- Hi, thanks for joining us for The Family Plot: Gardening in the Mid-South.

I'm Chris Cooper.

Winters can be cold and hard on shrubs and other perennials.

Today, we're going to talk about how to protect them.

Also, goats can add a lively flare to the garden.

That's just ahead on The Family Plot: Gardening in the Mid-South.

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[upbeat country music] - Welcome to The Family Plot.

I'm Chris Cooper.

Joining me today is Dr. Kelly.

Dr. Kelly's a retired professor of horticulture, and Jeff Terry will be joining me later.

Dr. Kelly, always good to have you here.

- Yeah, it's great fun, always great fun.

- Oh, this is gonna be fun.

So winter is approaching, right?

- Yup.

- So how do we take care of our perennials and shrubs during the winter?

- It's always good to be prepared.

- Sure.

- And gardeners always, we're like farmers, we always watch them weather forecast.

- Right.

- So there are some things though you can do to be prepared, and the first thing that I would like to, or I do, usually, in my own garden, is to mulch, mulch things really good, and they say to wait until the ground begins to get a little cold before you do that, for some reason, I'm not sure why you do that, but you put the mulch down, and you don't cover the crowns of the perennials, obviously.

- Right.

- And you don't volcano mulch around the trunks of trees and shrubs.

Bark's not made to go below ground.

- Right.

[laughs] - Chris.

So it doesn't like it.

So don't do that.

So that kind of well, and then keep your plants watered during the winter because we do have dry spells, and it's always better when a plant has sufficient water when we have really cold winds.

It's particularly on evergreens, because the winds can desiccate, you know, the foliage pull the moisture out.

So it's always good to keep things watered, and that's something I think gardeners sometimes forget, because we don't think about that in the winter.

- I agree with that.

- But we can have dry weather.

- Yeah.

- So it's always a good idea to remove, you know, the old diseased portions of plants and to take some of the canopies off and get rid of that.

It gets rid of your pathogens and insects and things.

And the other thing you can do, like I say, watch the weather.

- Oh, yeah.

- And have on hand, because we could have one of those arctic blasts again, whatever the Farmer's Almanac says.

You know, last winter we had some really, really, really cold weather - Yes, we did, sure did.

- That really did some damage on plants, and this year, I'm gonna be prepared.

I'm gonna congregate a bunch of blankets, and you don't use plastic.

It doesn't really do a whole lot of good, and you need blankets and cheesecloth and row covers, and if you have big buckets or big tubs, I have some big nursery containers, you know, that I can flip over on the smaller, mid-size shrubs and things, and then cover that with a blanket.

- Okay.

- And make sure you do it before the sun goes down or late in the day because you can catch some of that ground heat.

- Got it.

- And always, and this is something that is hard sometimes to do, especially if you ain't got a big enough blanket, is to get it all the way to the ground, and- - Okay, good, 'cause I was gonna ask you about that, right?

- Yeah, yeah.

- 'Cause I heard- - 'Cause you're capturing as much heat as you can from the ground and the late afternoon, you know, heat.

- Right.

- And the first thing you do in the morning though is, obviously, if it gets a bluff reason, the sun comes out, you're gonna have to take all that stuff off.

Because it will do some damage, you know, to the foliage.

- Okay.

- So you can use cardboard boxes.

I've done that.

You can use, like I say, old nursery containers.

You can even use old coolers, bed sheets, you know, light drop cloths, that kind of thing, and secure the edges.

Water thoroughly, you know, before that, you know, if you know bad weather's coming, but the one thing that we have experienced that you really just can't seem, I mean just not a lot you can do is last winter, we had a sudden drop.

- Yes, we did, uh-hmm.

- Really, really fast, and the more sudden that drop is and the longer it stays down like it did in the negative temperatures, Fahrenheit, the more damage it's gonna do, because plants are just not acclimated to that quick of a drop.

- Right.

- You know, the thing about going into the fall is you kind of gradually, plants get a little acclimated, but when you have that crazy weather, you just need to be out there with all kind of stuff trying to protect, and then don't feel bad if it doesn't work, because I had a gardenia that had already been knocked back to the ground one time, and then last winter, here it came again, and so I covered that thing up.

I mean, his top was already dead.

I thought, "Well, I'm gonna cover up the base-" It still killed it.

