
Roger Lyons Interview
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Steven Feinberg sits down to interview producer and writer, Roger Lyons.
Steven Feinberg, executive director of the Rhode Island Film and TV Office, sits down to interview producer and writer, Roger Lyons. His work includes Etched in Glass: The Legacy of Steve Ross (2017), Heroes Around Us (2017), and Digital_Man/Digital_World (2011). His most recent work, Robert Brustein: A Celebration, was released in 2021.
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Roger Lyons Interview
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Steven Feinberg, executive director of the Rhode Island Film and TV Office, sits down to interview producer and writer, Roger Lyons. His work includes Etched in Glass: The Legacy of Steve Ross (2017), Heroes Around Us (2017), and Digital_Man/Digital_World (2011). His most recent work, Robert Brustein: A Celebration, was released in 2021.
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STEVEN: HI, I'M STEVEN FEINBERG, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE RHODE ISLAND FILM AND TELEVISION OFFICE.
OUR GUESS THAT IS AN AWARD-WINNING FILMMAKER.
HE DOES PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS, DOCUMENTARIES, ALL KINDS OF TELEVISION WORK.
HE MOST RECENTLY DID A FANTASTIC DOCUMENTARY CALLED "ETCHED IN GLASS: THE STEVE GLASS STORY."
ROGER LYONS, WELCOME.
ROGER: HAPPY TO BE HERE.
STEVEN: HAPPY YOU ARE HERE AS WELL.
ROGER, YOU WORK AND LIVE PRIMARILY IN MASSACHUSETTS.
ROGER: CORRECT.
STEVEN: YOU MADE THIS FANTASTIC DOCUMENTARY WHICH WE WILL GET INTO, BUT HOW DID YOU START GETTING INTO FILMMAKING?
ROGER: IT GOES BACK TO MY SENIOR YEAR IN UNIVERSITY WHAT I WAS DOING A FILM.
MY VERY FIRST FILM WAS A 30-SECOND PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR PRISON REFORM.
I GOT MY CAMERA, AND FOR SOME REASON, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE OK TO GO TO UPSTATE NEW YORK TO PRISON AND SHOOT THE PRISON.
WHEN A GUARD CAME SCREAMING, WAVING HIS ARMS, SAYING DON'T SHOOT, YOU CANNOT DO THAT HERE, I REALIZED IT WAS EXCITING TO DO A DOCUMENTARY PRODUCTION.
I KIND OF WANTED -- IT SET ME OFF ON THE DESIRE TO DO THAT.
IT TOOK 40 SOMETHING YEARS LATER BEFORE I DID THIS FILM, WHICH WAS MY OWN DOCUMENTARY I STARTED 18 YEARS AGO.
STEVEN: YOU HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS AWARDS.
YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE GOVERNOR'S AWARD FROM THE ACADEMY.
IT IS AN EMMY BASICALLY.
ROGER: YEAH, BUT A LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD KIND OF THING.
STEVEN: YOU DO OTHER KINDS OF PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
YOUR COMPANY IS CALLED MANY HATS.
ROGER: WE DO LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
COMMERCIALS, PSA'S, MARKETING TAPES, SPECIALS AND SO FORTH.
THIS DOCUMENTARY.
STEVEN: IS IT VERY IMPORTANT -- IT SEEMS TO BE IMPORTANT, THERE SEEMS TO BE A THEME ABOUT SOCIAL RELEVANCE.
IS THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU?
IS THAT WHY -- ROGER: I WILL TELL YOU THE REASON WHY I DECIDED TO DO THIS FILM.
I WAS WORKING AT WBSE AS THE DIRECTOR OF COMMERCIAL PRODUCTION.
CAME ACROSS WITH THIS IDEA OF DOING ONE MINUTE PROFILES OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE EXTRAORDINARY THINGS IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
I DIDN'T HAVE A BACKLOG OF PEOPLE TO CALL.
I CALLED A FRIEND OF MINE, RAND ROSS.
SHE'S AN ACTRESS AND TEACHER AND SO FORTH.
