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Video Extra: "Its Not a Matter of If, It's a Matter of When"

April 17, 2008 6:30 PM | Comments (31)

Sfc. Toby Nunn talks candidly about his conversations with his driver Spc. Hamlin and his gunner Spc. Jonathan Serbellon about the inevitable event of an attack on their vehicle.

not if but when

31 Comments

By Kevin Lathrop on April 17, 2008 7:10 PM

Your clip on preparation for an attack makes me reflect on my own work. As a teacher, I deal with a certain amount of stress in the course of a day, but it is nothing compared with what you handle. I can't hazard a guess as to how you deal with it or the toll it must take. I imagine being in a team helps- everyone in the same boat. In a way, the understanding of other human beings is all any of us has.

By Sue on April 17, 2008 8:07 PM

Continued prayers for all your safety. Nothing could be better than having you all come back in good health to wind up this story. I can't imaging how you feel knowing you will be hit, because of your honesty and willingness to share, I can appreciate you all that much more.
God Bless, Sue

By Averyl on April 17, 2008 8:15 PM

I and everyone else who is following your story will keep checking up on you here and are looking forward to WHEN you come back home. You are never alone or without thousands of cheerleaders and people praying for you, even if we are all far away.

By Penny on April 17, 2008 9:46 PM

No...please don't think that it's inevitable that it's a matter of "when".

I'm praying that each and every one of you make it home alive and whole.

We all love you here, here in the USA and want you back.

By James on April 17, 2008 11:15 PM

Stay strong out there soldier(s). We here at home are enjoying the vids, and appreciate what you are doing out there. Godspeed.

By Mike on April 18, 2008 12:43 AM

I envy you, the courage you all have, to go out day after day, month after month and face what you face. Politics are ignoble, and yet you are noble. Stay safe Voodoo.
-mike

By missdub on April 18, 2008 1:09 AM

This video leaves me speechless and fill my eyes with tears.

Been prayin' for y'all since I watched the film.
Will keep prayin' as long as I have to.

I've enough faith for all of you. God Bless

By sean coon on April 18, 2008 9:37 AM

so. damn. sad.

we haven't been at "war" in iraq for years now; instead our men and women are sitting targets as professional security and convoy drivers.

i know this is a quagmire, but c'mon. is this what our troops are going to be doing for the next 20 years?

By Gloria on April 18, 2008 10:05 AM

The intensity/realness of what you say and are doing in the video hits home again. I can't imagine the stress of going out there every day on the road....especially those young 18 and 19 year old kids. Let there be no doubt about the guts that this young generation has. Hold on to the fact that lots of guys return safely.......and that many, many people here are trusting that you and the rest of Bad Voodoo will too.

By heidi on April 18, 2008 10:44 AM

Praying for your safe return from a place we never should have gone.

By Jason Steans on April 18, 2008 4:00 PM

You guys are doing a brave thing not only in serving out your normal tour of duty, but by sharing your experiences in making these films. Your willingness to share your personal experiences and thoughts conveys more understanding to viewers than a thousand press conferences or news clips. Since so many more Iraqis have died in comparison to U.S. forces, I don't think that many Americans understand the day to day stresses that our troops are constantly living with, and you've helped us to all understand what it means to be constantly putting our forces in harm's way. Personally, I'm against the war, but I support what you guys are doing 110%. Keep up the good work, know that we're all thinking about you, and please come home safely.

Thanks for all you do.

By Lisa on April 18, 2008 4:34 PM

Tell me, what, if anything can I do to help? It's frustrating to watch you all give so much, and not feel like I'm doing anything to help, but I don't know what to do. I don't personally know anyone in Iraq or Afghanistan, but I'd be happy to "adopt" some soldiers if there are any that could use an extra Mama. I'm a good listener.

