AS ELECTION DAY APPROACHES EYES AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE WATCHING BATTLEGROUND CONGRESSIONAL RACES, ESPECIALLY THE CAMPAIGN FOR OHIO'S FIRST DISTRICT SEAT.

FROM WARREN COUNTY TO THE BANKS OF THE OHIO, REDISTRICTING HAS CHANGED THE DISTRICT'S SHAPE, ADDING NEW VOTERS THAT COULD SHIFT ITS PARTISAN LEANINGS.

REPUBLICAN STEVE CHABOT WAS FIRST ELECTED TO THE SEAT IN 1994.

THIS IS THE FIRST ELECTION WHERE HE'S HAD TO RUN IN THE ENTIRE CITY OF CINCINNATI.

WILL HE RETAIN CONTROL, OR WILL DEMOCRATIC CINCINNATI CITY COUNCILMAN GREG LANDSMAN FIND ENOUGH TO SUPPORT TO FLIP IT?

FROM THE ECONOMY AND INFRASTRUCTURE, TO HEALTH CARE, GUNS, AND CLIMATE CHANGE TONIGHT WE'LL HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE CANDIDATES ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT MATTER MOST.

IT IS TIME FOR OHIO'S FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT DEBATE.

MODERATING TONIGHT'S DEBATE, HERE'S WVXU'S CINCINNATI EDITION HOST LUCY MAY.

>> LUCY MAY: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO THIS THE FINAL DEBATE IN THE RACE FOR THE U.S. HOUSE SEAT REPRESENTING OHIO'S FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

THANKS TO ALL OF YOU JOINING US ON 91.7 WVXU, CET/PBS, AND VIA ONLINE SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS OF WVXU, CET, AND THE CINCINNATI CHAMBER.

IN COLLABORATION WITH CET AND THE CINCINNATI USA REGIONAL CHAMBER, WE'RE PLEASED TO BRING A EVENING WITH THE TWO CANDIDATES FOR OHIO'S FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN STEVE CHABOT AND DEMOCRATIC CINCINNATI CITY COUNCILMEMBER GREG LANDSMAN.

WELCOME, CONGRESSMAN CHABOT AND COUNCILMAN LANDSMAN.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MAY: QUESTIONS IN TONIGHT'S DEBATE WILL COME FROM OUR PANELISTS.

I'D LIKE TO WELCOME WVXU REPORTER NICK SWARTSELL; SENIOR REPORTER FOR WCPO 9 NEWS, LARRY SEWARD; AND THE CINCINNATI CHAMBER'S VICE PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS, KATIE EAGAN.

WELCOME TO YOU ALL.

NOW LET'S GO ON SOME GUIDELINES FOR TONIGHT DEBATE.

EACH CANDIDATES WILL HAVE 60 SECONDS TO PROVIDE AN INITIAL RESPONSE TO HIS RESPECTIVE QUESTIONS.

OPPOSING CANDIDATE WILL THEN RECEIVE 90 SECONDS FOR REBUTTAL, AND THEN A 30 SECOND FINAL REBUTTAL TO THE FIRST CANDIDATE.

CANDIDATES WILL BE NOTIFIED BY OUR TIMEKEEPER CLOCKS WHEN 15 SECONDS REMAIN, AND WHEN THE ALLOTTED TIME HAS EXPIRED.

IF THE OCCASION ARISES, I MAY ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

WE'LL START WITH SHORT OPENING STATEMENTS.

IT WAS DECIDED BY COIN FLIP THAT MR. LANDSMAN WILL BE FIRST THIS EVENING.

LET'S GET STARTED.

COUNCILMEMBER LANDSMAN?

>> GREG LANDSMAN: THANK YOU, LUCY, AND THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE ORGANIZERS AND TO EVERYONE WATCHING AT HOME.

THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING, PARTICULARLY MY SON ELIJAH WHO TURNS 11 TODAY.

HE'S WATCHING, SO HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BUDDY.

LOVE YOU.

I WISH I WAS THERE, THOUGH THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION.

AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO CANDIDATES HERE COULDN'T BE CLEARER.

I'M A FATHER, FORMER TEACHER, I LED THE EFFORT TO PROVIDE PRESCHOOL TO 3 AND 4 YEAR OLDS IN CITY OF CINCINNATI, MAKING CINCINNATI ONE OF THE FIRST CITIES IN THE COUNTRY TO DO THAT.

AND SINCE I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL, I HAVE VOTED TO REDUCE PROPERTY TAXES 5 TIMES, VOTED FOR CORE SERVICES, PARTICULARLY POLICE AND FIRE, AND LED AN EFFORT TO PASS COMPREHENSIVE EVICTION REFORM TO MAKE SURE FOLKS STAY IN THEIR HOMES.

AND WE KEPT THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES.

CONGRESSMAN CHABOT HAS BECOME A ROADBLOCK FOR OUR WORK HERE IN SOUTHWEST OHIO.

IT IS NOT THAT HE HAS BEEN RUNNING FOR OFFICE SINCE I WAS 3 YEARS OLD, THAT HE'S A CAREER POLITICIAN WHO HAS BEEN STUCK IN WASHINGTON FOR DECADES, IT IS THAT HE HAS BECOME PART OF THE CHAOS AND EXTREMISM THAT WE ALL HATE AND HIS VOTES HAVE BECOME HARMFUL TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE HERE.

ON THE ECONOMY, HE KEEPS VOTING AGAINST EFFORTS TO GET WAGES UP AND COSTS DOWN.

HE VOTED AGAINST THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL AND, LITERALLY, FUNDING FOR ROADS AND BRIDGES.

ON CRIME AND GUN VIOLENCE HE WON'T STAND UP TO THE GUN LOBBY AND WE KEEP SEEING THIS INFLUX OF GUNS INTO OUR COMMUNITIES.

HE TRIED TO OVERTURN A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, AND WANTS TO NATIONAL BAN ON ABORTION WITHOUT EXCEPTION FOR RAPE, INCEST, THE LIFE OF MOTHER, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

CHABOT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE, HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO VOTE AGAINST US UNTIL WE VOTE AGAINST HIM.

SO JOIN US, LET'S GET A NEW CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU.

>> MAY: AND CONGRESSMAN CHABOT, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

>> STEVE CHABOT: THANK YOU.

I WANT TO THANK THE FOLKS WHO PUT THIS ON THIS EVENING AS WELL.

IT HAS BEEN A HONOR TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR QUITE SOME TIME, PRIOR TO THAT ON CINCINNATI CITY COUNCIL AND AS A COUNTY COMMISSIONER AS WELL.

AND I ALSO WAS A SCHOOL TEACHER, I ALSO PRACTICED LAW.

I'M A HUSBAND AND FATHER AND GRANDFATHER.

AND I ACTUALLY HAVE A GRANDSON WHO IS 10, SO PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AGE.

AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO MR. LANDSMAN'S SON AS WELL.

UNFORTUNATELY, MOST OF THE THINGS HE JUST SAID ABOUT ME WERE COMPLETE DISTORTIONS OR ABSOLUTELY JUST NOT TRUE.

AND I HAVE TO SAY I'M VERY, VERY DISAPPOINTED IN WHAT I SEE HAPPENING WITH OUR COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.

IT IS REALLY DANGEROUS AND NEEDS TO CHANGE.

WE HAD A STRONG ECONOMY, WE HAD LOW INFLATION, WE HAD OUR BORDER UNDER CONTROL.

AND THEN NANCY PELOSI AND CHUCK SCHUMER AND JOE BIDEN TOOK OVER AND WE PRETTY MUCH WENT DOWN HILL FROM THERE.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, MR. LANDSMAN HERE AGREES WITH ALL OF THE TAX AND SPEND POLICIES THAT THEY'VE IMPLEMENTED IN WASHINGTON, WHICH CAUSED THE INFLATION AND HAS HURT SO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

PEOPLE ARE HAVING A HARD TIME PUTTING FOOD ON THE TABLE, FILLING UP THEIR GAS TANK AND IT'S BECAUSE OF SELF INFLICTED POLICIES FROM THE DEMOCRATS WHO BASICALLY CONTROL EVERYTHING IN CONGRESS RIGHT NOW.

AND THEY RAISE TAXES AND MR. LANDSMAN IS OKAY, BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS HE OKAY WITH THE TAX CUTS IN WASHINGTON, BUT VOTED TO RAISE TAXES, NOT CUT THEM HERE IN CINCINNATI, BUT TO RAISE TAXES NOT ONCE OR TWICE, BUT 8 TIMES.

THIS WAS AT A TIME WHEN HE WASN'T EVEN PAYING HIS OWN TAXES.

HE'S THE GUY WHO AT A TIME OF ALL TIME HIGH HOMICIDE RATES.

HE'S THE GUY ON COUNCIL WHO WANTED TO DEFUND THE POLICE.

AND IT IS JUST AMAZING.

I REALLY THINK THE ELECTION BOILS DOWN TO GROCERIES AND CRIME.

GROCERIES ARE TOO HIGH, AND CRIME ALSO, PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO LIVE IN SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS.

>> MAY: THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN.

WE'LL NOW GET INTO OUR QUESTIONS.

OUR FIRST TOPIC TONIGHT WILL BE THE ECONOMY.

THIS QUESTION WILL BE TO MR. LANDSMAN AND COMES FROM KATIE EAGAN WITH THE CINCINNATI CHAMBER.

>> KATIE EAGAN: COUNCILMEMBER LANDSMAN, THE CINCINNATI REGION IS THE LARGEST ECONOMY IN OHIO AND KENTUCKY, BUT MANY OF OUR PEER CITIES HAVE SEEN STRONGER RELATIVE GROWTH IN RECENT YEARS.

AS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO SUPPORT THE ECONOMIC HEALTH OF THE ENTIRE REGION, INCLUDING PARTS OF THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, AND THE DIVERSE RANGE OF LOCAL URBAN, SUBURBAN AND RURAL ECONOMIES IN THE DISTRICT, TO MAINTAIN OUR POSITION AS A DOMINANT ECONOMY IN THE MIDWEST?

