Child This episode is part of the Wild Critters USA series, a collaboration with Arby, PBS Nature, and the National Wildlife Federation.

Robert All right, Hank, our Wild Critters Road Trip map says we're deep in the California wilderness today.

Robert It truly is the Wild West out here.

Robert Hey, Hank, look at that tree.

Robert It looks like it has some pretty gnarly scratches.

Robert They look just like the claw marks that we saw 20 miles ago.

Robert Look how high they are and how deep.

Robert What do you think made those?

Robert A woodpecker?

Robert Hank, those aren't peck marks.

Robert Those are claw marks.

Robert A dinosaur?

Robert I don't think so.

Robert A bear?

Robert Well, maybe.

Robert Let's get back in the car and keep going.

Robert Wait, Hank, don't move.

Robert Do you feel that?

Robert It feels like something is watching us.

Robert Hank, let's turn around.

Robert very slowly.

Robert Whoa, Hank, look!

Up on that hill, there's something big and it's looking right at us.

Robert It kind of looks like a lion, but we're not in Africa.

Robert Or maybe a tiger or a cheetah.

Robert Whatever it is, it sure looks incredible.

Robert Let's go learn more about it.

Robert Hey, Orbiters!

Today we're learning about an animal whose territory can be almost as big as an entire city.

Robert The mountain lion.

Robert You orbiters sent in some fantastic questions.

Child Where do mountain lions live?

Child How big is a mountain lion?

Child Do mountain lions only eat meat?

Child If so, how much?

Robert And to help us out, we found an incredible guest.

Robert His name is Mr.

Robert Marco from the San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance.

Robert Welcome to orbit, Mr.

Robert Marco.

Marco Wendt Buenos dias orbiters.

Marco Wendt My name is Marco Wendt.

Marco Wendt I'm A Wildlife Ambassador for San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance.

Marco Wendt And my job is I get to talk about all the fun conservation projects and wildlife that we have here in sunny San Diego.

Robert And Mr.

Robert Marco, what were you like as a kid?

Marco Wendt I loved going out in nature when I was a little kid.

Marco Wendt I'd love to get muddy, play in Marco Wendt ponds and rivers.

Marco Wendt I love to read about dinosaurs and I absolutely loved watching cartoons like Captain Planet and be a superhero when I was a very little guy.

Robert You dreamed about being a superhero and now you get to work with the San Diego Zoo being a superhero for so many animals.

Robert We can't wait to start learning with you.

Robert Here we go orbiters.

Robert And one more thing before we jump in, a special shout out to our friends, Lola and Max from Seville, Spain.

Robert Thank you for joining the Curious Club and supporting Cumbre Kids podcast.

Robert Y'all are the best.

Robert Okay, Mr.

Robert Marco, so today we're talking about mountain lions.

Robert Ygritte and I both really like lions, and we want to know more about the whole lion thing.

Child Hi, Orbit.

Child My name is Ygritte Mostajo.

Child I'm 10 years old.

Child I live in Santa Cruz, Bolivia.

Child And my question is, what are the differences between the mountain and the common lions?

Child Thank you.

Child Bye.

Robert And before Mr.

Robert Marco responds, orbiters, let's form a hypothesis.

Robert There are two categories of cats, big cats Robert little cats.

Robert Do you think a mountain lion falls into the big cat category or the little cat category?

Robert Shout out your answer.

Robert Okay, Mr.

Robert Marco, go ahead.

Marco Wendt Mountain lions are a wild cat species found on our planet, and they are different than, say, maybe a lion or a tiger, which belong to what's called the big cat category, which means you can roar like a lion.

Marco Wendt A smaller cat category like the mountain lion do a purr behavior.

Marco Wendt not the roar, and that's what separates them from other big cats.

Marco Wendt But mountain lions are the biggest of the small cats and can be found only in the Americas.

Robert Isn't that cool, Orbiters?

Robert So even though a mountain lion is a pretty big cat size-wise, it can't roar like a lion or a tiger or a jaguar.

Robert So a mountain lion is in the smaller cat category, which purrs like a house cat.

Robert This category includes mountain lions, cheetahs, bobcats, and ocelots.

Robert Hey, Mr.

Robert Marco, speaking of these different types of cats, I've heard of things like pumas, cougars, and panthers.

Robert Are those different from mountain lions?