SHE SAID, WHY DON'T YOU GIVE STEVE ROSS A CALL?
I DID.
AFTER A TWO HOUR PHONE CALL WITH STEVE WHERE HE TOLD ME HIS LIFE STORY, I MET HIM AT THE NEW ENGLAND MEMORIAL IN DOWNTOWN BOSTON.
DID A VERY SHORT INTERVIEW AND THOUGHT THERE IS SUCH A LONG, DEEP, COMPELLING STORY THAT SOMEDAY, SOMEBODY SHOULD DO A DOCUMENTARY ABOUT THIS GUY.
STEVEN: JUST OF THE AUDIENCE KNOWS, STEVE ROSS WAS A SOCIAL WORKER WORKING ON THE STREETS.
HIS BACKGROUND, HE IS A HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR.
ROGER: 10 CONCENTRATION CAMPS.
STEVEN: WE WILL GET INTO THAT IN THE SECOND SEGMENT.
BUT, HE EMIGRATED TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND DECIDED HE WOULD NOT ONLY GET AN EDUCATION, BUT HELP KIDS IN TROUBLE.
ROGER: THAT IS BASICALLY THE STORY OF HIS LIBERATION THAT KIND OF SPAWNED HIS RESILIENCE TO HELP OTHER KIDS, AT RISK KIDS, BUT NOT IN THE SITUATION HE WAS IN.
HE WOULD GO LECTURE IN INNER-CITY SCHOOLS.
LOTS OF DISADVANTAGED KIDS WHO FACED POVERTY AND CRIME AND SO FORTH.
WHEN THEY HEARD STEVE'S STORY ABOUT WHAT HE WENT THROUGH AND 10 CONCENTRATION CAMPS, THEY THOUGHT THAT IS NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT THIS GUY HAS GONE THROUGH SO I CAN MAKE IT, TOO.
THAT IS PRETTY MUCH THE WAY STEVE GOT PEOPLE TO REALIZE THAT EDUCATION AND DOING POSITIVE THINGS IS THE WAY TO GO, AND FIGHT HATE.
STEVEN: AND THERE'S A WAY OUT OF THEIR CIRCUMSTANCE AND FIGHTING HATE WHICH I THOUGHT THAT THE DOCUMENTARY IS SO POWERFUL.
IT IS CALLED "ETCHED IN GLASS: THE LEGACY OF STEVE ROSS."
IT IS A WONDERFUL FILM.
YOU JUST FINISHED IT.
IT PREMIERED AT THE RHODE ISLAND INTERNATIONAL FILM FESTIVAL.
ROGER: IT WON BEST DOCUMENTARY.
STEVEN: NOW YOU ARE GOING OUT AND ABOUT THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES.
ROGER: WE ARE GOING TO OTHER FESTIVALS FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.
PROBABLY INTO THE SUMMER.
AND TRYING TO GET A DISTRIBUTOR TO HELP US SPREAD THE WORD BECAUSE THIS IS A FILM THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE SEEN IN THIS AGE OF RISING ANTI-SEMITISM, HATE, DIVISIVENESS AND SO FORTH.
STEVEN: RACISM.
I THOUGHT OF THE NATO IDEA OF AN ATTACK ON ONE IS AN ATTACK ON ALL.
I THINK WHEN YOU ATTACK ONE GROUP, NO MATTER WHAT THAT GROUP MIGHT BE, IT IS AN ATTACK ON ALL OF US AS AMERICANS OR HUMAN BEINGS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SHOW THE TRAILER TO HER AUDIENCE AND THEN COME BACK -- OUR AUDIENCE AND THEN COME BACK AND CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION.
ROGER: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
♪ >> WHEN I WAS NINE YEARS OLD, GERMANY INVADED POLAND.
I WAS INCARCERATED IN 10 SLAVE LABOR DEATH CAMPS.
IT WAS RELENTLESS FOR FIVE YEARS.
ONE TIME, I STOLE A POTATO.
A GUARD SAW ME AND HE GAVE ME 25 LASHES WITH A LEAD PIPE.
