[PIANO INTRO] - GOT GOOD COLOR.

PROBABLY 20 MORE FOOT OF THAT CLEAR TIP.

[reel spinning] - YUP.

YEAH, YOU CAN SEE THEM PRETTY GOOD THERE.

- THERE'S THE LEADER.

- THERE'S THE LEADER.

THERE'S THE FISH.

COME ON UP.

THAT'S ANOTHER 100-POUNDER.

- NO, DON'T GO TO THE ANCHOR.

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WE PROVIDE FISHING SUPPLIES AND AD VICE TO EVERY TYPE OF ANGLER.

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[LIGHT INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC] ♪ - HELLO.

WELCOME TO THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL.

WELL, TODAY'S PROGRAM--JUST A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

WE'RE HEADED DOWN TO THE COAST, AND WE'RE GONNA BE FISHING FOR SHARK TODAY WITH A FLY ROD.

- THAT'S RIGHT.

AND TWO GUYS THAT KNOW HOW TO USE A FLY ROD PRETTY MUCH IN ANY SITUATION.

BUT WE ARE TARGETING SHARKS OFF CAPE LOOKOUT ALONG THE SHOAL AREA, AN AREA KNOWN AS "SHARK ISLAND"-- TARGETING BLACKTIPS AND SAND BARS.

YOU SAY TARGETING, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT SPECIES OF SHARKS THAT HANG OUT IN THIS AREA, BUT THOSE ARE THE TWO WE SAW THAT DAY.

AND YEAH, WITH THE RIGHT FLY-FISHING EQUIPMENT-- AND THESE GUYS HAVE IT-- AND THE KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO DO IT, YOU CAN CATCH SOME NICE SHARKS AND WE DID.

- WE'LL GET A REAL EDUCATION IN GEAR TIME TODAY.

- RIGHT, THE GUYS WILL SHARE WITH US THE FLY RODS THAT THEY USE, THE LINE...EVERYTHING-- ALL THE COMPONENTS THAT YOU NEED TO BRING TOGETHER TO DO THIS SUCCESSFULLY, 'CAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SHARKS THAT WEIGH UP TO 100 POUNDS THAT DAY, OR LARGER.

AND SO YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE TACKLE TO CATCH 'EM.

- AND THEN OUR RECIPE TODAY: SCALLOPS.

- GOOD SCALLOP RECIPE FROM DONNA TODAY: SCALLOPED SCALLOPS.

AND SO TUNE IN FOR THAT.

- WE'VE GOT A LOT GOING ON.

SO LET'S GO TO WORK ON THE CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL.

- WELL, CHUCK, WE'RE OUT HERE OFF THE EAST SIDE OF THE CAPE SHOALS ON A PRETTY FIRST OF SEPTEMBER DAY.

GONNA PUT A LITTLE CHUM OUT AND SEE IF WE CAN'T FIND US A SHARK OUT HERE FOR YOU TO WHIP UP ON THAT FLY ROD.

- I HOPE SO, JOE.

I SPENT THE MORNING CATCHING ALBACORE AND SPANISH, AND I DIDN'T SEE BUT A LITTLE BIT OF BACKING ON SOME OF THE ALBACORE, BUT I GOT A FEELING WE'RE GONNA SEE SOME-- SEE SOMETHING ON THIS I HADN'T SEEN IN A WHILE.

SO THERE'S SOME NICE SHARKS OUT HERE.

THEY REALLY, REALLY ARE, AND IT'S NO TELLING WHAT SIZE AND WHAT KIND OF SHARK WE'LL CATCH.

- THAT'S RIGHT.

THEY COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 3-FOOT TO 8-FOOT.

THERE'S A LOT OF SPINNER SHARKS OUT HERE, BLACKTIPS, BLACK NOSE, SAND TIGERS, A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.

SO WE'RE GONNA PUT THIS CHUM OUT AND GET US A SLICK GOING.

AND IN ABOUT 30 MINUTES TO AN HOUR, HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING COME UP AND WANT TO EAT SOMETHING.

- WELL, LET'S SEE THAT OUT THERE AND SEE IF WE CAN'T FIND SOME CUSTOMERS, PARTNER.

- OH, WE CAN DO IT.

YUM, YUM.

- [laughs] - SURE YOU DON'T WANT A BITE BEFORE I STICK IT IN HERE?

- NO, NO, GET THAT OVER.

I KNOW WE GOT A WHOLE-- WHOLE JUST WAD OF FRESH MENHADEN UP THERE TOO.

WE STOPPED EARLIER AND GOT SOME--GOT SOME BAIT.

SO WE'RE READY TO GO.

- ALL RIGHT.

- JOE, WE'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT 45 MINUTES NOW.