Marco Wendt Yes, now mountain lions, pumas, cougars, all of these names are ways of describing this beautiful wild cat species.

Marco Wendt But I will say for the word panther, sometimes people use the word panther also to reference maybe a black jaguar or a black leopard.

Robert Lots of names for one species.

Robert I wonder if mountain lions ever get confused and wish people would just choose one name.

Robert Hey, let's get to this question from Josh and Kabir.

Child Hello, my name is Josh and I'm four years old.

Child And my question is, where do mountain lions live?

Child Hello, my name is Kabir and I am six years old and I live in Washington, D.C.

Child And my question is, where do mountain lions live?

Marco Wendt Mountain lions are found in the Americas, so as far north as Canada and as far south as the tip of South America, which covers a wide variety of different ecosystems.

Marco Wendt So mountain lion can thrive in a desert, a forest, a mountain, a swamp, or even a valley.

Robert Wow, they sure live in a lot of places.

Robert orbiters, we've talked about some animals that have very specific living conditions, like the Mojave Desert Tortoise, which is specially adapted for deserts, or coral polyps, which can only live in shallow, warm, clear waters.

Robert The mountain lion is different.

Robert You can find them all over the Americas, from the tippy top in Canada all the way to the bottom in Chile.

Robert They can live in the cold and warm places and rainy places and dry places in mountains.

Robert They have this incredible superpower of being able to survive in a wide range of environments.

Robert I just thought that was super neat.

Robert But speaking of different environments, Leah and I have a question about cold places.

Child Hi, I'm Leah.

Child And I'm 5, and I'm from Glen Ellyn, Illinois.

Child And my question is, how do mountain lions climb in deep snow?

Child Thank you.

Child Bye.

Marco Wendt Mountain lions can totally live in the snow as they live in a lot of places in the Americas where you can find snow.

Marco Wendt A mountain lion's thick coat and wide paws help them adapt to a snowy habitat.

Robert Wide paws help by spreading a mountain lion's weight out so they don't sink super deep into the snow.

Robert Kind of like cat snowshoes.

Robert Another trick is something called direct registering.

Robert When a mountain lion walks, it steps its back paws exactly into the tracks that its front paws just made.

Robert When it's snowy, Robert energy on long treks, and it also keeps them quiet when they're sneaking up on something.

Robert Hello, Orbit.

Child My name is Samuel.

Child I am seven years old.

Child I live in the United States, and my question is, how big is the Mountain Lion territory?

Child Thank you, Orbit.

Child Hi, my name is Victoria.

Child I'm five years old.

Child I live in North Carolina, and my question is, how big is the Mountain Lion's territory?

Marco Wendt Mountain lion territories can vary depending where they can be found in the Americas, but they're usually so huge.

Marco Wendt A single cat in an area can cover up to 20 to 300 square miles.

Marco Wendt That's almost as big as an entire city.

Robert Can you imagine that, Orbiters?

Robert I just have a bedroom to myself.

Robert Fine, Hank.

Robert We have a bedroom to ourselves.

Robert But a mountain lion needs a space as big as an entire city to be able to hunt and find shelter and care for its cubs.

Robert That's a lot of space.

Robert Hey, Robert Speaking of territory, that reminds me of this question from our friend, Sam.

Child Hello, my name is Sam.

Child I'm 8 years old.

Child I live in Farley, New Jersey.

Child And my question is, how does a mountain lion find its own territory?

Child Thank you.

Child Bye.

Robert We brought this question to our friend, David Mezajewski.

Robert Mr.

Robert David is a science advisor for Ranger Rick Magazine from the National Wildlife Federation and is helping us out with this Wild Critter series.

Robert Hey, Mr.

Robert David, how does a young mountain lion find its own territory?

David M. Great question, Sam.

David M. It's not easy for young mountain lions to find their own territories.

David M. Other mountain lions have usually taken all the good territory nearby, and a lot of former mountain lion habitat has been turned into farms and cities and neighborhoods for people.

David M. That means that young cats sometimes have to wander really far looking for a place to call home.

David M. One Western mountain lion born in South Dakota walked all the way to Connecticut on the East Coast.

David M. That's halfway across the country.

David M. It can be dangerous for these young David M. mountain lions when they have to cross busy roads.

David M. In some places like California and Florida, special road crossings have been built to help mountain lions and other wildlife cross safely.

