
Orchids and Botanizing
Season 2025 Episode 31 | 56m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Amanda and Terasa welcome Vicky Bertagnolli, Nicole Correa, and Laura Hair.
Amanda and Terasa welcome Vicky Bertagnolli, Nicole Correa, and Laura Hair. Carmen Ketron talks with Clay Owens of the South Carolina Orchid Society. Dr. John Nelson visits Manchester State Forest.
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Orchids and Botanizing
Season 2025 Episode 31 | 56m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Amanda and Terasa welcome Vicky Bertagnolli, Nicole Correa, and Laura Hair. Carmen Ketron talks with Clay Owens of the South Carolina Orchid Society. Dr. John Nelson visits Manchester State Forest.
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♪ ♪ ♪ Well, good evening and welcome to Making It Grow .
We sure are glad you are with us tonight.
We have a very special guest whose name is Diva.
And... it's not me.
I consider myself a diva.
But anyway, they all get mad at me for saying that.
But anyway, she's- You'll learn more about her, anyway.
I'm Amanda McNulty, and I'm not a diva.
I'm just a Clemson Extension Agent whose happy to be here with y'all and with my co-host Terasa Lott.
Who- Terasa has got a big admin.
job with Clemson, and she wears a lot of hats.
And she's so kind cause you still come over here and help us.
What would we do without you?
> Oh, goodness.
I'm sure you would manage just fine.
But I love being here and it is the best feeling in the world to see people out and about.
And they say, "Hey, I really enjoy watching Making It Grow ."
So I mean, that just, that makes my day.
Amanda> We had a good time at the fair, didn't we?
Terasa> We absolutely did.
Amanda> And Vicky Bertagnolli was there as well.
And Vicky works with... HGIC and works in Aiken County.
And you came out to the fair and it was just- You know... "Ah, la, la, la."
It was fun, wasn't it?
> It was, it was.
I really enjoyed being out and people coming up to us and saying "Hi."
I think it's great.
Amanda> Yeah.
It's fun.
Unless you, look like the devil and you're putting gas in the car or something, and they go, "Are you that person?"
You go, "No."
Terasa> I have definitely thought, how did you recognize me?
I have my sunglasses on... you know, my weekend attire.
(laughter) Amanda> Anyway, it is kind of sweet when people come up and then you can talk about them and see what did they like about the show?
At any rate, we also have Laura Hair and she's Clemson Extension 4-H and Youth Development.
And you're over there where I am in Calhoun and Orangeburg.
And, there are a lot of Hairs... <Yes> in that part of the world.
> A whole lot of Hairs.
(laughter) Amanda> And I don't know if Diva is... if her last name is Hair or not.
Laura> It is.
Amanda> Okay.
And, so, your family just likes to have a lot of unusual pets?
Laura> We have about 24 sheep at our house.
We have close to 20 hogs.
We have chickens... some rabbits.
Amanda> Okay.
So do y'all gather the eggs from the chickens?
Laura> We do.
Amanda> Okay, okay.
Fun, fun!
Laura> Yes ma'am.
Amanda> So tell us a little bit about this little girl.
Laura> So Diva was born at our house, at our farm.
She was born on July 5th, and she was a twin.
Amanda> A twin?
Laura> A twin, yes, ma'am.
And her mom did not accept her, which is very common with sheep.
Amanda> Just because she's a twin or just with sheep in general?
Laura> Just because, because she's a twin.
Amanda> Oh, one was enough.
Laura> Yes.
(laughter) So we took her and we bottle fed her, and we actually let her live in our house for a little bit.
Amanda> I think that's wonderful.
Laura> So she is very, very calm and very... a Diva.
She's a diva.
She's needs a lot of attention.
Amanda> So does she sit on the sofa and watch TV with y'all?
Laura> No, we did not let her on the sofa.
(laughter) Terasa> You draw the line there?
Laura> We're going to draw the line there.
Amanda> Yeah, I was going to say you have to bring her in... (laughter) But she does get to come inside a little bit?
Laura> She, she did but now she is outside.
She's been outside for about a month.
Amanda> Oh, is she warm enough?
Laura> She is.
<Okay> She is.
We keep her pretty warm.
Amanda> Okay.
All right.
Anyway, that's lots of fun.
And Nicole Correa, you have come over from the same area, but you have a lot more besides Orangeburg and Calhoun.
And you're the livestock and forages agent.
> I am.
I cover Calhoun, Orangeburg, Berkeley, Dorchester and Charleston.
Amanda> Oh, goodness.
Okay.
Lots of gas, run up and down the highway.
Nicole> Oh, it keeps me busy, that's for sure.
Amanda> And I'll tell you, I hope when you go to Charleston, you don't have to go down the super highway, because, it might take you two hours to get there and it might take you five.
Nicole> It does, but I usually stop.
I'll find a good spot for lunch.
So that's my excuse, while I'm down there.
Amanda> Great!
Oh, that- Boy, you can sure get some good food down there, can't you?
Yeah, well, that's just super.
We're so happy that you are here today.
Alrighty, well... and we're going to later on in the show, have, Clay Owens whose from the South Carolina Orchid Society, came down and he had all these varieties of orchids which Terasa, of course, just loves orchids.
And she's real good at taking care of them.
So that was fun.
And then Doctor John talks about botanizing and Manchester State Forest, where he got a permit because he is so careful about doing that.
So that's going to be a lot of fun.
And then Terasa, you usually have "Gardens of the Week."
Do people still have some pretty things to show us?
Terasa> They do.
Our viewers always come through for us.
And you were talking about fun, so I think "Gardens of the Week" is a fun segment.
It's your time to shine.
You get to show off what you're doing in your yard or garden.
Or maybe you've just visited one of the many beautiful places in our great state.
So let's take a look.
We begin with Mindy James, who shared some of this year's bottleneck gourds that have been decoratively painted.
From Allyson Hirsh, planting for Veterans Day at Warbird Park in Myrtle Beach.
So a service project.
From Milton Vidro-Martinez, this time of year he said, "The dogwood steals the show."
That fall color.
From Jill Collins, a pollinator working a Camellia flower in Summerville.
And last, but not least, we wrap up with Pam Robinson who shared a Hydrangea that is in flower.
And she noted that, "It must be confused because it is so late in the year."
Remember, this is just a sampling of pictures.
There are others that were submitted on our Facebook page.