WE'VE GOT A GOOD CHUM SLICK GOING.

WE'VE GOT SOME FISH HEADS IN THERE.

WE'VE GOT STUFF DEEP DOWN, YOU KNOW, DOWN DEEP.

WE'VE GOT STUFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WATER COLUMN.

WE'VE GOT STUFF FLOATING ALONG TOP, WHICH IS DRAWING THE BIRDS, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'LL BE WAITING TOO MUCH LONGER BEFORE WE GET A COUPLE OF CUSTOMERS IN HERE.

- I DON'T THINK WE WILL EITHER, CHUCK.

IT'S NOT ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT-- THAT YOU DO RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

IT TAKES YOU A LITTLE WHILE TO GET GOING, AND OUR CHUM'S BEEN WORKING.

THE TIDE'S DIED OUT, BUT NOW IT'S FIXING TO SWITCH, AND I THINK WITH THE SWITCH, IT'S REALLY GONNA GET GOOD.

- GOOD, GOOD.

WELL, WE'RE READY.

WE'VE GOT THE FLIES OUT.

WE GOT SOME FISH.

LOOKS LIKE WE MAY HAVE A FISH IN THE CHUM SLICK NOW.

- YES, SIR, THERE IS TWO OF THEM RIGHT THERE.

EITHER THAT OR THAT'S A GREAT BIG SINGLE ONE.

HERE THEY COME.

- OH, JOE, WE GOT SOME CUSTOMERS, BUDDY.

- YES.

YES, SIR, HERE THEY ARE RIGHT OUT HERE IN THE SLICK.

LOOK AT THEM.

LOOK AT THEM.

LOOK AT THEM GO.

NOW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.

- WELL, YOU CALLED THE CAST.

YOU LET ME KNOW.

- I'M GONNA TRY AND GET HIM A LITTLE CLOSER, CHUCK BUT-- THERE'S TWO OF THEM.

HE'S BEEN--THEY'VE BEEN COMING UP THE SLICK.

THEY STARTED ABOUT 200 YARDS OUT, AND NOW THEY'RE ABOUT 150, 200 FEET OUT.

WE'LL LET THEM GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.

THEY'LL SEE SOME OF THIS BIG STUFF-- - LOOK AT THAT BULGE.

OH, JOE, LOOK AT THAT.

- [laughs] THEY'RE JUST FUN TO WATCH.

THEY'RE JUST FUN TO WATCH.

MAKE A LITTLE--THERE YOU GO.

LOOK AT HIM.

LOOK AT HIM.

- ZOOM.

HE JUST ATE A POLE.

[laughs] - GOLLY.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE AFTER.

MADE THEM SLA--HERE HE COMES.

CHUCK, I'D SAY YOU COULD MAKE A CAST OF THAT.

HE'S COMING RIGHT AT YOU THERE, BUDDY.

COMING RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE.

THERE YOU GO, THERE YOU GO.

STRIP IT-- OH, HE'S RIGHT AROUND IT.

[seagulls cawing] WHERE DID HE GO?

WHERE DID HE GO--OOPS.

- COME ON, FISH.

- COME ON, BOYS.

- TELL YOU, JOE, WE MAY HAVE TO GO TO THAT WHITE FLY TOO.

- WE MIGHT.

- ZEROED IN ON THOSE-- - THERE HE IS RIGHT HERE.

LOOK AT--RIGHT THERE.

THERE HE IS RIGHT THERE.

GO IN IN FRONT OF-- OH, YOU'RE RIGHT AROUND... - BEHIND HIM.

[seagulls squeaking] COME ON, FISH.

AND WE'RE JUST USING-- BASICALLY LETTING IT DRIFT OR SLOW LITTLE TWITCHES MAKE IT-- - SLOW LITTLE TWITCHES.

- HOOKED UP, JOE.

- GOT HIM.

LET'S GET EVERYTHING CLEARED OUT OF THE WAY.

JUST RIGHT.

- ON THE REEL.

- THE WHITE FLY.

ALL RIGHT.

MAYBE SLIDE JUST UNDERNEATH YOU HERE, CHUCK.

- GOT YOU.

GOT YOU, BUDDY.

I'M ON THE BACKING.

IN THE BACK.

- ALL RIGHTY, THAT'S WHAT WE WAS AFTER.

- I JUST DON'T KNOW IF HE THINKS HE'S HOOKED YET, JOE.

HE'S DEFINITELY NOT REAL WORRIED ABOUT IT.

- [laughs] HE JUST HASN'T QUITE FIGURED IT OUT, HAS HE?

OH, YEAH, WE GOT SOME MORE BACK HERE TOO.

- COOL.

- WHEN YOU GET DONE PLAYING WITH THAT ONE, WE'LL GET ANOTHER ONE.