>> LANDSMAN: THE KEY TO GROWING ANY ECONOMY IS MAJOR INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE, AND MAJOR INVESTMENTS IN EDUCATION AND OUR WORK FORCE.

AND WE HAVE A CONGRESS THAT HASN'T DONE ENOUGH OF EITHER ONE.

AND WHEN THERE WAS THIS BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL TO FUND BRENT SPENCE BRIDGE, THE WESTERN HILLS VIADUCT, OUR ROADS, RETAINING WALLS, ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE NEED FOR A ROBUST ECONOMY, CONGRESSMAN CHABOT VOTED AGAINST IT, VOTED AGAINST FUNDING FOR OUR ROADS AND BRIDGES.

AND THE SAME IS TRUE FOR INVESTMENTS IN EDUCATION, FROM CHILD CARE TO MAKING SURE THAT OUR SCHOOLS HAVE WHAT THEY NEED TO HIGHER EDUCATION, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE KINDS OF INVESTMENTS.

AND IT IS BECAUSE OF FOLKS LIKE CONGRESSMAN CHABOT.

THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ECONOMY THAN CONGRESSMAN CHABOT.

BIDEN HAS BEEN THERE FOR 2 YEARS, TRUMP WAS 4, HE'S BEEN THERE FOR 27.

>> MAY: THANK YOU, MR. LANDSMAN.

>> CHABOT: -- QUITE WELL UNDER THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION.

UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN MR. LANDSMAN'S PARTY TOOK OVER, AND HE AGREES WITH ALL THESE POLICIES, THEY REVERSED THE POLICIES WHICH WERE ACTUALLY WORKING.

I VOTED FOR THE TAX CUTS AND JOBS ACT WHICH ABOUT 85% OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY GOT THEIR TAXES CUT.

HE'S RUNNING AN AD RIGHT NOW WHERE HE'S ACCUSED ME OF HAVING HIKED TAXES, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS.

IT WAS THE TAX CUTS IN JOBS ACT WHICH IS TRUTHFULLY NAMED, UNLIKE THE SO-CALLED THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, WHICH WAS MORE SPENDING AND INFLATIONARY.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MISNAMING A BILL, THAT CERTAINLY DID IT.

NOW, WHAT WE ACTUALLY NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO BE ENERGY INDEPENDENT AGAIN, AND WE NEED TO KEEP THE COST DOWN AND KEEP THE INFLATION DOWN SO SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T HURT.

INFLATION, WE'RE AT 40 YEAR HIGHS NOW.

MR. LANDSMAN, UNFORTUNATELY, HE WAS FOR THAT COVID RELIEF BILL, ALMOST $2 TRILLION THAT ONLY 9% OF IT WAS COVID RELIEF.

HE WAS FOR THE SO-CALLED INFRASTRUCTURE -- THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT THAT I MENTIONED.

IN FACT HERE HE'S RAISING OUR TAXES.

HE SUPPORTS THE RADICAL GREEN NEW DEAL POLICY OF AOC WHICH HAS CAUSED US TO NO LONGER BE ENERGY INDEPENDENT.

THAT'S WHY GAS PRICES ARE GOING UP.

THE POLICIES THAT HE'S IMPLEMENTED RAISING OUR TAXES AND DEFUNDING THE POLICE AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS, THAT'S HURTING THE ECONOMY.

WE NEED REVERSE THOSE THINGS.

>> MAY: YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS, MR. LANDSMAN.

>> LANDSMAN: HE ALWAYS BRINGS UP THE GREEN NEW DEAL.

I LEGITIMATELY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.

HE IS OBSESSED WITH IT.

HERE'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH ALL OUR WORK FORCE AND ALL OF THE TALENT WORK THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING HERE IN SOUTHWEST OHIO, IS THAT NO ONE IS GOING TO WANT TO COME HERE, NO ONE IS GOING TO WANT TO INVEST HERE, NO ONE IS GOING TO WANT TO WORK HERE IF THEY DON'T THINK THEY CAN RAISE A FAMILY HERE.

IF THIS IS A PLACE WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM, WHERE THEY'RE WORRIED THAT THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MARRY THE PERSON THEY WANT TO MARRY.

ALL OF THESE RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS WHICH CONGRESSMAN CHABOT AND OTHERS ARE WORKING TO TAKE AWAY FROM OUR FOLKS, THAT IS GOING TO MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO HAVE THE TALENT WE NEED.

>> MAY: OUR NEXT QUESTION GOES TO CONGRESSMAN CHABOT FROM LARRY SEWARD OF WCPO 9 NEWS.

>> SEWARD: CONGRESSMAN, THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE, A MORE THAN $2 TRILLION INVESTMENT IN THE COUNTRY'S TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE WAS SUPPORTED BY DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN SENATORS FROM OUR REGION, BUT YOU VOTED AGAINST IT.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN YOUR VOTE AND HOW WOULD YOU HAVE BROUGHT CRITICAL FUNDING, FEDERAL FUNDING TO IMPORTANT PROJECTS IN OUR REGION LIKE THE BRENT SPENCE BRIDGE, THE WESTERN HILLS VIADUCT, AND REINVENTING METRO?

>> CHABOT: INFRASTRUCTURE IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE BROUGHT A RANGE OF FUNDING FOR VARIOUS PROJECTS, LIKE THE BRENT SPENCE BRIDGE, WESTERN HILLS VIADUCT, THE 75 AND 71 IMPROVEMENTS, WALDVOGEL VIADUCT GOING OVER TO PRICE HILL, FORT WASHINGTON WAY, THE MARTIN LUTHER KING INTERCHANGE, THE BANKS, AND A WHOLE RANGE OF OTHER THINGS.

I VOTED FOR A LOT OF HIGHWAYS, TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE BILLS AND AGAINST OTHERS.

THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THIS BROUGHT ALONG THE SO-CALLED INFLATION REDUCTION ACT, WHICH GAVE US 87,000 NEW IRS AGENTS, FOR EXAMPLE.

THAT'S THE LAST THING WE NEED.

THAT'S WHAT HE WAS FOR.

IT WAS FILLED WITH GREEN NEW DEAL STUFF.

IT WASN'T PAID FOR.

AND ONLY LESS THAN HALF OF THE MONEY ACTUALLY WENT FOR ROADS AND BRIDGES, BECAUSE AOC HAD WON AND GOT IT STOCK FULL ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.

IN MY VIEW, YOU SUPPORT INFRASTRUCTURE BILLS SO YOU CAN STILL ACTUALLY GET THE FUNDING, WHICH I DEMONSTRATED THAT WE GOT LOTS OF FUNDING, EVEN WHEN YOU VOTED AGAINST THESE MASSIVE BILLS.

>> MAY: THANK YOU, CONGRESSMAN CHABOT.

YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

>> LANDSMAN: THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

WE HAVE BEEN DOING ALL OF THIS WORK HERE IN A BIPARTISAN FASHION, THE CHAMBER, BUSINESS LEADERS, LABOR, REPUBLICAN, DEMOCRATS, INDEPENDENTS, EVERYONE WORKING TOGETHER TO GET BIG THINGS DONE.

ONE OF THE LARGEST INCREASES IN OUR PUBLIC TRANSIT AND INFRASTRUCTURE EVER IN THE HISTORY OF COUNTY.

WE PASSED THAT A COUPLE YEARS AGO BECAUSE CONGRESS WASN'T ACTING.

THEN ALL OF THE SUDDEN THERE'S BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL THAT ROB PORTMAN AND OTHER REPUBLICANS SUPPORTED, THEY NEGOTIATED.

IT WAS A GOOD BILL AND HE VOTES AGAINST IT, EVEN THOUGH HE SAID FOR DECADES, "THIS IS MY BIG PRIORITY.

I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE WE GET FUNDING FOR THE BRIDGE."

THERE IS A VOTE, HE SAYS NO.

HE HAS BECOME A ROADBLOCK AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE SO FRUSTRATED WITH.

IF HE HAD SUCCEEDED, WE WOULDN'T HAVE MONEY FOR THE BRENT SPENCE BRIDGE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE MONEY FOR THE WESTERN HILLS VIADUCT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE MONEY TO PAVE ROADS AND FOR RETAINING WALLS.

IT INCLUDED THE LARGEST INVESTMENT IN CLEAN WATER EVER, AND HE SAID NO.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF THIS PATTERN THAT HAS GOTTEN WORSE, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL OF THIS CHAOS AND EXTREMISM OF TRUMP AND FOLKS THAT ENABLE TRUMP, LIKE CONGRESSMAN CHABOT.

AND HE'S JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO VOTE AGAINST US UNTIL WE VOTE AGAINST HIM.

>> MAY: CONGRESSMAN CHABOT, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.

>> CHABOT: MR. LANDSMAN IS JUST NAIVE.

HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST A MASSIVE BILL, IT LITERALLY CAN BE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THAT HURTS THE ECONOMY, THAT THEY HAVE TO RAISE TAXES FOR, THAT WILL ULTIMATELY HIRE A BUNCH OF NEW IRS AGENTS, WHICH HE'S FOR.

YOU CAN VOTE AGAINST THAT BILL BUT STILL OBTAIN FUNDING FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

I HAVE DONE THAT FOR YEARS NOW.

WE ALREADY HAD $56 MILLION FOR THE BRENT SPENCE OVER THE YEARS PRIOR TO THIS, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET MONEY.

WE CAN DO THAT WITHOUT RAISING TAXES.

HE'S OKAY WITH RAISING TAXES, I'M NOT.

>> MAY: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE NOW TO THE TOPIC OF HOUSING.

OUR NEXT QUESTION TO COUNCILMEMBER LANDSMAN FROM NICK SWARTSELL OF WVXU.

>> SWARTSELL: COUNCILMEMBER, SOME OF THE MOST UTILIZED TOOLS TO BUILD NEW HOUSING HAVE BEEN FEDERAL PROGRAMS LIKE NEW MARKET TAX CREDITS, LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS, HISTORIC TAX CREDITS, AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANTS.

IF ELECTED WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ROLE IN CONGRESS TO SUPPORT COMMUNITIES LOOKING TO BUILD MORE HOUSING?