We hope you visit the Facebook page not just for "Gardens of the Week," but for looking at all of the content.
We do try to post there regularly, and we hope that when you see that call for "Gardens of the Week," you'll consider posting your photos right there in the comments.
Amanda> We do appreciate it.
We really do, it's fun.
Well, sometimes not so fun.
A little bit challenging can be questions.
Are we gonna try to help somebody?
Terasa> Absolutely.
We're going to start off with... Marlene, and I don't know if I know how to pronounce this.
This came in from out of state.
It looks like it's...
"Ohl-ween."
Vicky> "Ohl-wine" Terasa> Oelwein.
Okay, this was a question that Vicky received and it said, "I read on the internet that placing hedge apples around our basement will ward off spiders.
Is this true?"
Amanda> Well, I don't even know what a hedge apple is.
Vicky> You do know what a hedge apple is?
Amanda> Do I?
Vicky> A mock orange.
Amanda> Oh!
Vicky> Osage-orange.
Amanda> Yeah, yeah.
Vicky> And, the wives tale is that you put these things out and it's... I guess the smell of it is supposed to ward off spiders.
Amanda> Spiders?
I don't know that spiders do a lot of smelling.
(sniffing) I mean, they have all kinds of weird things, I'm sure.
Vicky> They don't.
And so this is an occasion where it's- Amanda> Folklore?
Vicky> It is folklore.
It doesn't hurt anything.
It makes people happy.
But you should also know that it actually doesn't ward off spiders.
It doesn't repel spiders.
There's, there's been some research where... they've taken some extractions from the fruit.
And in concentrations, there's a possibility that it might show a little bit of- Amanda> There's probably a lot of stuff you could spray.
I don't know, I just have no... anyway.
Vicky> But based in science, just placing the fruits themselves don't actually ward off spiders.
<Okay> I guess maybe, it like rolls over on top of it, and smashes the spider.
(laughter) But, just placing it in there, it doesn't do anything.
The smell that it emits, I mean, you can smell it as soon as you walk into a room, but it doesn't help any.
Amanda> Okay.
You know, my house is just an open doorway for spiders.
In and out and in and out.
Then I have those great big ones that hang, that hang out behind the, you know, the railings and all that kind of stuff.
I don't even know what they are.
And they seem to come out at night mostly.
But lately... And I didn't notice them all summer, but now, by the doors, I've had all kinds of, daddy long legs, which I knew isn't really a spider.
You think they're hanging out by the door because it's cold or what do you think?
Vicky> There's... it's- I would not think that necessarily because it's cold.
Because possibly, because it's sheltered.
So they're not as exposed- Amanda> It's just funny.
Yeah, I hadn't seen them.
Vicky> To the elements.
Amanda> I just seen a whole lot of them lately, and it's fun to pick them up, and put them back outside.
And, I remember being a kid and just loving- Do y'all remember the granddaddy long legs?
They're fun, yeah.
What are they?
Vicky> So, the ones that have one body segment that we commonly call granddaddy long legs, are actually not spiders.
Amanda> I didn't think any of them were spiders.
Vicky> They're arachnids.
but they're not spiders.
Amanda> I didn't think any of them were spiders.
Vicky> They're actually called Harvestmen.
<Mhm> Amanda> Okay.
Vicky> They're in the genus Opiliones.
<Okay> And... Amanda> Whatever.
What's weird is that sometimes whenever you see them, they'll be like, in a great big congregation of them, and you're like, "What is this like, giant hairball?"
<Yeah> Like on the side of a building or something like that.
It's a, congregation of... Amanda> That's what, you can- Okay.
Vicky> A lot of times they'll do it for protection.
Predator protection.
Amanda> Okay.
Nicole> Is that the proper term for that many spiders all next to each other, is "congregation?"
Amanda> You know, there are funky things like- Vicky> I don't know what it is called.
Amanda> You know, "whatever there's of crows."
All> A murder of crows.
Amanda> Isn't that funny.
There are funny names for a group of animals sometimes.
Yeah, okay.
Well- Terasa> Thanks to Vicky for myth busting today.
Amanda> Yeah.
That was fun.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, Terasa.
Let's try somebody else.
Terasa> Let's see.
We're going to go to Tony in Cordova who said, "My child just joined 4-H and I'm amazed at the confidence and teamwork she is learning.
Are there any community service projects that she can participate in during the holiday season?"
I just love that thought.
Amanda> Oh, that's lovely.
Terasa> I bet there are.
Amanda> That's so sweet.
So what, how would- I mean, this is just one area, but in, in general, how do you learn about other things that might be going on?
Laura> I'm really glad to hear that she's gaining confidence.
We like to hear that about 4-H.
Amanda> Of course, yeah.
Laura> And in 4-H, we learn by doing so we really want the kids to go out and do service projects.
And what better time of the year than the holidays to go and do those?
So some things that she might be able to do and other kids too, is maybe make little gift bags for first responders or cookies.
We made cookies last year, with our club and took them to the local first responders and they loved them.
You could also do a sock drive for seniors.
Socks and blankets help keep them warm at winter.
Amanda> Okay.
Laura> Also with extension, right now we have a food drive going on.
Amanda> Oh, we do?
Laura> We do.
Yes ma'am.
And anyone in the community can bring... nonperishable food items to their local extension office.
And then we'll gather them and we'll take them to a local food bank.
Amanda> Okay.
Well, those are great ideas.
And I bet there are other things happening in other parts of the state.
So just call around and ask- Laura> They can just call their local extension office and ask the extension office, ask the 4-H agent.
And if they have a service project that they would like to do or like 4-H to get involved with, they can let us know and we'll try to get a group together.
Amanda> Oh, okay.
Oh, so it doesn't have to already be an existence.
<Right> You can just say "We're really interested in so and so, can we maybe-" Laura> Or if someone needs help like a community garden if they want to get it ready for winter.
<Yeah> We could go in and possibly help.
Amanda> Okay.
That's just wonderful.
Terasa> I think, I've seen service projects around animal shelters too, either going in and volunteering or making treats or toys for the animals, Laura> Or making little blankets for the animals.
Terasa> And some clubs are particularly service focused.
Laura> Right.
Terasa> So there might be a service club in, you know, a particular area.
<Okay> Lots of opportunity.
Amanda> Yeah.
And you're interested in animals that need a home.
So I'm glad that you brought that up.