- OH, MAN, RIGHT HERE BEHIND THE BOAT.

- GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW FAR OUT THE ANCHOR LINE IS.

- UH, IT'S NOT THAT FAR, CHUCK.

- OKAY, I'M GOOD.

JOE, WE'RE TRYING TO GET SIDE PRESSURE ON HIM, AND-- BUT I STILL DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HE THINKS HE'S IN TROUBLE.

[laughter] - YOU'RE DOING GOOD, CHUCK.

JUST KEEP IT UP.

- I'M GONNA HAVE TO COME TO THE BACK AND AVOID THAT MOTOR.

JOE, HE ATE THAT BIG WHITE FLY.

NO SOONER THAN THEY SHOWED UP AND WE CHANGED FLIES.

- JUST LIKE FISHING BEHIND THE TRAWLERS, MAN.

WHEN YOU'RE THROWING WHITE, YOU NEED TO HAVE WHITE.

- THAT'S WHEN THE ANCHOR BECOMES THE ISSUE.

- YOU JUST LET ME KNOW.

- I DON'T KNOW.

I MAY BE UNDER IT NOW, JOE.

IF HE GOES... - WE'RE JUST SITTING STILL.

NOW, YOU'RE JUST FINE.

COME RIGHT UNDER ME.

- GOTCHA.

JUST BEFORE HAVING COLOR-- I GOT COLOR, JOE.

GOD KNOWS HE'S HUGE.

- [laughs] - HE'S JUST BIG, BUD.

- WELL, HE JUST DOESN'T KNOW HE'S HOOKED YET.

TFO WOULD BE PROUD OF YOU.

IS HE GOING BACK UNDER AGAIN OR WHAT'S HE DOING?

- HAD TO KEEP HIM OFF OF-- I THINK HE'S GONNA COME BACK.

- I THINK HE'S COMING AROUND.

- LOOK AT THIS POOR HEAP.

- WHOO, THAT'S A 5, 6-FOOTER ALL... FIND OUT WHAT I DID WITH MY-- - THERE THEY ARE.

I GOT COLOR, JOE.

- YES, SIR, LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET MY FLY BACK.

THIS'LL BE INTERESTING.

- GOT COLOR.

- I GOT THIS--I BROUGHT MY EXTRA LONG HOOK REMOVER.

- OUTSTANDING, MAN.

- BOY, THAT'S A NICE ONE.

LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE--I CAN'T-- IT'S HARD TO TELL.

- WELL, YOU'VE HAD EVERYTHING IN HERE, EVEN SAND TIGERS.

I CAN SEE THE FLY IN HIS MOUTH.

- YUP.

I CAN TOO.

THAT'S A LITTLE--IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A BLACKTIP, BUT IT'S NOT--DOESN'T HAVE ANY BLACKTIPS ON IT.

IT'S GOT THE SAME COLORATION ON THE SIDE, THOUGH.

- COME ON, DARLING.

ALL I WANT TO DO IS LET YOU GO.

- THAT'S RIGHT.

THE ULTIMATE FLY ROD FISH.

[chuckles] - JOE, I'M ACTUALLY-- - YOU'RE ABOUT AS FAR AS YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GO.

- SEE, I'M ON THE--ON THE LEADER MAYBE AT ANOTHER FOOT.

- I JUST GOT THE FEELING THAT HE IS REALLY NOT-- - HE IS NOT QUITE READY.

- NOPE.

- HE IS RIGHT THERE WITHIN REACH.

- HE IS.

WELL-- - WHERE'S YOUR HARPOON?

- I GOT-- [laughter] WHAT KIND OF TEMPERATURE YOU GOT THERE?

40?

30, 40?

- I'VE GOT 20-POUND TIP AT 30-POUND-- 30-POUND TO THE WIRE.

- OKAY.

- AND I'M-- - JUST ENOUGH WHEN I GRAB IT, IT'S GONNA BREAK.

[laughs] IT'S ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

YOU KEEP WEARING HIM OUT, HE'LL COME UP, MAN.

I GOT THIS LONG HOOK REMOVER.

IF I CAN GET A HOLD OF THAT HOOK JUST ONE TIME.

THERE WE GO.

COME ON AROUND, BIG BOY.

NICE AND EASY, THERE YOU GO.

OOH, COME ON.

HERE HE COMES.

HERE HE COMES.

- HE'S IN YOUR HANDS, JOE.

NICE FISH, BUDDY ROW.

- JUST RIGHT.

- [whistles] THAT'S WHAT YOU CAME FOR, MAN.

- THAT'S IT.

I CAN ALMOST GET MY FLY.

- THERE IT IS.

- HO!