SEVERAL TIMES, I WAS GOING TO BE MURDERED BUT I MANAGED TO GET AWAY.
>> I CANNOT FATHOM ALL THE STUFF YOU WENT THROUGH.
>> AFTER I WAS RESCUED FROM HELL, I CAME UPON A SOLDIER THAT SHOWED ME COMPASSION.
HE GAVE ME A FLAG.
AMERICA BROUGHT ME HERE AND SAID I AM HUMAN.
I DIDN'T HAVE A PENNY.
I HAVE NO PLACE TO LIVE, BUT I LIVED IN THE CAR WHEN I ATTENDED UNIVERSITY.
I MADE SOMETHING OF MYSELF AND YOU CAN DO THE SAME THING.
>> STEVE WAS A SOCIAL WORKER AROUND THE TIME STARTED GETTING IN TROUBLE.
>> WHEN I WAS 14, I HAD STOLEN A CAR.
THAT WAS THE CATALYST THAT BROUGHT STEVE ROSS INTO MY LIFE.
>> HE MADE YOU FEEL IMPORTANT.
>> I WAS JUST AMAZED HE DECIDED TO DEVOTE HIS LIFE TO UPPING KIDS LIKE US.
>> DECEIT SOMEBODY ACTUALLY -- TO SEE SOMEONE ACTUALLY HERE REACHES ME.
>> TO TELL THE WORLD OF ALL THE ATROCITIES.
>> PROPOSING THIS HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL, STEVE WAS THE QUARTERBACK OF THE TEAM.
>> THE SIX TOWERS, THE NUMBER 6 MILLION, THE SIX POINTED STAR, THE SIX DEATH CAMPS.
>> I JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU THE LITTLE FLAG THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME BY A SOLDIER.
>> THAT'S WHAT HE GAVE HIM, HE GAVE HIM A FLAG.
>> I HAVE SEARCHED FOR THIS ANGEL FOR MANY YEARS.
>> IF THIS REALLY IS MY GRANDFATHER, HE'S BEEN SEARCHING FOR 67 YEARS.
♪ >> DON'T GIVE UP YOUR EDUCATION.
STICK WITH IT.
STEVEN: IN OUR NEXT FILM, WE MADE A 60-YEAR-OLD FLEDGLING STORM CHASER AND TECH A LOT ON HIS JOURNEY TO AMERICA'S MIDWEST -- TAG ALONG ON HIS JOURNEY TO AMERICA'S MIDWEST.
♪ [SOUNDS OF THUNDER] >> WHEN THE TORNADO WARNING GOES OFF, IT IS LIKE A DRUG THAT TAKES AWAY YOUR PAIN.
[YELLING] >> LET'S GO!
>> GOT IT?
>> I GET THE TEST RESULTS IN A FEW DAYS.
MAYBE, MAYBE I GOT LUCKY.
I DON'T KNOW.
♪ >> ALCOHOL CAME INTO MY LIFE AND THAT PRETTY MUCH DESTROYED IT.
WENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND GOT INTO A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE DRINKING AND WENT INTO SERVICE.
THEN, MY MENTAL ILLNESS HIT.
THEN, I SPENT THE NEXT 20 YEARS IN AND OUT OF INSTITUTIONS.
I HAD 10 YEARS SOBRIETY, BASICALLY ENDED UP HERE BECAUSE I RELAPSED.
GOT SIX YEARS NOW.
[TV AUDIO] >> INTERNATIONAL FALLS REPORTING 62.
>> I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO'S EVER HAD CANCER AND I WON'T BE THE LAST.
YOU'VE GOT TO GET UP EVERY DAY AND BATTLE.
STORM CHASING WAS ON MY BUCKET LIST.
AND, I DEFINITELY GOT TO SEE A TORNADO THIS SUMMER BEFORE IT'S OVER WITH.
IT'S BAD NEWS.
I MAY DIE IN A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS OR A MONTH.
THERE'S ONLY A FEW SHORT MONTHS REALLY TO CHASE.
ONCE THAT'S OVER WITH, IT'S OVER.