- So what did you cover it up with?

- Well, I had a big nurse.

Well, see, the crown, you know, about that big with the, you know, stems coming up, and it was dead, so I cut all that off, and then I put my little mulch around it, and then I had a big old nursery container.

- Oh, so you used a container.

- It's a big tub actually.

Like, you know, cattlemen feed their cows, you know?

You get that kind of stuff.

So I had several of those, and then I put several blankets over that, and then I put bricks around for if there's a wind.

Still killed it.

- Still killed it.

- Still killed it.

I kept waiting- - That's a lot of work.

- Well, I know it is.

It is a lot of work.

It's a lot of mess and that to have to keep up with, [Chris laughs] but the other thing, and [chuckles] I know, in orchards, citrus orchards and things, they use big heaters.

You know, there big gas heaters they put out there, especially if things are blooming, to keep those blooms from freezing.

- Right.

- And that's real critical time, you know, for fruit set.

So you can do something like that.

If you've got... You know, it's going to get extreme, and let's say you are on the borderline with maybe a Meyer lemon or a sasanqua camellia or something that you know is really borderline, I have made a framework, you're talking about a big shrub, so make some kind of framework.

You can use old PVC pipe or you can just get old bean poles or whatever and make sort of a pyramid, especially if you're gonna have falling precipitation or freezing rain because, you know, that's heavy.

- Right.

- And if you could get a pyramidal shape over your shrub, that will help it kind of maybe slide off, or the snow fall off, or it'll help anyway.

And then you can put a little light bulb in there, an incandescent, don't use LEDs.

They don't get hot enough.

But put an incandescent bulb in there.

If it's not so far, you can, you know, run an extension cord, and that definitely helps.

- Oh, it helps.

- It does.

Now, don't burn the place down.

You know, don't put it next to the blanket or the cardboard box, obviously, and I've even used old Christmas lights.

- Oh!

- You know, the old incandescent bulbs.

- Yeah, yeah.

- They're coming back in style, yeah.

- They coming, yeah.

- You notice, you know?

- I see a lot of those lately.

- Yeah, yeah, an old LED lights, you know, that don't work.

So get the big old Christmas lights, and that definitely puts off some heat.

You know, if you had a fairly good-sized shrub, and then you really may not even have to cover it if it's not gonna get really, really, really cold weather with the wind blowing.

Of course, if it is, you'd wanna cover it to catch that heat, but you can do that.

I have done that.

- So you've done that.

- And hadn't burned anything down yet so.

[Chris laughs] Be really careful.

- So you gotta be careful.

So you know, you talk about the structures, right?

So what about structures for foundation planting?

So you have a roof, you got ice, you got snow.

I mean, could you build something like that to cover it?

- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Conceivably, you certainly could, you know, and further north, I'm sure they have a lot more, you know, of that kind of situation.

Down here, we don't get a lot of heavy snow, but up there, if you got like some foundation plants, you can build frameworks out of 2x4s or like I was talking about the pyramids, and then just, you know, cover that with a blanket, or you can cover it with even plastic, but you don't want the plastic to touch the plant because you get that cold effect, but yeah, you can build these little frames of pyramidal kind of frames, and then just, I guess store 'em during the summertime somewhere.

- Okay.

- But the idea is to keep that that slides off of the roof.

You know, the snow and the ice were falling and crushing, you know, your foundation plantings.

- Right, right.

- So you wanna build something that it will hit and maybe pfft.

- Yeah, slide down.

- Keep it from crushing or may help it to slide off.

- Okay.

Let's go over this one last point.

So remove the weeds, right?

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think it's a good idea to get rid of all the old weeds, because, you know, you don't want a bunch of old tall weeds around something you're covering up with a tent, 'cause you got little... You could have insects in there.

- Right, yeah.

- You know, and they're gonna eat your plant up.

You don't even know it.

Take the cloth off in the morning, and there's no leaf.

- Right.

- Nah, seriously, but, anyway, yeah, it's always a good idea to clean up the garden in the fall.

- Okay.

- And to get the plant residue up and remove the diseased limbs or whatever and do that kind of pruning.

- All right.

- You know, oh, one other thing I forgot to mention.

The winterizing fertilizers.

- Oh, yeah, okay, okay.