>> LANDSMAN: WE ABSOLUTELY NEED REAL LEADERSHIP ON HOUSING FROM CONGRESS AND WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT AND WE HAVEN'T GOT IT FROM CONGRESSMAN CHABOT OR FROM EITHER PARTY, QUITE FRANKLY.

HOUSING HAS TO BE A TOP PRIORITY.

IT IS A TOP PRIORITY IN THIS REGION.

WE ARE STARTING TO COME BACK TOGETHER, AS WE HAVE DONE, WE CAME TOGETHER TO GET PRESCHOOL PASSED.

WE CAME TOGETHER TO GET THE TRANSIT AND INFRASTRUCTURE LEVY PASSED.

AND WE'RE NOW COMING TOGETHER TO REALLY INVEST IN HOUSING, AND CHAMBER HAS BEEN A BIG LEADER IN THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, CONGRESS HAS REFUSED TO ACT ON MAJOR, MAJOR INVESTMENTS IN HOUSING.

AND SO, WE NEED SOMEBODY WHO HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF BRINGING REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AND INDEPENDENTS TOGETHER TO GET BIG THINGS DONE, WHICH I HAVE, TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A MEMBER OF CONGRESS WHO NOT ONLY VOTES FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR HOUSING, BUT IS LEADING THIS REGIONAL EFFORT TO ENSURE THAT PEOPLE CAN AFFORD GOOD QUALITY HOUSING IN SOUTHWEST OHIO.

>> MAY: CONGRESSMAN CHABOT, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

>> CHABOT: SPEAKING OF HOUSING, JUST RECENTLY MR. LANDSMAN WAS BRAGGING ABOUT RENTAL HOUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND HE BRAGGED ABOUT HOW HE HAD SUCCESSFULLY GOT RENTAL IN CINCINNATI TO COME DOWN.

THE CINCINNATI ENQUIRER, A PRETTY MAJOR NEWSPAPER IN OUR REGION DID A STORY A COUPLE DAYS LATER, BASICALLY REFUTING WHAT MR. LANDSMAN HAD BRAGGED ABOUT, THAT IT TURNED OUT THAT RENTAL HAD NOT COME DOWN, IT HAD ACTUALLY BUMPED UP, IT SKYROCKETED HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER CITY IN AMERICA.

SO, AT A TIME HE'S BRAGGING ABOUT LOWERING RENTALS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY, THEY'D ACTUALLY GONE UP BY 25%.

NOW TO MR. LANDSMAN WHEN YOU MAKE ALMOST $400,000 A YEAR, HE AND HIS FAMILY DO, THAT MAY NOT BE A LOT OF MONEY.

BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY DO LIVE IN RENTAL HOUSING, IT IS A URBAN AREA HERE IN THE CITY.

I NOW HAVE ALL OF CITY OF CINCINNATI WITHIN THIS CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SO THAT'S IMPORTANT.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT HOUSING, MOST OF IT ISN'T GOVERNMENT HOUSING, IT IS PRIVATE HOUSING.

SO YOU NEED A STRONG ECONOMY.

SO WHAT DO YOU NEED?

YOU NEED LOWER TAXES, YOU NEED SANE ENERGY POLICIES, NOT THIS GREEN NEW DEAL STUFF, AND YOU NEED SAFE COMMUNITIES.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE SAFE COMMUNITIES WHEN YOU'RE THE PERSON WHO HAS VOTED TO, NOT JUST VOTED, BUT INTRODUCED LEGISLATION TO DEFUND THE POLICE.

AND CHANNEL 5 DID A STORY WHAT HE DID WAS THE DEFINITION OF DEFUNDING THE POLICE.

>> MAY: YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.

>> LANDSMAN: YEAH, HE FORGETS SOMETIMES THAT HE REPRESENTS THE CITY OF CINCINNATI.

AND FOLKS KEEP SAYING IT IS REALLY FRUSTRATING THAT HE KEEPS TRASHING THE CITY.

YOU REPRESENT THE CITY OF CINCINNATI.

THERE IS A REASON WHY RENTS HAVE GONE UP, AND THAT IS BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE HERE.

AND WHAT WE NEED IS A PARTNER, FEDERAL PARTNER THAT IS GOING TO HELP.

AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT AND WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT ON TRANSIT, WE HAVEN'T HAD IT ON GETTING WAGES UP, WE HAVEN'T HAD IT ON GETTING COSTS DOWN, AND WE DON'T HAVE IT ON SOMEBODY WHO IS VOTING AGAINST OUR FREEDOMS.

>> MAY: WE'RE GOING TO SHIFT TO GUNS AND CRIME.

THIS NEXT QUESTION WILL BE FROM LARRY SEWARD OF WCPO 9 NEWS, AND DIRECTED TO MR. LANDSMAN.

I'M SORRY, I APOLOGIZE, LARRY, WE'LL STICK WITH HOUSING AND THIS QUESTION WILL BE FROM LARRY SEWARD TO MR. CHABOT.

>> SEWARD: THANK YOU.

CONGRESSMAN, THERE ARE WORKING FAMILIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO KEEP THEIR HOMES.

CINCINNATI SAW 144 NEW EVICTION FILINGS LAST WEEK.

YOU VOTED AGAINST THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT THAT WOULD AMONG OTHER THINGS APPROPRIATE FUNDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT TO ADDRESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WHAT LEGISLATION WILL YOU CREATE OR SUPPORT TO HELP THEM?

>> CHABOT: OKAY.

I'M GOING TO GET TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT BEFORE THAT, HE JUST MADE AN ALLEGATION THAT I HAVE BEEN TRASHING CITY OF CINCINNATI, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY ABSURD.

I WAS A MEMBER OF CITY COUNCIL AND COUNTY COMMISSION BEFORE I GOT TO CONGRESS.

I LOVE THE CITY OF CINCINNATI.

I HAVE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE.

I WAS BORN HERE AND STILL LIVE IN THE CITY.

I'M NOT THE ONE THAT TRASHES THE CITY.

HE ACTUALLY STATED THAT THIS IS THE WORST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT THERE IS.

I THINK IT IS THE BEST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT THAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE CITY IS IN THE DISTRICT NOW, THAT THIS THE WORST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS.

YOU ARE YOU GOING TO BE RUNNING AND YOU ARE NOT GOING TO REPRESENT IT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING IN THE BEST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

>> LANDSMAN: I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

>> CHABOT: YOU DID.

>> LANDSMAN: NO, DIDN'T.

>> CHABOT: I READ THE ARTICLE.

YOU DID.

>> MAY: CAN WE STICK TO THE QUESTION?

>> CHABOT: NOW, IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT HOUSING AGAIN, WHAT YOU NEED IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT WHEN YOU HAVE INFLATIONARY POLICIES.

AND THAT'S WHAT HE HAS VOTED FOR.

HE SUPPORTS NANCY PELOSI'S TAX AND SPEND POLICIES WHICH HAVE CAUSED THE PRICES OF VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING TO GO UP, INCLUDING HOUSING, MAKING UNAFFORDABLE FOR PEOPLE.

>> MAY: MR. LANDSMAN, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

>> LANDSMAN: YEAH, HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO VOTE AGAINST US UNTIL WE VOTE AGAINST HIM.

HE HAS VOTED TIME AND TIME AGAIN AGAINST ALL OF THESE EFFORTS THAT MAKE IT EASIER TO RAISE A FAMILY AND FOR PEOPLE TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES.

AND SO, WHEN IT COMES TO ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE HE HAS SAID NO.

WE DESPERATELY NEED THAT MONEY NOT JUST SO FAMILY AND CHILDREN CAN STAY IN THEIR HOME, BUT FOR NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY.

IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

AND YOU KNOW HE TALKS ABOUT THE ISSUES, BUT OVER THE DECADES HE HASN'T DONE MUCH.

AND NOW HE, OF COURSE, IS ACTIVELY HURTING THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN CINCINNATI AND SOUTHWEST OHIO.

AND PART OF WHAT HE DOES IN TERMS OF THE CRAZY ACCUSATIONS ABOUT TAXES AND POLICE AND, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS THAT, OF COURSE, I SAID THE DISTRICT WAS TERRIBLE FOR HIM BECAUSE IT'S BECOME VERY BAD FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS SO EXTREME.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID, IN ANY EVENT, HE KNOWS THAT.

HE IS TRYING TO DISTRACT YOU FROM HIS RECORD, BECAUSE HE KNOWS IF YOU GO AND VOTE AND IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE VOTED AGAINST THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, THAT HE VOTED TO OVERTURN AN ELECTION, THAT HE VOTES, YOU KNOW, TO KEEP WAGES LOW AND COSTS HIGH, AND HE WANTS TO FEDERAL BAN ON ALL ABORTION, YOU ARE GOING TO VOTE AGAINST HIM.

>> MAY: MR. CHABOT, 30 SECONDS.

>> CHABOT: HE SAID I HAVEN'T DONE MUCH?

WELL, I GOT THE PPP, PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM PASSED IN A BIPARTISAN WAY.

THIS IS WHEN THE COVID HIT AND WE HAD THE -- PEOPLE WERE OUT OF WORK, GOVERNMENT SHUT THEM DOWN.

WE GOT MORE MONEY, ALMOST $3 BILLION, AND MORE JOBS WERE SAVED THAN ANY OTHER CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN OHIO.

AND IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE MR. LANDSMAN, WHOSE FAMILY MAKES $400,000 A YEAR, HE GOT A PPP LOAN OF $16,000.

HE DIDN'T NEED THAT.

HE MAKES 60 GRAND ON CITY COUNCIL.

SOMEBODY COULD HAVE USED TO LOAN, IT RAN OUT OF MONEY, BY THE WAY, THE PROGRAM DID, BUT MR. LANDSMAN TOOK ADVANTAGE OF IT.

>> MAY: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE NOW TO GUNS AND CRIME.

THIS NEXT QUESTION WILL GO TO COUNCILMEMBER LANDSMAN FROM LARRY SEWARD FROM WCPO 9 NEWS.

