>> WELCOME BACK TO FAMILY HEALTH MATTERS.

I AM SHELLEY IRWIN.

WITH ME TODAY, DEBORAH TIMMERMAN, STRESS MANAGEMENT STRAGGIST.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE, DEB.

DONE RASMUSSEN, ACCESS CENTER PROGRAM DIRECTOR AT NETWORK 180.

IMPORTANT IN OUR OWN BACKYARD.

EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PINE REST EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM, OF COURSE, PINE REST CHRISTIAN MENTAL HEALTH SERVICE IS IMPORTANT NECESSITY, ALSO, FOR US AS A RESOURCE, SO GENTLEMEN, GOOD DAY TO YOU.

HERE WE GO WITH A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC ON RESILIENCY.

DEB, TALK ABOUT YOU AND YOUR SERVICES ON THIS TOPIC?

>> WELL, I AM REGISTERED NURSE BY TRAINING AND ACTUALLY KNEEL THE WORLD OF STRESS MANAGEMENT FROM TEACHING AND WORKING WITHIN THE INTERDISCIPLINARY TEAM AND HELPING NURSES, OF COURSE, IT IS VERY STRESSFUL WORLD, THAT THEY WORK IN.

AND SO, MY FOCUS AND STRESS MANAGEMENT IS TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT STRESS IS, HOW IT SHOWS UP IN THEIR BODY, AND TEACH THEM COOL TOOLS TO HELP THEM SHIFT THAT REACTION TO A RESPONSE.

>> YES.

DON, SHARE BIT ABOUT YOUR ROLE WITH NETWORK 180?

>> SURE.

AM DIRECTOR OF THE CENTER.

I LOOK FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT NETWORK 180 IS.

IT IS KEN COUNTY COMMUNITY MENTAL HEALTH.

WE SERVE KENT COUNTY PRIMARILY.

WE HAVE A CRISIS CENTER THAT IS OPEN 24-7 INCLUDING MOBILE CRISIS THEM A GUESS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO HELP PEOPLE IN CRISIS.

WE ALSO DO ASSESSMENTS FOR PEOPLE LOOKING FOR INTENSIVE SERVICES FOR SEVERE METRO AND UNLESS, SUBSTANCE ABUSING ARE DISORDER TREATMENT AND DISABILITIES AND CARE.

THAT IS WHAT WE DO AT NETWORK 180.

Z WITH THIS TOPIC OF RESILIENCE.

>> SURE WILL.

I DIRECT THE EMPLOYEE ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

SOME WE HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED COMPANIES THAT CONTRACT WITH US BECAUSE IT IS REALLY HARD TO BE A PERSON AND EMPLOYEE AT THE SAME TIME SOME DAYS.

WHETHER THAT IS ONGOING STRESS THAT HAS BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE, OR IF IT IS A SUDDEN IMPACT CRISIS ARE WE'RE REALLY THERE TO HELP PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO REBOUND, TO FOSTER THAT RESILIENCE, SO THAT INDIVIDUALS AND WORK TEAMS AND COMPANIES CAN GET BACK TO FUNCTION.

>> YES.

>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS TOPIC OF RESKILLENCEY.

WHY IT IS IMPORTANT.

WHAT DO YOU DEFOON THE TOPIC AS.

I WILL START WITH YOU, DAWN.

>> RESILIENCY IS ABOUT REALLY HOW HOW PEOPLE HANDLE TRAUMA AND STRESS AND THE COPING MECHANISMS THAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE AS WELL AS OTHER TOOLS AND ATTRIBUTES AND MANY OF WHICH CAN BE LEARNED THAT HELP THEM GET BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL BASELINE OF FUNCTIONING AND BE THAT IS HOW WE DEFINE RESILIENCE, REALLY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

SPEAKING OF THE TOPIC OF RESILIENCE.

IF YOU WOULD, GIVE ME DEFINITION WE'RE AT THE WATERCOOLER.