[laughter] - CONGRATULATIONS!

NOW, HE'S GOT SOME BUDDIES BACK HERE.

LET'S SEE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED.

- WE'LL CHECK THIS WIRE AND THE LEADER.

- YEAH, MAN.

WE GOT PLENTY OF BOTH, BUT HE WAS HOOKED JUST RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK HE BOTHERED A THING.

- JOE, WE GOT TO SEE THE ENTIRE EAT ON YOUR WHITE FLY.

- I MEAN, HE CAME UP, AND FOLKS THINK THEY'RE GONNA JUST CRASH IT.

BUT HE CAME UP AND LITERALLY INHALED IT.

- HE JUST SUCKED IT RIGHT IN.

- JUST LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A BASS TAKING A DEER HAIR BUG.

I MEAN, HE WAS DOWN 5 OR 6 FEET.

WE COULD SEE THAT WHITE FLY AND JUST BOOM.

- HE ATE IT.

- JOE, THIS IS A FISHERY THAT PROBABLY IS, LIKE I SAID, IT'S CERTAINLY UNDERUTILIZED.

BUT THESE THINGS GET HERE USUALLY ABOUT THE SAME TIME OR A LITTLE BIT AFTER MAYBE THE SPANISH, LIKE, MAYBE MAY.

AND THEY STAY ALL THE WAY THROUGH--WHAT, OCTOBER POSSIBLY.

- OCTOBER IF IT'S WARM ALL THE WAY THROUGH DECEMBER.

I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, ALL THE WAY THROUGH NOVEMBER.

THERE HE IS RIGHT THERE.

IT'S--OH, MAN, HE'S RIGHT THERE.

[laughs] YEAH, THIS IS A GREAT LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER, AND EARLY FALL--OH!

HE GONNA--THERE YOU GO.

HE GONNA COME RIGHT BACK FOR IT.

- HE'S RIGHT AT IT.

COME ON, BIG GUY.

COME ON.

- LIKE I SAID, YOU JUST CAN'T SEE BECAUSE OF THAT SUN'S ON THERE.

BUT, YEAH, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GREAT SUMMERTIME THING.

WHEN EVERYTHING ELSE SLOWS DOWN, THE SHARKS ARE ALWAYS HERE.

- WELL, I MEAN, WE'RE SITTING HERE EVEN WITH THE OVERCAST, I MEAN, JUST SWEATING LIKE SOMEBODY'S HIT US WITH A HOSE.

- YEAH, SPEAKING OF THAT... [laughs] THERE YOU GO.

HE'S GOT IT.

HOOKED UP.

ALL RIGHTY.

ALL RIGHT.

YOU COULDN'T ASK FOR NOTHING BETTER THAN THAT.

- LOOK AT US.

WHOA, A SPINNER!

JOE, WE GOT A JUMP, BUT I DON'T KNOW-- I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT TIGHT.

I THINK-- - I'M AFRAID THAT HE TOOK IT WITH HIM.

- HE MAY HAVE TAKEN THAT WHOLE FLY.

- YEP, YEP.

WHEN THEY COME OUT OF THE WATER, THEY COME OUT WITH A LITTLE SPIN ON THAT LIGHT LINE.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

WE GOT PLENTY OF FLIES TO TIE ON.

- TRIED TO BOW A LITTLE BIT, GIVE HIM A LITTLE BIT OF SLACK LIKE A TARPON, BUT THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK WHEN THEY SPIN LIKE THAT.

- NO, IT DOESN'T-- - LET'S GET ANOTHER FLY ON AND WE'RE READY TO GO AGAIN.

- IT'S CALLED THE ABRASION FACTOR.

- YES.

- I THINK YOU CAN LAY IT OUT THERE SOMEWHERE.

HE'S GOING TO YOUR RIGHT.

HE'S GOING TO YOUR RIGHT.

- HE'S GOT TO COME BACK IN ON THAT PIECE.

- THERE HE IS.

THERE HE IS.

THERE YOU GO.

- JOE, I WAS JUST LETTING THAT GO OUT WITH THE CHUM AND THEN STRIPPING IT ONCE IT GOT CLOSE TO THE-- TO THE CHUNKS.

- THAT'S ALL IT TOOK.

A LITTLE BIT OF MOVEMENT UNDER THE WATER, AND HE NAILED IT.

- WELL, I FIGURED AS HARD AS IT WAS TO SEE HIM, THAT WE'D BE BETTER OFF TO KEEP THE FLY OUT THERE SOMEWHERE IN THE-- IN THE CHUM.

- RIGHT.

WELL, YOU HAVE TO.

I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, IF IT WASN'T OVERCAST AND BRIGHT AND SUNNY, WE COULD SEE THEM WHEREVER THEY GO.