>> SEWARD: COUNCILMEMBER, RURAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS STRUGGLE HIRING POLICE OFFICERS, MANY LEAN ON PART-TIME HIRES WHO MAKE BETTER MONEY IN BIGGER TOWNS AND CITIES.

SOME FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT TOWNSHIPS ARE UNABLE TO AFFORD PAYING SHERIFF OFFICES FOR PATROLS.

IF ELECTED, WHAT ARE YOU PREPARED TO DO TO ENSURE PUBLIC SAFETY IN THESE COMMUNITIES?

>> LANDSMAN: SUCH A GOOD QUESTION.

A COUPLE THINGS, FIRST, WE NEED TO SEE ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS IN POLICE AND FIRE.

THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN INCLUDED $350 BILLION FOR POLICE AND FIRE.

I WAS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

CONGRESSMAN CHABOT VOTED AGAINST IT.

THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DEVASTATING FOR TOWNSHIPS, THE COUNTY, THE CITY OF CINCINNATI.

WE WERE ABLE TO USE THOSE DOLLARS TO INCREASE OUR COMPLEMENT, MEANING THAT WE ARE HIRING MORE AND MORE POLICE OFFICERS.

IN FACT, WE WERE ABLE TO GET A SECOND RECRUIT CLASS THIS YEAR, THE FIRST TIME WE HAD A DOUBLE RECRUIT CLASS IN 25 YEARS, BECAUSE OF THAT MONEY.

AND SO CONGRESS, WHO -- THEY HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE, WHERE THEY HAVE FUNDED POLICE AND FIRE.

WE NEED SO SEE MORE OF THAT UNTIL WE SEE THE COMPLEMENTS GO ALL THE WAY BACK UP PRE-PANDEMIC.

JUST THIS WEEK I VOTED TO INCREASE BASE PAY FOR POLICE AND INCENTIVE PAY SO WE COULD RECRUIT ALL THE FOLKS WE NEED.

I WILL ALSO TACKLE THE ISSUE OF THE GUN VIOLENCE.

>> MAY: THANK YOU, MR. LANDSMAN.

MR. CHABOT, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

>> CHABOT: WE ABSOLUTELY NEED TO SUPPORT OUR POLICE, BOTH IN LARGE CITIES LIKE CINCINNATI AND ALSO IN THE SMALLER COMMUNITIES.

THERE IS A LOT OF SMALLER POLICE DEPARTMENTS, AND I VISIT THEM ALL THE TIME, JUST WAS AT THE SAINT BERNARD POLICE DEPARTMENT JUST TWO DAYS AGO MEETING WITH THE CHIEF THERE, AS WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I WORK WITH THE POLICE, I SUPPORT THE POLICE, AND THEY SUPPORT ME BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS ELECTION EVEN THE CINCINNATI POLICE DEPARTMENT, HE'S A MEMBER OF CINCINNATI CITY COUNCIL AND THE CINCINNATI POLICE HAVE ENDORSED ME AND NOT HIM.

AND THE SAME THING WITH THE WARREN COUNTY POLICE.

YOU MENTIONED SMALLER DEPARTMENTS, WE ACTUALLY IN A BIPARTISAN MANNER JUST RECENTLY WITHIN THE LAST MONTH IN CONGRESS PASSED LEGISLATION WHICH WOULD MAKE SURE THAT SMALLER POLICE DEPARTMENTS ALSO GET THEIR FAIR SHARE OF THE MONEY.

UNFORTUNATELY, MR. LANDSMAN NOT ONLY DOES HE NOT SUPPORT THE POLICE AND THEY DON'T SUPPORT HIM, BUT HE WANTED TO DEFUND THE POLICE.

HE WANTED TO TAKE $200,000 OUT OF POLICE BUDGET AND GIVE IT TO THE PEOPLE WHO PURSUE COMPLAINTS AGAINST THE POLICE.

AND THEN HE VOTED TO CUT ANOTHER MILLION OUT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AGAIN, THIS WAS AT A TIME WHEN WE HAD A RECORD HIGH HOMICIDE RATE.

AND HERE'S WHAT THE CHIEF -- EXCUSE ME, THE HEAD OF THE FOP SAID ABOUT MR. LANDSMAN.

HE SAID LANDSMAN STOOD WITH THE EXTREMISTS AND RADICALS AND INTRODUCED THE RESOLUTION TO DEFUND OUR LOCAL POLICE.

AND LANDSMAN HAS CONSISTENTLY LIED ABOUT HIS RECORD ON HIS SUPPORT FOR POLICE.

THAT'S WHAT THE HEAD OF THE POLICE UNION HERE IN CINCINNATI SAID ABOUT HIM.

>> MAY: MR. LANDSMAN, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.

>> LANDSMAN: YEAH, HE'S LYING.

HE CONTINUES TO LIE AND HE'S BEEN TOLD BY POLICE OFFICERS, HE'S BEEN TOLD BY REPORTERS, LAST NIGHT HE WAS TOLD BY THE MODERATOR, "IT IS NOT TRUE, WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING IT?"

AND THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION TO HIS RECORD, TO THE FACT THAT HE VOTED AGAINST $350 BILLION FOR POLICE AND FIRE, THAT HE WON'T STAND UP TO THE GUN LOBBY, AND THESE GUNS CONTINUE TO FLOOD OUR STREETS AND THAT HE CONTINUES TO VOTE AGAINST US.

>> MAY: THANK YOU.

NEXT QUESTION, WE'RE STICKING WITH GUNS AND CRIME.

THIS WILL BE ASKED OF MR. CHABOT BY KATIE EAGAN.

>> EAGAN: THANK YOU.

MR. CHABOT, NATIONAL EFFORTS TO REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE APPEAR TO HAVE FAILED.

IN 2020 AMERICA SAW THE HIGHEST EVER NUMBER OF GUN DEATHS AND THE HIGHEST RATE PER CAPITA SINCE THE MID '90'S.

IN THE SAME YEAR FIREARM RELATED INJURIES BECAME THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AMONG CHILDREN AGED 1-19.

WHAT SHOULD CONGRESS DO TO REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE?

>> CHABOT: WE DESERVE TO HAVE SAFER NEIGHBORHOODS.

THERE IS TOO MUCH GUN VIOLENCE AND VIOLENCE OF ALL SORTS IN THIS COUNTRY.

AFTER PARKLAND I MET WITH HEAD OF OUR LOCAL POLICE FOLKS HERE AND WE ACTUALLY WORKED ON LEGISLATION IN A BIPARTISAN MANNER AND ACTUALLY GOT IT PASSED TO HELP THE HARDEN OUR SCHOOLS TOWARD VIOLENCE.

AND AFTER UVALDI I SUPPORTED, IT WAS A BIPARTISAN BILL, MOSTLY DEMOCRATS.

ONLY 14 REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED FOR IT, AND I DID.

IT WAS THE SAFER COMMUNITIES ACT.

IT WAS GUN SAFETY ACT.

I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO INTO THE DETAILS HERE, BUT IT REALLY DID, NOT ONLY PROTECTED SCHOOLS BUT IT WAS ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR YOUNGER PEOPLE AND THE REST.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM GUN VIOLENCE, YOU DON'T DEFUND THE POLICE, YOU DON'T TAKE $200,000 OUT OF THEIR BUDGET.

HE JUST SAYS I'M LYING.

I'M NOT LYING, THAT'S WHAT CHANNEL 5 SAID, THAT'S WHAT THE HEAD OF POLICE UNION SAYS.

EVERYBODY KNOWS IT, IT WAS IN THE PAPER.

HE'S THE ONE THAT VOTED TO DEFUND OUR POLICE.

>> MAY: MR. LANDSMAN, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

>> LANDSMAN: YEAH.

NOT ONLY IS THAT NOT TRUE, I VOTED FOR EVERY POLICE AND FIRE BUDGET.

WE'VE INCREASED THE POLICE BUDGET BY $20 MILLION.

I LED THE EFFORT TO GET THE SECOND RECRUIT CLASS.

HE KNOWS THAT.

THERE IS PROBABLY NO GREATER PLACE CONGRESS HAS FAILED THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, OUR CHILDREN, OUR SCHOOLS THAN ON THIS ISSUE OF GUNS.

AND IT IS BECAUSE THE GUN MANUFACTURERS WHO MAKE SO MUCH MONEY OFF THESE AR-15s AND OTHER WEAPONS, THEY GIVE A TON OF MONEY TO MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.

CONGRESSMAN CHABOT GETS MORE MONEY FROM THE GUN LOBBY THAN ANY OTHER MEMBER OF CONGRESS, EXCEPT FOR ONE.

HE'S NOT GOING TO STAND UP TO THE GUN LOBBY.

HE'S NOT GOING TO BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS.

THE PARENTS IN THIS DISTRICT, WHETHER IT'S THE CITY OF CINCINNATI, MASON, KENWOOD, SYCAMORE, IT DOESN'T -- ANYWHERE, PEOPLE WANT THESE GUNS GONE.

HE IS NOT GOING TO DO IT.

HE'S HAD 27 YEARS, ALMOST 3 DECADES TO DEAL WITH GUN VIOLENCE, THE FLOODING OF GUNS INTO OUR COMMUNITY, AND HE HAS FAILED EVERY SINGLE TIME.

HE CONTINUES TO LET US DOWN.

I WILL AS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS BAN ASSAULT WEAPONS.

I WILL GO AFTER THESE GUNS AND I WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS TO GET THESE GUNS OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

HE WON'T.

I WILL.

>> MAY: YOU HAVE 30 SECOND, MR. CHABOT.

>> CHABOT: YEAH, WE HAVE A SECOND AMENDMENT.

IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION, NOT THE FIRST BUT IT IS SECOND, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION APPARENTLY.

PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO DEFEND THEIR FAMILIES IN THEIR OWN HOMES, AND THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO A LOT MORE OF THAT IF WE DON'T SUPPORT THE POLICE.

WHICH HE'S NOT FOR AND THAT'S WHY THEY'VE ENDORSED ME AND NOT HIM.