- They have done, apparently, used to, we always said, Chris, you don't fertilize in the late summer, you know?

You cause new growth.

It'd be tender for the cool.

Now, though, they're saying there's new research saying that the timing is really significant because it's a good thing they found out plants can utilize nutrients, even deciduous plants, because they store that in their roots, and then they pull on those reserves for the spring and the root growth during the winter.

- Yeah.

- And to do it after the first freeze.

- After the first freeze.

- Yeah.

So that, that way, the growth has really slowed down, even evergreens, you know, the growth has really slowed down after the weather gets really cold and you get those first few killing frost freezes, then the metabolism of that plant has slowed down.

So of course, deciduous plants don't even have any leaves.

So they're not gonna put any new growth.

What you don't want to do is put it like now when we're still having 80-degree days or when it's still real sunny, bright, warm days, because if you put a lot of like a complete fertilizer, which is, typically, a winterizing fertilizer, you know, they say just a complete fertilizer is good, or high in potassium because it promotes root growth.

So any and slow release is even better.

- Right.

- But to just wait until it's colder weather, because then you won't get that flush of new growth that could be more susceptible on your evergreens to the cold.

So I'm gonna, after the first freeze, I'm gonna put some winterizing fertilizer out.

- And then you're gonna come back and tell us how that works.

- I will, I will.

- Maybe I'll resuscitate that dead gardenia.

- Maybe you can do that, too, right?

[both laugh] Thank you so much, Dr. Kelly.

- Yeah, you're welcome.

- That's good information, good information, we appreciate that.

[upbeat country music] - As you might remember, a few weeks ago, we planted this bed and covered it with bird netting to protect it from deer and rabbits.

Well, just after we did that, the landscapers came and planted this whole bed right here in pansies, but you might be asking, "Why are there no pansies?"

Well, the deer came, and they ate them right outta the ground.

So yeah, looks like there's, what, five pansies left, four pansies left out of a hundred, but if you'll notice in this bed here with the bird netting, the deer didn't even touch it.

So I think we can conclude that this bird netting worked.

Now, if the deer get really hungry during the winter, it's quite possible that they'll tear the bird netting up, but until then, we're protected.

[upbeat country music] - Hi, Mr. Jeff, thank you for inviting us out.

- Thank you.

Thanks for coming out.

- We got goats.

[laughs] - We do.

We have finally got goats here on the farm.

- How about that?

- Got four of 'em.

- Okay.

- And this is thanks to a friend, Julie Lindow.

- All right.

- With Shady Creek Farms.

She donated these goats.

We've got Jasmine here.

- All right, Jasmine.

- We've got Blondie over there.

That's Pepper.

- All right.

- And this is Leo.

- Oh, he's right here.

- Leo's hanging out.

- Yeah, exactly.

He's hamming it up now so.

- So how about a little brief, you know, information, little basic information about goats to get us started.

- Okay, well, they're one of the first domesticated animals that's ever been.

I mean, we're talking 11,000 years ago, and that was the beginning of all these kind of domestication.

- Okay.

- Ever since then, they've been... Well, in the United States, they were brought over, probably around the time of the Mayflower.

We've got goats are just all over the place.

- Okay.

- Yeah.

- So let's talk about their eyes and their teeth.

- Yeah.

- And their stomachs.

How about that?

- Okay.

So they have rectangular eyes, which are kind of cool, but what it does, you know, they're a prey animal.

So they need good peripheral vision.

- Okay.

- And the flat eyes, the rectangle eyes give them about 340-degree peripheral.

- Wow, how about that?

- And they can see, basically, everything up to right behind them.

- Wow.

- Which is kind of cool.

- Wow.

- Their teeth and they're chewing on your shirt right there.

- Yes, appropriate timing.

- They only have one set of bottom teeth.

And then just on the top, they have no teeth whatsoever.

- Okay.

- This allows their lips on the top to grab thorny bushes and things like that, and they're sort of almost prehensile lips at the top.

- How about that?

- Yeah.

- And what about their stomachs?

- The stomach, they're a ruminant.

So they have four stomachs.

So that allows them to eat very fibrous stuff, so hay, things like that.

One of their favorite foods, again, is Bermuda hay.