Yeah, lots of animals that need homes.
Terasa> There are.
<Yeah> Amanda> Well, thank you.
That's really wonderful.
Okay, alrighty.
Okay, dear.
Terasa> That means we need another question.
This one comes in from Tess in Salley.
Tess said, "I am a new horse owner and have Bermuda grass for my horses.
Can my horse eat the Bermuda grass over the winter, or will I need to feed it hay?"
Amanda> Ah, well... Bermuda grass grows pretty aggressively, but I don't know if it's enough to keep a horse alive over the winter.
What do you think?
Nicole> It will not, it goes dormant in the winter time.
So, that's one of our warm season perennial grasses.
Amanda> Munch, munch.
I'm not coming back right now.
I'm going to wait till spring.
Nicole> Oh, yes, yes.
And Bermuda does take a while in the spring to get back up.
So there are a lot of options.
I have some options here to show you all.
This is some coastal hay.
And so, Tess is able to feed her horse- Amanda> It's called Coastal Bermuda, and that might confuse people, why... Yeah, whatever.
Nicole> Yes, there are different, different varieties that people can buy of different types of hay.
And so, this is just one example of some locally grown hay.
It is important to feed her horse.
Amanda> It smells so fresh.
Nicole> It is.
It is very fresh.
It came, it came directly from a farm in Lexington County.
So I know exactly where it was grown.
I've seen it on the ground.
But if she doesn't want to feed hay, she can also- Amanda> What are the advantages and disadvantages of hay.
Nicole> So, one advantage of hay is that it is... it's cost effective.
And it does provide potentially all of the nutrients that, that horse would need over the winter time.
<Okay> You know, she might want to talk to her veterinarian based on her horse's age.
And whether that horse has proper shelter and things like that, a place to walk around.
But one of the disadvantages is that this, this particular type of hay... depending on the horse, it may need a little bit more.
And so we like to try to supplement with things like for example, this right here, I've got is alfalfa pellets.
And so if that horse needs just a little bit more nutrition, she can offer that horse some alfalfa pellets instead.
Amanda> I've tasted this and it wasn't very tasty, but... Terasa> It might be if you were a horse, right?
Amanda> Yeah.
Nicole> Oh, yeah, as a horse I'm sure it's delicious.
(Amanda neighing) And I know that my horses prefer alfalfa over just about anything else.
Amanda> Oh, really?
Nicole> They sure do.
Amanda> But these are going to be more expensive, I guess.
Nicole> Yes.
So that is a downfall of that.
<Yeah> And obviously, as you can tell, I've already made a mess here on the table.
Amanda> That's fine.
Nicole> One of the disadvantages of hay is that it can be kind of messy and you may have some loss.
Whereas something like pellets might be a little bit easier for them to eat.
This is another example of a type of horse feed.
Amanda> I didn't taste this one.
Nicole> You could.
It's a senior feed.
And it is considered a complete feed.
Amanda> What is it?
Oh, just this mixture of several other things.
Nicole> Yes, yes.
Amanda> It's a ration that was created, by- I don't wanna say what company it was, but you can get a ration just about anywhere and at your local feed and seed as well.
But, any of these three items could potentially be a full meal for that horse for the winter time.
Or she can mix and match how she wants to.
Amanda> And so... you have to figure out how much to give them, though, if you're giving them these extra things and you can help them figure that out or?
Nicole> Absolutely, that's something that I can help with.
Or also calling her local veterinarian.
I always recommend that people work with a local veterinarian and have a good relationship.
We have very few, livestock veterinarians left in South Carolina.
And so, you know, making sure that we make good use of them and are thankful for them.
It's important.
Amanda> Okay.
And do you have another one?
Nicole> I do have another one.
Just kind of a mix of a couple of different types of things.
So, this one has a little bit of oats and a little bit of grain.
And like I said, you can talk with your veterinarian or us about getting some, rations mixed up to make it work for your animal.
But yeah, those are just a few options.
Being that Bermuda grass will not grow through the winter time here in South Carolina.
Amanda> But you got to be careful about storage because otherwise rats and things are going to get in these.
They'd love to eat them.
Nicole> Oh, yes.
That one on the far right has molasses in it.
So the rats love that.
So store them in, you know, metal containers ideally or at least some plastic bins.
Amanda> And then the hay, you've got to have a place to store it so it's not sitting outside.
Nicole> Correct.
Ideally, you want it off the ground.
You want a little bit of airflow.
Hay can combust, depending on when it was baled.
And so we want to make sure for safety- Amanda> Depending on how much moisture was in it.
Nicole> Yes, correct.
For safety reasons, we... you know, give it some airflow.
<Okay> But yeah, a lot of great options.
And if she has additional questions, she can reach out to her local livestock agent.
Amanda> Okay.
I have a friend who has horses, and we were sitting on the hay, because she had some chickens sitting next to... and we were watching chickens.
And we got eaten up with chiggers, with red bugs.
I mean... (laughter) which is, you know, and they always go to places that are embarrassing to scratch.
<Of course> (laughter) So I might tell people about, you know, maybe not sitting on top of it.
<Yes> Terasa> Nicole, it reminded me when you were talking, we sometimes will shorten livestock and forages and we'll just say "livestock agent."
But, maybe our viewers would be interested in knowing what forages refers to.
Nicole> Yes.
It refers to exactly what's on this table.
And that's another option as far as, what she can feed her horse over the winter time.
She could put down some winter grazing seed.
Ryegrass is great for horses, it's a great option.
Some folks do a mix of ryegrass and cereal rye to extend their grazing season.
<Oh!> So, when we talk about forages, we're not talking about foraging in the woods, unfortunately.
Amanda> We're not gathering mushrooms.
Nicole> I'd love to know how to do that, but I don't.
But we're talking about what animals can eat out of the field.
Amanda> Okay.
So a lot of this is depending on where in the state you are and what the weather's like, too.
Nicole> Absolutely.
Yes.
Amanda> Okay.
Well, that was great fun.
Thank you so very, very much.
Nicole> You're welcome.
Amanda> Cool.
Okay.
Oh, I wanted to say something, now because I brought some cotton.
You know, I live in Calhoun County, and, boy, we grow all kinds of wonderful agricultural crops.
And, I thought, I gave all y'all some.