AT LEAST HE'S NOT ACROBATIC AND JUMPING WHERE HE'LL BREAK OUR LINE...YET.

- NOT YET.

- [laughs] ALWAYS THROW THAT "YET" IN THERE.

- GETTING A PUMP AND MAYBE ONE CRANK--A HALF A CRANK-- - AND THEN HE GOES BACK.

- THEN HE GOES.

WE GOT ANOTHER CUSTOMER.

- GOT ANOTHER ONE BACK THERE.

- I SEE-- - YEAH, THERE'S NO LACK OF WILLING PARTICIPANTS OUT HERE RIGHT NOW ONCE THEY HIT THIS CHUM SLICK.

- THAT'S 6 POUNDS OF DRAG ON HIM, AND THAT'S-- THAT'S GOT HIS ATTENTION.

IF WE CAN GET HIM TO COME UP, WE'LL GAIN SOME LINE AND SEE HOW HARD HE TAKES IT BACK.

- [laughs] - GOT 30 FEET NOW.

- YOU GOT COLOR.

THERE HE IS RIGHT BESIDE THE BOAT.

THAT'S NO LITTLE ONE, CHUCK.

HE'S ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS THE LAST ONE.

- I NEED TO KEEP HIM AWAY FROM THAT ANCHOR.

GO OUT.

GO OUT.

- THERE YOU GO.

HE'S GOING OUT.

- BLESS YOU.

- UH-OH, HE'S COMING TO THE SURFACE.

- WELL, I'D RATHER HAVE HIM THERE THAN UNDER THE BOAT.

- YOU GOT THAT RIGHT.

- YOU CAN SEE OBVIOUSLY THAT 6 POUND OF DRAG DOESN'T BOTHER HIM AS MUCH AS IT DOES ME.

- [laughs] PEOPLE DON'T THINK ABOUT IT, BUT 6 POUNDS OF DRAG, AFTER A LITTLE BIT WILL WEAR ON YOU-- - I CAN'T PULL IT OUT WITH MY HANDS, AND HE'S TAKING IT NOW.

LET ME COME RIGHT PAST YOU, JOE, AND I CAN GET AROUND THIS ANCHOR.

- GO RIGHT AHEAD.

- GOT GOOD COLOR.

PROBABLY 20 MORE FOOT OF THAT CLEAR TIP.

- YUP, THERE...YOU CAN SEE HIM PRETTY GOOD THERE.

- THERE'S THE LEADER.

- THERE'S THE LEADER.

THERE'S THE FISH.

COME ON UP.

THAT'S ANOTHER 100-POUNDER.

- NO, DON'T GO TO THE ANCHOR.

- HE SAID, "DID YOU SAY, 'WHAT?

GO WHERE?'"

- OH, MAN.

- IS HE GOING UNDER?

- NO, I THINK I TURNED HIM, JOE.

- YEAH, YOU DID.

YOU DID A GOOD JOB.

YOU TURNED HIM RIGHT THERE.

JUST RIGHT.

PRETTY FISH.

- WE'LL SEE IF I CAN COME RIGHT DOWN TO YOU WITHOUT BENDING THIS ROD TOO MUCH.

AND IF YOU NEED TO-- WHOA, NEVER MIND, NEVER MIND.

- YOU SCARED HIM WITH THE BEARD.

- [laughs] - OH, PARDON.

HE'S--HE'S ALMOST AS WORN OUT AS YOU ARE.

- I SWEAR HE STILL-- - HE'S DOING THAT CIRCLE.

YOU CAN'T FORCE THEM IN THAT CIRCLE.

IF THEY WANT TO GO, THEY GONNA-- - THAT'S PRETTY.

- COME ON, BIG GUY.

COME ON, BUDDY.

[sighs] TURN.

WE ROLLED IT, JOE.

I SAW THAT.

- YEAH, THERE YOU GO.

YOU'RE WORKING IT.

- HE'S LEADERED.

- HE'S FIXING TO BE HAND-LEADERED HERE IN JUST A SECOND.

MAYBE I CAN GET THE FLY.

NOPE, THERE HE WENT.

JUST BARELY TOUCHED IT, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

- STILL CAUGHT.

- WE JUST DIDN'T--DIDN'T GET MY FLY BACK THAT TIME.

- [whistles] - THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

- MAN, IT IS GATORADE TIME, BUDDY, RIGHT AFTER I PUT THIS FLY ROD IN YOUR HAND.

- OKAY, WE CAN DO THAT.

- OH, MAN.

WHOO.

LORD HAVE MERCY.

- NOW, THAT'S IMPRESSIVE CATCHING A 100-POUND SHARK ON A FLY ROD.