They love to do that, and they can... What they do is, you know, consume the hay that goes into their first, into the rumen, which is their first stomach.

- Okay.

- That breaks down all of the fatty acids that could be consumed, then it goes into the reticulum, which is sort of the, it's called the honeycomb.

- Okay.

- And what that does is grind up the fibrous materials.

Then it's pushed on to the omasum, which is then that extracts water from the grains.

- Wow.

- Or from the grasses, and so they don't need as much water as well, they could be in arid climates.

- How about that?

- And not have to worry about that, and then it's finally into their true stomach, and then after that.

- Finally.

- Finally, it goes through all those stages.

- How about that, yeah.

- Yes.

- That's just so interesting.

- Yeah.

- What about the different breeds?

- Well, what we have here are the...

This one is a LaMancha goat.

- Okay.

- They were first introduced, or at least came in to registered as a breed in about 1927 out in California.

- Okay.

- And they have small ears.

They're called elf ears.

- Hmm.

- Or gopher ears, and these are not docked ears.

This is the way they were meant to be.

- Oh, wow.

- And the theory is that they came from Spanish missionaries that probably came out of the South into California back in the 1600s with a goat that was very similar.

It had, again, gopher ears like that.

- Okay.

- So that was probably the progenitor for these goats.

- Okay.

- For this breed of goat.

Then we have the dwarf Nigerians, and they're all over the place here, and they were brought into the United States about 1950 from West Africa.

- Okay, not too long ago, okay.

- Uh-hmm, and these, these are really great.

The LaManchas are great milking goats.

They have a higher butter fat content and just good producers.

The Nigerians are good, too.

These are boys, of course.

We don't milk them.

- Okay.

- And these guys are actually weathered.

They've have been fixed.

- Okay.

- Because one thing you don't want to have is a male goat anywhere near your milking stations.

They will foul the...

There's probably nothing smellier than a male goat.

[Chris laughs] They are absolutely the smelliest thing - Oh, my gosh.

- On the planet.

So early on, we had them fixed, and it makes them, also, a little bit more calm.

- Okay.

- The boys tend to... You know, if they go into a rut every so often.

They really have a shorter lifespan.

- Okay.

- They will live about... You know, they'll only live 8 to 10 years-- - That's all?

- If they go into a rut every year, so with fixing them as well, it makes 'em mellow.

It makes 'em real just calm, a little bit more docile, and also makes em live longer.

- Okay.

- Which all of these will probably live anywhere from 11 to 16 years.

- Eleven to sixteen years, okay.

- Yeah, especially with the milking goats.

We're not gonna leave... We're not gonna really do high production with these girls.

It'll probably just be for a little while, and then, you know, if you stop milking them by 10 years, they'll live for another... You know, they could live up to 16 years so.

- Wow, interesting stuff.

- Yeah.

- Look, so somebody's probably wondering, can I have goats in Shelby County?

- Well, that is a good question.

- Yeah.

- From what I have read, you can have a goat as long as you're not within 1,000 feet of another residence or business.

- Right.

- That's kind of hard to come up with.

We have it here at the farm park.

We're not anywhere near anybody, you know, at this stage, but I did read where if you could get a permit from the Shelby County Health Department.

- Okay.

- I have not been able to get in touch with them to confirm that.

I really want to tell anybody in Shelby County to try to get in touch and see if that's possible.

Before you even consider a goat, make sure that it's possible - Yeah.

- In your area.

As far as Fayette County or Tipton County, any of these places out further away, I doubt that there's even an issue at all.

You could probably have as many goats as you care to.

- Okay, so how do you house the goats here?

- Well, here we have, during the summertime, they stay in this little building here, and it's just sort of a three-walled shed, and it's got the hardware cloth inside, and, actually, it was a chicken coop.

- Oh, I can see that.

- But it really worked out.

The goats have taken it over, [Chris laughs] and they've enjoyed staying out here during the warm weather, but then we also have a stall in the barn that we bring 'em in when it gets cold.

- Okay.

- And then I can heat it just a little bit and at least keep 'em from being in the absolute cold.

Goats can weather a lot of...

I mean the only thing they don't like is rain.

- Yeah, it's interesting when you told us that earlier.

They don't like the rain, only that?

- They do not like rain.

It just bothers them to no...