TELL ME WHAT IT MEANS TO YOU.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I HAVE BEEN GIVING IT SOME THOUGHT AND PREPARATION FOR THIS PANEL AND IT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT, IT IS SKILLS, IT IS TRAITS THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE, OR LEARN TO HELP THEM WEATHER STRESS AND TRAUMA, IN PARTICULAR, SO REALLY EXTREME LEVELS OF STRESS AND GET BACK TO A BASELINE OR EVEN IF THEY HAVE NOT BEEN IN A STATE OF GOOD MENT AL HEALTH LEARNING THESE SKILLS CAN HELP THEM AND YOU CAN LEARN THEM AT ANY AGE AND DEVELOP THINGS RELATED TO RENCY EVEN LATER IN LIFE.

THAT IS THE EXISTING THING, REALLY, ABOUT REILENCY.

>> BOB, A DO YOU SHARE WHEN IT COMES TO RESILIENCE?

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT IS A SET OF DECISIONS AND SKILLS AND ACTIVITIES THAT TAKE, THAT PEOPLE DOLE, I THINK ITS THE ABILIY TO PREPARE FOR, ADAPT TO, AND GROW FROM HARDSHIP SO THINGS WE CAN DO TO HELP US, EVEN IF THINGS ARE GOING WELL, THAT BUILD MOMENTUM TO HELP US THROUGH HARD THINGS BUT WE HAVE INTENTIONALLY DO THOSE THINGS TO GROW.

>> RIGHT.

AND TO YOU, DISMEMBER YOUR ANSWER TO RESILIENCY IN SEN GENERAL?

>> YEAH.

TO ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND I WOULD AD, THAT WE CAN DO THINGS ON DALLY BUSIESES TO HELP US WEATHER THOSE UPS AND DOWNS OF LIFE, SOB THAT WHEN THOSE BIG THINGS HAPPEN, WE CAN ADAPT 2:00 AND RECOVER MORE QUICKLY.

>> ANOTHER BROAD QUESTION, WILL START WITH YOU, DEB, WHO NEEDS TO BE RESILIENT, SHOULD I SAY?

THEN, I AM KIND OF LOOK AT YOU, BECAUSE DEALT WITH SOME FLAM RELATED ISSUES, CAN WE START THERE?

>> SURE.

I THINK EVERYONE CAN BENEFIT FROM RESILIENCE.

WE NEVER KNOW WHEN LIFE IS GOING TO HAND US SOMETHING THAT IS UNPLANNED OR THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RECOVER FROM AND JUST THE OTHER DAY, THERE WAS THE SHOOTIN THAT HAPPENED AT THE GROCERY STORE.

SO IN TODAY'S WORLD, WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHEN THOSE BIG THINGS THAT GOING TO HIT US.

WE DIDN'T PLAN FAR PANDEMIC EITHER.

WE ALL HAD TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, SO WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE TRAUMA IN YOUR LIFE, THAT JUST ADDS A LITTLE, I THINK, ANOTHER LAYER, BUT WE ALL IMMEDIATED TO HAVE THAT SKILL SET, I THINK.

>> YES.

>> BOB, TO YOU ON THAT.

IF YOU WOULD EXPAND, PERHAPS, THOSE WITH EXISTING MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES.

WE NEED TO BUILD THE WALL EVEN HIGHER?

>> THINK THINK SO.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL HAD A WORST DAVE OUR LIFE.

AND SOMETHING JUST POPPED INTO YOUR HEAD.

YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAD IT.

FRANKLY, I HOPE THAT CONTINUES TO BE THE WORST DAVE YOUR LIFE.

WE ALL HAD IT.

WE HAD CHOICES AND SOME OF US DID WELL.

SOME OF US DIDN'T.

OR THERE WERE SITUATIONS WHERE WE DID OR WE DIDN'T.

IF I AM ALREADY WRESTLING WITH CERTAIN MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES.

HOPE FLIES HAVE LEARNED SOME SKILLS THAT WILL PREPARE ME AND EQUIP ME TO GET THROUGH THEM.

BUT, SOMETIMES I START WITH EVERYBODY ELSE WITH A HEAD START.

>> YES.

LET KNOW TURN TO YOU, DAWN, FOLLOWING ON THE TRAUMA.

IT IS RESILIENCE THAT APPLIES TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED TRAUMATIC EVENT?

>> NO, NOT AT ALL.

LEARNING HOW TO BE RESILIENT IS IMPORTANT FOR ALL OF US.