- IT IS, AND--BUT THIS DAY AND TIME YOU HEAR ALL THE TIME ABOUT DEEP-- A LOT OF MARLIN FISHING, WHITE MARLIN, BLUE MARLIN-- SAILFISHING'S DONE WITH FLY RODS NOW, IF YOU'VE GOT THE RIGHT TACKLE-- AND THAT'S SO IMPORTANT-- ANY TIME YOU TARGET LARGE FISH LIKE THIS, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE RIGHT TACKLE AND, YOU KNOW, THESE GUYS DO IT ALL THE TIME FOR MANY DIFFERENT SPECIES OF FISH.

AND SO--AND WE HAVE THE SHARKS.

THE SHARKS ARE OUT THERE.

IT'S ALL CATCH AND RELEASE FOR THESE GUYS, AND WE HAD A LOT OF FUN.

- WELL, THE RIGHT TACKLE-- LET'S FIND OUT MORE.

LET'S GO TO GEAR TIME.

[light instrumental music] ♪ ♪ - JOE, I TELL YOU, WE TOOK THE BUSIEST WEEKEND OF THE YEAR PROBABLY ON THE COAST-- LABOR DAY WEEKEND.

I TOOK A BUSMAN'S HOLIDAY AND YOU TOOK AN AFTERNOON OFF TO CARRY ME TO YOUR FAVORITE SHARK HOLE JUST ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SHOALS.

AND I TELL YOU, BUDDY, WE TESTED EVERYTHING WITH THE CHUM.

WE GOT--WE GOT CHUM ON THE WAY ACROSS.

WE GOT MORE CHUM THAN I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA EVER NEED.

BUT WE ALSO PUT THIS TARPON ROD AND 20-POUND TIPPET TO ALL IT WANTED THIS AFTERNOON.

- THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, SPEAKING OF BAIT, YOU KNOW, WE DID CATCH BAIT ON THE WAY OVER.

BUT MY TIP TO EVERYBODY SHARK FISHING OR CHUMMING: WHEN YOU CATCH ALL THE BAIT YOU THINK YOU NEED, MAKE ONE MORE CAST.

YOU DON'T WANT TO RUN OUT OF BAIT.

IT MAY TAKE AN HOUR OR TWO HOURS TO GET THESE SHARKS IN THE CHUM SLICK.

BUT WHEN YOU GET THEM THERE, YOU WANT TO HAVE ENOUGH BAIT TO KEEP THEM THERE.

- WELL, WE DEFINITELY HAD SOME CUSTOMERS.

AND I TELL YOU, WE HAD ALMOST PERFECT CONDITIONS.

TIDE-WISE, EVERYTHING WAS GREAT.

WATER--WATER CLARITY WAS OUTSTANDING.

WE JUST DIDN'T HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WITH THE SUNSHINE.

IF WE'D HAD SOME SUNSHINE, WE WERE IN 6, MAYBE 8 FOOT OF WATER.

SO WE WOULD'VE SEEN MOST OF THESE SHARKS COMING IN.

AS FAR AS THE SIGHT CASTING GOES, THOUGH, WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THEM COME UP AND EAT.

AND IF WE PUT THE FLY CLOSE TO THEM AND JUST TWITCHED IT, IT WAS PRETTY AMAZING.

- THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, AND SPEAKING OF FLIES, WHAT WE WERE USING FOR FLIES TODAY.

I ALWAYS TIE UP THESE WHITE FLIES.

BECAUSE WE'RE THROWING MENHADEN OUT, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH WHITE.

AND WHEN THEY'RE FLOATING UPSIDE DOWN ON TOP OF THE WATER, THEY'RE KEYING IN ON THAT WHITE COLOR.

WE STARTED OFF WITH THIS ORANGE AND RED FLY, WHICH IS NORMALLY A REAL GOOD SHARK FLY.

BUT WHEN WE WERE CHUMMING, WE SWITCHED TO THAT WHITE.

AND ON THE FIRST CAST, YOU CAUGHT THAT FIRST FISH.

YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WHEN YOU RIG THIS, I'VE GOT ABOUT A 12-INCH SHOT OF NUMBER 5 WIRE, LITTLE WHITE, LIGHT WIRE.

AND INSTEAD OF DOING AN ALBRIGHT KNOT, I CHEAT AND PUT ONE OF THESE LITTLE SMALL SPRO SWIVELS ON THE FRONT BECAUSE WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF HEAT ON THESE FISH.

AND A LOT OF TIMES THE ALBRIGHT KNOT-- WHEN YOU PUT THAT HEAT BETWEEN WIRE AND MONO, IT'S GONNA SEPARATE RIGHT THERE.

- YUP.

WELL, I TELL YOU IT'S BEEN A-- IT WAS A HECK OF AN AFTERNOON.