I mean, I can barely get 'em in to the barn when it starts raining.

They don't wanna leave any kind of cover, and when they come out, they're just like hunkered down and just, oh, they absolutely hate the rain.

- They just don't wanna get wet.

Oh, my God.

- Yeah, they really don't.

- All right, well, look, I wanna ask you a couple of questions.

- Sure.

- About goat milk and goat meat.

- Oh, yes.

Goat milk is fantastic, you know, goats- - And I've had it before.

- It is, it's really good.

You know, it's naturally homogenized.

- Okay.

- So it doesn't separate out.

Lactose intolerant people can drink goats milk as well.

It is one of the...

It's probably the most consumed milk and meat on the planet.

There are more goats consumed than cattle.

- Really, did not know that.

- Without question, yeah, not necessarily in the United States, but all the rest of the world.

- Right, sure.

- They're definitely one of the most consumed animals.

- Wow.

- And they're great.

I've had goat meat before.

Not these, never these.

- Yeah, not these, yeah.

- These are my babies here.

- Yeah, yeah.

- But it was really good, and, yeah, goat milk raw, of course.

You know, we have to be careful with this.

I mean, you know, there's two sides of the fence on that one where raw milk is no problem, and then the other side of homogenizing or, at least, you know, heating up the milk.

- Yeah.

- And it's kind of around here is what we call it mooshine.

Sort of like if you, yeah, it's sort of on the... You can't have it just yet so.

- How about that?

I was in Italy and, you know, some years ago, and a lot of the milk that we drink was goat milk.

- Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, man.

- Yeah, I was amazed at that.

- Yeah, yeah.

- How about that?

- It is, it is fantastic.

It's very, very good.

- All right, but, yeah, we appreciate that good information about goats.

- Thank you.

- We appreciate you all babies.

- Thanks a lot.

- Hanging out with us.

- And they've been waiting - And they've been waiting.

Yeah, they've been waiting.

[both talk simultaneously] - As patient as they could.

- Raisins.

Their favorite treat.

- Oh, how about that?

- So if anybody's coming out to the farm park, bring some raisins.

- Bring some raisins.

Come on out into the farm park, y'all.

[Jeff laughs] Feed them the raisins.

Thanks a lot.

- Thank you.

- Appreciate that, Jeff.

Appreciate it.

- Thanks a lot.

[upbeat country music] At the end of the growing season, which is usually late fall or early winter, it's always a good idea to winterize your hose.

So what does that mean?

Well, number one, you want to make sure that you disconnect the hose or detach it from the spigot.

Second thing you want to do is you wanna make sure that you get all of the water out of the hose because when water freezes, of course, it's gonna expand, and that may cause your host to burst.

So the hump that I am creating here is allowing the water to actually drain downhill.

So once we get that done, then we can coil it.

We can bring it inside our garage or our storage areas for the winter.

[upbeat country music] All right, here's our Q&A segment.

Y'all ready?

- Yeah.

- These are some great questions.

Here's our first viewer email.

"Can I use 20 to 30% vinegar on tree suckers?"

And this is Bob.

He says he uses it to control weeds, Mr. D. So what do you think about that?

- Well, vinegar is acetic acid.

It has acetic acid in it.

- Uh-hmm.

- I assume it will kill tree suckers.

It's probably, since it's acetic acid, it's not systemic, so it would be like a contact herbicide.

- You're correct, you're correct.

- The only problem I have with it is it's not on the label.

If you look on the label of vinegar, it doesn't tell you that you can use it on tree suckers.

So where are we, Dr. Kelly?

- Yeah, yeah.

Not on the weed control either, you know?

But I know a lot of people use it for that.

- Yeah, a lot of people use it.

- And I even use it.

I think it's Epsom salt, some mix with it, to put it on places you will never grow plants, like on your patio.

- Yeah, yeah.

- Or walkway cracks or driveway cracks.

It will flat out kill, you know, weeds with using vinegar in a mixture.

I think it's Epsom salt.

- Magnesium.

- Right.

- Use it at your own peril, right?

- That's right, yeah.

- It's not on the label.

[Dr. Kelly laughs] - Yeah.

- So use it at your own risk is what we're saying there.

- Yeah, yeah.

- That's correct.

- It probably will work but... - Okay, own risk, all right.