Robert Hey parents, if you'd like to continue learning about incredible wildlife, Ranger Rick Magazine has some great resources for families.

Robert I'll leave a link in the show notes.

Robert Okay, lots of us are curious about what mountain lions eat.

Child Hi, my name's Aether.

Child I live in Venice Beach, California, and I'm seven years old.

Child My question is, what's the mountain lion's diet?

Child My name is Caleb, and I live in Illinois with my brother, Joshua.

Child And me and my brother have a question.

Child What do mountain lions eat?

Child Hi, my name's Kenji.

Child I'm six years old.

Child And my question is, do mountain lions only eat meat?

Child If so, how much?

Robert But Orbiters, let's make it a quiz.

Robert What do you think a mountain lion likes to eat?

Robert Is it A, they like to dig deep underground to catch buried animals like gophers?

Robert Or B, they like to swim deep in rivers, hunting for clams and crawfish?

Robert Or C, they like to chase animals on land like deer and rabbits?

Robert Or D, they like to eat plants like strawberries and grass?

Robert Shout out your answer.

Marco Wendt Mountain lions are a carnivore, which means they absolutely love eating meat, and they eat a variety of different things depending where you can find them in the Americas.

Marco Wendt As an example, a mountain lion can eat maybe a deer, a pig, a capybara, a raccoon, an armadillo, a hare, squirrels, and even sometimes an elk or a moose.

Robert That's a lot of different types of animals, right, Orbiters?

Robert That's one reason that the mountain lion is found all over the Americas.

Robert Wherever it lives, it can find various types of animals Robert Super yummy.

Robert Hi.

Child Orbit.

Child My name is Cristobal.

Child I am seven years old.

Child I live in Panama City.

Child And my question is, how many kilometers per hour does the motor lions go?

Child Hi, Child I am eight years old.

Child I am from Camas, Washington.

Child My question is, how fast can mountain lions run?

Child Hi, my name is Federico Ayala Gomera.

Child I'm five years old and I live in Gainesville, Florida.

Child My question is, how fast does a mountain lion run?

Robert Hank, do you think I can run as fast as a mountain lion?

Robert But Hank, I'm pretty fast.

Robert Okay, maybe you're red.

Robert Mountain lions do look pretty fast.

Robert Hey, Mr.

Robert Marco, just how fast are we talking?

Marco Wendt Now, mountain lions are not as fast as a cheetah, but they're still really, really fast.

Marco Wendt They can run roughly 30 to 50 mph.

Marco Wendt That's about 48 to 80 kilometers.

Robert 50 miles per hour?

Robert If you lined up the fastest human being in the world, he could run around 27 miles per hour.

Robert So a mountain lion is almost twice as fast.

Robert Hank, I guess you were right.

Child Hi, I'm Samantha from Costa Rica.

Child I'm seven years old and I want to know, do mountain lions like to swim?

Child Thank you.

Marco Wendt Mountain lions don't really enjoy swimming, I have to say.

Marco Wendt they're not like a tiger, but if they have to swim to cross a river or maybe to capture prey, they definitely will do it.

Marco Wendt But not their favorite thing to do.

Robert So no birthday swimming pool parties for mountain lions.

Robert Hey, now that we've learned a lot about mountain lions, let's take a moment for a mystery sound.

Robert You can move around and wiggle while you listen and think about what the sound is.

Robert Think you got it?

Robert Here's a hint in the form of a riddle.

Robert My tail feathers have circles on them that look just like little eyes.

Robert What am I?

Robert Stick around to the end for the answer.

Robert Okay, Mr.

Robert Marco, I heard that you and the San Diego Zoo had to go on a super important mission to save some mountain lion cubs.

Robert Let's set the stage first.

Robert Where were the cubs living?

Marco Wendt The San Diego Zoo Safari Park is an 1800 acre conservation park, but we have 900 acres called our Wildlife Biodiversity Reserve.

Robert Orbiters, 1800 acres is more than 1000 football or soccer fields.

Robert It's about the Robert of two central parks from New York City.

Robert So this is a really, really big area.

Marco Wendt It is untouched land for local wildlife.

Marco Wendt You can find so many species like 20.

Marco Wendt 24 mammals, 179 birds, 28 reptiles, and four amphibian species.

Marco Wendt Such a vibrant wild area in Southern California.