SO, IF YOU GOT THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU'VE GOT TO GO.
WE'VE GOT TO GO.
♪ >> GOOD.
♪ >> I'LL DO MY BEST.
>> OK.
THE CHASE IS ON.
GETTING PUMPED UP.
♪ >> I WAS GOING TO GET IN ONE OF THOSE VAN TOURS DOWN SOUTH AND CHASE TORNADOES.
HE SAID I THINK I CAN DO YOU ONE BETTER.
WE HIT IT OFF RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
>> SMELL THE TORNADOES IN THE AIR.
♪ >> ♪ YOU GOT TO STAY AWAY FROM COPPERHEAD ROADS ♪ ♪ >> THIS IS COOL WATCHING IT COME OVER.
THAT WALL CLOUD IS HUGE.
>> THIS THING IS MOVING IN FAST, IT'S REALLY SWEET.
I'M GOING TO GET IN THE CAR.
LIGHTNING IS DANGEROUS.
THIS IS WHERE YOU GOT TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
YOU FOR THE NORTHERN ONE, THE SOUTHERN ONE.
YEAH, ALL WE CAN DO NOW IS HOPE THE STORM PRODUCES A TORNADO.
WE'RE IN PERFECT POSITION.
IT IS GOING TO GET REALLY, REALLY LOUD.
[SOUNDS OF HAIL HITTING THE CAR] >> IT IS TRYING TO BE A TORNADO RIGHT THERE.
DO YOU SEE THE RAPID MOVEMENT?
THE ROTATION RIGHT ABOVE US.
CHECK IT OUT.
LOOK AT THAT.
[THUNDER] >> THEY CERTAINLY TRIED FOR US.
SOME AWESOME SUPERCELLS BUTT THEIR BASES WERE SO HIGH UP.
EVERY TIME THEY WOULD WRAP THE RFD AROUND AND TRY TO PRODUCE, IT NEVER HAPPENED.
WE HAVE THAT AWESOME ROTATION THOUGH.
THAT WAS PRETTY SWEET.
♪ ♪ >> MY DEMONS ARE SMOKING, DEPRESSION, ALCOHOL, CANCER.
THERE'S A FEW.
IT HAS BEEN A WHILE.
SOMETIMES YOU GET AWAY IN LIFE AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
SOME PEOPLE GOT A LOT AND THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.
I GUESS THAT'S WHAT MAKES ME ME.
WE DIDN'T GET A TORNADO TODAY.
THE CLOUDS ARE SINGING.
PROBABLY GET ONE TOMORROW.
LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING UP.
YEE-HAW.
♪ >> DO YOU THINK THE CANCER HAS MADE YOU BRAVER MAYBE?
NOT AFRAID?
>> IT HELPS.
>> WANT TO HEAR AN INTERESTING STORY?
THIS MORNING, WE TOOK OFF AND I COULDN'T TELL -- HIS FORECAST IS GOOD, WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS.
I WAS LIKE, ARE YOU GOING TO FIRE ME?
>> HOLY -- >> THAT WAS THE BIGGEST GAMBLE IN THE WORLD.
>> WOW.
>> SO, I'M EITHER GETTING FIRED AND WE ARE SEEING NO TORNADO.
OR I'M GETTING FIRED AND WE AR GETTING A TORNADO.
OR I'M NOT GETTING FIRED AND WE ARE GETTING A TORNADO.
WE'RE GETTING A TORNADO.
>> YOU GOT A FEW HAIRS RAISED ON MY HEAD.
NOT MANY.
WOW.
>> THIS COULD BE A. IT.
IT'S IMPORTANT.
I WILL SETTLE DOWN IN A COUPLE YEARS MAYBE, BUT NEVER STOP CHASING, RIGHT?
>> YOU KNOW THAT COUPLE THAT GOT MARRIED THAT CHASED?
A COUPLE OF COUPLES GOT MARRIED.
>> THAT WOULD BE A DREAM SCENARIO, FIND A GIRL THAT IS INTO THE WEATHER AND HIT THE ROAD WITH ME WHENEVER IT'S TIME.
THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.
AND IF SHE'S HOT.
LIGHTS OFF.
ALL RIGHT.
TRY TO SLEEP GOOD.
>> TOMORROW.
[THUNDER] [BIRDS CHIRPING] >> SO RIGHT NOW, WE ARE SITTING IN SOUTHEAST WYOMING.
IT IS 1:21 P.M.
LOCAL TIME.
I COULDN'T BE ANY MORE EXCITED AND NERVOUS AT THE SAME TIME.
I'M NERVOUS BECAUSE, LIKE FAILING TODAY WOULD BE JUST AN ABSOLUTE STAB TO THE HEART.
SO, IF I WERE TO PLAY IN THE SUPER BOWL, I COULD IMAGINE THIS IS WHAT IT FEELS LIKE BEFORE THE GAME KICKS OFF.
NOT SURE WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO.
ONE SORT OF LAME STORM THERE.
STILL ONLY 4:30.
WE HAVE TIME LEFT.
BUT AT THE MOMENT, I'M A LITTLE WORRIED.
I THINK I'M GOING TO STOP AND SEE WHAT HE WANTS TO DO.
>>.
HOPEFULLY I WILL BE ALIVE AND CHASE AGAIN.
♪ >> WHEN THEY DO THE PET SCAN, HOW DOES THAT DICTATE WHAT YOU DO THIS WINTER?
>> IT COULD TELL ME -- IT'S FROM THE HEAD.
IT TELLS FROM THE LAST MONTH TO THIS MONTH IF THE CANCER IS GONE OR IF PEBBLES FORMED UP WITH CANCER.
>> IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING?
>> I'M GOING TO SAY HOW LONG DO I GOT?
>> THEY SAID WEDNESDAY, THEY COULD TELL YOU SOMETHING BAD?
>> YEAH.
>> REALLY?
THEN, YOU WOULDN'T WORK?
>> I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN.
[THUNDER] >> HEY, MOM.
WE'RE OUT IN SOUTH DAKOTA CHASING.
TRY TO CALL ME LATER, YOU MIGHT NOT GET ME.
ALL RIGHT.
WE'RE ON -- >> HOLY -- THAT LOOKS.
>> I GET MY TEST TOMORROW.
>> LOOK AT THAT IN FRONT OF US.
>> OK, I GOT TO GO.
WE GOT A STORM WE'RE FOLLOWING.
IT'S FIRING UP SO I'VE GOT TO GO.
OK.
GOOD NIGHT.
>> SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE LAST FEW MINUTES?
SEE IT THERE?
A CORE PUNCH LIKE WE ALWAYS DO.
JUST A BABY.
PRETTY SOON, THERE WILL BE BOLTS OF LIGHTNING GOING CRAZY.
THIS IS AMAZING ON RADAR, GUYS.
WE'VE GOT TO GO, WE'VE GOT TO GO.
WE GOT HAIL, WIND AND HEAVY RAIN.
[SOUNDS OF HAIL AND RAIN] >> A TORNADO WARNING SO LOOK AROUND.
DO YOU SEE IT?
[RADIO AUDIO] >> WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN.
I NEED TO GO BACK THROUGH THIS AND GO SOUTH.
HERE IT IS, HERE IT IS.
STRONG, STRONG TORNADO IN PROGRESS.
IT'S HAPPENING!
LOOK AT THAT.
>> MY GOD.
[SOUNDS OF HEAVY WIND] >> THERE IT IS?
[SCREAMING EXCITEDLY] >> THERE IT IS!
LET'S GO GET IT!
GET IN THE CAR, GET IN THE CAR.
COME ON.
YES!
OH, YOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL.
OHM, MY GOD.
OH, MY GOD.
GET THE -- OUT OF HERE.
[CELEBRATORY YELLING] YOU'RE GOOD, YOU'RE GOOD.
OH, BOY!
THESE GUYS GOT TO GET OUT OF MY WAY.
MARK, MARK, WE DID IT!
♪ ♪ >> AT TIMES, FEAR AND PAIN MAY SEEM UNBEARABLE.
