACCINATED TO APPLY.

THAT IS THE CITY OF CHARLOTTE W ARE GOING TO SEE MORE OF IT AND IT IS GOING TO BE THE WAY AS WE LOOK BACK 2-3 YEARS FROM NOW AN WE ARE JUST GOING TO TAKE IT OR GIVE IT.

THIS IS STILL AN ISSUE.

>> YOU WANT TO WRAP IT UP FOR US ?

>> BARRING ANY LEGAL CHALLENGES TO THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, IT'S GOING TO GOING TO AFFECT O THE LINE SO I THINK A LOT OF COMPANIES ARE GOING TO HAVE NO CHOICE.

THEY ARE LEANING ON THAT AS A CRUTCH AND SAYING WE ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO DO THIS SO I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE ONE O THE WAYS WE GET OUT OF THIS AND WE INCREASE VACCINATION RATES, SPECIAL BECAUSE IF YOU CLICK AT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SUCH A STRONG POLITICAL DIVIDE OVER THE VACCINE AND AT THE SAME TIME WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE MANDATES COME IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS FOR EXAMPLE, IT'S A VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE TO END IT UP GETTING FIRED BECAUSE OF NOT BEING VACCINATED.

SO I THINK IS MUCH AS PEOPLE AT THE STRONG POLITICAL BACKS -- BELIEFS ABOUT THE.

>> IN, WHEN YOUR EMPLOYER TELLS YOU TO DO IT, YOU ARE PROBABLY GOING TO DO IT.

>> THAT IS THE MESSAGE FOR A LO OF FOLKS WHO REALIZE NOW THAT THESE EMPLOYEES ARE SERIOUS.

THAT DEADLINE FOR AMERICAN AIRLINES IS GOING TO BE EARLY DECEMBER AND THAT IS WHEN THE WHITE HOUSE AS THOSE IN PLACE FOR ALL COMPANIES THAT FALL UNDER THOSE OSHA RULES.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS AGAIN.

I WANT TO MOVE ON FOR AT THE CHARLOTTE MECKLENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ARE PRICED AT CITY DID REGARDING THE CITY.

FOR IT.

A PRIVATE COMPANY DID THE STUDY AND THE RESULTS SHOWED THAT IF YOU ARE BLACK OR HISPANIC IN CHARLOTTE, YOU ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE PULLED OPEN AND YOU ARE WHITE.

I KNOW THAT HE DID SEVERAL STORIES.

WHAT IS IN THERE?

>> WELL, A COUPLE OF THINGS.

AS YOU SAY, THEY FOUND THAT IF YOU ARE AFRICAN-AMERICAN OR HISPANIC, THE CHANCES ARE ALMOS DOUBLE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE PULLED OVER AND BEAT THE SUBJEC OF A USE OF FORCE THE WAY THEY CATEGORIES THAT.

BUT IS INTERESTING AND TALKING TO CITY OFFICIALS, TALKING TO POLICE AND TALKING FOR EXAMPLE TO CITY COUNCILMAN, WHO IS AFRICAN-AMERICAN, HE SAID THOSE NUMBERS UP TO BE PUT IN THE CONTEXT AND THE CONTEXT IS THIS POLICE ARE PULLING MORE PEOPLE OVER OR USING MORE ENFORCEMENT IN NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE CRIME IS HIGH.

AND HE REPRESENTS THE CORE DOOR -- AND IF YOU PULL TEN CARS OVER O THAT WROTE THEM YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBABLY A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF THAT WILL BE AFRICAN-AMERICAN, WHATEVER THAT IS.

SO HE IS SAYING AND THEY ARE SAYING, LOOK, THIS IS THE CONTEXT.

THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE CASE.

THEY DOVE DEEPLY INTO THOSE NUMBERS A LOT OF THE THINGS THA THEY PROFILED AS WELL OR ANALYZED WAS THE BRACE OF THE OFFICER INVOLVED.

THEY FOUND MORE AFRICAN-AMERICA OFFICERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO PUL OVER FOLKS THEN PEOPLE OF COLOR THAN WHITE OFFICERS.

SO THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF THAT CAN BE GETTING INTO THE NUMBERS.

GETS DOWN TO THE ATTITUDES AND THE CULTURE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IN THE CITY.

AND WHILE THAT WAS SUGGESTED AS AN ISSUE, THE ONE THAT BE TO.

[INDISCERNIBLE] WE TALK BUT THE USE OF POLICE OFFICERS HAD A BETTER WAY TO MAKE THINGS SAFE.

FEWER ENCOUNTERS AND MORE MENTA HEALTH PEOPLE INVOLVED AND I THINK THAT WAS REALLY WHILE THE OTHER ONE AND HAVE ICE WAS THEY'VE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT HAD CREATE CONTROVERSY AND CONFLICT BEFORE MITIGATED BY BEING -- BRINGING AND MORE TRAINED CLINICIANS TO RESPOND.

>> AND THEY WANT TO DO SOME RESEARCH INTO THOSE RESULTS.

YOU HAVE SOME THOUGHTS?

>> YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS ARE MORE PRUDENT THEN YOU NEED.