Robert All right, so we have three cubs living with their mom on this huge, untouched wild space.

Robert Kiara and I want to know why these three cubs needed rescuing in the 1st place.

Marco Wendt Hi, my name is Kiara.

Speaker 5 I am seven years old.

Speaker 5 I live in Camas, Washington.

Speaker 5 And my question is, how did the baby cubs get separated from their mother?

Speaker 5 Thank you.

Speaker 5 Bye.

Marco Wendt At the Wildlife Biodiversity Reserve, our researchers and scientists were monitoring a female mountain lion named F307, who was part of the collaborative conservation effort to foster human and wildlife coexistence, F307.

Robert That's kind of a funny name, right Orbiters?

Robert That would be kind of like instead of naming Hank, Hank, I named him M109.

Robert Hank doesn't like that name very much.

Robert Scientists use names like this because researchers have been tracking mountain lions in this part of California for a long time, including many different mountain lions.

Robert So a code like F307 helps everyone stay organized and know which animal they're talking about.

Robert The letter can tell researchers something useful, like whether it's a female or a male.

Robert And the number is like a serial number, so no 2 mountain lions ever get mixed up.

Robert Mr.

Robert Marco told me that scientists were monitoring adult F307, and they got some really sad news.

Robert F307 had died after she came into contact with some people, but the story gets interesting here.

Marco Wendt But our researchers and scientists thought that she might actually have cubs.

Marco Wendt She kept visiting a particular site in the biodiversity reserve.

Robert Hold on, orbiters, detective hats on.

Robert If a mountain lion Robert When mom keeps going back to the exact same space over and over, what do you think she might be hiding there?

Robert No, Hank, I don't think it's her secret stash of doggy treats.

Robert Here's the big clue that helped a scientist crack the case.

Robert Scientists had put a special collar on F307 previously.

Robert It's kind of like the collar that Hank wears.

Robert But instead of a name tag, this collar had a special piece of technology called GPS, which talks to satellites way up in outer space to track her exact location.

Robert And when scientists looked at all those location dots, Robert They noticed that she kept coming back to that one safe spot again and again.

Robert That's because mountain lion moms don't bring their cubs everywhere.

Robert They tuck them somewhere safe.

Robert Then they head out to hunt.

Robert Kind of like when a grown-up in your family leaves for work and comes back later in the day.

Robert Raise your hand if someone in your house does that.

Robert So the scientists put their clues together like puzzle pieces and made a hypothesis.

Robert F307 might have cubs hidden at that spot.

Marco Wendt So our scientists and our researchers and our collaborators Marco Wendt together to help try to save and rescue these three orphan cubs.

Child Hello, my name is Margaret.

Child I am eight years old.

Child I live in Atlanta, Georgia.

Child And my question is, how did you know where to find the mountain lion cubs?

Child Thank you.

Child Bye, Rob.

Robert Exactly, Margaret.

Robert Without their mom, the cubs were in real danger.

Robert The cubs were too young to hunt for food, and they didn't have milk from their mom or protection that their mom would give them from other predators.

Marco Wendt When it was clear that she had lost her life, our experts and our partners used tracking technology to locate and rescue her cubs before it was too late.

Robert So they started with that special area that they had seen F307 visiting, but it's still a really big area.

Robert And mountain lion cubs are very good at hiding.

Robert They're kind of like experts at hide and seek.

Robert Every day, every hour without their mom made things a little bit more dangerous for the cubs.

Robert So it was a race against the clock.

Robert Day one, no cubs.

Robert Day 2, still nothing.

Robert Had something happened to them?

Robert Without their mom nearby, hungry coyotes could be lurking close by, and three tiny mountain lion cubs alone in the wild would make an easy meal.

Robert But the search teams didn't give up.

Robert They pushed through the thick brush, the steep hills, the rocky terrain, hoping to find any sign of the three hiding cubs before it was too late.

Marco Wendt Now these teams were determined and committed, but it took them about a week of dedicated searching through tough terrain.

Marco Wendt But miraculously, all three cubs were found and brought to safety in time.

Robert Everybody do a happy dance.

Robert The cubs were safe.

Robert Hey, Mr.

Robert Marco, what happened to the cubs after you found them?

Marco Wendt After we rescued the three mountain lion cubs, they were so dehydrated and they were brought to our veterinary hospital at the safari park.