HE ALSO IS THE ONE THAT WANTS TO GET RID OF CASH BAIL SO THAT PEOPLE AFTER THEY COMMIT CRIMES AND WAITING FOR TRIAL, EVEN IF THEY'RE VIOLENT, GET THEM BACK ON THE STREETS.

THIS IS HAPPENING IN NEW YORK AND CHICAGO, HE WANTS IT TO HAPPEN IN CINCINNATI.

HE WANTS TO BE UNSAFE LIKE IT IS IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.

>> MAY: THANK YOU, MR. CHABOT.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO A SITUATION THAT AFFECTS US ALL, CLIMATE CHANGE.

AND THIS QUESTION WILL BE FOR MR. LANDSMAN ASKED BY NICK SWARTSELL OF WVXU.

>> SWARTSELL: COUNCILMEMBER, 70% OF ADULTS IN OHIO'S FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT BELIEVE GLOBAL WARMING IS HAPPENING, AND 62% SAY CONGRESS SHOULD DO MORE TO ADDRESS GLOBAL WARMING.

WHAT CAN CONGRESS DO TO ADDRESS THIS INTERNATIONAL CRISIS ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING DECADES OF INACTION SO FAR?

>> LANDSMAN: YES, DECADES OF INACTION.

CONGRESS HAS GOT TO ACT.

WE ARE FEELING IT HERE IN SOUTHWEST OHIO.

WE JUST HAD TO SPEND ALMOST $20 MILLION TO REPAIR THE RETAINING WALL AND THE HILLSIDE ALONG COLUMBIA PARKWAY.

THAT'S BECAUSE OF THESE SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS.

AND EVERYBODY IS DEALING WITH SEWER BACK UPS, BECAUSE OF THESE SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS.

AND SO, CONGRESS HAS JUST TAKEN A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT STEP IN DEALING WITH THIS CLIMATE CRISIS, AND DOING IT IN A WAY WHERE WE'RE CREATING REALLY GOOD PAYING JOBS.

HE'S AGAINST THAT.

AND IT IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS ON SOMETHING AND HE BECOMES THIS ROADBLOCK.

AND HE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS, IF NOT DECADES.

HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO VOTE AGAINST US AND THE THINGS THAT WE NEED, LIKE REAL ACTION ON THIS ISSUE ON CLIMATE, UNTIL WE VOTE AGAINST HIM.

>> MAY: MR. CHABOT, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

>> CHABOT: AS A FATHER AND GRANDFATHER I BELIEVE OUR KIDS AND GRAND KIDS DESERVE TO BREATHE CLEAN AIR AND DRINK CLEAN WATER AND I'M FOR COMMON SENSE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS.

WE MADE GREAT STRIDES IN THIS COUNTRY, MUCH THROUGH GOVERNMENT/PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERSHIPS, BUT IT IS MOSTLY BEEN THROUGH THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

AND RELATIVE TO CLIMATE CHANGE, YES, I'M FOR REDUCING CARBON EMISSIONS AND CARBON OUTPUT, AND WE'RE MAKING CONSIDERABLE PROGRESS THERE AS WELL.

I'M THE PRINCIPLE COSPONSOR IN THE HOUSE, ALONG WITH ROB PORTMAN OUR SENATOR, OF THE TROPICAL RAIN FOREST AND CORAL REEF BILL, WHICH HAS A LOT TO DO WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.

AGAIN, WHEN YOU HAVE A MINUTE, YOU DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO INTO THE DETAILS ABOUT THIS STUFF.

AND THE TRILLION TREES LEGISLATION, I'M A COSPONSOR OF THAT.

IF CAN YOU GET ENOUGH TREES ON OUR PLANET, AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT MORE.

BECAUSE IN SOME COUNTRIES THEY ARE CHOPPING DOWN WAY TOO MANY OF THEM, WAY TOO FAST THAT AFFECTS THE AIR WE BREATHE.

WE CAN ACTUALLY SEQUESTER A LOT OF THAT CARBON SO THAT IT IS ISN'T CAUSING THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE GOING TO CHALLENGE US INTO THE FUTURE.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT I'M FOR COMMON SENSE STUFF.

THIS GUY'S FOR AOC'S RADICAL GREEN NEW DEAL POLICIES WHICH ARE GOING TO BANKRUPT THE COUNTRY, KILL THE JOBS, AND COST US SO MUCH IN TAXES THAT WE'LL NEVER AFFORD IT.

IN FACT, HE LIKES AOC'S POLICIES SO WELL THAT HE TOLD HER, "KEEP UP THE FIGHT.

KEEP UP WHAT YOU ARE DOING."

THIS IS THE SOCIALIST CONGRESS WOMAN FROM NEW YORK.

>> MAY: MR. LANDSMAN, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.

>> LANDSMAN: YEAH, AGAIN, I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GREEN NEW DEAL IS.

HE IS OBSESSED WITH IT AND GOING TO TRY TO WIN ANOTHER ELECTION BY JUST SAYING GREEN NEW DEAL, GREEN NEW DEAL, GREEN NEW DEAL.

HE JUST VOTED, SO IF HE IS FOR DRINKING WATER, CLEAN DRINKING WATER, AND IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT, HE JUST VOTED AGAINST A BILL THAT INCLUDED THE LARGEST INVESTMENT EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES IN GUESS WHAT, CLEAN DRINKING WATER.

>> MAY: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE NOW TO HEALTH CARE.

AND OUR FIRST QUESTION IN THIS CATEGORY WILL BE ASKED BY NICK SWARTSELL OF WVXU, AND IT GOES TO MR. CHABOT.

>> SWARTSELL: CONGRESSMAN, YOU HAVE BOTH MADE YOUR POSITION ON ABORTION CLEAR.

MR. LANDSMAN SUPPORTS ACCESS TO ABORTION WHILE YOU WANT TO PROHIBIT ABORTION IN MOST, IF NOT ALL CASES.

THE OVERTURNING OF ROE V WADE THIS YEAR HAS BROUGHT A BROADER DEBATE ABOUT REPRODUCTIVE HEALTHCARE TO CONGRESS.

WOULD YOU SUPPORT LEGISLATION BANNING IN VITRO FERTILIZATION AND FORMS OF BIRTH CONTROL TO PREVENT PREGNANCY AFTER CONTRACEPTION, OR LEGISLATION GUARANTEEING ACCESS TO IVF AND BIRTH CONTROL?

>> CHABOT: I AM PRO-LIFE AND DO I BELIEVE VERY MUCH THAT WE CAN PROTECT AND LOVE AND CARE FOR BOTH MOTHER AND THE UNBORN CHILD.

I THINK AS A COMPASSIONATE NATION THAT OUGHT TO BE OUR GOAL.

AND A LOT OF COMMON SENSE THINGS THAT WE CAN AGREE ON.

BUT NOT THE LEGISLATION, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT MR. LANDSMAN SUPPORTED THAT PELOSI WAS ABLE TO GET TO THROUGH CONGRESS.

THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING UP THERE, WHICH ALLOWED ABORTION AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON, ALL THE WAY UP AS LATE AS YOU WANT TO, 7 MONTHS, 8 MONTHS, 9 MONTHS, UP TO THE DAY OF BIRTH ABORTION.

TO ME THAT'S WAY TOO FAR.

HE MENTIONED ABOUT EXCEPTIONS.

I INTRODUCED AND PASSED A BAN ON PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION YEARS AGO TO ALL OF THE LAND NOW.

MOST DEMOCRATS ACTUALLY SUPPORTED IT AS WELL.

AND WE HAD EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE, INCEST, AND LIFE OF THE MOTHER.

BUT WHAT PEOPLE TALK TO ME ABOUT WHEN TALKING TO ME ABOUT THINGS, THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE FOR THEIR KIDS AND HOW MUCH THE GAS IS GOING TO COST AND WHETHER THEY ARE SAFE IN THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND THAT'S MAINLY WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M FOCUSED ON.

>> MAY: MR. LANDSMAN, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

>> LANDSMAN: YEAH, WHEN PEOPLE GO TO VOTE, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT, PLEASE KNOW THAT I WILL AS YOUR MEMBER OF CONGRESS VOTE TO CODIFY ROE, MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM.

I WANT THAT FOR MY DAUGHTER.

I KNOW YOU WANT IT FOR YOUR CHILDREN.

AND I WILL VOTE TO PROTECT CONTRACEPTION.

I WILL VOTE TO PROTECTS IVF.

I WILL VOTE TO PROTECT MARRIAGE EQUALITY.

THIS IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND CONGRESSMAN CHABOT.

CONGRESSMAN CHABOT HAS SPENT HIS ENTIRE CAREER WORKING TO UNDERMINE THESE BASIC FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS.

HE BELIEVES THAT POLITICIANS AND GOVERNMENT SHOULD MAKE THESE DECISIONS NOT WOMEN AND THEIR DOCTORS.

AND HE HAS SAID IN EVERY RIGHT TO LIFE QUESTIONNAIRE THAT HE SUPPORTS A FULL BAN, NO EXCEPTIONS, RAPE, INCEST, THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER.

I BELIEVE THE SAME IS TRUE FOR CONTRACEPTION AND IVF.

HE'S EITHER LYING TO THEM OR HE'S LYING TO YOU.

EITHER WAY HE'S LYING.

HE SHOULD COME CLEAN AND JUST SAY THAT HE SUPPORTS A FULL BAN ON ABORTION, NO EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE, INCEST, OR THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER.

THERE ARE TWO BILLS IN CONGRESS RIGHT NOW WITH HIS NAME ON IT THAT WILL DO THAT.

THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY BE INCREDIBLE DANGEROUS AND IT WILL KILL OUR ECONOMY.

>> MAY: MR. CHABOT, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.

>> CHABOT: YEAH, A LITTLE WHILE AGO, MR. LANDSMAN JUST MADE A STATEMENT ABOUT IT WAS THE LARGEST INVESTMENT IN HISTORY.

SO, HE WOULD BE FOR IT, BECAUSE IT IS THE LARGEST INVESTMENT.

THE WORD INVESTMENT IS THE DEMOCRAT'S, THE LIBERAL, THE RADICAL WORD THEY SAY NOWADAYS FOR SPENDING, MEANING YOUR TAX DOLLARS.