And I thought it would be fun for while we're just sitting around for y'all to- Terasa, I don't think I gave you any because you're always so busy, always giving us questions.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Terasa> Or you thought that I wouldn't be very talented.
Amanda> Here, Terasa.
Anyway, that y'all could try picking out the seeds because it's just... I mean, I'm not kidding.
Picking out the cotton seeds is a big deal, and so I thought we'd do that.
And then, Vicky I think, you've got a fabulous picture for us to look at.
Our wonderful friend Barbara Smith, who's just so delightful and has all kinds of- she loves history and all things old fashioned, even though she's so modern and knows everything new too.
But, what was it that you saw that she had?
Vicky> So Barbara showed us, she used it as a show and tell, and, we had a gathering as the HGIC staff, and she asked us all, "What is this?"
<Yeah> And, we, you know, we were guessing, "Oh, it's something to, to maybe... to work on yarn because she's a quilter."
Is it, you know, what is this?
And it turns out that this belonged to either her grandmother or great grandmother.
And what it is, is that these paddles have all these, <Teeth> the teeth on it, and you put the bowl in it and you work the bowl so that you can get the seeds out of... separate it from the fiber.
Amanda> Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So cotton, when we got the, cotton gin, I guess.
Eli Whitney, right?
Yeah.
That was a big, big, big, big, big, big deal.
Because you will see, this is tedious, and.
Huh, I'm going to keep on working.
Okay?
Y'all do the same.
Well, now, I'm sorry Terasa, I didn't mean to go immediately, not go to another question, because I know people want to get their questions answered.
Terasa> This is taking away the time I have to get my seeds.
You know, I'm very competitive.
(laughter) Nicole> And you got two of them.
The rest of us only have one.
Terasa> Ha-ha.
Amanda> Yeah, we won't make you do both.
Terasa> All right.
We've got another out of state question.
This came in from Linda.
She said, "I found what, I think is a mushroom growing in my front yard.
What is it and why are there flies all over it?"
And we do have a photograph to go along- Amanda> Oh, oh!
Terasa> It's a good thing you can't smell through the television.
Our viewers probably wouldn't like this one.
Amanda> Yeah.
Vicky, help us out with this.
Unlike the spiders... yeah, other things can smell.
I mean, can smell smells.
Vicky> Yeah.
This is a common stinkhorn.
And these- It's a fungi.
And these are super common in our landscapes.
Amanda> So it is a mushroom?
Vicky> It's a mushroom.
And they feed on, like, the decaying plant matter in the soil profile.
<Yeah> And what we see above ground, those are the fruiting bodies.
And in the case of stink horns, whenever... that fungi is maturing, the fruiting body comes up above ground.
<Okay> And this particular fungi puts on a cap.
And that cap, the fungi keeps maturing and as it matures, the cap develops a, a slimy, spore mass.
Amanda> Ugh.
Vicky> And this is called a gleba.
And, what this does is it smells really bad, but it's slimy.
And a lot of mushrooms spread their spores by when the cap matures and it starts to turn up the gills lets the spores out and it's carried off by wind.
That's not how stinkhorns work.
Instead, they develop this slimy spore mass.
And the flies come to that because these are, flies in the family Calliphoridae.
These are blow flies.
They're bottle flies.
Amanda> Ugh.
Yeah, yeah.
Vicky> And they're attracted to the smell of particularly decaying meat.
Amanda> Yeah.
And, I think also if you have, if your dog pooped in the yard, you're gonna see them too.
Vicky> They'll come there too.
Amanda> I mean, people might have seen them.
Vicky> And what happens is, is because these flies are attracted to that stinky- Amanda> Yeah, yeah.
Vicky> It's a spore laden mass, and they get the slime on them and then they end up flying off.
They're spreading the spores of this particular fungi.
Amanda> Good gracious, almighty!
Well, that was really, really, really fun.
Okay, how bad do they smell?
Vicky> It smells like it's rotten.
There's a lot of different genuses out there.
<Yeah> They all smell pretty bad- Amanda> If there were one in here?
Vicky> You can get within a few feet of it, you can smell it.
Amanda> Wow, okay.
Well, I'm glad we've got a little lamb to smell instead of... a mushroom.
Terasa> But even though they smell bad, they're really doing a good thing.
They're kind of, they're recyclers, right?
They're helping to break down that organic matter <Yeah> and make it available to, to plants and things that are going to grow in the soil.
So people don't need to really worry about it.
<Okay> Vicky> You don't have to worry about it.
Now we don't advise ingesting any of them.
Amanda> No, no, no, no, no.
Vicky> Don't eat them.
But, but all it's doing is, is helping to break down organic matter in that soil profile.
So they're doing a job.
Amanda> Absolutely, yeah.
Vicky> And then the flies are also doing a job.
Amanda> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
How's everybody coming?
Nicole> Slow.
Terasa> I've got quite a pile down here.
Amanda> Imagine if we have a whole field of cotton we got sit around- I mean, can you imagine?
Whew, anyway.
Well, let's learn about, a plant that has, a flower that's, not going to turn into something that's so difficult.
Orchids.
Let's go and talk to Clay Owens about orchids.
> Hello, I'm Carmen Ketron, the Urban Horticulture Agent for Clemson Extension in Florence and Darlington Counties.
Today, I'm here with Mr.
Clay Owens and his amazing orchid collection.
Now, Clay you are from the South Carolina Orchid Society.
Tell me about that.
> Yes, I am.
So the Orchid Society was established about 45 years ago, and we are based in Columbia, South Carolina.
But we help everyone all over the region.
We have meetings once a month in Columbia, South Carolina.
We have a website presence, we have Instagram and Facebook.
And it's all there just to give information to anyone who wants to know more about where you can find orchids, how you can take care of orchids, and how you can learn a little bit more about the orchids you might already have.
<Excellent> We have an amazing assortment of things here.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
This is showing you plants that came from both Carter and Holmes Greenhouses in Newberry, South Carolina, which is one of the treasures here in South Carolina.
And you guys visited there years ago with Making It Grow .
And from our own greenhouses with our members as well.
Carmen> Let's get into them.
What do we have here?
Well, we have probably what I would consider to be one of the easiest orchids to grow.
This is the Phalaenopsis or moth orchid.
This is the plant that you will find in your grocery stores, or maybe big box stores.
It's one that is amazing colors and it's easy to take care of.
It comes in multiple sizes, from the large to a medium and a miniature size.