OUR INSTINCT WOULD BE TO RUN.
TO RETREAT AND AVOID THE FEAR AND THE PAIN.
WE NEED A VISION THAT BEGINS WITHIN US.
A VISION THAT FEEDS THE SOUL.
>> GOOD JOB.
>> THAT'S THE WAY I LIKE TO LIVE.
♪ [BIRDS CHIRPING] [PHONE RINGING] >> HEY.
JUST GOT HOME FROM THE HOSPITAL.
GIVE ME A CALL.
BYE.
HELLO?
HELLO?
HEY, HOW ARE YOU DOING?
GREAT.
NEGATIVE.
>> OH, MY GOD.
THAT'S AMAZING.
>> ISN'T IT?
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
YEAH, CANCER FREE.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE STUCK WITH ME CHASING.
SORRY.
[LAUGHTER] YUP, GOT IT.
OK, HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.
BYE.
♪ WE CAN CHASE FRIDAY.
>> ♪ KEEPING MY WHEELS UP AND MY HAND DOWN DON'T LOOK FOR ME I WON'T BE AROUND ALL I CAN DO IS DO MY BEST GOING TO LIVE MY LIFE OUTLIVE THE REST ♪ ♪ STEVEN: WELCOME BACK.
WE ARE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION WITH ROGER LYONS, THE WRITER, DIRECTOR AND PRODUCER OF THE AWARD-WINNING DOCUMENTARY "ETCHED IN GLASS: THE LEGACY OF STEVE ROSS."
WELCOME BACK.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DOCUMENTARY.
LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW YOU DECIDED TO TAKE THAT MEETING, THAT FIRST MEETING WITH STEVE, AGAIN, WHO IS A SOCIAL WORKER, HELPING KIDS ON THE STREETS OF BOSTON TO RECLAIM THEIR LIFE AND INSPIRE THEM.
AND HOW DID THAT EXPERIENCE OF MEETING HIM BECOME THIS ONE-HOUR DOCUMENTARY?
ROGER: IT CAME AT A TIME IN HISTORY WHEN HOLOCAUST DENIAL WAS STARTING TO REACH ITS PEAK.
WE HAD IRAN AND LOTS OF GROUP THAT WERE DENYING THE HOLOCAUST EXISTED AND SO FORTH AND PUTTING OUT FAKE STORIES ABOUT THE HOLOCAUST.
WHEN I HEARD STEVE TELL ME HIS STORY, THIS HAS REALLY GOT TO GET OUT.
THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT HAS TO BE PUT TOGETHER IN SOME KIND OF FILM FORM AND DISTRIBUTED WIDELY TO PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD, NOT JUST HERE.
AS TIME WENT ON, THE HATRED GOT WORSE AND I ENDED UP JUST FOLLOWING STEVE.
THIS IS WHAT I ENDED UP DOING TO MAKE THE FILM.
I DIDN'T HAVE MONEY, DIDN'T HAVE A BUDGET.
I HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS GUY AND CAPTURE HIS LIFE, THE WORDS FROM STEVE WHO IS A WITNESS AT A SURVIVOR.
AND MAKE THAT KNOWN TO EVERYBODY.
THAT IS WHAT I BASICALLY DID.
STEVEN: VERY FRANKLY, I WAS CRYING AT THE END OF THE FILM.
IT WAS VERY EMOTIONAL.
IT'S ABOUT THIS BOY WHO IS FROM POLAND WHO WHEN THE NAZIS COME INTO POLAND, THEY BEGIN TO SUBJECT THE JEWS TO WEAR THE STAR OF DAVID ON THE FRONT AND ON THE BACK.
AND DEHUMANIZE THEM.
IT BECAME A POINT WHERE JEWS WERE CONSIDERED SUBHUMAN AND THEN HE, HIS MOTHER -- OR HIS MOTHER DECIDES TO PUT HIM INTO THE HOME OF A CHRISTIAN FAMILY SO THAT HE WILL SURVIVE WHILE THEY ARE TAKEN AWAY.