SO, SINCE IT IS THE LARGEST EVER SPENDING, HE'S AUTOMATICALLY FOR IT.

THAT'S HOW WE GOT A $31 TRILLION DEBT HANGING OVER OUR HEADS.

THAT'S WHY I'M FOR LESS SPENDING, REASONABLE POLICIES, LOWER TAXES, AND HE'S FOR JUST THE OPPOSITE.

>> MAY: WE'RE GOING TO STICK WITH HEALTH CARE.

OUR NEXT QUESTION GOES TO COUNCILMEMBER LANDSMAN FROM LARRY SEWARD WITH WCPO 9 NEWS.

>> SEWARD: THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER, YOU SAY IF ELECTED IN CONGRESS YOU WILL LOWER HEALTH CARE PREMIUMS, TRY TO ELIMINATE SURPRISE BILLING, LOWERING PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES.

SPECIFIC TO MENTAL HEALTH THOUGH, CHILDREN'S DEFENSE FUND RESEARCH SHOWS THAT OHIO LACKS A UNIFORM SYSTEM OF CARE FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, DESPITE 20% OF A CHILD'S WELL BEING BEING POTENTIALLY IMPACTED BY CLINICAL INTERVENTION.

HOW DO YOU PLAN TO INCREASE ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH AND DO SO IN A BIPARTISAN MANNER?

>> LANDSMAN: THIS IS ONE AREA WHERE THERE IS REAL BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR MENTAL HEALTH.

AND IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE INVESTMENTS, WHICH MEANS SPENDING MONEY.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE VAST MAJORITY OF YOUR VOTERS ARE.

THEY WANT THESE INVESTMENTS.

THEY ARE SO FRUSTRATED WITH THEIR MEMBER OF CONGRESS CONSISTENTLY VOTING AGAINST THEM, VOTING AGAINST THEIR HEALTH CARE.

HAD HE BEEN SUCCESSFUL, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN THIS DISTRICT WOULD HAVE LOST HEALTH CARE, HAD HE BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

HE CONTINUES TO VOTE AGAINST LOWERING PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES.

AND ONE OF THE CRUELEST VOTES IS HIS REFUSAL TO CAP INSULIN COSTS SO THAT CHILDREN WHO NEED INSULIN, THEIR PARENTS CAN AFFORD IT.

BECAUSE CONGRESS AND FOLKS LIKES CONGRESSMAN CHABOT WON'T STAND UP TO THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES AND JUST SAY, "HEY, INSULIN WILL NOT GO HIGHER THAN $35 A MONTH."

I WILL CAP INSULIN.

HE WON'T.

>> MAY: MR. CHABOT, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

>> CHABOT: I'M VERY MUCH FOR AND HAVE SUPPORTED MENTAL HEALTH CARE.

IT OUGHT TO BE TREATED JUST LIKE ALL HEALTH CARE.

THAT'S WHY I WAS AN EARLY SUPPORTER OF PARITY, MEANING BASICALLY MENTAL HEALTH GETS COVERED BY ALL OTHER HEALTH INSURANCES.

IN FACT, I THINK THAT ALL AMERICANS OUGHT TO HAVE ACCESS TO QUALITY AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE.

A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE THOUGH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON PREEXISTING CONDITIONS.

THE DEMOCRATS IN THE LAST ELECTION WERE RUNNING ALL THESE ADS SAYING WE WERE OPPOSED TO THAT, WHEN WE WERE FOR THE AMERICAN HEALTHCARE ACT, WHICH INCLUDED PREEXISTING CONDITIONS.

OBAMACARE DID TOO, BUT SPENT A LOT MORE AND WASTED A LOT MORE AND NOBODY IS SATISFIED -- WELL, MAYBE SOME PEOPLE ARE, MOST PEOPLE AREN'T SATISFIED WITH IT.

I THOUGHT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVED BETTER THAN OBAMACARE.

WE ARE BOTH FOR PREEXISTING CONDITION COVERAGE.

MR. LANDSMAN HAS SAID A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS THAT JUST HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED.

HE TALKED ABOUT INSULIN.

AGAIN, HE SAID THIS IN A COUPLE OTHERS.

HE KEEPS SAYING INSULIN, INSULIN.

I'M ALL FOR PEOPLE HAVING ACCESS TO INSULIN AND MAKING IT AFFORDABLE AS POSSIBLE.

TYPICALLY THERE'S A DEMOCRAT BILL ON SOMETHING AND A REPUBLICAN BILL.

THE DEMOCRAT'S IT THROW ALL THE MONEY THAT YOU WANT, WASTEFUL THIS AND THAT AND GOLD PLATED, BECAUSE IT IS YOUR MONEY.

OKAY?

THE REPUBLICAN BILL WAS MORE RESPONSIBLE, IT WAS PAID FOR.

UNFORTUNATELY, DEMOCRATS ARE IN THE MAJORITY, SO THEIRS IS THE ONE THAT PASSED.

I AM FOR PEOPLE MAKING SURE THEY GET THEIR INSULIN.

AGAIN, HE USED THE TERM INVESTMENTS AGAIN, INVESTMENTS.

THAT MEANS SPENDING.

IT MEANS YOUR TAX DOLLARS AND HE'S VOTED TO RAISE OUR TAXES 8 TIMES IN CINCINNATI, AT A TIME HE WASN'T PAYING HIS OWN TAXES.

>> MAY: MR. LANDSMAN, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.

>> LANDSMAN: INVESTMENTS DOES MEAN SPENDING.

AND OF COURSE I PAY MY TAXES, THAT IS ABSURD.

THE ISSUE OF INSULIN IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ONE BECAUSE HE SAYS WE'RE NAIVE.

TO THOSE WHO THINK HOW DID YOU VOTE AGAINST CAPPING THE COST OF INSULIN, HE SAYS WE'RE NAIVE BECAUSE IT WAS A REPUBLICAN BILL AND HE WANTED THAT, BUT THEN THE DEMOCRATIC BILL.

IT DIDN'T GET PASSED BECAUSE OF THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE.

IT WAS A STRAIGHT UP: DO YOU SUPPORT CAPPING THE COST OF INSULIN AT $35 A MONTH?

HE VOTED NO.

I BELIEVE THAT'S CRUEL.

>> MAY: OUR NEXT QUESTION IS FROM KATIE EAGAN WITH CINCINNATI USA REGIONAL CHAMBER.

IT GOES TO CONGRESSMAN CHABOT.

>> EAGAN: CONGRESSMAN CHABOT, THE CINCINNATI CHAMBER'S STATE OF REGION REPORT RECENTLY INCLUDED DATA SHOWING THAT OUR REGION LAGS THE UNITED STATES AS A WHOLE WHEN IT COMES TO LIFE EXPECTANCY.

MORE OVER, THERE IS A 26 YEAR LIFE EXPECTANCY GAP BETWEEN SOME COMMUNITIES IN THE CINCINNATI REGION.

PLEASE TALK ABOUT WHY THIS IS SUCH A CHALLENGE FOR OUR REGION AND HOW YOU BELIEVE WE CAN SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

>> CHABOT: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION.

AND EVEN THOUGH MR. LANDSMAN THINKS THIS IS THE WORST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, I THINK IT IS THE BEST, WHETHER YOU ARE IN THE CITY, WHETHER YOU'RE IN ONE OF THE DISADVANTAGED NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH MANY OF THEM I HAVE HAD IN MY DISTRICT.

THEY MAY NOT VOTE FOR ME AS MUCH BECAUSE THEY MAY BE MORE DEMOCRATIC AND I'M A REPUBLICAN, BUT I REPRESENT THOSE FOLKS AND I HELP THEM IF THEY HAVE ANY NEED.

WE CONSTANTLY TRY TO HELP EVERYBODY IN THIS DISTRICT.

I ALWAYS HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE SOME AREAS THAT ARE DISADVANTAGED, IT OFTEN TIMES COMES DOWN TO WHAT THEY CAN AFFORD.

AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FOLKS DO HAVE ACCESS TO QUALITY AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE, WHETHER IT IS THE CLINIC OR WHETHER IT'S A PRIVATE SECTOR OR WHETHER IT IS REIMBURSEMENT, WE HAVE TO DO THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY, A LOT OF PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN IN THE CITY.

MR. LANDSMAN IS ON CITY COUNCIL, THAT'S HIS RECORD AS LEAST FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

HE KEEPS ATTACKING MY RECORD, BUT HE'S ON COUNCIL RIGHT NOW.

AND A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS I HEAR FROM ARE THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS SCREWED UP ON.

THAT'S MR. LANDSMAN.

>> MAY: MR. LANDSMAN, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

>> LANDSMAN: I THINK THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE GAP IN LIFE EXPECTANCY.

I JUST, FOR FOLKS WATCHING AT HOME, HE DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION, DIDN'T COME CLOSE TO ANSWERING QUESTION.

HIS WILLINGNESS TO MAKE THINGS UP KNOWS NO BOUNDS.

NOBODY HERE OR WATCHING AT HOME THINKS I SAID THAT THIS DISTRICT IS ANYTHING OTHER THAN A GREAT DISTRICT.

HE'S GOING TO KEEP SAYING THAT, I HAVE NO IDEA WHY.

BUT IT IS A WAY TO DISTRACT YOU FROM THINGS LIKE THIS.

THERE IS A LIFE EXPECTANCY DEFERENTIAL, AND IT IS TERRIBLE.

AND IT IS BECAUSE WE DO NOT AS A COUNTRY, AS CONGRESS, AND HE'S BEEN THERE LONGER THAN ALMOST ANYONE, THEY DO NOT INVEST IN HIGH QUALITY PRENATAL CARE, SO EVERY SINGLE MOM DOESN'T GET THE CARE SHE NEEDS.

WE DON'T INVEST IN CHILD CARE FOR EVERY SINGLE FAMILY.

WE DON'T INVEST IN PRESCHOOL.

WE DO IN THE CITY OF CINCINNATI BECAUSE OF MY LEADERSHIP AND THE LEADERSHIP OF OTHERS.