And they're great because each one of them has the same type of care requirements.
You can have a full size, you can have a medium or even this little guy, depending on how much space you have.
Each one of these likes the same things that you like.
Doesn't want to be too hot or too cold, so anywhere between about 65 degrees to 80 degrees.
It likes to have a breeze, just like we like to have a breeze.
It doesn't like direct sunlight because it could burn, so indirect light.
And for watering it's pretty generous.
So you can water it anywhere between every 7 to 14 days.
But the key is whenever it feels dry, that's when you want to water it.
And it will rebloom for you year after year.
So it's a wonderful investment and something that you can find almost everywhere.
Carmen> I love these, I see them all the time.
Some of these, I have never seen in my life.
and I can smell them from here.
That is amazing.
Tell me about some of these.
Do I smell chocolate?
Clay> You do, actually.
This is an orchid that is very popular because people say, "Do you have that chocolate orchid?"
And we do.
This is called an Oncidium Sharry baby.
And it specifically has a chocolate fragrance and it became so popular that now they have chocolate with raspberry, they have chocolate with vanilla.
They have all different types of flowering plants that are called Oncidiums.
And Oncidium, is one of the many families of orchids that you can find and grow.
These like a little more water, again, not direct sunlight.
And they will rebloom for you many times throughout the year.
So that's another attribute of this particular family of plants.
And you can see you get a lot more blooms on it and you get that great fragrance.
Now another big category of plants would be slipper orchids.
A slipper orchid is technically called a Phragmipedium or a Paphiopedilum.
This is an example of a Paphiopedilum.
So this one, you can see the little slipper pouch right under here.
And this one's very special because you can see another bud right here.
That means it's called a sequential bloomer.
It will bloom once, and when this bloom is finished, you have another one coming right behind it, ready to bloom again.
This one also likes a little more wet conditions, less light.
But probably once it starts blooming, it will keep going for you month after month after month.
And these can be any size from about four to six inches, up to 24 to 36 inches tall.
So you have a wide array of plant sizes.
Now, speaking of plant sizes, if you look down here, we have something very special.
This is a miniature orchid.
Now when I say miniature, I mean, teeny-tiny little blooms.
This plant has hundreds of blossoms on it.
And that is to show you that orchids come in every shape, size and color.
There are more than 70,000 types of orchids in the wild, and with hybridizing 450,000 orchids, that man has created over the years.
We've developed them to have bigger blooms, more fragrant, smaller sizes, bigger sizes.
But this is an example of an original species orchid.
That is how you would find it in the wild.
So some people collect miniatures so they can have them in a small grow space.
Other people, maybe they like something very large and very showy like this.
That is a Cattleya orchid.
You might say it's the corsage orchid.
That's something that has this beautiful color and an amazing, rich fragrance as well.
This particular one has a name that's called labiata, that's even better.
And you can see why it might be called even better.
This is an amazing plant.
But by comparison, this is also a Cattleya, as well.
Look at the difference in size, there.
You have a giant plant like this, but then you have a little tiny plant like that one that gives you a windowsill growing.
This is only about six to eight inches tall so that you can still have a beautiful large bloom.
This one has a great amount of space and color, but you don't need all the space that you have for that plant.
This is showing you that there is an orchid for everyone, and Cattleyas are very forgiving as well.
They like more heat, more light, less water.
So they're great for southern growers.
Carmen> I love that.
So it sounds like what I'm hearing you say is I need to actually pick out- And so normally if I'm doing plants, I find the right plant for the right place.
But here I've got to determine my place, and then I have, what... thousands of options.
So I kind of have to get my... where I want to go and what kind of light it has.
What kind of- Clay> There are basics.
The same basics that you might have for other house plants you want to do for this as well.
Every plant needs the same basic things.
You need to know what your temperature requirements are, what your light requirements are, your water requirements, and then what your air requirements are.
If you have those four things for any plant you have in your garden or in your home, you will then know what you can do to be successful.
So once you do that now you can decide.
I've figured out what I have, what's my routine?
What can I do to take care of a plant?
Because I don't know about you, but I think that a plant should enhance my life.
I don't need to change my life for a plant.
So what do I already do?
How frequently kind of water it?
How frequently can I take care of it?
How big of a space do I have?
Then you narrow it down from there.
There are literally millions of websites out there that will help you figure out the right plant.
But if you start with, southcarolinaorchidsociety.org we have a complete listing of care sheets and information that'll help you narrow down some of the things you might be interested in.
> I love that and I appreciate it.
I want, if I were... to quiz you.
<Yes> What would be your third favorite... Clay> Third favorite?
Carmen> That you want to show off.
Clay> Well, I'm going to show off something that's really interesting and unique to South Carolina, but also to growers all over the world.
This particular plant is very unusual because it has this one really spectacular bloom.
And that is a plant that was actually developed at Carter and Holmes Nurseries in Newberry.
This particular one is called an Oncidium mendenhall.
This plant started a revolution because it has this very small base, but a huge, up to 36 inches tall, spike.
And then it will bloom for you.
The great thing about it is it's another sequential bloomer.
You get this amazing big butterfly shape.
When this bloom ends, there's another bud right behind it ready to go.
There are plants that have been in bloom literally for years because one bloom ends, another one starts, and it keeps going over and over again.
And it all started in Newberry, South Carolina.
So it's kind of an amazing plant that is world renowned.
And it all started here.
But it's a big, showy plant that doesn't take up a lot of room until it starts to bloom.
So it's a great story like that.
Now, I will say I kind of like the unusual and the odd things as well.
So I would love to introduce you to a plant like this one.
I think it has a beautiful display.
It's got multiple blooms on each spike.
And if you get close up to it, you can see they're fuzzy and they're furry.
They have little parts that bobble and move around and it looks really interesting.
It's called a Bulbophyllum.
That's one in a family of hundreds and hundreds of plants, but it's really unique because it grows like an ivy.
It just covers the ground than it moves on and on, and you can divide it once it gets to a certain size.
But as beautiful as it is, it's got a little hidden secret.
Carmen> What's that?
Clay> All of these orchids are adapted.
The only reason they bloom is to pollinate, to reproduce.
So it has to have something special to come in and reproduce with it.
It is pollinated by flies.
(Carmen gasps) So where some things are bumblebees and moths even this one wants to attract a fly.
So a fly doesn't want anything that smells really sweet and really nice.