I THINK, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AS REGULAR HUMAN BEINGS WE ARE NOT NES ALLY TAUGHT ALL OF THE IMPORTANT SKILLS, BE THAT WOULD HELP SOMEBODY TO WHETHER I AM GOING STRESSED OR SOUTH CAROLINA LIKE A PANDEMIC.

THOUGH PANDEMIC, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR SOME PEOPLE, IT HAS CAUSED TRAUMA AND LOSES, LIKE GRIEF AND LOSS, FOR THOSE FOLKS, THEY NEED TO LEARN HOW TO BE RESILIENT, AND TO MANAGE AND COPE WITH THOSE LOSSES AND THE GREAF AND THE FLAM FOR THE REST OF US AND IT MAY JUST BE KIND OF A CHRONICALLY STRESSFUL SITUATION OR REQUIRING FLEXIBILITY THAT IS UNLIKE ANYTHING WE HAVE EVER SEEN, BUT REALLY, REALLY, IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT TRAUMA, IT IS REALLY ABOUT ANY KIND OF ADVERSE SORT OF EVENT THAT HAPPENS IN SOMEONE'S LIFE.

IT CAN ABEPLIED TO SOMETHING LIKE FAILURE IN THE WORKPLACE OR RELITIONAL LIKE A BREAKUP OR A DIVERSE AND BEING, BEING ABLE TO BE RESILIENT LEARNING THOSE SKILLS AND BUILDING UP THE ENVIRONMENT TO COPE IS IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE.

>> YES.

WELL, LET'S OPEN TEACH TOOL BOX AND CERTAINLY ASKS FOR SOME ACTION ITEMS TO BUILD UP RESILIENCE.

WILL START WITH YOU, DEB.

JUST BE BLUNT.

I AM STRESSED.

HOW DOW BEGIN TO BUILD UP RESILIENCE TO GET THROUGH THE NEXT DALON WE ARE IN A SHOOTING, WE'RE IN A PANDEMIC, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TOMORROW HOLDS?

>> ACTUALLY WITH BEING AWARE OF STRESS, I THINK USING STRESS AS INFORMATION.

SOMETIMES WE SEE STRESS AS A THING WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE.

LIKE, IN ALL TALLALITY, REALITY, WE NEED STRESS TO HELP US THRIVE, HO HELP US GROW.

WHEN WE CAN TAP INTO HOW WE ARE FEELING, AND PULL OUT A TOOL, TO USE WHEN WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF ENERGY, OR THERE IS TOO TOP OF COPE WITH.

AND WE RESERVE OUR INTERNAL BATTED RY, WE HAVE A LOT MORE ENERGY FOR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE LEFT.

THEN IT BECOMES A DRAINING THING.

>> YES.

WELL, BOB, WILL MOVE TO YOU.

WE HAVE YOU ANSWER THE SAME QUESTION, THEN, PERHAPS, HOW IMPORTANT IS IT THAT I BE AN OPTIMISTIC PERSON IN THESE TIMES?

>> WELL, OK. WELL, ONE THING I HAVE LEARNED, IN A LOT OF CAREERS FOCUSING ON THE AREA OF CRISIS RESPONSE, OK. OK, SO I WAS PRESENT FOR 13 YEARS OF THE WORLD SEA LARGEST PROVIDER OF THAT SERVICE.

SO, WE'RE ON A THEM A DID THAT.

I HAVE GONE TO MANY, MANY BANK ROBBERIES FOR EXAMPLE.

MYSELF AS A RESPONDER.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED.

IT IS NOT THE INCIDENT.

IT IS ABOUT THE IMPACT.

THE SAME INCIDENT HITS DIFFERENT PEOPLE DIFFERENT WAYS.

ONE IS CRYING ONE ISCUSSION.

ONE IS GEG LAL.

YOU MAY PLAY MUSICAL CHAIRS 24 HOURS LATER.

YOU KNOW SOME OF THE KEYS FOR DEALING WITH THIS THAT EXPECK TATION OF RECOVERY IS SO IMPORTANT.

PHYSICIANS WILL TELL YOU THAT PEOPLE WHO EXPECT TO GET BETTER ARE MORE LIKELY TO GET BETTER.