WE DO NOT INVEST IN SAFE, QUALITY HOUSING.

WE DON'T MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS HEALTH CARE.

WE DON'T MAKE REALLY SIMPLE DECISIONS, LIKE LET'S CAP THE COST OF INSULIN.

WE CONTINUE TO SEE CONGRESS, AND IN PARTICULAR CONGRESSMAN CHABOT, VOTING AGAINST US, VOTING AGAINST ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WOULD DRAMATICALLY IMPROVE PEOPLE'S LIVES.

AND HE'S GOING TO KEEP DOING THAT.

HE'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

HE'S GOING TO KEEP VOTING AGAINST US, AS I SAID, UNTIL WE VOTE AGAINST HIM.

>> MAY: CONGRESSMAN CHABOT, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.

>> CHABOT: HE SAID I HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.

I HAVE NOT BEEN THERE AS LONG AS NANCY PELOSI, HIS FORMER BOSS BY THE WAY, HE USED TO WORK FOR HER, OR THE PERSON I ASSUME HE VOTED FOR PRESIDENT, THAT'S JOE BIDEN.

AND HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE WORST, WHERE HE SAID THIS IS THE WORST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

WE'VE GOT THE ARTICLE, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH THE PRESS OR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO SEE IT.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LIFE EXPECTANCY, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A LONG LIFE EXPECTANCY IF ARE YOU ARE DEFUNDING THE POLICE WHICH HE VOTED FOR.

CHANNEL 5 SAID WHAT HE DID WAS THE DEFINITION OF DEFUNDING THE POLICE.

>> LANDSMAN: I BELIEVE [INDISCERNIBLE] >> MAY: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON NOW TO THE TOPIC ELECTORAL INTEGRITY.

OUR FIRST QUESTION GOES TO COUNCILMEMBER LANDSMAN.

IT IS FROM NICK SWARTSELL WITH WVXU.

>> SWARTSELL: COUNCILMEMBER, A NPR POLL EARLIER THIS YEAR FOUND THAT 64% OF AMERICANS BELIEVE U.S. DEMOCRACY IS IN CRISIS AND AT RISK OF FAILING, AND 2/3 OF REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THE FALSE CLAIM OF VOTER FRAUD HELPED JOE BIDEN WIN THE 2020 ELECTION.

IF ELECTED HOW CAN YOU AND CONGRESS RESTORE CONFIDENCE IN DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS?

>> LANDSMAN: SUCH AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.

I BELIEVE THIS IS AN EXISTENTIAL ELECTION BECAUSE OF OUR DEMOCRACY AND BECAUSE OF CORE FREEDOMS.

AND ON JANUARY 6 WHEN THIS VIOLENT MOB ATTACKED CAPITOL, THEY WANTED ONE THING, THEY WANTED CONGRESS TO VOTE AGAINST CERTIFYING THE ELECTION.

REPUBLICAN BRAD WENSTRUP DID THE RIGHT THING.

HE WENT IN THERE AND HE VOTED AS PART OF THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER.

CONGRESSMAN CHABOT ON THE OTHER HAND VOTED WITH TRUMP AND THE INSURRECTIONISTS AND VOTED AGAINST CERTIFYING THE ELECTION, TRIED TO OVERTURN AN ELECTION.

NOW, CONGRESS THEN TURNS AROUND AND SAYS, "LOOK, WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX IT."

AND THEY TRY TO PASS THE ELECTORAL REFORM ACT, WHICH HE VOTES AGAINST.

HE VOTES AGAINST IN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO CIRCUMVENT OR TRY TO STOP THE NEXT COUP.

THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM.

IF THERE WAS ANY DOUBT THAT HE IS ISN'T PART OF THE CHAOS AND EXTREMISM THAT WE'RE TIRED OF AND THAT SCARES US, THIS IS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF WHY WE HAVE TO BE DONE WITH CONGRESSMAN CHABOT.

>> MAY: CONGRESSMAN CHABOT, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

>> CHABOT: YEAH, WE ABSOLUTELY NEED ELECTION INTEGRITY.

FORTUNATELY, IN OHIO WE'VE GOT A GOOD SECRETARY OF STATE.

WE KNOW THAT OUR ELECTIONS FOR THE MOST PART HAVE BEEN VERY SOLID HERE.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT THE SAME IN SOME OTHER STATES AND THEY NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB.

AND I CONDEMNED WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6, I DID THEN AND I CONTINUE TO CONDEMN IT.

THE PEOPLE THAT WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR BREAKING INTO THE CAPITOL, ANY VIOLENCE, THEY OUGHT TO BE PROSECUTE TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW AND THEY ARE BEING PROSECUTED.

SO, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING.

BUT -- AND I ALSO WOULD SAY THAT I HAVE BEEN ASKED DO YOU ACCEPT IS JOE BIDEN PRESIDENT?

YES, HE'S DEFINITELY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE REMINDED THAT HE'S PRESIDENT EVERY DAY WHEN WE GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND SEE WHEN PRICES USED TO BE LOW, THEY ARE NOT LOW ANY MORE.

WHEN YOU FILL UP YOUR GAS TANK HOW HIGH GAS HAS BECOME.

THAT'S HURT SO MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

MR. LANDSMAN REALLY DOESN'T CARE ABOUT, HE DOESN'T CARE HOW HIGH INFLATION IS, BECAUSE WHEN HE WAS ASKED ABOUT INFLATION AND NANCY PELOSI AND THOSE POLICIES, HE SAID, "WHAT DOES IT MATTER?"

I MEAN IT MAY NOT MATTER TO HIM WHEN YOU MAKE ALMOST $400,000 A YEAR AND GET A PPP LOAN OF $16,000 THAT MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE NEEDED.

BUT IT MATTERS TO FOLKS IN THIS COMMUNITY AND MANY NEIGHBORHOODS WHO REALLY A COUPLE DOLLARS IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN GO THERE OR WHETHER YOU CAN BY THAT BOOK OR THAT PIECE OF CLOTHING FOR YOUR KIDS.

SO, THAT'S PRETTY IMPORTANT STUFF AND WE OUGHT TO TAKE IT SERIOUS, IT MATTERS.

>> MAY: MR. LANDSMAN, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.

>> LANDSMAN: CONGRESSMAN CHABOT VOTED TO OVERTURN AN ELECTION.

HE IS TRYING TO DISTRACT YOU FROM THAT FACT.

IT IS A DISQUALIFYING MOMENT FOR HIM.

NOW THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENCES.

I BELIEVE HIS POSITION ON ABORTION IS EXTREME AND DANGEROUS.

I BELIEVE HIS POSITION ON THE ECONOMY IS INCREDIBLE PROBLEMATIC.

I CAN'T BELIEVE HE VOTED AGAINST THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL.

BUT TO TRY TO OVERTURN AN ELECTION, DISQUALIFYING.

>> MAY: THIS IS OUR FINAL QUESTION OF THE DEBATE AND IT IS ABOUT IMMIGRATION AND THE ECONOMY.

IT WILL BE ASKED BY KATIE EAGAN OF THE CHAMBER AND IT WILL BE ASKED FIRST TO CONGRESSMAN CHABOT.

>> EAGAN: CONGRESSMAN CHABOT, THE CINCINNATI CHAMBER'S CENTER FOR RESEARCH AND DATA HAS RELEASED DATA SHOWING THAT OVER 4,000 INDIVIDUALS MOVE TO THE CINCINNATI REGION FROM ASIA ALONE EACH YEAR.

WE KNOW THAT OUR REGION RELIES ON IMMIGRATION TO GROW OUR POPULATION AND ECONOMY AND IT IS CRITICAL TO THE SUCCESS OF OUR BUSINESSES.

WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO MOVE THE CONVERSATION ON IMMIGRATION IN A PRODUCTIVE DIRECTION IN THE NEXT CONGRESS?

>> CHABOT: THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.

AND I'M VERY PRO IMMIGRATION, LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

WE HAD OUR BORDERS UNDER CONTROL.

THEY ARE NOT UNDER CONTROL NOW.

WE HAVE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF GOT AWAYS.

WE'VE GOT FENTANYL THAT'S COMING IN.

THE CARTELS ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE.

THEY LITERALLY PUT SOMETHING AROUND SOMEBODY'S WRIST SO THEY KNOW WHICH CARTEL THAT THEY OWE THE MONEY TO.

AND HOW DO THEY PAY THEM BACK?

CRIME IN OUR COUNTRY, PREYING ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

THAT'S NOT EVERY PERSON THAT COMES OVER, BUT THAT'S FAR TOO MANY OF THE ILLEGALS.

AND HE'S BASICALLY FOR THESE OPEN BORDERS, SANCTUARY CITIES, WHICH GUYS LIKE HIM MADE CINCINNATI A SANCTUARY CITY SO THEY DON'T COOPERATE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.

HE TALKS ABOUT DISQUALIFYING.

I'll TELL YOU WHAT'S DISQUALIFYING, IT'S WHEN A JUDGE TELLS YOU THAT YOU LIED TO THE PUBLIC, THAT YOU OUGHT TO RESIGN, AND THAT NOBODY SHOULD EVER VOTE FOR YOU AGAIN.

AND NOW HE'S RUNNING FOR CONGRESS.

THIS WAS A JUDGE, A HIGHLY RESPECTED HAMILTON COUNTY JUDGE THAT SAID THAT TO HIM.

IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT'S DISQUALIFYING, I WOULD CONSIDER THAT DISQUALIFYING.

>> MAY: MR. LANDSMAN, YOU HAVE 90 SECONDS.

>> LANDSMAN: YEAH, THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS CHAOS AND EXTREMISM AND THE FIGHTING GOTTEN US ALL SO FRUSTRATED, BECAUSE THIS IS A CHALLENGING ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION.

AND PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES, REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS, EVERYONE TALKS ABOUT COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM.

THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

AND WE NEED LEADERS WHO ARE GOING TO DO WHAT ROB PORTMAN AND OTHERS DID WHEN THEY TOOK ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEY GOT A BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE BILL DONE.

AND IT IS GOING TO HELP US GET A NEW BRIDGE, FIX THE WESTERN HILLS VIADUCT, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

HE VOTED AGAINST THAT.