By Matt Coffield on April 18, 2008 10:40 PM

I know what you are going through. I was in Baghdad in 2003 (long before it got really, really bad), and I prepared myself and my soldiers (MP team ASV team leader) for the possibility of taking fire, IEDs, VBIEDs, snipers, etc. I was not afraid of dying. I was afraid more for my buddies than anything else. You get so close to people when you are in tight sitautions...they become your extended family. When a female soldier in another platoon was killed, we all felt pain....all 120 of us. I am out now, and I think back on those days often. You really can only trust your buddies and yourself, because most folks don't know about what you're going through. I'm glad PBS is showing your side of the War. Good luck, Charlie Mike, and Roger, Out.

By Rick Tatina on April 19, 2008 12:03 AM

Thank you guys for serving our country, It is truly an honor to me and your courage and bravery I cannot comprehend. I am so very thankful to God for you and what you do.
with unceasing thanks,
Rick Tatina

By Evan P on April 19, 2008 12:19 PM

I am holding out for your safe return...A lot of people over here are keeping you guys in our thoughts. I am one of them.

I just wanted to shout out to Deborah for the incredible work she has done, and to thank toby and jason for sharing their stories - stories have the power to change minds and hearts in a way that allows for real change. Your stories are incredibly engaging and tough to forget, and that is what makes them extraordinarily powerful.

By noelle on April 19, 2008 3:23 PM

This latest video is very unsettling. Are the men in the platoon traumatized by their assignment (@#! driving up and down Iraq escorting private contracted vehicles)? I certainly couldn't do it. Who decided this is a best use for these highly Combat-trained men? Just send then home, please. Take care of yourself, Bad Voodoo and get back home. Are you returning in May as stated in the original video? When do you get to leave Iraq? I am praying for your safe return.

By Mary Ann on April 19, 2008 9:08 PM

It's hard to find the words to tell you how I'm feeling after watching this update. The reality of your lives over there is tough to see, but so important to see. The strain on your face is deeper now. My prayers will be added to the others that are being sent your way for your continues safety there and a swift, safe homecoming to your families.

By maddison on April 19, 2008 10:00 PM

This just shows people that soldiers are not faceless heartless machines. There is a true humanity in these videos, and I've gotten chills when I've watched some of them. Now if we could just get out of this mess, it would all be good...

By Tracie on April 20, 2008 5:43 PM

I don't think that any of you have an idea of the impact you have made on others regarding this war. You have made it real to so many, because of you, we now have someone we care about out there. You have put a face to the numbers and statistics we read about the war. I personally think of ya'll (Louisiana Girl!) often and keep up with this story.

May God continue to hold you in his hand. Many thoughts and prayers are going out to you and your families. True Heros!

Tracie
Lake Charles, LA

By Asadullah on April 20, 2008 10:31 PM

I think the videos that you guys send will make the youth in America to appreciate their lives and show more respect and understanding to the freedom and safety they get for granted.
Wish, you all return home safely.

Allah Bless You All

By Earl on April 20, 2008 10:44 PM

I'm a U.S. Army Veteran 1967-1970, my Son is also, Iraq 2003-04. There is nothing I can say that you Guy's of VooDoo don't already know. The ROE seems to be a Major Screw Up!! I have been following your Tour since the broadcast in early April. Stress is all around you Day and especially at Night. PTSD is all to real. Grunts learn to live with it. You Men of Bad VooDoo are OUR BEST. Landing a #!#@$% assignment but still dealing with it like the Pros you are. Hope to hear more from you guys in the near future. Stay Strong.

By Judith Drury on April 20, 2008 11:24 PM

Hey, Dude, I swear I have never encountered a soul like you. That is all I can say in awe of how you deal with s***. Sargent Nunn, I faithfully return to frontline and pbs.org to see the next installment you faithfully send. I know it is not easy and the higher ups are probably having fits. Too Bad. Get that mojo workin',bud, and get home safe, along with all of your fellow company members. Paraphrasing the words of the Bob Mould song, you give me something to believe in, big time. Cheers, Judith Drury

By Ian on April 21, 2008 3:34 AM

Just hang in there Bad Voodoo. Our government has asked far too much of you, but just remember that the strength of the nation comes from it's people (you all and those of us at home.) Like the Chief Dan George said in Outlaw Josie Wales, "Endeavour to Persevere! We the people all thank you, now it is up to us to change course and bring you home. Hundreds of years of Shiite v. Sunni hatred is not up to you to solve. I will be thinking of you every day until this is over.