HAVING THAT COME ALONG SIDE OF YOU, CAN SUPPORT THE OPTIMISM, ENCOURAGE YOU AND NORMALIZE HOW WEIRD YOU FEEL NOW UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THIS STRESS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

YOU HAVE TO GET PAST SEEING HOW WHACKED OUT I FEEL RIGHT NOW.

HOW STRESSED I FEEL RIGHT NOW.

TO SEE THE HORIZON.

THERE IS HOPE FOR RECOVERY.

IN FACT I ANGRY FROM THIS.

THE TOPIC OF SOCIAL SUPPORTS , WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT SOCIAL SUPPORTS IN THESE TIMES.

>> YEAH.

A GREAT QUESTION.

>> IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT, I THINK, FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FEELING ISOLATED DURING THE PANDEMIC.

WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT WE HAVE BEEN LEARNING OVER THE YEARS.

SOCIAL SUPPORTS ARE FOR PEOPLE'S MENTAL HEALTH.

IT POSED A CHALLENGE.

THE GREAT THING SOME OF THE POSITIVE OUTCOMES HAS BEEN THE RISE OF AVAILABILITY OF TELEHEALTH FOR EX PEAL.

IF YOU NEEDED SOCIAL SUPPORT VIA THERAPY, FOR EX PEAL.

YOU CAN DO IT LIKE WE'RE HAVING OUR MEETING NOW.

WE ARE NOT IN THE SAME BUILDING.

WE ARE TALKING PACE TO FACE.

THAT IS ONE WAY TO HAVE SOCIAL SUPPORT.

TALKING ON THE OR FACE TIMING WITH THE INTERNET, TOO.

THAT INCREASE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT WITH GROUPS OF PEOPLE THEY WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN EVER GLOBALLY SPEAKING.

MAYBE WHO HAS BEEN IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SITUATION OR SOMEONE WHO LOST SOMEBODY.

AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, STRUGGLES WITH ALCOHOL ISSUES ANOTHER CAN OF GO TO AA MEETING ON-LINE.

SOCIAL SUPPORTS ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND THEY LOOK DIFFERENT TO EACH PERSON.

SO FOR SOME PEOPLE THEY MAY RELY ON THE FAMILIES.

OTHERS MAY BE A SPONSOR FROM AA AND OTHER PER PERSON THEY MAYBE INTROVERT AND THEY DON'T GO OUT TO BIG FUNKS ANYWAY.

AND EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

YES.

YES.

FOLLOW-UP ON THE SUPPORT SYSTEM.

BRING IN THE ROLE MOD?

>> YEAH.

YEAH.

SO I THINK ANOTHER THING THAT HAS BEEN A BENEFIT FROM WITH THE SUPPORT SYSTEM.

PEOPLE ARE STAYING HOME MORE.

THEY GOT A CHANCE TO MEET NEIGHBORS SO WE GET A LOT OF SOCIAL SUPPORT RALLIED AROUND WHAT IS HAPPENING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

THEY HAVE DONE CREATIVE THINGS WITH SOCIAL DISTANCING IN DRIVEWAYS.

GETTING THEIR KIDS TOGETHER IN THAT WAY AS WELL.

I HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF LOT OF TRAINING AROUND HEALTHY PARENTS WHO ARE WORKING FROM HOME, TRYING TO BALANCE ALL THE THINGS MAYBE THEY ARE DOING A ZOOM CALL IN ONE WAY AND GOT A NANNY WATCHING THE TWO-YEAR-OLD IN ANOTHER.

HOW DO YOU MANAGE THAT REALLY DOING EDUCATION AROUND AND IT IS REALLY SPORNT TO TAKE CARE OF OUR SEVERALS FIRST AND WHOP HE A AT HOME MODELING WITH OUR CHILDREN RIGHT NOW SO SUPER IMPORTANT THEY LEARN FROM US.

IT IS GREAT TIME TO BRING IN NEW THINGS AND NEW TOOLS TO TEACH THE KIDS AS WELL.

AT WHAT POINT DOW ASK FOR HELP?

I AM BRING IN SUPPORT SYSTEMS.

DOING WHAT I HEAD TO DO.

I MIGHT NEED THE HELP OF PINE REST?

WHAT NICE ACTION OUT OF SNEER WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO DOVE THAIL TO THE LAST QUESTION.