It wants to smell garbage or meat.
<Trashy, yes.> And so these are known for having a little bit of a stinky fragrance.
So it's a little bit of a trade off.
And you can give it a try.
And depending on the time of day you may have a really strong fragrance.
Some of them have no fragrance, those are more popular.
But I think they're so unusual and unique and really easy to grow.
And again, a climbing plant- Carmen> Oh, see now that is wonderful.
Can I smell it?
Clay> Go right ahead.
Don't take a deep breath just in case.
Carmen> Oh!
That smells horrendous.
(laughter) Oh, no.
Clay> Yes.
Now you know, it's true.
Now, we talked about Cattleya orchids and all the different sizes.
Now, I am wild about spots.
I think spots are fantastic.
And so this is a great example of another Cattleya.
This one is called in particular Cattleya Caudebec and it's Linwood.
These are beautiful spotted plants that have been bred specifically for more and more spots.
And it has a great fragrance as well.
So you can see that just like we have designer paint samples and designer fabrics and fragrances, we also have that with orchids.
These all started from one common type of plant millions of years ago.
They're one of the oldest plants on records, and now we've hybridized them into what you see before you.
You can find orchids on almost every continent except for Antarctica.
Because they don't do well in cold and they don't need ice.
Which is a very common question that we get all the time.
Carmen> Have you been talking to my grandmother?
She loves ice cube in the pot to water.
Clay> Well, you know what I think there's a great thing to know about orchids.
There's a million rules about how to take care of orchids.
If it works for you, you keep doing it.
But everybody has an opinion.
Not all opinions are valid for you.
If that works for your grandma and for anybody else, keep doing the ice cubes.
However, I tend to believe that ice cubes belong in sweet tea and not in an orchid because naturally an ice cube is going to shock a plant, <Yeah> it's going to create some stress.
They may still thrive, but instead what they're really saying is that's how much water they need.
And they're just trying to do a little bit of a marketing that says, "throw those ice cubes in there."
But that was started by a company that wanted to sell more orchids.
So if people kill those orchids by accident, they're going to sell more plants.
So I personally and other orchid growers do not recommend the ice cube, but if that is what works for you, keep doing it.
There is no one set of rules because everybody grows plants in different conditions.
Everybody has different lifestyles.
So just keep an eye on your plant.
If it's thriving, keep doing it.
Don't change the rules of what works for you just because of somebody else's opinion.
Carmen> Well, thank you so much.
This has been enlightening.
I got new information.
I'm so very excited and I'm a little less hesitant now.
I might... get me an orchid this time.
Clay> Well, I have one last thing to share with you.
Remember, if you buy an orchid and it doesn't thrive for you and it may even pass away, that's a very specific kind of orchid.
And I want to remind you of what that's called.
That plant's called a "quitter."
It's not you, it was the plant.
(laughter) Carmen> Definitely the plant.
Clay> So you just try another one and read a little bit more about it.
And the South Carolina Orchid Society is here to help you make sure you're successful.
Carmen> Thank you, Clay.
And where can we find more information about the South Carolina Orchid Society?
Clay> You can go on the web at southcarolinaorchidsociety.org or South Carolina Orchid Society on Facebook and on Instagram.
And of course, we have our meetings in Columbia on the third Sunday of every month.
And you can find all the details on our speakers and our programs on the website.
Carmen> Thank you, Clay.
Thank you so much for coming on today.
Clay> Thank you.
Amanda> So I've got, looking around for hats.
A lot of people don't know of things that bloom in the shade and Fatsia it does.
It's not native, and I doubt if it's a larval food source.
But it is pretty fun to have some in the shade because you get these great flowers.
And then I've got some Loquat, called Japanese plum.
And, the fruits are just wonderful.
It used to be that they didn't fruit much in South Carolina, but now with climate change, you get all kinds of fruits on them.
And you can pick them and eat them and do jellies and jams with them.
And then blue ginger.
And I don't know anything about blue ginger, except I got it about five or six years ago, and it hadn't expanded much.
But it sure is a pretty color because they say "no blue flowers."
At any rate, Terasa, do we have another question?
Terasa> We do, Amanda.
We've got Sam from Goose Creek who said, "With the cold weather here, what can families do to take care of their livestock through the winter?"
Amanda> Well, I got some blankets out of the cedar chest at my house, but, I don't know if that's what you can do with, with livestock.
What do y'all think?
Nicole> So there are a few things that are of major importance for livestock in the winter.
Shelter, food, and water.
Amanda> Well, that makes sense.
Nicole> We want to make sure that even something as simple as a three-sided shelter or... Amanda> Oh, okay.
Nicole> Planting some trees ahead of time to make sure that there are windbreaks for the animals will be helpful.
Diva, for example, is going to need a little bit more to keep her warm throughout the winter because she is a younger animal.
She was a bottle baby, so she is potentially a little more immunocompromised than, say, an adult animal that is in good health.
So shelter for sure.
I know she's very spoiled, and I'm sure that if the temperatures get too cold, she'll end up back in the house.
(laughter) Amanda> Watching TV.
Nicole> Watching herself on Making It Grow .
Another thing that is really helpful if you can't provide a super warm shelter, is to be able to feed them, three percent of their body weight in forages and hay.
Livestock use digestion to help warm their bodies.
And so giving them enough food 24/7.
Amanda> How you gonna weigh a horse?
Terasa> There are livestock scales, right?
Nicole> There are livestock scales.
And actually with horses they, they have, a measuring tape that you can use that will take the weight of that animal essentially.
Amanda> Okay.
I don't want, I don't want that tape around my waist.
Nicole> No, not at all.
(laughter) Amanda> Really?
Nicole> Yeah.
So food, shelter and then water, obviously.
We want to make sure with the cold weather and potential for water getting frozen, that we're checking troughs regularly, breaking any ice.
You know, if you've got automatic watering systems, you make sure that they're still working properly with the cold weather.
But, yeah, there's lots of options to be able to keep your, your animals warm.
Amanda> I see some people who put blankets on their horses.
I live in the Midlands, and, my friend, who herself has lots of horses, says she thinks that's very seldom needed.
But... when do people need to consider that?
Nicole> It is very seldom needed.
That is correct.
Usually when you have an older horse, or say, like a clipped horse, that has a short coat- Amanda> Oh, okay.
Nicole> That is an option.