By kiah on April 21, 2008 1:29 PM

Hi-I don't want to be insensitive here, because you need to cover yourself if something happens. BUT you need , in my respectful and humble opinion, to then start thinking in terms of being covered with a protective light and start thinking and putting energy into being safe, not getting hit, living through this.I am a great believer in thought energy and doing the footwork to take care but then changing all of your thoughts to those of protected and safe.
Of course I am not in your situation but I have practiced this way of thinking for a long time with terrific results in seemingly terrible situations/possible outcomes. I will be doing that for you too and holding you in that protective light.

By Rick on April 21, 2008 1:31 PM

I sit here at my desk wondering what we should do. I must help you, I cannot. You need to be at home now. I'm sorry. I'm sorry you are there. We shouldn't be doing this. Yet you are. I talk about super heros to my twin boys. Superman, Batman, the Flash. I should be talking to them about Voodoo Company. You may not think you are "Super", but what you do is super human. Just know my American Flag sails at my flag pole. I will think about you and your safety every time I look at, which is often. Your story is still reaching people. Keep recording. The truth of these events will surface. Keep safe. Don't give up. Come home.

Rick from Ohio

By Eric Herrmann on April 21, 2008 8:13 PM

I love you guys. Protect your brother. You will come home. We are responsible for you being there. Thank you for making it real for us at home. You have been through the crucible. You are almost home. You will not be forgotten when you return home. Godspeed!

By Bobbie on April 21, 2008 10:36 PM

Maybe it's what makes you a good at your job, when and not if. Just remember that what keeps you human is the same thing. When you get home, you'll go to the grocery store, take your kids to the park, take your wife to dinner, when and not if.

Though, I suppose it's impossible to think both at the same time (hence the amount of PTSD being treated). How do you keep your worlds straight? My hope for you is that there is a quiet moment somewhere when you can remember that when you get home, you will be whole again.

Prayers to you all.

By Bill Barnes on April 23, 2008 12:18 AM

Brothers,
I am a sorry old Marine who never saw a lick of action. Your gig seems incredibly hard to me but you guys are facing it with a ton of courage and professionalism. I am warm and comfortable with my family because you guys are putting it on the line. THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU! We are praying for your safe return.

By Jake K. on April 23, 2008 3:45 AM

Toby-

God bless you and your boys! Hell of a job you all are doin'! Stay safe and we'll see you when you get back...

Best
Jake K.

By Larry on May 23, 2008 8:55 PM

How many centuries must we utter the words of Chief Joseph:

I will fight no more; forever!

Leave the religious to fight the religious; the politicians to fight the politicians; the privileged to fight the other privileged; and those with the desire to have constant conflict in their lives to go somewhere else with out the involvement of all the rest of us.

Your thoughts are inspiring; your sense of duty elicits emotion in me on a much higher plane than I am used to thinking. I should wish that when I need to feel the comfort and safety of someone watching my back it should be someone of your caliber of character that can not only do it but has the ability to think about what you are doing.

I feel while watching your comments and hearing your thoughts that you are the best and brightest of your generation and inspiring to those of us passing through a little bit before you that our own personal battles have been for a purpose.

Bring it home to build the next generation, please. I want to reach out to you in any way that I can and feel so hopeless as so many of the posters have said before me.

I will fight no more...forever.

Larry
Vancouver Washington

By Andrew - Australia on June 9, 2008 12:40 AM

George Orwell once that we can lie safe in our beds at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those that would harm us. From watching this doco I see that those who protect us are not rough - they are just ordinary guys doing an extraordinary job with grace, courage and professionalism.

Toby Nunn may be out of a job with the military but with his experience, foresight and skill he could make a wonderful contribution to politics someday and help prevent the US carelessly getting into other conflicts.

As soldiers Nunn and his collegues are clearly the USA's last best chance of recovering anything from this disasterous war.

Thanks for showing us a slice of the truth.

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