WE ARE THE LAST PERSON WHO KNOWS.

IF YOU HAVE GOOD SOCIAL SUPPORT THE WAY YOU THINK, BEHAVE, YOU FEEL.

HUMBLE YOURSELF ENOUGH TO ASK FOR THAT KIND OF FEEDBACK AND SO HOW DO YOU KNOW?

WELL, LIKE, IT COMES STUFF TO GOOD GRANDMOTHER.

CAN YOU EAT?

CAN YOU FUNCTION?

CAN YOU CONCENTRATE.

DO YOU TREAT PEOPLE NICELY.

WHAT'S THE MOOD AND ENERGY LEVEL.

WELL IF YOU ARE SEEING A SIGNIFICANT DIP THAT MAINTAINS ITSELF THAT IS A GOOD TIME TO ASK FOR HELP.

I AM GOING TO SAY ASK FOR HELP BEFORE YOU NEED IT.

THAT CAN CARRY YOU THROUGH HARD TIME.

PEOPLE AC AMONG THE STRESSORREST THERE GOING THROUGH.

THEY DON'T STABBED AND PRETEND.

THEY DON'T SAY FINE.

THEY SAY, I NOT DOING SO WELL.

IN WE TALK THEN THE RESOURCE CAN BECOME AVAILABLE.

>> WONDERFUL.

OTHER PIECES IN THE TOOLBOX.

GET YOUR SLEEP.

EAT HALFWAY DERECENTLY.

MOVE.

TELL ME MORE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WAY.

ALL OF THOSE ARE PROBABLY THE MOST POLLEN, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF SLEEP, EATING AND MOVING YOUR BODY GETTING OUTSIDE AND CONNECTING WITH NATURE IS REALLY KNOWN TO BE PIVOTAL FOR PEOPLE'S MENTAL HEALTH AND FOR THEIR PHYSICAL WELL-BEING.

YOU KNOW, AND TALKING.

TALK.

YOU KNOW, LIKE HAVING AN OUTLET.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TALKING TO US.

SOCIAL SUPPORT.

COULD BE JOURNALING.

AND, AND, ONE THING THAT I DO THINK IS IMPORTANT TO MANSION WHEN WE ARE FALKING THINGS ABOUT OPTIMISM.

IT IS JUST RECOGNIZING IF SOMETHING DOES GO THROUGHING A SERIOUSLY TRAUMATIC EVENT OR A LOSS OR HAVING GRIEF, ALLOWING ONE'S STOLE HAVE THOSE DIP FEELING IF AND SAD FEELINGS.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO ALWAYS BE OPTIMISTIC IN ORDER TO BE RESILIENT AT ONE OF THE MUST IMPORTANT PIECES OF TRAUMA IS RECOGNIZING THAT SOUTH CAROLINA MAJOR HAS HAPPEN AND NORMAL TOLL HAVE FEELINGS ABOUT IT AND SHAKE THE WORLD VIEW.

WHEN YOU HAD THE FEELINGS AND HAD PEOPLE AROUND YOU WHO ARE ABLE TOKER THAT.

VALIDATE YOU OR SEE YOU IN TERMS OF STRUGGLES IS MUCH EASIER THAN TO MOVE INTO MORE OF SORT OF A RECONCILIATION AND A MOVE TO RECOGNIZING WONDERFUL.

IF YOU CAN RESPOND TO A COUPLE OF THEM MORE PIECES TO THE TOOLBOX, DEB, SMALL HABITS EVERY DAY.

THIS IS IMPORTANT?

I THINK SO.

IF WE KNOW WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A STRESSFUL DAY AT WORK.

TAKE TIME IN THE MORNING TO PREP OURSELF FORCE THE DAY.

SETTING INTENTION FOR HOW WE WANT TO SHOW UP IN THAT DAY.

THEN, MAYBE DOING A LITTLE WORK, A LITTLE MEDITATION, OR A LITTLE SPIRITUAL ENGAGEMENT IN READING FOR THE DAY REALLY HELPS SET THE TONE.

I AM A FIRM BELIEVER.

I HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS.

MAKES AL THE DIFFERENCE THE WORLD ABOUT HOW I CAN SHOW UP AND BE PRESENT FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE HAVING ISSUES THAT DAY.