WE HAD SOME REALLY NICE FISH, PROBABLY 100-PLUS POUNDS ON SEVERAL OF THEM.

SO IT'S A GREAT FISHERY AND SOMETHING FOLKS CAN REALLY ENJOY WITHOUT SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY TO GO OFFSHORE.

BUT THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF BASICALLY TARPON OR BUELL FISHING RIGHT HERE WITHIN SIGHT OF LAND.

- THAT'S RIGHT, AND WE'D REALLY LIKE TO GET PEOPLE TO COME DOWN AND TRY THIS.

IT'S A LOT OF FUN WHETHER WE'RE FLY-FISHING AS WE WERE TODAY OR CONVENTIONAL FISHING.

BUT I ENJOYED IT, CHUCK.

A LOT OF FUN, BUDDY.

- APPRECIATE IT.

- OKAY.

- IF YOU WANT TO GO FLY-FISHING FOR SHARKS, GIVE CAPTAIN JOE A CALL.

HERE'S HIS NUMBER.

AND I PROMISE YOU THIS, YOU'LL HAVE A GREAT DAY.

NOW, ANOTHER GREAT DAY.

IT'S IN THE KITCHEN WITH DONNA.

SHE'S GOT A RECIPE FOR SCALLOPS.

[light instrumental music] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ - HI, TODAY IN THE KITCHEN WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS GREAT ONE MEAL DISH: SCALLOPED SCALLOPS.

I DARE YOU TO SAY THAT THREE TIMES FAST.

SO WE'RE GOING TO START OFF WITH OUR BEAUTIFUL SCALLOPS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR BOWL.

AND MINE WERE SO BIG, AND YOU CAN JUST FIND THESE HUGE SCALLOPS NOW.

SO WHAT I HAD--I'VE DONE IS I CUT MINE INTO FOURTHS BECAUSE I WANTED MINE TO BE MORE BITE-SIZED, AND I THINK YOU CAN GET MORE OUT OF A SMALLER QUANTITY TOO.

SO I HAVE THEM IN MY BOWL, AND THEN I'M JUST GONNA SPRINKLE SOME SALT ON THIS AND SOME CRACKED BLACK PEPPER.

AND I LIKE TO USE FRESH CRACKED BLACK PEPPER.

I JUST THINK IT HAS A LITTLE BIT BETTER TASTE, BUT YOU CAN USE WHAT YOU HAVE.

WHOOPS.

SO WE'RE JUST GONNA GIVE THOSE A TOSS, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA SET THOSE ASIDE, AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE OUR CRUST FOR OUR SCALLOPED SCALLOPS.

AND WE'RE GONNA BRING OUR BOWL OVER, AND WE'RE GONNA ADD SEVERAL INGREDIENTS.

IT'S GONNA BE KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU MAKE A CRACKER CRUMB CRUST.

WE'RE GONNA ADD BUTTER.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE CRACKER CRUMBS.

WE'RE GONNA ADD SOME SOUTHERN BAKE.

AND WE'RE GONNA MIX ALL THOSE TOGETHER WITH A LITTLE PARMESAN CHEESE TOO.

SO IT'S GONNA BE GREAT.

WE'RE GONNA START OUT WITH OUR CRACKER CRUMBS.

AND YOU CAN USE SALTINES IF YOU WANT.

YOU CAN USE A MIXTURE OF WHATEVER YOU HAVE.

MY FAMILY, WE LIKE OURSELVES SOME CRACKERS WITH SOME BUTTER IN THEM SO THAT'S WHAT WE MADE IN HERE TO JUST GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT-- A RICHER TASTE.

AND I JUST PUT THOSE IN MY FOOD PROCESSOR, GAVE THEM A PULSE UNTIL THEY WERE A FINE CRACKER CRUMB.

WE'RE GONNA ADD SOME PARMESAN CHEESE.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO ADD SOME CHICKEN BAKE IN HERE.

IT'S GOING TO GIVE IT SOME GREAT FLAVOR AS WELL AS BRING IT ALL TOGETHER.

SO WE'RE GONNA ADD ABOUT 1 CUP OF THIS.

AND WE'RE GONNA TOSS ALL OF OUR DRY INGREDIENTS TOGETHER SO THEY GET NICE AND MIXED, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA ADD IN OUR BUTTER.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THAT A TOSS.

AND IF YOU WANT, YOU CAN ADD, YOU KNOW, A VARIETY OF--YOU DON'T HAVE TO JUST USE SCALLOPS.

IF YOU HAVE SOME LEFTOVER WHITEFISH YOU WANT TO USE OR IF YOU HAVE SOME SHRIMP THAT YOU WANT TO USE, YOU CAN JUST MIX IT ALL UP AND MAKE A SCALLOPED SEAFOOD IF--IF YOU'D LIKE.