McDONALD IN NORTH CAROLINA SAID THE REASON WE CALLED FOR THE REVIEW WAS FOR A PLAN OF ACTION TO BE TAKEN, NOT A FURTHER DIVE INTO ALL THE RESEARCH THAT IS SAID THE SAME.

EVEN THAT HATE RESEARCH SAYS THIS SO THEY SAY IN ACTION BEFORE ELECTION REQUIRED.

SO THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE SAYING, HEY, RESEARCH AND RESEARCH AND RESEARCH OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND THEY'VE SET THE SAME THING.

SO INSTEAD OF DOING THE FURTHER DIVE, LET'S JUST FIGURE OUT HOW WE NEED TO FIX THE PROBLEM.

>> SO I GUESS WERE GETTING TO THOSE NUMBERS LAST WEEKEND THIS WEEK SO I GUESS WHOEVER IS TALKING ABOUT THIS AS THEY CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT IT, WE TALK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF FATAL CRASHES IN CHARLOTTE AND DESPIT ALL THE EFFORTS TO REDUCE THAT, NOT REALLY PRODUCING AT ALL AND THE CITY IS LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS ON HOW TO TAKE CARE THI GROWING PROBLEM.

>> THIS WEEK CITY COUNCIL GOT A UPDATE ON THE DIFFICULT VISION BUREAU WHICH IS A PLACE THAT THEY SIGN ONTO IN 2019 TO ELIMINATE TRAFFIC DEATHS BY 2030 .

IT IS AN AMBITIOUS GOAL AND PAR OF THE NATIONAL PROGRAM TO DO THE SAME, BUT CHARLOTTE'S NUMBERS HAVE NOT -- THE NOT GOING DOWN, THEY ARE TRENDING THE WRONG DIRECTION.

PLEASE SAID THIS WEEK THAT CHARLOTTE HAD 81 TRAFFIC BUT TELL THAT THIS LAST YEAR AND WERE ON TRACK TO EQUAL OR EXCEE THAT THIS YEAR AND THE REASONS ARE KIND OF A LITTLE TOUGH TO B IN DOWN.

IT IS MUCH AS CHARLOTTE.

NATIONWIDE WE'RE SEEING SHARP INCREASES IN TRAFFIC DEATHS AND THINGS LIKE SPEEDING ON WIDE-OPEN ROADS WHEN EVERYONE WAS STAYING HOME LAST YEAR, INCREASES AND DISTRACTED DRIVIN AND THERE ALSO SEE NEED TO BE DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE.

AND IT IS TOUGH TO SAY, BUT WE KNOW PEOPLE HAVE STRUGGLED IN SOME CASES WITH SUBSTANCE ABUSE DURING A PANDEMIC.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS.

IT'S NOT JUST CHARLOTTE.

AS WE LOOK TO REDUCE TRAFFIC DEATHS, THERE IS THE IMPORTANCE SIDE.

HAS BEEN REPORTED PRETTY WIDELY IN DIFFERENT MEDIA SOURCES.

THAT IS ONE PART OF PATIENCE THERE IS TRYING TO REDESIGN THEM .

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SPEED AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO TO MAKE THIS ROADS LESS CONDUCIVE AND DANGEROUS TO THAT.

THAT THE PROJECT ON THE ROAD PRODUCING THE LANES FROM FOUR T TWO.

THAT SOMETHING WE COULD SEE ON MORE ROADS.

THAT'S EXPENSIVE THAT THE TALKING ALMOST $4 MILLION AND ALMOST A MILE IN HER?

I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY HAS AN ANSWER YET.

ALL WE KNOW IS AGAIN ON TRACK T MEET THAT GOAL AND FRANKLY THE STREETS ARE GETTING MORE DANGEROUS.

>> I WANT TO TOUCH ON ONE MORE QUICK TOPIC.

I KNOW THAT THE COURTS ARE IN A CONTROVERSY RIGHT NOW.

CAN YOU WRAP THIS UP FOR US AND WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

>> SO AFTER THE EVICTION IS LIFTED OVERTURNED BY THE COURT, THE COURT HAD THIS MASSIVE STAC OF CASES FROM EVICTIONS THAT WERE FILED DURING THE MORATORIUM .

SO THEY ARE WORKING THEIR WAY THROUGH THAT BACKLOG.

BUT NEW CASES ARE GETTING SCHEDULED PRETTY FAR OUT BECAUS THEY ARE BUSY BUT THAT BACKLOG.

THE LANDLORD, THE ASSOCIATION THAT REPRESENTS A NUMBER OF LANDLORDS IS BASICALLY COMPLAINING THAT, YOU KNOW, -- LANDLORDS HAVE BEEN HURT, AS HAVE TENANTS, BY NOT GETTING TH INCOME THAT THEY ARE GETTING FROM THE RENTERS ARE THEY ARE SAYING WE NEED THESE TO MOVE FASTER IN ORDER TO -- >> THEY ARE TOUGH BUT TO CORREC FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.

WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

MORE TOPICS THAT WE HAVE TIME.

I APPRECIATE YOU ALL JOINING US THIS WEEK AND IT'S ALWAYS A GOO DISCUSSION.

YOU CAN ALWAYS JOIN US FROM THERE AS WELL.

IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO REMEMBER.

WE WILL SEE YOU NEXT TIME ON "OFF THE RECORD".

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