And you do have to be very cautious with equine blankets because depending on the weight of it, you know, it actually can make the horse too hot.
Amanda> That's what I was thinking.
Nicole> And they end up sweating, and then they end up being more cold.
So, horses are great at keeping themselves warm.
They can usually handle two of three things at the same time, right?
Either wind, rain, or cold.
And so if only two of those things are happening at once, most healthy horses do not need blankets.
Amanda> Okay.
So what are some of the things that people need to be concerned with, Laura... with sheep and goats and things like that?
Are you worried about, because you've got a good many things at your house.
What do y'all do?
Laura> We make sure that they have all those things that Nicole said.
<Yeah> Also the 4-H children that do the livestock projects, you know, they still have most of their animals now through the winter.
So, anytime that they have a question about what their animal needs, they can give us a call.
Nicole and I have ridden out to some of their houses to look at what they need, help with.
Terasa> So, I'm curious, do you ever need supplemental heat in a shelter?
Would there be any, like, would chickens need that or anything like that?
Nicole> Yes, that can be a great resource for chickens.
And, there are also options to, help keep animals warm in shelters.
Straw is going to be your best and warmest option.
Actually, we talked a little bit about, strays earlier and stray animals.
You know, folks want to put... t-shirts out for cats in boxes, and that's actually not recommended.
We recommend straw or, pine shavings, because the blankets can get too cold and actually make it worse for the cat or dog that is using that, that box.
Terasa> And I don't know if our viewers at home will be familiar with the difference between straw versus hay.
So maybe you could mention that.
Nicole> Yes.
When I'm talking about straw, I'm talking about what, actually what, what's up front right here on the ground.
Usually here, you know, we use wheat straw or oat straw.
So it's a different type of, what's growing?
And then for us here, we can actually use hay as bedding too, if necessary.
But straw is a much more cost effective option.
<Right> Amanda> Well, Vicky, you've been growing your hair and your diet too.
You want to... you brush hair, you want to brush this lamb a little bit.
Tell me what you're gonna do if you decide to dye her hair.
(laughter) I mean... there's pet safe dyes out there.
Amanda> Are there?
Vicky> Oh, yeah.
Amanda> Come on.
Vicky> They do a lot of the, the dogs that they groom.
<Yeah> They put all sorts of designs in their hair Amanda> Come on.
Vicky> There's all sorts of colors out there.
And I would think that the wool would take it really nicely.
Laura> Oh, yeah.
Nicole> Absolutely.
I think she needs a little bit of orange and purple on her.
(laughter) Vicky> Just a nice little paw, right there.
Amanda> So... do you brush them a good bit?
Laura> Not often.
If you can notice on the brush she's shedding a good bit and we want... like, she's growing her winter coat, right now.
So we want to make sure she keeps that so that while she's outside, she's got that nice thick- Amanda> So, you don't want to brush her and get rid of the extra hair.
Laura> Not too much.
Amanda> Or wool.
Laura> We wanted to make sure she was nice and brushed today though.
Amanda> Well, she looks very lovely.
Y'all did a wonderful job.
And I guess you could paint her- So she's got two, two toes?
Laura> Yes, ma'am.
So when she was a baby, we got, we actually got someone to lambsit her.
That's how much of a diva she is.
And they painted her toenails bright pink, and it was very cute.
Amanda> I bet that was... So, she has two toes on the front and the back.
Laura> Yes, ma'am.
Amanda> And you have to cut their toenails sometimes?
Since she's not on rocks or what?
Laura> You have to trim them.
Amanda> You do.
Okay.
And then how many teeth does she have?
Does she have teeth?
I mean, like... Laura> She has a few teeth.
They have bottom teeth.
Amanda> She's not like a horse?
Laura> Not like a horse.
They have those bottom teeth that help them grab the... forages.
Nicole> There's some teeth.
Amanda> Oh, okay.
Okay.
And, Goodness gracious.
And so did they come all- Does this type always come like, with a full, with the same pattern?
Cause doesn't one of them have a white ear sometime?
Laura> Yes ma'am, they can have different patterns.
Amanda> They can?
Okay.
Well, I like her pattern very much.
Laura> I do too.
Amanda> But they typically have a white body.
Laura> Yes.
Amanda> Okay, okay.
Nicole> And she's a hair sheep actually she's not a wool sheep.
Amanda> A hair sheep?
Oh, la, la, la, la.
Laura> She'll shed naturally.
We don't have to shear her.
Amanda> So what's the difference in a hair sheep and a wool sheep?
Nicole> What you can do with the fiber.
So when you have, like a wool sweater, it's from a wool sheep.
And for her, because she's a hair sheep and she'll shed her hair naturally, as you see happening, right now.
<Yeah> You know, it's... she's better suited for the South Carolina weather.
Amanda> Really?
<Mhm> Oh, well that's interesting.
Vicky> So do these still have to be- So these don't really have to be sheared?
Nicole> Not usually.
Now, if you cross a wool with a hair sheep, then you will likely have to still shear them.
Or at least keep an eye on them.
Sheep are really good at kind of letting you know if they get too hot.
They pant a lot.
They'll sit in the shade, and they just, you can physically see that they're uncomfortable, very similar to humans.
And so, for her, she's not going to have to get shorn.
Vicky> Okay.
Amanda> Okay.
Well, fun.
Yeah.
Maybe we can, dye her hair and paint her toenails and she could come back and see us.
Would you consider that?
Laura> We could.
Amanda> Okay.
How big is she going to be when she's really grown up?
Laura> I don't know the pounds.
Amanda> I mean, like, twice as big or just a little bit bigger.
Laura> Oh, like, probably four times this big.
Amanda> What!
Nicole> Four times, yeah.
Full grown sheep are, at least usually a couple hundred pounds.
Amanda> Oh, I don't know if she can come back or not.
All> She wouldn't be on the table.
Amanda> Okay, okay.
(laughter) Whoo!
We could come see her.
Laura> That's right.
But it might be hard to get her to sit still for all that, Vicky painting her hair and everything?
Nicole> Oh, I don't think so.
Amanda> Vicky said she- Vicky> Will work it out, yeah.
Amanda> Okay.
Vicky> It'll be great.
Amanda> Well, right now we are going to now go botanizing with Dr.
John at Manchester State Forest.
> I'm here with Dr.
John Nelson, who loves to botanize.
