
Policing in America Part 2
Season 5 Episode 513 | 2mVideo has Closed Captions
Connie Rice, national known civil rights attorney, returns to speak on police reform.
There have been calls nationwide for police reform this year. But is reform really the right idea? In this episode of Bonnie Boswell Reports, Bonnie sits down with Connie Rice, a nationally known Civil Rights Attorney, to discuss police transformation, rather than just reform.
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Policing in America Part 2
Season 5 Episode 513 | 2mVideo has Closed Captions
There have been calls nationwide for police reform this year. But is reform really the right idea? In this episode of Bonnie Boswell Reports, Bonnie sits down with Connie Rice, a nationally known Civil Rights Attorney, to discuss police transformation, rather than just reform.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipThere have been calls nationwide for police reform this year but is reform really the right idea?
Hello, I'm Bonnie Boswell, and to help answer that question is civil rights attorney Connie Rice.
Sh e has over 50 awards for her work with both police and community members.
Welcome, Connie.
So, Connie, I want to know-- Is police reform really the right idea?
There's like a list of 27 different reforms The Justice in Policing Act which for the first time set national standards for all 18,000 police departments.
Bonnie, those are all great things to do But, reform is not transformation No one should be dying for having dangling air freshners, a broken tail light, expired tags, loose cigarettes, a suspected $20 bill, if you want to change the actual conditions so that you don't see these videos anymore.
So there are police chiefs across the country who say reform is a good idea, but I'm curious--what about the beat cops?
What are they saying?
Police chiefs of major cities have changed their outlook.
The problem is the rest of the force has not changed the culture.
and I think it's very hard for them to hear any kind of message about change.
But it doesn't mean we don't make that message My job is to make this community healtier; that's what Chief Beck asked I want to know, instead of arrests ca n my community keep a kid out of the prison pipeline?
We've had 9 years of that kind of police, Bonnie, and it works.
The dehumanization that we saw in the videotape of Officer Chauvin murdering George Floyd that dehumanization starts way beyond the police department.
We have allowed these communities to get so de-funded that none of the institutions work.
th e community dies and the police also end up being dehumanized.
and once a community is objectified like that, yo u don't see the people in it as human beings.
Well we do have a long way to go, Connie, but understanding the broader picture really does help.
Connie will be back next week and we'll talk about the alternative model of policing For PBS SoCal, I'm Bonnie Boswell.
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