>> I DON'T HAVE BEEN TO WORRY ABOUT MY OWN BATTERY.

CAN SHOW UP FOR THEM.

>> YES.

>> BOB, FAITH WAS ALSO SUGGESTED THANKS TO MY FRIEND SHANNON, CAN TALK ABOUT HOW FAITH PLAYS THE ROLE?

>> WELL, I CAN.

YOU KNOW, THEY FIND THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE RESILIENT TEND TO BE MISSION DRIVEN.

THEY TEN TOP HAVE A COMMITMENT TO SOME CAUSE, THAT IS BIGGER THAN SELVES.

ME, ME, ME, CENTERED FOLKS ARE NOT RESILIENT.

THEY DONE THIS OF ME REAL QUICK.

OTHER PEOPLE DOM IN THE OF YOUR ME EVEN QUICKER.

AND SO FAITH CAN BE WONDERFUL SOURCE.

AND WITHIN AGE SO, IT IS WONDERFUL MOTIVATOR IN TERMS OF HAVING A WHY FOR WHAT?

YES CAN HELPFUL.

>> ONE RECOMMENDATION IF YOU CAN FOLLOW UP ON, DON, WAS TO STAY IN THE PRESENT AND WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT?

>> YEAH.

YEAH.

YOU THINK THAT RELATES TO THE IDEA OF MINDFULNESS BECAUSE OFTEN TIME IF YOU ARE STUCK IN THE PAST OR ANXIOUS ABOUT THE FUTURE, YOU ARE MISSING OUT ON WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.

THEN, ALSO, WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW, IS SORT OF ONLY ONE THING.

RIGHT NOW, I AM IN A ZOOM MEETING.

I AM WITH YOU GUYS.

WE'RE DISCUSSING RESILIENCY.

I AM NOT WORRYING ABOUT MEETINGS THAT I HAVE LATER.

AN ISSUE WITH MY KIDS AND ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO LEARNK TO MINDFUL AND LEARNING OTHER SORTS OF TOOLS.

SORT OF THE IDEA THAT YOU YOUR FEELINGS ARE NOT PERMANENT SO IF YOU STAY IN THE PRESENT AND YOU LET.

YOU RECOGNIZE THAT IF YOU ARE HAVING STRUGGLING WITH SOME FEELING LIKE, YOU KNOW, SADNESS OR ANXIETY.

IT IS NOT GOING TO LAST FOREVER.

AND SO IF YOU JUST SIT WITH IT.

IT WILL, THE LESS ENERGY YOU GIVE IT IN TERMS OF ACCEPTING IT.

IT WILL DISSIPATE.

SO I THINK THAT SORT OF BEING IN THE PRESS SIN REALLY USEFUL TOOL TO PRACTICE BUT IT DOES TAKE PRACTICE TO KEEP BRINGING YOURSELF BACK TO THE PRESENT BECAUSE IT IS EASY TO BE DISTRACTED TODAY.

>> WELL, BOB, BE WHAT ABOUT MEGAN'S ADVICE, MAKING AND ENFORCING HEALTHY BOUNDARIES WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

>> WELL, KNOW, JUST BEFORE COVID HAPPENED, I SPOKE AT A MILITARY RESILIENCE CONFERENCE AT JOINT BASE ANDREWS IN WASHINGTON, D.C. TOUGH CROWD.

A THOUSAND PEOPLE WEARING CALM KNOW PACKING HEAT.

THREE-STAR GENERAL AND HE WAS SPEAKING ABOUT HOW DID HE ADD AT THE TOP FOSTER RESILIENCE OF HIS OFFICERS AND HE SAID, I TELL MY PEOPLE TWO THINGS, GATHER YOUR TROOPS.

THEN DIG A MOTE.

THEN, SO, HE WAS NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, BE A SNOB.

MARGINALIZE PEOPLE.

WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS WE ALL HAVE RELATIONSHIPS THAT DO MAKE US BETTER.

IRON SHARPENS IRON.

WE HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WHERE WE ARE SUPPORTED AND DIFFICULT TOLL HEAR FEEDBACK BUT ALSO RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE TOXIC OR ABUSIVE OR WILL NEVER AM GROW PAST SUPERFICIAL.