Robert So they weren't totally safe quite yet.

Robert Dehydrated means they hadn't had anything to drink in a long time, like water or their mom's milk.

Robert So they were very thirsty.

Robert And if baby mammals go too long without milk, dehydration can threaten their life.

Robert But that's no problem for the team at a place like the San Diego Zoo, who knew exactly what kinds of nutrition and hydration to give the three cute and very thirsty little mountain lion cubs.

Marco Wendt And to honor mom's legacy, who was named 307, the cubs were given that particular name in numbers using the Kumeyaay language of the native people.

Marco Wendt So we have Hemuk, meaning three, we have Teoye, meaning zero, and Pike, meaning seven.

Robert Hemuk, Teoye, and Pike sound like 3 very special little mountain lion cubs.

Robert Hey, Mr.

Robert Marco, what happened to the cubs later?

Robert Did you release them to the wild?

Marco Wendt Now, because the mountain Marco Wendt lion cubs weren't old enough to have learned any survival skills from their mama.

Marco Wendt It was determined by the California Department of Fish and Wildlife Service that they couldn't be reintroduced into their native habitat.

Marco Wendt So they were given a forever home at the safari park.

Robert Did you know that, Orbiters?

Robert Babies and young animals and some species spend a lot of time with their mothers.

Robert And while they're doing that, they're watching how she hunts, how she climbs, how she moves, and the places that she visits.

Robert They're learning really important skills Robert for them to be able to live on their own someday.

Robert Not all animals are like this, though.

Robert We learned about Wanda the wood turtle a few weeks ago.

Robert After baby wood turtles hatch, they have all the skills they need to survive, and they're totally alone.

Robert But mountain lion cubs need a mom to help them with really important lessons.

Marco Wendt And now it's close to three years now, and Hemuk, Taoyi, and Pike have grown from vulnerable cubs to thriving adults.

Robert Three happy mountain lions living at the San Diego Zoo's safari park.

Robert And Mr.

Robert Marco, who worked together to save the mountain lion cubs.

Marco Wendt This was a whole collaboration of so many people, not only San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance, the University of California, Davis Wildlife Health Center, and also the California Department of Fish and Wildlife.

Marco Wendt But there were so many people in the Safari Park team from wildlife care, from technology, from press, social media, education, riders, even mechanics.

Marco Wendt It was a whole familia dedicated to save these mountain.

Robert That is such a cool story.

Robert Lots of different types of people from zoos, universities, and the state government bringing their unique skills to save the cubs.

Robert None of them could have done this alone, but together they could bring their different expertise to protect the cubs.

Robert Hey Orbiters, I don't know about you, but I'm ready to stretch and move around a little bit.

Robert For today's movement, you can practice being a mountain lion stalking its prey.

Robert If you're in the car, you can do this with your hands and your imagination.

Robert And while we're being mountain lions, let's recap what we've learned.

Robert Mountain lions are part of the small cat category, not the big cat category, because they purr instead of roar.

Robert We learned that a puma, a cougar, and a mountain lion are all just different names for the very same animal, and they can live almost anywhere in the Americas, from cold Canada all the way down to South America.

Robert Mountain lions are carnivores that hunt animals like deer, rabbits, and even elk.

Robert And they can run up to 50 miles an hour, almost twice as fast as the fastest human on earth.

Robert We also heard the incredible true story of three mountain lion cubs in California.

Robert After their mom passed away, a whole team of experts brought their unique skills and worked together to save these amazing little animals.

Robert Hey, Mr.

Robert Marco, Kiara and I have another question.

Speaker 5 Hi, my name is Kiara.

Speaker 5 I am 7 years old.

Speaker 5 I live in Camas, Washington.

Speaker 5 My question is, are mountain lions endangered?

Marco Wendt In general, mountain lions, pumas, whatever you want to call them, are not endangered.

Marco Wendt But the Florida panther, which is a subspecies found in the areas of Florida, unfortunately are endangered.

Marco Wendt There's only about 120 to about 230 adults left in the wild.

Robert So for orbiters who live in Florida in the United States, you might live close to a special type of mountain lion that needs help.

Robert Hey, Mr.

Robert Marco, Misa asked a really good question too.

Child Hi, my name is Misa calling from Pasadena, California.

Child I'm 4 years old and my question is, are mountain lions bad for people?

