Continental Drift and Global Warming
I just had a hallway conversation with a colleague, most of whose work is in paleontology. Much of his recent work has been in providing fine-grained measures of climate variability in late prehistorical times. The time period between ten and twenty thousand years ago is of great interest to climatologists because it was a period of rapid warming and huge climate shifts, especially as compared to the unusually stable conditions of the subsequent ten thousand years. It's clear that this stability is coming to an end.
Hank stopped me because he had recently discovered my blogging efforts. I always cringe a bit when someone says that, especially around the Institute, which after all is a very conservative place with lots of ties to the fossil fuel industry.
Hank has been around the earth sciences long enough that some of his oldest professors in school predated the understanding of continental drift.
Continental drift, or more properly "plate tectonics" is the theory of how continents rearranged their positions over time. According to Wikipedia (whence this public domain image) the mechanisms and evidence for this emerged substantially around 1950, but effective unanimity among geologists took decades after that to achieve.
Many geologists in living memory went to their graves believing that the whole idea was a ridiculous fad, even as evidence started piling up form various different directions about the magnitude and timing of it all. And of course, there was some resistance from the most literalist among religious camps, who had trouble with any process taking millions of years.
As he has moved gradually into climate from geology, Hank's awareness of climate change theory greatly predates his awareness of the peculiar structure of the public debate. Increasingly, he is running into friends of friends who take a distrustful attitude toward him for even participating in the study of climate. He finds people making extravagant statements about Mr. Gore and his movie, despite the fact that any substantive criticisms of it are very minor. He finds himself getting into very bitter arguments about matters that should be matters of dispassionate reasoning, not of partisan bickering.
I explained to him that I have been watching this pattern emerge for twenty years now, how there is strong overlap with anti-communism and with the tobacco industry, and how, after all, the problem does have a slight ideological tinge: there aren't any solutions that make any sense that don't involve the collective will. All of this largely affected by Naomi Oreseks' remarkable work on studying the obfuscators. In the linked lecture, she makes the comparison directly. (See also this related presentation on YouTube.)
It wasn't me or Oreskes, though, who brought up to Hank the analogy to continental drift. He came up with it independently. The point is that some people are inaccessible to evidence, no matter how cogent. The further you have stuck your neck out, the harder it is to consider the whole fabric of evidence. The dwindling opposition eventually finds itself grasping at straws.
There are differences though. What the general public belives and understands about global climate forcing and global climate response has consequences. It is (or at least it's perceived to be) in the interest of certain corporations to prolong the indecision as long as possible.
I pointed out that what was new about the situation is the injection of ideology beyond the realm of opinion and into the realm of facts. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan was quoted as saying that one is entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own facts. That always seemed to me nothing more than a clever tautology, but apparently it is no longer an obvious distinction to some people. This is pretty unfortunate.
Then Hank pointed something new out to me. He suggested that fifty years from now, when the consequences become huge and inescapable, scientists will be blamed. "They should have known better, but they kept sending us mixed messages," he predicts, is what people will say about us.
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March 27, 2008 6:27 PM
Jon Snow
This is the damned if you do, damned if you don't trope. I have no doubt that your colleague's prognostication will be correct, but in the mean time any scientist that chooses to enter the public dialog and go beyond the necessarily constrained language of science is labeled an "alarmist"/"activist"/"ideologue", etc.
A lot of people that I truly respect feel that it simply isn't a scientist's place to be an advocate of anything approaching policy.
So uncertainty is blown beyond all reasonable proportion, unequivocal proof is demanded by pols, and meaningful action is left to chance.
The EPA, for example, is dodging the issue once again...
Anyway, great to see you over at Wired/PBS.
March 28, 2008 10:04 AM
damon
Nice post Michael. I received a comment from Matt Fenaroli that is addressed to both of us so I wanted it up on your post as well.
Michael, Damon,
If all or most of the water that is trapped as ice on land were to return to the oceans would the central US become an inland sea again? Is the land (in the US)higher now then in the past? Where I live in Kansas City there is a great layer of limestone, apparently the bottom of an ancient ocean(?). I'd be curious to see a map of modeled ocean rise. Last question, is the amount of water on the planet the same over eons with only it's state changing? I guess the question is, is Earth a closed system and does the conservation of energy apply?
Cheers
Matt
PS # 33 returned safely from Egypt this AM
March 30, 2008 7:21 PM
N1XIM
Interesting post. Lots of 'ground' covered--good job.
As for the question of the Earth being a closed system with limited water, etc, the answer is most definitely a no. According to a source I don't have documented at the moment (something PBS more likely than not), the Earth gains something on the order of 40,000 tons of matter per year in large part from comets and meteors--a fairly large portion of which is water (I'm not sure if those are Imperial, customary, or metric tons). Also, Earth is most certianly not a closed system--but for many intents and purposes it clearly appears as if it were.
(If the sun were to suddenly go dark in approximately eight minutes we'd all be singing a very different tune--something you'd realize if you'd ever observed a solar eclipse in person. QED, the Earth is not a closed system.)
As for the question of the middle of what is now the continental USA flooding again as it did some 135 to 65 MYA, that is highly unlikely. Due to tectonic movement--and the resultant dramatic uplift of much of the land west of the Mississippi River, any currently foreseen increase in sea level does not threaten most of (if not all of) Kansas. New York on the other hand would likely gurgle a different tune if the more dire predictions were to come true--and I don't mean just NYC, as Albany is mostly below 50 feet above sea level. That said, Earth has gained a lot of water since then--so only fools would claim they knew the answer for certain.
April 18, 2008 11:05 AM
unis
i have a questian how does this both envolve global warming and the drift they have nothing in common
April 18, 2008 11:11 AM
Michael Tobis
What they have in common was that the public and a few older scientists retained doubt long after the evidence was overwhelming and considered part of the basic structure of science by its practitioners.
If you follow the links to the Oreskes presentations you can see more about the analogy.
May 19, 2008 3:27 AM
scispam
Scientists have been warning lawmakers and the public for several decades. There is no one to blame but the policymakers who accept bribes from special interests in the name of free speech! Whether or not they blame scientists or not is irrelevant to the fact that we will fall like the Roman Empire!
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