SOCIETY SETHING THOSE BOUNDARIES INTRAPERSONALLY AS WELL AS SCHEDULE-WISE WRECKS PECK TAGS FOR YOURSELF CAN HELPFUL.

WE CAN'T DO IT ALL.

WE CAN'T TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY.

>> WONDERFUL.

>> TAKING NOTES.

DEB, YOU A CERTIFIED AM EASY PRACTICE LEADER.

EXPAND ON, AGAIN, THIS TYPE OF ART, OTHER TYPES OF MOTIONS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IN THESE TIMES.

>> YEAH.

SO IT IS ACTUALLY AL COLLECTION OF TOOLS THAT FARM PRACTICE AND IT IS JUST A MOVEMENT OR FORM AND THAT MASSAGE SAN BREATH WORK, SO COMBINATION OF THOSE FOUR THINGS THE CHI CHINESE BELIEVE EACH OF US HAVE A SPACE INSIDE OF US.

WE CAN GET QUIET, WE CAN FEEL OURSELVES THEN SO ALL OF THOSE FOUR THINGS HELP US TO DOWNSHIFT THE NERVOUS SYSTEM, GETTITE, RESET, AND I THINK JUST KIND OF REJUVENATE AND RENEW.

SO I LOVING THAT PRACTICE FOR THAT REASON.

>> YES.

WHAM ABOUT THE KIDS?

I HAVE FEELING RIGHT ARE RIGHT AWAY, OBVIOUSLY ADULTS HEED TO SERVE AS ROLE MODELS WHAT ARE TOOLS FOR OUR KIDS TO BE RESILIENT.

>> WELL, WELL, YOU KNOW, KIDS NEED WHAT ADULTS NEED, REALLY?

IN THE CASE, TEACHING THEM HOW TO WEATHER LAUGH'S CHALLENGES AND THAT IS ONE OF THE PRIMARY FUNCTIONS OF A PARENT, REALLY, AUN POE, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE WANT TO PROTECT THEIR KIDS FROM EVERYTHING, BUT AS THE DOCTOR MENTIONED IN THE PROGRAM EARLIER AND YOU OH, FOLK YOUR KID FROM EVERY STRESS AND EVERY CHALLENGE IS REALLY GOING TO INTENTIONALLY INHIBIT THEIR GROWTH AND SO WE CAN HELP THEM BY BEING ROLE MODELS BY LETTING THEM SEE US.

WHETHER CHALLENGES OR USE HEALTHY COPING SKILLS LIKE ARE TALKING ABOUT HAVING DAILY HABITS AND EXERCISING AND REACHING OUT FOR SUPPORT AND WE CAN HELP THEM A LOT BY VALIDATING THEIR FEELINGS, YOU KNOW?

NOT GETTING STUCK IN SOME, YOU KNOW, DRAMATIC EXPRESSIVE FEELING BUT TO VAL IT DID AND DO ACTIVE LISTENING LIKE I SEE YOU ARE UPSET ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED ON THE PLAYGROUND TODAY.

YEAH.

THAT IS AWFUL WHEN YOUR FRIEND SAYS SOMETHING MEAN BUT ON FACEBOOK OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, ON WHATEVER SOCIAL PLATFORM.

BEING THERE, BEING THEIR SOCIAL SUPPORT SAN RECOGNIZING IMPORTANCE OF THEIR FRIENDS AS THEY GET OLDER HELPING THEM FACE FEARS, THOSE WILL ALL HELP FOSTER RESILIENCY IN KIDS.

>> BOB, CAN YOU ALSO RELATE TO THE KIDS AND THEN, ALSO, A QUESTION WITH YOUR NIHE WHAT IS SPECIFIC FOR SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO DO THEIR JOB SO WELL.

>> WELL, POE, THE MORE PEOPLE ARE, THE MORE THEY LOOK TO LEADERS THE MORE THEY LOOK TO PEOPLE THEY RESPECT.

AND THEY TAKE THEIR CUE FROM THAT PERSON.

WHETHER IT IS A PARENT, SUPERVISOR, A CEO, SYSTEMS THIS RY HAPPENS.

IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT AS THE MORE SHAKEN PEOPLE ARE.