WE HAVE OUR 1/3 CUP OF BUTTER THAT WE'VE MELTED IN THE MICROWAVE.

AND I LIKE TO USE BUTTER AND NOT MARGARINE 'CAUSE I THINK BUTTER HAS A GREAT FLAVOR TO IT.

SO I'M GONNA USE THAT.

SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHEN YOU MAKE A CRACKER CRUMB CRUST.

AND GIVE THAT A TOSS UNTIL IT'S ALL COATED.

AND WE'RE GONNA BAKE THIS IN A--IN A SHALLOW PAN.

SO WE'RE GONNA USE A--THIS IS, LIKE, AN 8x11 BAKING DISH.

WE'RE GONNA SPRAY THAT WITH A NONSTICK SPRAY AND GET THAT READY.

WE'RE GONNA HEAT OUR OVEN TO 350 DEGREES.

AND THIS ONLY TAKES ABOUT 15 TO 20 MINUTES TO BAKE.

SO IT'S GONNA GO TOGETHER REALLY QUICKLY.

YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT IT IN YOUR OVEN, BAKE IT.

AND WHILE YOU'RE BAKING IT, YOU CAN MAKE YOUR SALAD OR YOU CAN STEAM YOUR VEGETABLES TO GO ALONG WITH IT, AND THEN YOU'RE READY FOR DINNER.

SO ONCE WE'VE GOT OUR MIXTURE ALL COMBINED WITH OUR BUTTER, WE'RE GONNA ADD IN OUR SCALLOPS AND GIVE IT A TOSS TO COAT OUR SCALLOPS, AND THEN WE ARE READY TO PUT IT IN OUR BAKING DISH.

SO WE'RE GONNA COAT THAT.

WE'RE GONNA PLACE THAT IN OUR BAKING DISH AND SPREAD IT OUT.

AND THEN WHAT'S GONNA HOLD THIS ALL TOGETHER IS WE'RE GONNA DRIZZLE SOME HALF AND HALF OVER IT SO YOU KNOW IT'S GONNA BE GOOD.

AND YOU CAN PUT SOME FRESH PARSLEY IN HERE OR SOME SCALLIONS WOULD BE NICE TOO.

GIVE IT A LITTLE BIT OF SOME ONION FLAVOR AND A LITTLE COLOR.

SO WE'RE JUST GONNA DRIZZLE THAT OVER.

LET IT SOAK IN.

LIKE I SAID, PUT IT IN THE OVEN AT 350 FOR ABOUT 25 MINUTES OR SO UNTIL IT'S ALL NICE AND BUBBLY.

IT'S GREAT.

SO LET'S TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN IT'S FINISHED.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S ALL NICE AND BUBBLY AND BROWN AND JUST--IT'S JUST SO GOOD.

AND THEN JUST SERVE IT WITH A TOSSED SALAD OR WITH SOME OTHER GREEN VEGETABLES, AND IT IS AN AWESOME DISH.

SO I HOPE YOU ENJOY THE SCALLOPED SCALLOPS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU HERE NEXT TIME ON SIMPLE COOKING.

- THANKS, DONNA.

GREAT RECIPE.

AND YOU'LL FIND OTHER GREAT RECIPES IN OUR CAROLINA OUTDOOR JOURNAL COOKBOOK, SOME OF MINE AND JOE'S FAVORITES, AT CAROLINAOUTDOORJOURNAL.COM.

JOE, LET'S GO BACK.

THE FISHING FOR THE SHARKS ON FLY RODS.

- YEAH, REALLY AND IT'S A--IT'S A FUN SPORT.

AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TACKLE, THE RIGHT FLY ROD, REEL, LINE, ALL-- EVERYTHING THAT YOU NEED TO-- COMES TOGETHER TO GO OUT THERE AND DO THAT TYPE OF FISHING.

BUT WE'VE GOT SHARKS JUST ABOUT YEAR-ROUND OFF OUR COASTS, BUT ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER MONTHS.

THIS WAS IN EARLY SEPTEMBER, AGAIN LABOR DAY WEEKEND WHEN IT WAS REALLY, REALLY HOT, AND THE SHARKS ARE THERE.

AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO--YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO CHUM THEM UP.

YOU HAVE TO BRING THEM TO YOU, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE SETUP THAT THEY DO.

AND--BUT THEY'RE THERE AND A LOT AND JUST A-- JUST A GREAT SPORT.

- AND IT'S ALL CATCH AND RELEASE.

- IT'S ALL CATCH AND RELEASE, YEAH.

- FOR JOE ALBEA, I'M JOHN MOORE.

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