Marco Wendt Mountain lions are a keystone species from Canada to South America.

Marco Wendt And that means by helping a mountain lion, you can help out a deer, you can help out a rabbit, and you can even help out a human being.

Marco Wendt Having a rich, thriving ecosystem includes a mountain lion and human beings.

Robert Hey Orbiters, do you remember what a keystone species is?

Robert It's an animal that plays a very important role in its environment.

Robert It makes the ecosystem function correctly for other animals.

Robert When you remove a keystone species, other animals are negatively impacted and the whole ecosystem is hurt.

Robert Do you remember any of the other keystone species?

Robert You might know some of your own, or you might remember some from recent episodes.

Robert Take a moment to talk as a family.

Robert Some that you might have mentioned were the Mojave desert tortoise, because of the burrows that it digs, or the American alligator, because the gator holes that helps other animals in the dry season.

Robert Or the American bison, because of their role creating healthy grasslands.

Robert And now the mountain lion, because of their important role hunting and keeping animal populations under control.

Robert And next week, we're going to talk about another keystone species, the sea otter.

Robert But you'll have to come back to learn why.

Robert I asked Mr.

Robert Marco and the team at the San Diego Zoo how families that live close to mountain lion territory can be safe.

Robert They gave me some great tips.

Robert The best way for people and mountain lions to live peacefully is to give them space.

Robert As more people have moved into mountain lion territory, the number of times people come across mountain lions has increased.

Robert This is often big news and it frightens people.

Robert But overall, meeting a mountain lion is not very likely.

Robert They usually try to avoid people.

Robert You can avoid them too by not hiking alone.

Robert If you are hiking, make sure that you're making noise so that you don't surprise any mountain lions.

Robert When they know where you are, they can stay away from you.

Robert And if you're camping, Robert Don't leave food out around the cabin or a campsite, especially at night.

Robert And finally, if you do see a mountain lion, never approach it.

Robert It's a wild animal and it likes to be left alone.

Robert Hey, Mr.

Robert Marco, anything else that orbiters can do to help mountain lions?

Marco Wendt Supporting your local accredited zoos and aquariums is a great way to support mountain lions because here in Southern California, where I live, the proximity to people has put mountain lions at risk to population decline and even extinction in Marco Wendt So the best way to support these wonderful animals is support those zoos, those aquariums, and those wildlife organizations doing so much work to protect local wildlife.

Robert These organizations have teams of people who help wildlife, like the three mountain lion cubs today.

Robert And if you want.

Marco Wendt To learn more about our three vibrant cub species, be sure to check out our website at SDZWildlifeExplorers.org.

Robert I'll leave that link at the show notes, parents.

Robert Hey, Mr.

Robert Marco, thanks for joining us on orbit today.

Marco Wendt It's so much fun talking to all of you about our three mountain lion cubs and I hope that you can visit us here at the San Diego Safari Park.

Robert That sounds awesome.

Marco Wendt And don't forget, orbiters, that you have the power to change the world.

Marco Wendt So get out there, go feel some grass underneath your feet, breathe some fresh air, go get dirty and get excited about Mother Nature.

Marco Wendt And remember, you are the future conservationists of our beautiful planet.

Robert Hey parents.

Robert Our guest today was Marco Wendt, Wildlife Ambassador for the San Diego Zoo Wildlife Alliance.

Robert We'll leave information about the San Diego Zoo in the show notes.

Robert And before we wrap up, I bet a few of you are curious about the mystery sound.

Robert Do you remember it?

Robert If you said it's a peacock, you were right.

Robert Way to go.

Robert I just love their tail feathers.

Robert Maybe someday we can learn about peacocks together.

Robert All right, Orbiters, that's all for today.

Robert This episode is part of the Wild Critters series, a collaboration with our friends at PBS Nature and the National Wildlife Federation.

Robert Orbit is produced by Kumbre Kids.

Robert This episode was written by me, Robert Carpenter.

Robert The producer is Herwin Riera.

Robert Artwork for the episode by Moises Monsalde and Jorge Wake.

Robert Parents, if you enjoyed this episode, can you take a moment to leave a review for us on Spotify or Apple Podcast?

Robert Hank and I would sure appreciate it.

Robert Okay, we'll see you in the next episode.

Robert Ciao.

Child The important thing is not to stop questioning Albert Einstein.