And one of your favorite places to botanize is Manchester State Forest, right here in Sumter County.
And some other counties too, I think.
> Right.
Yes, very recently I started a project at Manchester State Forest, which is in western Sumter County, a little bit in Clarendon County too.
But it's a wonderful place.
I, you know, you're right, I wanted to collect plants for the herbarium.
So I've been driving back and forth from Columbia, it's not too far.
And I got a permit in order to do it.
So I'm legal and, like, making these specimens for scientific purposes.
And, what a wonderful experience I've been having.
And the people over there are very cooperative and sharing their, their acreage with me.
Amanda> And you can do- They a lot of activities.
You have to, you know, call and find out and sign up, you know, because it's not open- Dr.
Nelson> They have a website.
Amanda> It's not a park, but, you can do a lot of things.
Dr.
Nelson> Right.
And they have plenty of information provided by the South Carolina Forestry Commission.
And, anyway at Manchester, there's all sorts of things to do, including, hunting and fishing of course, you know, there are schedules for that, but also horseback riding.
And, you know, part of the state trail system goes through Manchester and Poinsett State Park is right next door, so that's really kind of convenient.
Amanda> Is it mostly, like sandy land of pine trees on it?
Dr.
Nelson> Most of it is high and dry.
<Yeah> Of course, you know, this is part of the high hills of the Santee, that Francis Marion was a big part of.
And, but they're also swamps and steep slopes, especially those that face the, Wateree River.
Amanda> Okay.
So, what are some of the cool things that you found over there?
Dr.
Nelson> Well, the coolest thing that we found, and I went over there a couple of times with my buddy Steve Bennett.
<Yeah> Who is a really good naturalist on his own.
And he was taking a good many pictures of stuff with me and a Carolina bay that we located.
Amanda> Oh, okay.
Dr.
Nelson> It's on the north end of the property.
Amanda> And they're all oriented in one direction for people who don't know about them.
They're kind of fascinating to learn about.
Dr.
Nelson> They are.
And they have their- I mean, you could put your foot over on one side and over here it'd be completely different.
The Carolina bay is very unique, in what's going to be inside the bay.
Dr.
Nelson> Right.
Carolina bays are fantastic places for natural history study.
But you're right, they have a sort of a kooky, orientation on the ground.
And a lot of times they have a sandy rim, at least on the southeastern edge.
Not always, but this particular kind of, Carolina bay was filled with almost all herbaceous plants.
So it's what we call a grass sedge bay.
Not many woody plants at all.
And one of the ones that got my attention was this hedgenettle.
<Whoo!> You know, I'm interested in hedgenettles.
The genus is Stachys.
It's in the mint family.
And there must have been... thousands and thousands and thousands of blooming stems.
Amanda> Of one particular- Dr.
Nelson> One particular species, just, everywhere.
And it was really quite wonderful.
It's the only species that actually does this, that grows in such abundance whenever it does occur.
So... Amanda> Because you, you found a new hedgenettle and got to name it.
Nobody had ever- Dr.
Nelson> Well... Amanda> Identified it- Dr.
Nelson> A new one that, was recorded from Georgetown and Charleston County.
Amanda> Exciting.
Dr.
Nelson> Yeah.
Stachys caroliniana.
But, the one at Manchester is a different species and that one's hyssop-leaved hedgenettle.
Amanda> That sounds kind of pretty.
Dr.
Nelson> Yeah.
Bees love them.
It's a bee pollinated, flower.
<Okay> But that was just one of the, you know, many places that's kind of worthwhile to see at Manchester.
Plus plenty of different, you know, plant species.
Amanda> When you got to some other areas, what were some of the ones that you enjoyed seeing that you might show us pictures?
Dr.
Nelson> Well, I would be happy to.
Well there's a good many different kinds of sunflowers that grow there.
<Okay> Late summer and of course, autumn blooming.
<Yes> Helianthus microcephalus, which is, I guess- Amanda> Micro, small head?
Dr.
Nelson> Small head and I guess that's the common name.
But a relative, Helianthus strumosus which has larger flowers and very, very beautiful... Both of these things could be, I think, figured into native plant gardens.
Amanda> All righty.
Dr.
Nelson> As well, down in the swampy areas, I've located a population of what's called Cayaponia.
But it's a vine in the cucumber family.
<Oh> And in the autumn, as in... late summer, <Yeah> it starts making its little berries which are about that big.
But they're the most brightest, brilliant scarlet color you can imagine.
Amanda> Oh, come on.
Dr.
Nelson> And birds eat them.
Amanda> Look at this picture, it's wonderful.
Dr.
Nelson> And it's really incredible <Delightful> and plenty of other things in the sunflower family, including doll daisy.
Amanda> Doll daisy?
Dr.
Nelson> Doll, D-O-L-L.
<Okay> And the scientific name of that is Boltonia.
It looks like a very tall, sort of an Aster-looking plant.
Very, aerish, you know, lots of branches and a tiny little, Aster blooms on it.
Several golden rods and- Amanda> And they, you know, they're short, they're tall, they're- And they're real attractive to insects.
And this is such a pretty one.
Dr.
Nelson> Right.
This one's Solidago leavenworthii.
Amanda> Leavenworthii.
Dr.
Nelson> Named for a botanist named Leavenworth.
Amanda> Okay, okay.
How lovely.
Dr.
Nelson> And then growing near the goldenrods that I saw was, a false foxglove.
A very, very pretty thing.
With sort of pinkish purple flowers- just go crazy for... Amanda> It's pretty.
Like, like foxes would put their little fingers inside or something.
So fox gloves.
Amanda> Yeah, that's sweet.
Dr.
Nelson> That's just scratching the surface.
So, I'm hoping to find even more later on this season and then beginning, as I said, next spring.
Amanda> Okay.
Well, isn't it wonderful that we have this place right here in South Carolina and that we're protecting some, several forests in our state?
<Right> Because we have a lot of people coming in, and we have a land that will be protected forever and available for people to go and enjoy.
<Right> But just check and be sure that when you're allowed to come and what you need to do to get there.
Dr.
Nelson> That's a good idea.
Because they do have schedules.
Amanda> That's perfectly fine, they should, keep everybody safe.
Dr.
Nelson> That's a good idea.
Amanda> Thanks a lot.
Dr.
Nelson> All right.
Well, thank you.
Amanda> I sure hope you'll join us next week.
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