ROGER: HE WAS THE YOUNGEST AND THEY WANTED TO SHELTER HIM SOMEHOW SO THEY PUT HIM IN A CHRISTIAN FAMILY, FARMERS.
HE WAS ABLE TO BE SHELTERED FOR A WHILE BUT WHEN THE NAZIS CAME AROUND AND STARTED KILLING ANYBODY HARBORING JEWS, THEY PUT HIM IN THE WOODS.
THERE'S A LONG STORY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM, GETTING CAPTURED.
STEVEN: AND THEN AS A CHILD, HE WAS BROUGHT INTO THE FIRST OF 10 CONCENTRATION CAMPS AND HE SHARES HIS STORIES OF SURVIVAL AND HORROR.
IT IS MAN'S INHUMANITY TO MAN.
AND THEN HE IS FINALLY, AFTER GOING THROUGH THE HORRORS OF THIS, HE IS LIBERATED BY THE SOLDIERS, AMERICAN SOLDIERS WHO COME.
HE'S IN THE CONCENTRATION CAMP AND HE MEETS WITH A SOLDIER ON A TANK.
ROGER: THEY BASICALLY OPEN THE GATES SO THE PRISONERS WERE FLOODING OUT AND THEY HAVE NO PLACE TO GO.
THEY SAID GO FIND A HOSPITAL, WHATEVER.
A PATROL OF TANKS GO BY AND ONE OF THE SOLDIERS IS SITTING ON TOP OF THE TANK EATING FOOD AND HE SEES STEVE WHO LOOKS DISHEVELED.
STEVEN: HE WEIGHED 50 POUNDS.
ROGER: LICE, TUBERCULOSIS.
THE SOLDIER JUMPS OFF HIS TANK, GOES TO STEPHEN GIVE HIM HIS OWN FOOD.
GIVE HIM A HUG AND GIVES HIM A CLOTH TO WIPE HIS FACE, THINKING IT IS A HANDKERCHIEF.
HE DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS A LITTLE AMERICAN FLAG, WHICH HE STILL CARRIES TODAY.
STEVEN: WITH 48 STARS.
ROGER: HE KEPT THAT FLAG.
IT IS A SYMBOLIC THEME THROUGHOUT THE FILM OF HOPE.
IT IS A FLAG OF FREEDOM TO STEVE.
AND WHAT HE WANTED TO DO WHEN HE GOT OUT OF THE CAMPS, HE WANTED TO GO TO AMERICA AND TRIED TO FIND THIS SOLDIER TO THANK HIM FOR HELPING HIM.
FOR 67 YEARS, HE SEARCHED FOR THE SOLDIER.
I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED AT THE END OF THE MOVIE.
STEVEN: THAT IS PART OF THE MOVIE.
IT IS A PART OF THE THREAT OF THIS STORY.
I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING THAT STEVE, HAVING GONE THROUGH THAT -- BASICALLY IN THE VALLEY OF DEATH, HE SAID, MANY A TIME -- AND HAD BECOME NUMB BECAUSE OF THE ATROCITIES THAT HAD HAPPENED TO HIM AND OTHERS AROUND HIM AND LOST ANY SENSE OF HUMAN VALUE.
AND THEN WHEN THAT SOLDIER WAS SHOWING A MOMENT OF KINDNESS, OF WARMTH, HUMANITY, HE REALIZED HE COULD STILL LOVE PEOPLE.
ROGER: THAT ACT OF KINDNESS REALLY SPURRED RESILIENCE IN STEVE AND GAVE HIM THE STRENGTH AND GOAL TO HELP OTHER KIDS, OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE DISADVANTAGED.
HE DID WHEN HE CAME TO AMERICA, HE WORKED HIS WAY THROUGH SCHOOL.
HE DIDN'T HAVE EDUCATION, DID NOT SPEAK ENGLISH.
HE EARNED THREE COLLEGE DEGREES, INCLUDING A DOCTORATE FROM NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY AND SO FORTH.
AND HE WAS A STREET WORKER.
HE WORKED AS A SOCIAL WORKER.