- Can't condone it.

[laughs] - All right, all right.

Not on the label, all right.

Thank you for that question, Mr. Bob.

We appreciate that.

Here's our next viewer email.

"What are these small balls on my oak leaves?

They're all over my driveway and patio, too."

And this is Tom from Bartlett, Tennessee, and guess what Mr. Tom?

Guess what Mr. D has for us.

- I got 'em, ah, Tom.

- You got 'em.

- You know, I feel your pain.

[Chris and Dr. Kelly laugh] I feel your pain.

I don't know what about the weather conditions this year were so good, but these are galls.

These are little, small galls.

It's a small wasp, predatory wasp.

It stings this plant, lays an egg, and it causes the plant to...

It secretes a hormone and the plant creates the gall and the larvae of the wasp develops inside this gall, and, sometimes, they're large.

- Yeah.

- I've never seen as many as I've seen this year.

and I've lived in my house for nine.

- Is it just on the oaks?

- It's red oak, primarily the red oak is what I see them on, and I have several of those red oaks in my yard, but, completely, I agree.

It completely covers the driveway and the soil and the bare ground under the oak trees.

- And so they fall off.

- They fall off.

They come off, as a matter of fact.

- Wow.

- I mean, it's very easy to get them to come off.

They'll fall off on your hand, you know, and so they just... Get another one off there, but that's all it is.

It's not gonna hurt your oak trees.

- Yeah.

- It's not gonna kill the trees.

I don't recommend trying to spray 'em or anything.

Just blow 'em.

Get the blower out and blow 'em off.

- Just blow 'em off.

- Yup.

- Yeah, just one of those phenomenons, right?

- Yeah.

- Yeah.

- Maybe 'cause it's been so dry, I don't know.

You know, we've had some dry, dry weather.

- Yeah.

- We've had dry weather, but, you know, we may never see this infestation again, this heavy an infestation.

I saw it down on the Gulf Coast with bark lice one year on live oak trees and you know, and saw it with cigar case bearer on pecan trees one year.

You know, there's some things that you'll see- - Just flare up, yeah.

- Just flare up.

- The conditions are just right, yeah.

- And you may never see it again.

- How about that?

So there you have it Mr. Tom.

Appreciate that, Mr. D, with his own sample.

How about that?

[Dr. Kelly laughs] Here's our next viewer email.

"What is this plant?

It has fuzzy leaves and stems and takes two years to bloom."

This is Joseph from Farmington Hills, Michigan.

- Okay, Michigan, yeah.

- Michigan, yeah.

- That... - Yeah.

- All right, I want him to hear this.

- Oh, okay.

- Because down here.

- Pay attention, Joseph.

- Down here, that thing is called a Gloriosa Daisy.

- Uh-huh.

- It is Rudbeckia.

It's a Rudbeckia hirta.

- Uh-huh.

- H-I-R-T-A, and it's called a black-eye Susan, you know.

- Uh-huh, it's pretty.

- And down here it can actually overwinter.

You know, it did last winter in my garden in a darn pot.

- Really?

- And yeah, but down here, it blooms every year.

- Yeah, mine does.

- It doesn't take it two years.

- Yeah.

- Yeah, and it comes back.

It's a really big self sower of seed.

- Yeah.

- It just seeds all over the place, and that can kind of be a problem in some gardens.

It is kind of in mine, but, I mean, it's beautiful.

- I have, it is.

- You know, and if you get the one like he's got with that orange corolla around the... - It's pretty, yeah.

- Yeah, they're real pretty.

- Yeah, good picture, too.

- And he can save the seeds, you know, and use those, 'cause they're real good reseeders, but I'm sad he can't get it to bloom with that two years though.

He needs to come down here.

- Okay.

[Dr. Kelly laughs] 'Cause it'll bloom... - Blooms easy.

- One year, yeah, of course, long growing season.

- Yeah.

- You know?

- All right, there you have it, Joseph, Dr. Kelly, right?

Come on down here and grow that.

All right, so thank you for that question and the picture.

It's a beautiful picture, yeah.

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- It's a good picture.

- All right.

Dr. Kelly, Mr. D, we out of time.

That was fun.

- Yeah.

- That was fun, thank you all much.

- It was, good questions.

- Yeah, it's good.

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