THE LESS THEY LISTEN AND THE MORE THEY WATCH THE AUDIO HAS TO MATCH VIDEO.

YOU CANNOT SAY THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.

THEY NEED TO SEE IT FROM YOU.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT RAGE ISOCON TINGOUS.

SO IS CALM.

THIS IS HARD.

YEAH.

THIS IS DIFFICULT.

YEAH.

I HAVE FEELINGS ABOUT IT.

YEAH.

YES.

IT IS HURTING ME AND I EXPECT WE ARE GOING TO BE OK. YOU CAN TRUST ME TO DO MY BEST TO KEEP ME SAFE.

ALMOST THAT IS EMPLOYER OR PARENT.

THAT IS IMPORTANT MESSAGE.

>> WONDERFUL.

READY FOR THE WINDING DOESN'T AND WILL SAY GOOD-BYE TO YOU, BOB.

I KNOW ON THE WEBSITE.

THERE IS A WHOLE VIDEO SERIES ON BEHALF OF YOUR PINE REST.

CAN YOU LEAVE WITH US THE QUICK FINAL THOUGHT AND CONNECTION TO GET MORE INFORMATION.

SURE WILL.

WILL JUST SAY, BE INTENTIONAL BILLION YOUR RESILIENCE.

I HAVE FIVE THINGS THAT TRY TO DO EVERY DAY.

WHEN HIT THE PILLOW.

GRADE MYSELF.

LE FAITH, FAMILY, FRIENDS,NESS AND FUN.

AND FIZZ DO THOSE FIVE THINGS DOW BETTER.

OK.

FAITH, FAMILY, FRIENDS, FITNESS FUN.

PEOPLE CAN REACH ME THROUGH PINE REST.

I WILL GIVE YOU MY CELL NUMBER.

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HOPE TO BE HELPFUL.

THANK FOR THAT.

WHAT DO YOU LEAVE USES WITH?

WELL, YOU REALLY CAN MAKE BIG CHANGES WITH SMALL HABITS IN HAVING THE TOOLBOX GO THE LONG WAY AT MAKING THAT HAPPEN AND YOU CAN REACH ME ON MY WEBSITE CALLED LESS STRESS IN LIFE.COM.

ALL THE INFORMATION IS THERE.

>> YOU ARE A STRESS MAST ARE ASSOCIATE SH.

>> THAT IS A COMPLIMENT.

>> THANKS, DEB FOR AND THE COMMENTS I LEAVE YOU A COUPLE OF MINUTES DONE ON THE BEHALF OF NETWORK 80 TO FILL UP THE TOOLBOX.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO EMBRACE THE IDEA THAT RECOVERY IS POSSIBLE AND IT IS POSSIBLE IT DOES HAPPEN AND IT CAN HAPPEN AT ANY POINT AND TIME FOR ANY ONE IN ANYBODY'S LIFE, 1:00 IF YOU ARE IN CRISIS AND NEED HOPE.

NETWORK 180 IS THERE.

WE HAVE ACCESS SHEP LINE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING OR NEED TO TALK.

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AND THERE IS HELP AVAILABLE.

LE THERE ARE PEOPLE READY TO DO THAT.

ANY TIME.

ANY DAY.

ANOTHER QUICK BYE TO YOU.

YES.

IN PARTNERSHIP.

EIGHT THREE MINUTE VIDEOS IT ON THE WEBSITE.

CAN I SECOND IT TO YOU.

YOU CAN STOP IT ME.

THEN, IS ON THE WEBSITE.

OXLEY, OUR VICAR WILL FIND IT AND NO WOR TROYCE THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU ALL ON BEHALF OF THIS VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC, AGAIN, THANK THOSE FACEABLE FRIENDS, DON'T FORGET TO THINK AND ACT ON THE HELP OF OTHERS.

DON'T FORGET TO PRAY AND CERTAINLY READ ABOUT THE INFORMATION ON ALL OF YOUR WEBSITES.

SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO.

GET THROUGHOUT.

BE RESILIENT TODAY TO YOU, BOB, AND DEB, AND DON.

THANKS FOR THE GOOD WORDS.

THANKS SO MUCH.

>> THANK.

>> THANK FOR.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.