HE HAD A DEGREE IN SOCIAL WORK.
HE WAS ON THE STREETS OF BOSTON HELPING INNER-CITY KIDS COME ALONG WITH RAY FLYNN, THE FUTURE MAYOR OF BOSTON.
THEY WORKED TOGETHER TO CHANGE KIDS LIVES AND IN THE FILM, WE SEE HOW SOME OF THEM TURNED OUT TODAY.
THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE MAYBE SURVIVED WITHOUT STEVE.
STEVEN: THEY WERE INCARCERATED.
THEY BECAME ATTORNEYS, PILLAR OF THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT WHEN STEVE WAS TALKING TO HIS MOTHER WHEN HE WAS A LITTLE BOY, SHE SAID YOU'RE ARE GOING TO BE A GREAT MAN AND A GREAT MAN TO HIM , HE DISCOVERED WAS A EDUCATED MAN.
I LOVED IN YOUR DOCUMENTARY THE INTERACTION WITH STEVE WHO IS GARBED IN THE CONCENTRATION CAMP CLOTHING, INTERACTING WITH KIDS IN THE PRESENT DAY INNER-CITY AND HOW IMPORTANT THE STORIES OF THE PAST PERTAIN TO THE PRESENT.
ROGER: RIGHT.
STEVEN: THAT WAS REALLY BEAUTIFUL DONE.
ROGER: TWO INNER-CITY HIGH SCHOOLS IN BOSTON YARD.
BOSTON HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS NO LONGER THERE.
AND JEREMIAH BURKE HIGH SCHOOL IN DORCHESTER.
WHEN HE SPOKE, HE SPOKE WITH SUCH PASSION IN FRONT OF THESE KIDS AND TOLD THEM THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM.
THEY ARE SITTING DUMBFOUNDED, GOING, OH, MY GOD, IF IT HAPPENED TO THIS GUY AND HE SURVIVED, MY PROBLEMS ARE NOTHING COMPARED TO THIS.
I CAN MAKE IT.
STEVEN: THERE WAS A SENSE OF RESPECT THEY HAD FOR HIM AND THEY WERE MOVED, EMOTIONALLY MOVED BY HIS POWERFUL STORY.
YOU FILM IS VERY POWERFUL AND MUST BE SEEN BY A WIDE AUDIENCE.
EVERYBODY NEEDS TO SEE IT AND EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT STEVE WAS SAYING.
YOU MUST SPEAK UP, YOU MUST STAND UP IF YOU SEE RACISM, IF YOU SEE SOMEONE BEING DISRESPECTED.
IT IS IMPORTANT YOU SPEAK UP ON THEIR BEHALF.
SOMETIMES THE SMALLEST VOICE SPEAKS UP FOR THOSE THAT ARE SILENT.
I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WONDERFUL FILM, "ETCHED IN GLASS: THE LEGACY OF STEVE ROSS."
I REALLY HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO GET THIS FILM OUT TO THE WORLD.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
ROGER: THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A HAND AND VISITING TO GET MORE INFORMATION.
YOU CAN GO TO STEVEROSSFILM.ORG FOR MORE.
STEVEN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ROGER: THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
APPRECIATE IT.
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Clip | 41m 56s | Steven Feinberg interviews directer/producer Joe Johnston. (41m 56s)
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Henry Bronchtein Interview Pt. 3
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Henry Bronchtein Interview Pt. 2
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Henry Bronchtein Interview Pt. 1
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Katie Reaves and Jennifer Jolicoeur Interview
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Clip | 27m 7s | Interview with filmmaker Katie Reaves & Athena’s Home Novelties Pres. Jennifer Jolicoeur. (27m 7s)
Dr. Thomas Zorabedian Interview
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Clip | 26m 47s | Steven Feinberg sits down to interview picture editor Rob Schulbaum. (26m 47s)
Ron Bachman and Devin Karambelas Interview
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Clip | 26m 15s | Steven Feinberg sits down to interview filmmaker Eric Latek. (26m 15s)
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Melissa Tantaquidgeon Zobel Interview
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