I SUSPECT THE SAME WILL BE TRUE IF THERE IS A BIPARTISAN COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION BILL.

HE CERTAINLY WON'T BE PART OF NEGOTIATING IT.

I WILL.

THAT'S THE KIND OF LEADERSHIP YOU WILL GET FROM ME BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE GOTTEN FROM ME OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

I LED ON BIG THINGS BY BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

WE NEED MORE STABILITY AT THE BORDER WHICH MEANS MORE OFFICERS, MORE JUDGES.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN MAKE HAPPEN.

THERE IS CONSENSUS THERE, BUT WE NEED REAL LEADERS, PEOPLE WHO WILL WORK TOGETHER TO GET BIG THINGS DONE, WHICH IS AGAIN WHAT I HAVE DONE HERE CITY OF CINCINNATI.

HE, UNFORTUNATELY, HAS BEEN PART OF CONGRESS FOR DECADES.

HE'S HAD SEVERAL, MANY, MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO FIX THIS AND OTHER ISSUES.

HE HASN'T.

HE'S NOW PART OF THE PROBLEM AND WE NEED CHANGE.

>> MAY: MR. CHABOT, YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.

>> CHABOT: IF THERE IS GOING TO BE CHANGE IT CERTAINLY ISN'T THIS GUY.

I'D SAY HE'S PROBABLY THE LEAST IMPRESSIVE OF ALL THE DEMOCRATS THAT HAVE RUN, AND THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT FROM AFTAB, STEVE DRIEHAUS, TO CRANLEY TWICE, ROXANNE QUALLS, A WHOLE BUNCH OF THEM.

I'D SAY HE'S PROBABLY THE LEAST IMPRESSIVE FOR A COUPLE REASONS.

ONE THING IS THE FACT THAT HE THROWS AROUND THE WORD LIAR.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES IN THE PAST TWO DAYS HE'S CALLED ME A LIAR.

BUT, YOU KNOW, HE THROWS IT AROUND LIKE OTHER PEOPLE WOULD SAY HAVE A GOOD DAY, WHEN IN FACT HE'S PROJECTING IT ONTO ME, BECAUSE HE IS LYING.

EVEN A JUDGE IN ONE OF OUR COURTROOMS TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS A LIAR.

>> MAY: THAT IS THE FINAL QUESTION OF THIS EVENING'S DEBATE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE'RE NOW GOING TO MOVE INTO CLOSING STATEMENTS.

EACH OF YOU HAS TWO MINUTES.

WE'LL BEGIN ONCE AGAIN WITH COUNCILMEMBER LANDSMAN.

YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

>> LANDSMAN: ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU AGAIN.

AND IF ELIJAH IS STILL WATCHING, I LOVE YOU, BUDDY.

AND I WISH I WAS THERE.

THOUGH, I'M REALLY GLAD TO BE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN THIS, WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A GOOD FIGHT, BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS ON THE LINE IN THIS ELECTION.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE BEEN IN A POSITION TO HOLD CONGRESS ACCOUNTABLE SINCE JANUARY 6.

SINCE THAT AWFUL MOMENT, AND HIS, I BELIEVE, DISQUALIFYING DECISION TO TRY TO OVERTURN AN ELECTION.

WE GET TO HOLD CONGRESS AND CONGRESSMAN CHABOT ACCOUNTABLE.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HOLD CONGRESS ACCOUNTABLE SINCE THE SUPREME COURT STRIPPED AWAY BASIC FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS FROM WOMEN AND GIRLS.

WE CAN HOLD CONGRESS AND CONGRESSMAN CHABOT ACCOUNTABLE AND MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY WHO WANTS A FEDERAL ABORTION BAN DOESN'T GO BACK TO CONGRESS.

AND WE CAN HOLD CONGRESS AND CONGRESSMAN CHABOT ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL OF THE VOTES, ALL OF THESE VOTES THAT HAVE UNDERMINED OUR WORK HERE, WHETHER IT IS VOTES AGAINST INFRASTRUCTURE, CAPPING INSULIN, GETTING COSTS DOWN, WAGES UP.

AS I MENTIONED, I'M A FATHER, A FORMER TEACHER, I LED A BIPARTISAN BIG COALITION EFFORT TO PASS THE PRESCHOOL PROMISE TO MAKE SURE EVERY CHILD HAS ACCESS TO TWO YEARS OF QUALITY PRESCHOOL SO THAT PRESCHOOL WAS AFFORDABLE FOR EVERY FAMILY.

I CUT PROPERTY TAXES EVERY YEAR, FIVE TIMES IN A ROW.

I INVESTED IN POLICE AND FIRE EVERY YEAR, FIVE BUDGETS IN A ROW.

AND I HAVE WORKED REALLY HARD TO RESTORE TRUST IN CITY HALL.

THAT'S WHY I WAS OVERWHELMINGLY REELECTED LAST YEAR.

PEOPLE TRUST ME.

I'M HERE.

I HAVE BEEN ROOTED IN THIS COMMUNITY SOLVING PROBLEMS.

HE'S PART OF THE PROBLEM NOW, AND AGAIN, HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO VOTE AGAINST US UNTIL WE VOTE AGAINST HIM.

>> MAY: CONGRESSMAN CHABOT, YOU NOW HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR YOUR CLOSING REMARKS.

>> CHABOT: I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING THE PANEL AND THE FOLKS THAT PUT ON THE DEBATE.

I WANT TO THANK THOSE AT HOME THAT MAY BE WATCHING THIS NOW OR PERHAPS IN THE FUTURE.

I HAVE DEDICATED MY LIFE TO BRINGING RESULTS BACK TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS DISTRICT, THINGS LIKE THE PPP, PAYCHECK PROTECTION PROGRAM.

WHEN I WAS THE LEAD REPUBLICAN AND WORKED IN A BIPARTISAN MANNER WITH THE DEMOCRATS, WHICH HAVE I ALWAYS DONE.

I ALWAYS WORK WITH THE DEMOCRATS.

THAT'S WHY WHEN THE UNIVERSITY VIRGINIA AND VANDERBILT HAVE DONE STUDIES ON WHO ARE THE MOST EFFECTIVE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, AND THERE IS 435 OF US, I HAVE COME IN THE TOP 10 MOST EFFECTIVE.

THEY HAVE DONE THIS IN THE LAST TEN YEARS THREE TIMES.

I WAS IN TOP TEN ALL THREE TIMES BECAUSE THEY KNOW I'M A REPUBLICAN AND A PRETTY CONSERVATIVE ONE, AND I WORK WITH DEMOCRATS.

WE GOT THE PPP PROGRAM PASSED, AND OUR DISTRICT, THERE ARE 16 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS IN OHIO, WE GOT MORE MONEY, ALMOST $3 BILLION, MORE SMALL BUSINESSES THAN ANY OTHER CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT GOT LOANS, OVER 27,000.

ONE OF THOSE WAS MR. LANDSMAN WHO PROBABLY DIDN'T NEED IT, BUT HE TOOK IT BECAUSE IT WAS THERE.

AND THEN MOST IMPORTANTLY, 247,000 FAMILIES GOT TO PUT BREAD ON THE TABLE, EVEN THOUGH THEIR JOB HAD BEEN SHUT DOWN, THE BUSINESS HAD BEEN SHUT DOWN BY THE GOVERNMENT, THEY TOOK HOME A PAYCHECK.

THE CHIPS LEGISLATION THAT I WAS ONE OF THE FEW REPUBLICANS WHO ACTUALLY VOTED FOR IT, THAT'S GOING TO BE TREMENDOUS FOR OUR STATE.

IT IS OUTSIDE OF COLUMBUS, BUT I WAS MEETING WITH PRESIDENT PINTO AT UC.

IT MEETS A LOT FOR THE COLLEGES HERE AND JOBS IN THE FUTURE.

AS I SAID EARLY ON, I THINK THIS REALLY, THE ELECTION BOILS DOWN TO TWO THINGS, IT BOILS DOWN TO GROCERIES AND CRIME.

AND GROCERIES ARE TOO HIGH AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING TOO HARD A TIME PUTTING IT ON THE TABLE IT'S BECAUSE OF POLICIES THAT HE SUPPORTED AND NANCY PELOSI IN WASHINGTON.

PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO FEEL SAFE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND I'll MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO.

THANK YOU.

>> MAY: THAT BRINGS THE FINAL DEBATE OF THE 2022 FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT RACE TO A CLOSE.

THANK YOU TO THE CANDIDATES CONGRESSMAN STEVE CHABOT AND COUNCILMAN GREG LANDSMAN.

ADDITIONAL THANKS TO OUR PANELISTS THIS EVENING LARRY SEWARD OF WCPO 9 NEWS, KATIE EAGAN OF THE CINCINNATI USA REGIONAL CHAMBER, AND NICK SWARTSELL OF WVXU.

FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE UPCOMING ELECTION'S CANDIDATES AND BALLOT INITIATIVES, YOU CAN VISIT WVXU.ORG.

YOU CAN ALSO FIND RESOURCES AND ELECTION COVERAGE ON WCPO.COM.

BE SURE TO TUNE IN TOMORROW TO CINCINNATI EDITION ON WVXU 91.7, MY FAVORITE PROGRAM, AT NOON.

WE WILL BE FACT CHECKING TONIGHT'S DEBATE, SO LISTEN LIVE OR CHECK OUT THE PODCAST BEFORE YOU CAST YOUR BALLOT.

THE DEADLINE TO REGISTER FOR THIS ELECTION HAS PASSED.

ABSENTEE BALLOTS HAVE STARTED TO BE MAILED OUT, AND EARLY VOTING HAS BEGUN AT COUNTY BOARDS OF ELECTION.

IN PERSON PRECINCT VOTING TAKES PLACE ON ELECTION DAY, TUESDAY NOVEMBER 8.

HOWEVER YOU DECIDE TO DO IT, WE HOPE YOU WILL VOTE AND MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD.

FOR ALL OF US HERE AT CET, WVXU, AND CINCINNATI CHAMBER, I'M LUCY MAY, HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.

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