- When Rob was hired in 1978, women's basketball was not even recognized by the NCAA.

- There was starting to be some grumbling.

Title IX was definitely in the news.

It was something that there was a lot of debate about, but it was something that was coming.

- In 1964, Title VI of the Civil Rights Act was passed, and the protected classes were race, color, and national origin.

Prominently, sex was not part of the protections in 1964.

Title IX was passed in 1972.

In 1975, the regulations were promulgated, and that's really where the, sort of, the rubber hits the road.

That became prescriptive on what steps you actually have to take.

It made sure that women had equal playing time, uniform, scholarship opportunities, publicity, equipment, good facilities.

- Which seemed like a no-brainer to me.

If you're federally funded, why aren't my daughters getting the same opportunities that my sons are?

- The disparity in men and women's sports before Title IX was pretty drastic.

- There was no equipment room.

We bought our own shoes.

We basically wore our own practice gear.

- The locker room we had, it was a fairly small locker room.

It was down at the end of the field house.

We were lucky, one of the boosters carpeted our locker room the second year.

- The shower didn't even work.

I mean, there was one toilet in there and a urinal.

- Our weight room was this little room under the stairs.

I don't even know if it's a room anymore.